Legislature(2011 - 2012)BARNES 124
02/29/2012 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE
| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| HB292 | |
| HB266 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
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| *+ | HB 292 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 266 | TELECONFERENCED | |
HB 266-PRACTICE OF NATUROPATHY
4:52:00 PM
CHAIR OLSON announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 266, "An Act relating to the practice of
naturopathy; and providing for an effective date."
4:52:24 PM
DANIEL YOUNG, Naturopathic Doctor, stated that he has practiced
naturopathy for 24 years, with 17 years practice in Eagle River.
He said he is a vice president of the Alaska Association of
Naturopathic Physicians and would like to testify in support of
HB 266. He explained that to become licensed in Alaska, a
naturopathic doctor must have attended a four-year graduate
level naturopathic medical school and be accredited by the
Council on Naturopathic Medical Education (CNME). He related
that the CNME is a member of the Association of Specialized and
Professional Accreditors. This body is regulated by the U.S.
Department of Education oversees accreditation of allopathic
medical doctors (M.D.), osteopathic (D.O.), and naturopathic
(N.D.) medical education. He stated that NDs are required to
pass rigorous board exams which include pharmacology, and
pharmacotherapeutics modules. He stated that NDs are also
educated in all the same basic sciences as a medical doctor.
However, NDs also study holistic and nontoxic approaches to
therapy with a strong emphasis on disease prevention and
optimizing wellness. Just as medical or osteopathic doctors are
considered to be the experts in their fields so are NDs experts
in the practice of natural medicine. He highlighted that NDs
have practiced in Alaska for 26 years with an impeccable safety
record. He emphasized that NDs provide excellent patient care
and anyone who says otherwise is mistaken. He provided that NDs
study; pharmacology - how drugs work in the body and
pharmacotherapeutics - how to use drugs therapeutically.
Additionally, NDs also study pharmacognosy - the study of
medicines derived from natural sources, which more than prepares
them to use natural substances in their practices. Further, the
required pharmacology board exam ensure entry-level competency.
Although the current law prohibits prescribing drugs, NDs are
well trained to use natural substances, whether they are
prescription or nonprescription substances. The current
statutes and regulations that explain prescription authority
have had the due force of law. He characterized the statute as
one that allows NDs to function safely within its tenets. He
acknowledged that Dr. Jasper has provided the history of the NDs
statutes and regulations. He said that over recent years the
NDs have attempted to modify the law.
4:55:20 PM
JANE MADISON stated that she is an interested resident. She
testified in support of HB 266. She has listened to testimony
and has heard patients in support of naturopath medicine as the
only answer to their health care and wellness. She has also
heard medical doctors say that NDs are not well trained and
should not be allowed to practice health care. She believed
both of these extreme positions are incorrect. Over the past
few years she experienced a very serious medical issue and has
become very familiar with NDs and MDs. She offered her belief
that both have place in health care for Alaskans. She said she
was diagnosed with a variety of endocrine issues. She was
treated by an excellent physician assistant, whom she described
as a wonderful family practitioner, endocrinologist, and a
knowledgeable internist, all of whom helped some. All her
providers have been medical professionals who appeared to
genuinely care and were excellent medical detectives. They all
gave her case a great deal of time and attention. However, none
could bring her back to normal. In fact, an endocrinologist
actually told her that her condition was very serious and they
did not have tests or treatment for it. A physician's assistant
told her she may have to accept the fact that she may never be
well again. She consulted an ND, who quickly determined her
endocrine system needed a little boost. She was given one
nonprescription pill per day and was monitored with monthly
blood tests for a year. Within one month she was back to
normal, even though she had spent several years of suffering.
She offered her belief that MDs are not knowledgeable about what
NDs offer patients and Alaska's regulations limit NDs'
practices. She agreed that NDs should have minimum educational
requirements prior to licensure in Alaska and they should also
have oversight by a state licensing board, as well as submit to
continuing education requirements. She stressed that they
should be regulated, recognized, and encouraged to practice
alongside traditional medical community. She said she hoped
this bill will help this happen. She suggested cost savings
could be saved if NDs were given the same prescription authority
as physician assistants since many patients first visit an ND
and must also visits a physician assistant or medical doctor to
get a prescription. She stressed this required the necessity
for patients to incur two office visits. Thus cost savings
could result in insurance billings. She encouraged both sides
of wellness and medicine to work together and recognize the NDs
are professionals, as well.
CHAIR OLSON thanked Ms. Madison and related that there will be a
town hall meeting next week.
4:59:22 PM
MARY MINER, Naturopathic Doctor, stated she works as an ND in
Fairbanks. She graduated from Bastyr University as a
naturopathic doctor in 1983 and has been in practice for 28
years. She said she has held licenses in Washington,
Connecticut, and Alaska. She testified in support of HB 266.
She said that she is placed is an awkward position when she must
tell patients she cannot treat them with therapies they know
work for them since she is now cut off from access to them. She
also cannot refer her patients to traditional medical doctors
who do not have familiarity with ND remedies which are outside
the MD's training. She urged members to pass this bill.
5:00:49 PM
DAVID OTTESEN, stated he is testifying as a consumer, but is
also the owner of Rainbow Foods. He related that this is the
fourth year he has testified on some form of bill concerning the
practice of naturopathy. He said he hopes this year something
will come of it. He related his understanding that in prior
years the naturopathy bills have involved an expansion of the
scope of practice for NDs commensurate with training they
receive. However, this year the NDS are just asking to be able
to practice as they have for the past 25 years. He pointed out
the testimony from patients and consumers of medical care who
have expressed their satisfaction with naturopathic care. He
characterized naturopathy as high quality, effective care. He
emphasized that there has not been a shred of testimony of any
harm from NDs. Further, he has heard lots of assertions from
doctors and the Alaska Medical Association (AMA) that "the sky
will fall if anything like this passes." He found that
statement ridiculous. This year NDs are asking to be able to
perform services they have provided over the past 25 years. He
thinks it is entirely reasonable to request this consideration.
He characterized this situation as a travesty if something can't
be done because the current situation is intolerable. These NDs
have been practicing in Alaska for many years, but their
practices are threatened and they may need to leave the state if
something isn't done about the current situation. He urged
members to pass the bill because NDs provide low-cost, effective
care. He concluded that as a consumer should have that choice
and it is a freedom of choice issue.
CHAIR OLSON stated that considerable progress has been made on
the bill.
5:03:41 PM
TIM PETERSON, Medical Doctor, stated that he is an allopathic
doctor and has practiced emergency room medicine and family
medicine in Juneau since 1989. He emphasized the first two
years of training NDs receive is identical to that of allopathic
medical doctors. He respects NDs' diagnostic skills. He
commented on the type of people who opt to see naturopaths. He
offered his belief that people who visit NDs tend to be savvy
consumers. He said they sometimes pay their own fees and often
must fight with insurance for coverage. He characterized those
who seek naturopaths as good consumers. He suggested that they
see NDs as a matter of choice because it works out better for
them. He has had a condition and disease in which his fingers
turned white. His colleagues wanted to give him an expensive
drug that required liver function tests, but he was not quite
ready for that type of testing. He visited a Harvard-trained
naturopath in Juneau and was very satisfied with the results.
DR. PETERSON said as a matter of choice and collegiality he
supports this bill. He has never seen anyone visit the
emergency room with side effects or illnesses as a result of
seeing naturopaths. He said in this town the NDs and MDs work
together. "These are not outliers," he said. He acknowledged
that some of his colleagues would disagree and that the medical
association tends to be a little conservative as well as a
little reactive. He recalled that he testified five or six
years ago against the chiropractors' efforts to give
prescription drugs since he did not feel it was appropriate.
However, he believes NDs should continue to practice, which is
appropriate. He characterized NDs as an asset and potentially a
money-saving option for patients, rather than for patients to
incur the extra expense of an emergency room visit with him.
[HB 266 was held over.]
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB292 Draft Proposed CS ver B.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 292 |
| HB292 Fiscal Note-DCCED-INS-02-24-12.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 292 |
| HB292 Explanation of Changes from Ver A to Ver B.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 292 |
| HB292 Legal Opinion.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 292 |
| HB292 Sectional Analysis ver B.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 292 |
| HB292 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 292 |
| HB292 ver A.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 292 |
| HB266 Supporting Documents-Assorted emails.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 266 |
| HB266 Supporting Documents-Assorted faxes 2--17-12.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 266 |
| HB266 Supporting Documents-Email Michele Scott 2-28-12.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 266 |
| HB266 Supporting Documents-Written Testimony Danielle Gabriel 2-27-12.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 266 |
| HB266 Supporting Documents-Assorted Written Testimony 2-29-12.pdf |
HL&C 2/29/2012 3:15:00 PM |
HB 266 |