Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

05/06/2025 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:06:04 AM Start
08:07:15 AM HB207
08:52:34 AM Presentation(s): Rural Cap: 60 Years of Alaska Development and a Future View
09:50:02 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 207 FIRE STATION GRANT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Presentation: RurAL CAP: 60 Years of Alaska TELECONFERENCED
Development and a Future View by L. Tiel Smith,
Chief Executive Officer; and Jasmine Boyle, Chief
Development Officer, Rural Alaska Community
Action Program, Inc.
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
               HB 207-FIRE STATION GRANT PROGRAM                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:07:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  207, "An  Act relating  to a  matching                                                               
grant program  for fire station construction  and renovation; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:07:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CALVIN  SCHRAGE,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime  sponsor, presented  HB 207.   He  paraphrased the  sponsor                                                               
statement  [included  in the  committee  packet],  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill  207  establishes the  Fire  Station  Grant                                                                    
     Program, promoting  a robust partnership  between local                                                                    
     communities  and the  state  to  strengthen safety  and                                                                    
     security. This matching  grant program provides funding                                                                    
     for  up to  50 percent  of the  total project  cost for                                                                    
     constructing  or renovating  fire stations,  supporting                                                                    
     communities  in  enhancing   their  emergency  response                                                                    
     infrastructure.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska faces  unique challenges in  emergency response,                                                                    
     making  it crucial  for our  fire stations  to be  well                                                                    
     equipped  and properly  maintained. Many  fire stations                                                                    
     across the  state are in desperate  need of replacement                                                                    
     due   to  their   age   and  deteriorating   condition.                                                                    
     Replacing    these   facilities    is   essential    to                                                                    
     strengthening    their     operational    capabilities,                                                                    
     improving emergency response times, and ensuring that                                                                      
     Alaskans  continue receiving  the  highest standard  of                                                                    
     emergency   fire  services.   Addressing  these   needs                                                                    
     involves   constructing   new   facilities,   replacing                                                                    
     outdated   stations  with   new  buildings   when  more                                                                    
     economical     than    renovation,     and    upgrading                                                                    
     infrastructure to meet current safety standards.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     It has  been over a  decade since the  Legislature last                                                                    
     dedicated  substantial funding  to support  communities                                                                    
     statewide for  the construction, replacement,  or major                                                                    
     renovations  of   local  fire  stations.   During  that                                                                    
     period,  state assistance  facilitated the  development                                                                    
     of approximately  a dozen fire stations  across Alaska,                                                                    
     marking one of the  most well-received capital programs                                                                    
     in  recent   history.  However,   the  need   for  such                                                                    
     investments has  only grown. Recognizing  this critical                                                                    
     need,   the   Alaska   Fire  Chiefs   Association   has                                                                    
     identified   nearly   two   dozen  projects   for   the                                                                    
     Legislature's consideration,  underscoring the pressing                                                                    
     need for  this program. The Fire  Station Grant Program                                                                    
     seeks  to  invest  in  the safety  of  all  regions  of                                                                    
     Alaska, while also ensuring support  at the local level                                                                    
     for these projects. Investing in  these projects is not                                                                    
     merely a  matter of infrastructure    it's a  matter of                                                                    
     public  safety  and   preparedness  for  challenges  of                                                                    
     tomorrow.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:10:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS asked  whether the  sponsor  envisioned the  Fire                                                               
Station Grant Program  similar to other state  programs, like the                                                               
Renewable Energy  Fund (REF)  and the  bulk fuel  [loan program],                                                               
for example.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  responded yes, like those  programs, this                                                               
would  allow for  long-range planning  as  opposed to  ad hoc  as                                                               
funding becomes available.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:11:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA DNEMO, Staff, Representative  Calvin Schrage, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of  Representative Schrage, prime sponsor,                                                               
presented  the sectional  analysis for  HB 207  [included in  the                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: Adds  a new Article 6A to  AS 29.60 creating                                                                    
     the Fire Station Grant Program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Sec.  29.60.750  Creates  the Fire  Station  Grant                                                                    
          Program  as a  matching grant  program within  the                                                                    
          Department  of Commerce,  Community, and  Economic                                                                    
          Development. Allows  grants for  up to  50 percent                                                                    
          of  eligible  projects  to construct  or  renovate                                                                    
          fire stations.                                                                                                        
          Sec. 29.60.760 Establishes the Fire Station Grant                                                                     
          Fund as a separate fund in the department and                                                                         
          provides a framework for use of the fund.                                                                             
          Sec. 29.60.770 Instructs the department to adopt                                                                      
          regulations necessary to implement the fire                                                                           
          station grant program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Section 2: Establishes an effective date of July 1,                                                                       
     2025.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:12:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DNEMO offered  a  brief PowerPoint  presentation  on HB  207                                                               
[hard  copy included  in  the  committee packet].    She gave  an                                                               
introduction on slide 1, outlined the  purpose of HB 207 on slide                                                               
2, and summarized the bill's key provisions on slide 3.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:14:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FORREST  KUIPER,   President,  Alaska  Fire   Chiefs  Association                                                               
(AFCA);  Chief,   University  of  Alaska  Fairbanks   (UAF)  Fire                                                               
Department, gave invited  testimony in strong support  of HB 207,                                                               
which  he characterized  as a  direct investment  in the  safety,                                                               
resilience, and  wellbeing of Alaska  communities.   He explained                                                               
that across the  state, fire departments are  doing critical work                                                               
with  aging infrastructure,  limited  space,  and buildings  that                                                               
were not designed  for the demands of  modern emergency response.                                                               
Upon request  in 2023, the  AFCA identified  a list of  over $400                                                               
million  in  new  and renovated  construction  needs  across  the                                                               
state.  He emphasized that in  an emergency seconds matter, and a                                                               
well-located,  properly   equipped  fire  station   saves  lives,                                                               
reduces  response   times,  and   protects  property.     HB  207                                                               
recognizes  that infrastructure  is just  as important  to public                                                               
safety as  personnel and  equipment.  He  urged the  committee to                                                               
pass the bill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  highlighted that ad hoc  funding requests                                                               
have  been received  over the  years and  its often  difficult to                                                               
decide which  community to  award.   The bill  would allow  for a                                                               
more open and transparent process.   He offered to share examples                                                               
of the conditions  of fire houses across  the state, highlighting                                                               
the significant need.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT opened public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:19:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROLE   TRIEM,   Intergovernmental   Affairs   Manager,   Alaska                                                               
Municipal League  (AML), gave public  testimony in support  of HB
207.  She pointed out that  public safety and fire protection are                                                               
among  the core  services  expected of  local  governments.   She                                                               
opined that  the Fire Station Grant  Program would go a  long way                                                               
towards meeting crucial public safety needs across the state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT  closed public testimony and  sought questions                                                               
from members of the committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:21:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  whether  the program  is separate  or                                                               
whether  the   bill  sponsor  envisions  it   coming  in  through                                                               
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE   said  he  hopes  that   it  would  help                                                               
facilitate  more communication.    He explained  that  HB 207  is                                                               
designed  to be  complementary  to existing  funding sources  for                                                               
fire stations and would allow for long-range planning.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX observed  that local  efforts have  not been                                                               
coordinated in  North Pole  and relayed  that requests  have been                                                               
disconnected as opposed to integrated.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE acknowledge  that different  needs should                                                               
be considered, balanced, and prioritized.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:26:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND asked about  the current status of funding                                                               
for fire stations.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  there  has been  a diminishment  of                                                               
state  support for  fire  station  renovation, construction,  and                                                               
capital needs.   The lack of funding is evidenced  by some of the                                                               
identified needs.  He directed the question to Chief Kuiper.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:28:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF  KUIPER  said   all  efforts  to  find   funding  has  been                                                               
exhausted.  There  was some opportunity through AFT  on a federal                                                               
level, but  capacity is  limited.  There  are also  federal brick                                                               
grants   and   others   that   departments   have   applied   for                                                               
unsuccessfully.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND   shared  his  understanding   that  fire                                                               
stations are  fairly integrated facilities and  expressed concern                                                               
that "fire station  grants" is too prescriptive  for these multi-                                                               
layered funding streams.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE shared  his  belief  that local  entities                                                               
could  piece together  funding streams  for a  more comprehensive                                                               
renovation.  He added that  whether grant program is too limiting                                                               
would  depend  on  the  regulations   and  criteria  for  program                                                               
eligibility.   He opined that  the bill, as written,  would offer                                                               
enough flexibility, but welcomed further input.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:32:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALL asked  whether  the 50  percent  match is  a                                                               
traditional percentage split  for similar programs; additionally,                                                               
she asked whether the intent is  to braid funding with public and                                                               
private dollars through the course of the program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE shared his  belief that yes, funding could                                                               
be braided and offered to follow up on the 50 percent match.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:33:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS asked whether the  list in members' packets of new                                                               
fire   station    construction   and   renovated    projects   is                                                               
comprehensive.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF  KUIPER yes,  the  list is  the  comprehensive list  that's                                                               
dynamic  and  constantly  updated.     He  added  that  with  new                                                               
construction  estimates, the  list  increased by  $30 million  in                                                               
construction costs over the past yar.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEARS  asked whether  there is  a need  to cast  the net                                                               
wider to capture the needs of smaller communities.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. KUIPER  responded that it  was created as a  preliminary list                                                               
to identify need  across Alaska.  He added that  the intent is to                                                               
ensure that every community in Alaska is aware of the program.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:36:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS  asked  whether   the  Division  of  Community  &                                                               
Regional  Affairs is  involved in  efforts to  identify community                                                               
needs for fire stations and facilities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA  MOLLER,  Director,  Division   of  Community  &  Regional                                                               
Affairs,   Department   of   Commerce,   Community   &   Economic                                                               
Development, answered no, not at this time.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEARS  asked  whether   the  division  would  have  the                                                               
capacity   to  identify   community  needs   for  public   safety                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOLLER said it depends on how robust the program would be.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:39:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND asked  whether  public safety  facilities                                                               
and other community infrastructure is catalogued.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOLLER  responded yes, there  is a community  database online                                                               
that's fairly robust; however at  present, it does not track this                                                               
specific need, but it could be added.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF KUIPER  said if the  program were enacted, AFCA  would work                                                               
with  the Department  of Public  Safety (DPS)  and Ms.  Moller to                                                               
update the database.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:41:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX   asked  whether  Department   of  Commerce,                                                               
Community   &  Economic   Development  (DCCED)   has  a   capital                                                               
improvements list from municipal governments.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOLLER answered no, there's no database for unmet needs.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:44:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HIMSCHOOT asked how the funding would be dispersed.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  as  currently proposed,  regulation                                                               
would  determine the  disbursement of  funding.   The legislature                                                               
would  appropriate  money to  the  fund,  which would  allow  the                                                               
department to provide  grants of up to 50 percent  of the cost of                                                               
the renovation or new construction.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT  said  she  would like  to  see  some  parity                                                               
between urban and rural that's not guaranteed in regulation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked whether the bill  sponsor had explored                                                               
funding mechanisms other than the general fund (GF).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE answered no.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HIMSCHOOT shared  her understanding  that when  another                                                               
state approves  a capital project,  they put aside 3  percent for                                                               
maintenance.   She asked whether  that would feel  like overreach                                                               
to the bill sponsor.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE said  he would  need more  information on                                                               
the structure of that program.   Nonetheless, he said he was open                                                               
to exploring options.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 207 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 207 - Sponsor Statement 4.30.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 Version A (34-LS0913A) 4.25.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 Sectional Analysis - Version A 4.30.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 Fiscal Note - DCCED-DCRA 5.2.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HB 207 - AFCA Letter of Support 5.5.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/13/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207
HCRA Presentation by RurALCAP 5.6.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
RurAL CAP
HB 207 Presentation - Fire Station Grant Program 5.6.25.pdf HCRA 5/6/2025 8:00:00 AM
HB 207