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05/11/2024 09:00 AM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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+= HB 251 EXEMPTIONS FOR HOMEMADE FOODS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 251(L&C) Out of Committee
+= HB 189 SALE OF ALCOHOL TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 189(L&C) Out of Committee
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              HB 251-EXEMPTIONS FOR HOMEMADE FOODS                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
                [Contains discussion of SB 211]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:20:41 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced  the consideration of CS  FOR HOUSE BILL                                                               
NO.  251(L&C)  am "An  Act  exempting  certain foods  and  drinks                                                               
prepared  in   an  uninspected   kitchen  from   state  labeling,                                                               
licensing,  packaging, permitting,  and inspection  requirements;                                                               
and permitting  a person to acquire  meat from a producer  by way                                                               
of  an ownership  share in  an animal  if certain  conditions are                                                               
met."                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  noted that a  Senate committee substitute  for HB
251 which  was the  result of  merging HB 251  with SB  211, also                                                               
known as the crop act, was before the committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:21:06 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:21:08 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   moved  to  adopt  the   Senate  committee                                                               
substitute (SCS)  for CSHB  251, work  order 33-LS0888\R,  as the                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:21:17 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BJORKMAN  objected for purposes of  explanation. He invited                                                               
Ms. Miller and Ms. Koeneman to explain the changes to HB 251.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:21:48 PM                                                                                                                   
CRYSTAL   KOENEMAN,   Legislative    Liaison,   Office   of   the                                                               
Commissioner, Department  of Environmental  Conservation, Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, introduced herself.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:21:58 PM                                                                                                                   
RENA  MILLER,  Special  Assistant, Office  of  the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of Natural  Resources, Anchorage,  Alaska, introduced                                                               
herself  and presented  a conceptual  overview of  changes to  HB
251. She  referred to SB  211, the Crop  Act, and noted  that the                                                               
Senate  Labor and  Commerce Standing  Committee  reported SB  211                                                               
[April 29, 2024].                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   • Section one of SB 211 [which was included in HB 251]                                                                       
     reduced the quorum requirement of  the seven-member Board of                                                               
     Agriculture  and Conservation  from five  to four.  She said                                                               
     this would  allow the board  to conduct their  business more                                                               
     effectively. She noted  that a key function of  the Board of                                                               
     Agriculture and  Conservation business is making  loans from                                                               
     the agricultural revolving loan fund.                                                                                      
   • Section two of HB 251 would expand the types of things for                                                                 
     which  the  Board  of  Agriculture  [and  Conservation]  can                                                               
     approve loans.  Under HB 251  the board could  approve loans                                                               
     to individual  residents, partnerships or  corporations. She                                                               
     said  specific   activities  added  to  HB   251  [for  loan                                                               
     eligibility] were both  transportation and manufacturing. HB
     251 would also  allow the board to use  the [revolving loan]                                                               
     fund  to refinance  debt  incurred  through other  borrowing                                                               
     tools.                                                                                                                     
   • Section three [of HB 251] would increase the maximum amount                                                                
     of loans that  any one individual can have at  any one point                                                               
     in  time, from  $1 million,  which was  set several  decades                                                               
     ago,  to  $3  million.  HB  251 would  adjust  the  cap  for                                                               
     inflation to be proactive about future needs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:23:34 PM                                                                                                                   
   • Section four would remove some statutory caps limiting                                                                     
     short-term loans for certain  activities, and instead, would                                                               
     ask the Board  of Agriculture and Conservation  to set those                                                               
     loans in regulation.                                                                                                       
   • Section five would increase the maximum farm product                                                                       
     processing loan from $250,000 to $500,000. She noted this                                                                  
     limit was set decades ago and that the intent [of raising                                                                  
     the cap] was to keep up with the modern environment.                                                                       
   • Section six would remove the statutory cap for loans                                                                       
     related to clearing land and asks the board of agriculture                                                                 
     to set those in regulation.                                                                                                
   • Section eight would allow the Board of Agriculture and                                                                     
     Conservation and DNR to adopt regulations for those                                                                        
     provisions.                                                                                                                
   • Sections 9, 10 and 11 provide effective dates for the new                                                                  
     provisions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:24:26 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  asked for confirmation that  the summary of                                                               
changes Ms. Miller presented was  the same content as the summary                                                               
of changes presented [for SB 211].                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:24:38 PM                                                                                                                   
MS. MILLER  said there was  one minor modification.  She referred                                                               
to the  committee substitute  for HB 251,  page 2.  She explained                                                               
that, when a previous committee  added in-state manufacturing and                                                               
costs of shipping [to allowable  items for loans] they were added                                                               
in an order  that would not have allowed shipping  in relation to                                                               
manufacturing. She  said the solution  was to  move manufacturing                                                               
[to a position]  above transportation in the list  of things that                                                               
can be loaned  for so that shipping would  apply to manufacturing                                                               
and other provisions already [approved] in statute.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:25:31 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  asked for confirmation that  [the change to                                                               
allow  loan consideration  for shipping]  was the  only deviation                                                               
from the summary of changes presented [for SB 211].                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:25:39 PM                                                                                                                   
MS.   MILLER   confirmed  that   [the   change   to  allow   loan                                                               
consideration for shipping] was the only modification.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:25:50 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   asked  for  an   explanation  of  how   SB  211                                                               
complemented and was incorporated into HB 251.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
12:26:04 PM                                                                                                                   
MS.  KOENEMAN answered  that  HB  251 provided  for  the sale  of                                                               
homemade  food for  personal consumption,  either  directly to  a                                                               
buyer or  retail location through  a third-party seller,  as well                                                               
as the sale of items from  a farmers' market or a producer's home                                                               
and from certain  retail locations as well as  online orders. She                                                               
explained the components that were added  [to HB 251] from SB 211                                                               
were:                                                                                                                           
   • reducing the quorum requirements for the purpose of                                                                        
     facilitating board business.                                                                                               
   • including approving loan applications directly related to                                                                  
     production.                                                                                                                
  • recommending land designations for agricultural purposes.                                                                   
   • expanding the loan categories to include food manufacturing                                                                
     and shipping that may be used for third party sales, which                                                                 
     ties into the homemade food producers.                                                                                     
   • allowing for loans to be used to cover animal and feed                                                                     
     production  and processing,  which, she  said is  related to                                                               
     the direct  care and maintenance  of animals for  herd share                                                               
     purposes or for  equipment to produce and then  sell or ship                                                               
     homemade foods.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN noted  that the  provisions from  SB 211  that were                                                               
included in HB  251 would give additional  opportunities for home                                                               
producers, as well  as the animal share and  herd sharing members                                                               
to have  access to these items.  She also noted that  none of the                                                               
language was changed in HB  251 related to homemade products. She                                                               
said  there was  an effective  date of  July, 1,  2024, added  to                                                               
section [10].  She also noted that  there was no change  to DEC's                                                               
fiscal note because of the added language.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:28:19 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BJORKMAN removed his objection;  found no further objection                                                               
and SCS CSHB 251 was adopted as the working document.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:28:34 PM                                                                                                                   
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:29:46 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and  asked   for  an                                                               
explanation of the fiscal notes for HB 251.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:30:13 PM                                                                                                                   
MS.  KOENEMAN  said  there  was  a  zero  fiscal  note  from  the                                                               
Department  of Environmental  Conservation, OMB  Component Number                                                               
3202,   dated  January   26,  2024.   She   said  Department   of                                                               
Environmental  Conservation (DEC)  did not  anticipate additional                                                               
workload  or  adjustments to  their  day-to-day  operations as  a                                                               
result of HB 251.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:30:46 PM                                                                                                                   
MS. MILLER noted  the fiscal note for HB 251  from the Department                                                               
of Natural  Resources, OMB  component number  455, dated  May 10,                                                               
2024. She said Department of  Natural Resources (DNR) anticipated                                                               
the need  to write regulations for  some of the provisions  of SB
211  incorporated into  HB 251.  However, she  said DNR  believed                                                               
existing  staff  would  be sufficient  to  cover  any  additional                                                               
demand for  loans. She noted  that the expanded  eligibility [for                                                               
loans] may  drive demand  in a  significant way  as DNR  hoped it                                                               
would. She said,  [in that case] DNR would come  back and ask for                                                               
additional resources in the future.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:31:38 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited the will of the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:31:42 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON moved  to report the SCS for  CSHB 251, work                                                               
order    33-LS0888\R,    from     committee    with    individual                                                               
recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:31:57 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BJORKMAN objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:32:00 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  BJORKMAN expressed  strong  support  for the  agricultural                                                               
revolving loan  fund and emphasized  its role in  providing loans                                                               
to small farmers.  He said he believed that HB  251 would further                                                               
encourage food production and support  small farmers in the state                                                               
and commended the work to develop the bill.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
12:33:08 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR BJORKMAN removed his objection;  found no further objection                                                               
and  SCS CSHB  251(L&C) was  reported from  the Senate  Labor and                                                               
Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB251 Draft Proposed CS ver R.pdf SL&C 5/11/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 251
HB251 Memo on Draft CS ver R 24-271boo.pdf SL&C 5/11/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 251
HB251 Fiscal Note DNR-AGR 05.11.24.pdf SL&C 5/11/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 251
HB189 Draft Proposed Amendment U.5.pdf SL&C 5/11/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 189