Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/01/2024 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:09:05 AM Start
09:09:38 AM Presentation: Integrated Railbelt Transmission Systems
10:07:59 AM HB219
10:37:00 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 219 REPEAL ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY LOAN PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Presentation: Integrated Railbelt Transmission
Systems by
Joel Groves, Chair, Railbelt Reliability Council
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 219                                                                                                              
"An Act  repealing the  assistive technology  loan guarantee                                                                    
and  interest   subsidy  program;   and  providing   for  an                                                                    
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:07:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson announced that the  was the first hearing for                                                                    
HB 219.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:08:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAN  SADDLER,  SPONSOR,  explained  that  in                                                                    
1995, when the state sought  and received a federal grant to                                                                    
be utilized to back  loans, through a financial institution,                                                                    
for  individuals  with  disabilities,   so  they  could  buy                                                                    
assistive technology that  could help them to get  or keep a                                                                    
job, or to  live more independently in our  state. He shared                                                                    
that assistive  technology included  wheelchairs, computers,                                                                    
prosthetics,   hearing   aids,  communication   devices   or                                                                    
software. The  Alaska Legislature  chose to use  the funding                                                                    
to  establish  the   "assistive  technology  loan  guarantee                                                                    
fund."  This fund  was intended  to guarantee  the principal                                                                    
amount    or  subsidize  the  interest rate     of loans  to                                                                    
Alaskans so  they could  buy assistive  technology. However,                                                                    
despite the  Legislature's good intentions, few  people have                                                                    
taken advantage of this program  since its inception. HB 219                                                                    
seeks to fulfill the grant's  original aim by repealing this                                                                    
moribund  grant program  and directing  the fund's  $450,000                                                                    
balance to  Assistive Technology  of Alaska,  the non-profit                                                                    
empowered  to   administer  such   grants.  Repeal   of  the                                                                    
underlying statute  will be contingent on  the Legislature's                                                                    
reappropriation  of  these  funds, through  separate  budget                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:11:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MELODIE  WILTERDINK,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  DAN  SADDLER,                                                                    
addressed a Sectional Analysis (copy on file):                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 219, Version B                                                                                                
     "An  Act   repealing  the  assistive   technology  loan                                                                    
     guarantee and  interest subsidy program;  and providing                                                                    
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1  Page 1, Line 4                                                                                              
     Section  1   repeals  AS  23.15.125      the  assistive                                                                    
     technology loan guarantee  and interest subsidy program                                                                    
        which  established  the "assistive  technology  loan                                                                    
     guarantee fund." The fund can  be used to guarantee the                                                                    
     principal amount  or subsidize  the interest rate  of a                                                                    
     loan for  purchasing assistive technology  that enables                                                                    
     an individual to obtain or  maintain employment or live                                                                    
     more independently.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2  Page 1, Lines 5-9                                                                                           
     Section  2   adds  conditional  language   to  Alaska's                                                                    
     uncodified  law stipulating  that this  act only  takes                                                                    
     effect  if the  Legislature reappropriates  the balance                                                                    
     of the  assistive technology loan fund  for the purpose                                                                    
     of improving access to assistive technology.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3  Page 1, Line 10                                                                                             
    Section 3 provides for an immediate effective date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:13:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  asked what assurances  could be had  that the                                                                    
grantee would use the fund  as a revolving grant fund rather                                                                    
than a one-time grant.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Saddler deferred  to Mr.  Kirstien from  the                                                                    
Department of Labor and Workforce Development.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:13:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID KIRSTIEN, ADMINISTRATIVE  OPERATIONS MANAGER, DIVISION                                                                    
OF  VOCATIONAL  REHABILITATION,   DEPARTMENT  OF  LABOR  AND                                                                    
WORKFORCE  DEVELOPMENT, responded  that the  original intent                                                                    
was  for loans  to be  given for  the purpose  of purchasing                                                                    
assistive technology. He did not  see it as a revolving fund                                                                    
but as  a large grant that  would be used to  fund assistive                                                                    
technologies.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  asked  whether  the  potential  grantee  was                                                                    
online for questions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler noted that  the executive director of                                                                    
Assistive Technology of Alaska was online for questions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:15:39 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:16:11 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick asked whether  there would be administrative                                                                    
costs to administer the program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:16:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MYSTIE  RAIL, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY  OF                                                                    
ALASKA  (ATLA)  (via  teleconference),  explained  that  the                                                                    
purpose of the  funds once they came to ATLA  was to support                                                                    
the  activities that  ATLA had  provided for  30 years.  The                                                                    
funds  would not  be a  loan for  clients, or  a grant,  the                                                                    
funds would  support the activities ATLA  provided under the                                                                    
Federal  Assistive  Technology  Act    which  would  include                                                                    
administrative activities.                                                                                                      
Senator  Kiehl  recalled  that  the  sponsor  had  mentioned                                                                    
hearing aids  and other assistive technology.  He noted that                                                                    
Ms. Rail had mentioned  "activities" and expressed confusion                                                                    
as to how the money would be used.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rail  noted that ATLA  did not provide   durable medical                                                                    
equipment   or  anything   prescribed.  She  clarified  that                                                                    
assistive  technology  was defined  as  any  item, piece  of                                                                    
equipment,  software program,  or  product  system that  was                                                                    
used  to  increase,  maintain,  or  improve  the  functional                                                                    
capabilities  of a  person with  a  disability. She  offered                                                                    
examples.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:20:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Rail   continued    her   description   of   assistive                                                                    
technologies.  She  said  that  the  equipment  could  be  a                                                                    
solution that  was designed and  created by ATLA  or another                                                                    
manufacturer, or  an item off  the shelf. She  stressed that                                                                    
assistive  technology was  not a  one-size-fits-all solution                                                                    
but was crafted to the specific individual.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rail  noted that  ATLA  was  also tasked  with  loaning                                                                    
equipment and devices so the  client could determine whether                                                                    
it  fit their  needs before  purchasing. The  intent of  the                                                                    
bill  would  be to  support  the  activities that  ATLA  was                                                                    
already  providing. She  noted that  technology was  rapidly                                                                    
changing   and   ATLA   supported   the   refurbishing   and                                                                    
redistribution of  equipment. She relayed that  ATLA provide                                                                    
outreach  and  awareness  as   well  as  collaboration  with                                                                    
partner agencies  across the state. She  reiterated that the                                                                    
legislation would  support work  already done by  ATLA under                                                                    
the  current  Assisted  Technology  Act. She  said  that  as                                                                    
technology  evolved, so  did the  needs of  Alaskans served,                                                                    
and the  bill would ensure that  ATLA had the funds  to meet                                                                    
the increasing needs of clients in the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:25:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  thanked  Ms.   Rail  for  ATLA's  tremendous                                                                    
mission.  He asked  about  the specific  uses  of the  grant                                                                    
funds as  proposed in the  bill. He asked whether  the grant                                                                    
would  cover  most activities  of  ATLA  or specific  things                                                                    
within the mission.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rail said it would be  used across the board to fund all                                                                    
activities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:27:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop asked for Ms. Rail  to provide a list of what                                                                    
was and what was not funded by ATLA.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rail agreed to provide the information.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop  ruminated on the matter.  He recognized that                                                                    
ATLA was not tasked with  helping to provide wheelchairs but                                                                    
felt  compelled  to  relay  a  personal  experience  of  the                                                                    
difficulty of  getting a  repair part  for a  wheelchair. He                                                                    
lamented that many of the  chairs and replacement parts were                                                                    
made in China.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:30:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler  riffed on Co-Chair  Bishops  comment                                                                    
and the difficulty of finding spare parts.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:30:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Merrick  asked  about  the  requirements  for  ATLA                                                                    
applicants.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rail relayed  that there were no  real requirements. She                                                                    
said  that  any  person  in   Alaska  who  needed  assistive                                                                    
technology and was living could receive support.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Merrick  asked whether applicants needed  to provide                                                                    
any kind of medical documentation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rail explained  that the process was based  on the honor                                                                    
system.  She estimated  that  there had  been  a 99  percent                                                                    
return rate for borrowed equipment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Saddler  thought   ATLA  provided  proof  of                                                                    
concept and  loaned equipment, they did  not provide grants.                                                                    
He stressed that they had served numerus Alaskans.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:33:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JAMIE KOKOSZKA,  PROGRAM COORDINATOR, GOVERNOR'S  COUNCIL ON                                                                    
DISABILITIES  AND  SPECIAL  EDUATION, DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH                                                                    
(via  teleconference),  read  from prepared  testimony.  She                                                                    
stressed   that  assistive   technology  was   critical  for                                                                    
Alaskans  with  disabilities  to live  healthy,  productive,                                                                    
independent,  and  dignified  lives and  to  participate  in                                                                    
education,  the labor  market, and  civic  life. She  shared                                                                    
that the council believed ATLA  was the best organization to                                                                    
take over  the remaining funds  of the unrestricted  Title 1                                                                    
funding. She  added that ATLA  had a proven track  record of                                                                    
managing  funds and  aiding Alaskans.  She  referred to  the                                                                    
position paper sent by the council (copy on file).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:35:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:36:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:36:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler lamented  that he had to  get down to                                                                    
the House Chambers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB  219  was  heard  and   HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Olson discussed housekeeping.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 219 Sponsor Statement 2.6.24.pdf HFIN 3/22/2024 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 219
HB 219 Sectional Analysis ver B 2.6.24.pdf HFIN 3/22/2024 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 219
HB 219 Public Testimony Rec'd by 040424.pdf HFIN 4/12/2024 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
HB 219
SB 217 (2024-05-01) RRC Presentation to Senate Finance.pdf SFIN 5/1/2024 9:00:00 AM
SB 217