Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120
02/26/2024 01:30 PM House JUDICIARY
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| HB238 | |
| HB107 | |
| Adjourn |
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| += | HB 265 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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| *+ | HB 238 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HB 238-CRIMINAL MISCHIEF 3RD DEGREE
1:35:09 PM
CHAIR VANCE announced that the first order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 238, "An Act relating to criminal mischief in the
third degree; and providing for an effective date."
1:35:22 PM
REPRESENTATIVE ANDY JOSEPHSON, Alaska State Legislature, prime
sponsor of HB 238, introduced himself for the record.
1:35:45 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease.
1:36:13 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON paraphrased the sponsor statement
[included in the committee packet], which read as follows
[original punctuation provided]:
The Anti-Defamation League reports that recent years
have seen the most antisemitic vandalism since they
started reporting in 1979. The Municipality of
Anchorage saw at least two notable incidences of
vandalism on churches: a nazi symbol of the lawn of
Mountain City Church and spray-painted phallic symbols
on St. Andrew Catholic church. Instances such as these
show that 1) targeted vandalism based on religious
worship can affect anybody, and 2) we should not treat
these types of crime as simple property damage.
HB 238 amends AS 11.46.482: Criminal Mischief in the
3rd Degree to include a common criminal law known as
"Institutional Vandalism." Forty-two states and the
District of Columbia have passed laws which emphasize
and punish criminal behavior related to the
destruction of property used for, or owned by, a place
of worship or the site of burial or cemetery.
Alaska already makes it a C felony to deface,
desecrate, or destroy a cemetery or place of burial
under AS 11.46.482. Without that specific language,
desecrating a cemetery would fall under typical
destruction of property. Typical destruction of
property is punished based on the value of the
property:
• C felony if the property value was $750 or more
(AS 11.46.482);
• A misdemeanor if the property value was between
$250 and $750 (AS 11.46.484);
• B misdemeanor if the property value was less
than $250 (AS 11.46.486)
Destruction of religious property or place of worship
is treated like any other property crime; Therefore,
it falls under the above measures. HB 238 would make
any intentional desecration of religious property or
place of worship a C felony just like vandalism to a
place of burial.
1:41:35 PM
CHAIR VANCE sought questions from committee members.
1:41:42 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked whether mosques, Buddhist temples, and
other places of worship would be included in the bill.
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON answered in the affirmative.
1:42:36 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON read an excerpt from a book by Phyllis
Gerstenfeld, titled "The ADL Perspective on Hate Crimes." He
noted that in the aggravating section of Alaska Statutes, there
is no inclusion of religion. Consequently, if someone were
targeted for their religious belief, the Alaska courts would not
enhance the punishment.
1:45:40 PM
ALEXANDER SCHROEDER, Staff, Representative Andy Josephson,
Alaska State Legislature, on behalf of Representative Josephson,
prime sponsor of HB 238, explained that there are five criminal
mischief statutes with the first degree being a class A felony
and the fifth degree being a class B misdemeanor. The intent of
the bill, he explained, is to reclassify what would fall between
the third and fifth degrees or "institutional vandalism" -
under the third degree. He directed attention to a PowerPoint,
titled "HB 238: Criminal Mischief in the Third Degree" [hard
copy included in the committee packet].
1:46:54 PM
MR. SCHROEDER began on slide 2, "Institutional Vandalism," which
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:
Intentional defacement, damage, or desecration of a
building of worship.
42 states and D.C. make this a distinct crime from
property damage.
US Department of Justice and FBI report an increase
in recent years of crimes to property motivated by
religious bias.
1:48:17 PM
MR. SCHROEDER continued to slide 3, which exhibited the states
with institutional vandalism laws/statutes. He proceeded to
slide 4, "Why Do we Need This Bill?" Slide 4 read as follows
[original punctuation provided]:
Vandalism to a place of worship is currently treated
as a typical property crime.
National and global events have a lead to an
increase in these types of crimes, both nationally and
locally.
In 2022 (most recent data), crimes against property
and religion as a bias motivating factor accounted for
80% of all hate crimes.*
1:50:30 PM
MR. SCHROEDER proceeded to slide 5, titled "Hate Crime Incidents
in 2022 (Alaska)," which broke down the bias motivation
categories for hate crimes. He indicated that in 2022, 80
percent of hate crimes fell under the religion category.
1:50:58 PM
MR. SCHROEDER moved to slide 6, which featured images showing
local examples of religious desecration. He reiterated that the
intent of the bill is to cover such instances within criminal
mischief in the third degree.
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD said she appreciated Representative
Josephson for bringing the bill forward and felt that the issue
was "near and dear" to his heart.
1:52:26 PM
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON, referencing the photo on the right of
slide 6, asked whether the Nazi symbol burned into the ground
would be covered by the bill.
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON theorized that that it may not be
covered because, although it is real property used for a
religious purpose, the bill provides for the defacement damage
or desecration of a "building, structure, or personal property"
used for worship or any other religious purpose.
1:53:42 PM
MR. SCHROEDER said he would follow up with the requested
information. He concluded on slide 7, "What Does HB 238 Do?"
Slide 7 read as follows [original punctuation provided]:
1. Elevates any intentional vandalism to a religious
institution to a C Felony.
2. Exempts authorized intentional damage by an
employee of the institution.
3. Provides for an immediate effective date.
This ensures that no matter the value of property
damaged, vandalism of a place of worship is
treated the same:
• There is no dollar value that can be placed on
psychological and/or spiritual harm.
• The bill's language will house places of worship and
places of burial in Criminal Mischief in the
Third Degree.
MR. SCHROEDER added that the value of property should not be the
measure for punishment. He pointed out that the free exercise
of religion is a First Amendment right for a reason and opined
that these types of crimes encroach on that right by causing
spiritual and psychological harm.
1:56:05 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON said it strikes him as inconsistent
that the building next door deserves less protection than a
place of burial or cemetery, which when desiccated or defaced,
is provided for under current law.
CHAIR VANCE sought questions from committee members.
1:56:40 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY highlighted the 182 percent increase in
violence against Muslims between the three weeks following
October 7. He sought to confirm that the purpose of the
affirmative defense outlined in Section 2 of the bill is to
protect someone who might tear down a wall in a church as part
of his/her job.
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON answered in the affirmative.
CHAIR VANCE announced that HB 238 would be held over.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 238 - Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - v.A.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - Sectional Analysis.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - Supporting Document - FBI Hate Crime Statistics Tables.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - Supporting Document - Hate Crimes Incidents in 2022 Fact Sheet.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - Supporting Document - States with Institutional Vandalism Laws or Statutes.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - Supporting Document - ADL Audit of Antisemitic Incidents 2022.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - Supporting Document - ADL State by State Statute Sheet.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 - DOL-CrimDiv. Fiscal Note (02-23-24).pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |
| HB 238 PowerPoint Presentation.pdf |
HFSH 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2024 1:30:00 PM |
HB 238 |