Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

05/06/2025 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:06:04 AM Start
08:07:15 AM HB207
08:52:34 AM Presentation(s): Rural Cap: 60 Years of Alaska Development and a Future View
09:50:02 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 207 FIRE STATION GRANT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Presentation: RurAL CAP: 60 Years of Alaska TELECONFERENCED
Development and a Future View by L. Tiel Smith,
Chief Executive Officer; and Jasmine Boyle, Chief
Development Officer, Rural Alaska Community
Action Program, Inc.
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
               HB 207-FIRE STATION GRANT PROGRAM                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:07:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  207, "An  Act relating  to a  matching                                                               
grant program  for fire station construction  and renovation; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:07:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
}REPRESENTATIVE  CALVIN  SCHRAGE*  Alaska  State  Representative*                                                               
Juneau, Alaska*  As prime  sponsor, presented  HB 207.{  as prime                                                               
sponsor, presented HB 207.   He paraphrased the sponsor statement                                                               
[included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill  207  establishes the  Fire  Station  Grant                                                                    
     Program, promoting  a robust partnership  between local                                                                    
     communities  and the  state  to  strengthen safety  and                                                                    
     security. This matching  grant program provides funding                                                                    
     for  up to  50 percent  of the  total project  cost for                                                                    
     constructing  or renovating  fire stations,  supporting                                                                    
     communities  in  enhancing   their  emergency  response                                                                    
     infrastructure.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska faces  unique challenges in  emergency response,                                                                    
     making  it crucial  for our  fire stations  to be  well                                                                    
     equipped  and properly  maintained. Many  fire stations                                                                    
     across the  state are in desperate  need of replacement                                                                    
     due   to  their   age   and  deteriorating   condition.                                                                    
     Replacing    these   facilities    is   essential    to                                                                    
     strengthening    their     operational    capabilities,                                                                    
     improving emergency response times, and ensuring that                                                                      
     Alaskans  continue receiving  the  highest standard  of                                                                    
     emergency   fire  services.   Addressing  these   needs                                                                    
     involves   constructing   new   facilities,   replacing                                                                    
     outdated   stations  with   new  buildings   when  more                                                                    
     economical     than    renovation,     and    upgrading                                                                    
     infrastructure to meet current safety standards.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     It has  been over a  decade since the  Legislature last                                                                    
     dedicated  substantial funding  to support  communities                                                                    
     statewide for  the construction, replacement,  or major                                                                    
     renovations  of   local  fire  stations.   During  that                                                                    
     period,  state assistance  facilitated the  development                                                                    
     of approximately  a dozen fire stations  across Alaska,                                                                    
     marking one of the  most well-received capital programs                                                                    
     in  recent   history.  However,   the  need   for  such                                                                    
     investments has  only grown. Recognizing  this critical                                                                    
     need,   the   Alaska   Fire  Chiefs   Association   has                                                                    
     identified   nearly   two   dozen  projects   for   the                                                                    
     Legislature's consideration,  underscoring the pressing                                                                    
     need for  this program. The Fire  Station Grant Program                                                                    
     seeks  to  invest  in  the safety  of  all  regions  of                                                                    
     Alaska, while also ensuring support  at the local level                                                                    
     for these projects. Investing in  these projects is not                                                                    
     merely a  matter of infrastructure    it's a  matter of                                                                    
     public  safety  and   preparedness  for  challenges  of                                                                    
     tomorrow.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:10:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS asked whether the sponsor envisioned...                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  said yes,  it would allow  for long-range                                                               
planning                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:11:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
}AMANDA  DNEMO,  Staff*  Representative  Calvin  Schrage*  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature*  Juneau,   Alaska*  Presented  the  sectional                                                               
analysis for  HB 207 on  behalf of Representative  Schrage, prime                                                               
sponsor.{                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:12:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DNEMO  gave a  PowerPoint presentation on  HB 207  [hard copy                                                               
included in  the committee  packet].   She gave  an introduction,                                                               
outlined the  purpose of  HB 207, and  summarized the  bill's key                                                               
provisions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:14:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
}FORREST  KUIPER,  President&  Alaska  Fire  Chiefs  Association*                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska*  Gave invited testimony during  the hearing on                                                               
HB 207.{ made key points in support of HB 207.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  highlighted that ad-hoc  funding requests                                                               
have been  received over the years.   The bill would  allow for a                                                               
more open and transparent process.   He offered to share examples                                                               
of the conditions  of fire houses across  the state, highlighting                                                               
significant need.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT opened public testimony?                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:19:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
}CAROLE   TRIEM,   Intergovernmental  Affairs   Manager*   Alaska                                                               
Municipal League*  Juneau, Alaska* Gave invited  testimony during                                                               
the hearing on HB 207.{                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT closed public testimony?                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:21:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  whether  the program  is separate  or                                                               
whether                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  he hopes  that it  would facilitate                                                               
more communication                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX observed  that local  efforts have  not been                                                               
coordinated                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE acknowledge  that different  needs should                                                               
be considered, balanced, and prioritized.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:26:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND asked about  the current status of funding                                                               
for fire stations                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  there  has been  a diminishment  of                                                               
state support for fire stations                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:28:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KUIPER  said they've exhausted  all efforts to  find funding,                                                               
but  capacity is  limited for  federal grants  through the  * ...                                                               
There are also  federal brick grants and  others, but departments                                                               
have been unsuccessful.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND   shared  his  understanding   that  fire                                                               
stations are  fairly integrated facilities and  expressed concern                                                               
about whether  "fire station grants"  puts too narrow  a boundary                                                               
on this                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE shared his belief that                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:32:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALL asked  whether  the 50  percent  match is  a                                                               
traditional  percentage; additionally  she asked  whether funding                                                               
sources could be braided                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE shared his  belief that yes, funding could                                                               
be braided                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALL restated  her  question,  asking whether  50                                                               
percent match is traditional                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE offered to follow up                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:33:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS asked whether                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KUIPER  yes,  the  list is  the  comprehensive  list  that's                                                               
dynamic and constantly updated.   It was first compiled last year                                                               
but with new construction estimates its updates as they arise                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS  asked whether  there is  a need  to cast  the net                                                               
wider to capture the needs of smaller communities                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. KUIPER said the list is a preliminary one to identify need                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:36:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS asked  in identifying  community  needs for  fire                                                               
stations and facilities, whether this work is being done                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
}SANDRA  MOLLER*  Director,  Division  of  Community  &  Regional                                                               
Affairs,   Department   of   Commerce,   Community   &   Economic                                                               
Development* City & State* {                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOLLER said if the program were enacted,                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:39:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  asked  whether this  work  is  currently                                                               
catalogued                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOLLER said yes, there  is a community database online that's                                                               
fiarly robust; however  at present, it does not  track this work,                                                               
but it could be added.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KUIPER said  if the  program were  enacted, they  would work                                                               
with DPS and Ms. Moller to update the database                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:41:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PRAX  asked   whether   DCCED   has  a   capital                                                               
improvements list from municipal governments                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOLLER answered no.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:44:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT likened the funding  to the chicken or the egg                                                               
and asked how the funding would be dispersed                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  as  currently proposed,  regulation                                                               
would determine the disbursement of funding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT asked  whether  it would  be  similar to  the                                                               
harbor grant program                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE did not know the answer                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT said she would  like some parity between urban                                                               
and rural                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX said  another  bill  would establish  mental                                                               
health  crisis services.   He  asked whether  insurance companies                                                               
had been talked to or whether                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT said  when another  state approves  a capital                                                               
project, they  put aside 3  percent and asked whether  that would                                                               
feel like overreach                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  he would  want more  information on                                                               
the structure of that 3 percent                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:49:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 207 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 207 - Sponsor Statement 4.30.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 Version A (34-LS0913A) 4.25.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 Sectional Analysis - Version A 4.30.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 Fiscal Note - DCCED-DCRA 5.2.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 - AFCA Letter of Support 5.5.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HCRA Presentation by RurALCAP 5.6.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
RurAL CAP
HB 207 Presentation - Fire Station Grant Program 5.6.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207