Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

01/26/2024 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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+= HB 243 BISON DRAW PERMIT APPLICATION FEE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 201 RESIDENCY REQ: HUNTING, TRAPPING, FISHING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        HB 201-RESIDENCY REQ: HUNTING, TRAPPING, FISHING                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:24:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  201, "An Act changing  the residency requirements                                                               
for  hunting,   trapping,  and  sport  fishing   privileges;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:24:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY opened  public  testimony  on HB  201  and asked  if                                                               
Representative  Himschoot  would   please  remain  available  for                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:25:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID EGELSEON,  representing self,  identified as a  retired New                                                               
York State Trooper with 30 years  of experience.  He also said he                                                               
is  a  current  member  of  the East  Prince  of  Wales  Advisory                                                               
Committee.    He said  he  fully  supported  HB 201  and  thanked                                                               
Representative Himschoot and staff  for crafting the legislation.                                                               
He provided an  example from Thorne Bay, where  there are hunters                                                               
and fishers that  live on the island only 2-4  months of the year                                                               
and  are not  legal  residents.   He  continued  that these  fake                                                               
residents also go north to  hunt caribou, sheep, goats, and brown                                                               
[grizzly] bears.  He stated he  has lived in Alaska only 12 years                                                               
but intends to stay.  He  held a strong belief that the resources                                                               
are  essential  to  residents  first  before  sharing  them  with                                                               
outsiders.   He urged the  committee to require  non-residents to                                                               
pay for the  privilege to hunt and fish in  Alaska the way Alaska                                                               
residents  do.    He  said  the  requirements  are  too  low  for                                                               
residency status.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:29:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART EDDY,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 201                                                               
as  a   fourth-generation  Alaskan,  commercial   fisherman,  and                                                               
hunting guide.  He opined  that the current hunting, fishing, and                                                               
trapping requirements  are too lenient,  and those  resources are                                                               
being taken  advantage of.   He  cited that  the state  is losing                                                               
money from  the Pittman-Robertson [Act] and  Dingell-Johnson Act.                                                               
He  advocated for  HB  201  as a  tool  for  law enforcement  and                                                               
citizens.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:30:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KENT BARKHAU, representing self, testified  in support of HB 201.                                                               
From his  perspective, he  said, it  is a  privilege to  hunt and                                                               
fish in  Alaska.  He  cited the  requirements to hunt,  fish, and                                                               
trap  should be  the same  as the  permanent fund  dividend (PFD)                                                               
requirements.  He advocated for HB  201 as well as the Sitka Fish                                                               
and Game Advisory Council.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:33:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAKE COMBS,  representing self, testified  in full support  of HB
201 because  it would  ensure the residents  access to  what they                                                               
need  to hunt,  fish, and  trap.   He advocated  for a  six-month                                                               
residency  standard.    He  said the  privilege  of  hunting  and                                                               
fishing far outweighs  the amount of the PFD and  objected to the                                                               
current  requirement  for  a  non-resident  hunting  and  fishing                                                               
license.  He  concluded that non-residents should not  be able to                                                               
take fish and game out of state without paying a fee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:36:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM BRENNAN,  representing self, said  he opposed HB  201 because                                                               
it would penalize bona fide residents  such as himself.  He lives                                                               
in  both Washington  and  Alaska  but does  not  receive the  PFD                                                               
because he  is not eligible.   He said he regarded  himself as an                                                               
Alaskan and there  are better ways to mitigate  the problem other                                                               
than HB 201.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:39:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAD FUJIOKA, representing  self, spoke in support of HB  201 as a                                                               
fourth-generation Alaskan.   He emphasized HB 201  would help the                                                               
Alaska Wildlife Troopers, ADF&G, and residents.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:41:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEWIS HIATT, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 201.                                                               
He urged the committee to  better define the term "resident" with                                                               
an example  of a California  couple that fish halibut,  crab, and                                                               
shrimp claiming resident status but ship  it to the Lower 48.  He                                                               
expressed concern  for his children  that still rely  on Alaska's                                                               
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:44:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL JOHNSON, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 201                                                               
and described  what it was  like before  statehood.  He  said the                                                               
Alaska National Interest Lands  Conservation Act (ANILCA) created                                                               
a loophole for non-residents to  claim residency on federal lands                                                               
and HB 201 would close that loophole.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT BECK, representing  self, testified that he  had purchased a                                                               
non-resident hunting and fishing  license and subsequently became                                                               
a resident.   He stressed  that out-of-state visitors  are taking                                                               
Alaska's resources  and do  not give back  to the  communities in                                                               
which they hunt  and fish.  He stressed the  cost of groceries is                                                               
rising and  resources are declining  and difficult to  get access                                                               
to for residents.   He cited the Pitman-Robertson Act  as a means                                                               
to obtain additional funds for ADF&G.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:49:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHET POWELL,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 201                                                               
because  the residency  requirement is  too easy  to obtain.   He                                                               
urged  the  committee to  synchronize  the  PFD and  hunting  and                                                               
fishing requirements.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:51:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOEY  EDMUNDS,  representing  self,  testified that  she  was  in                                                               
support of  HB 201  because the  current requirements  for Alaska                                                               
residency should  be stricter.   She said non-residents  create a                                                               
greater  [hunting/fishing]   pressure.    She  opined   that  the                                                               
residency standard is negatively affecting revenue for ADF&G.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS HARDEN, representing self, testified  in support of HB 201                                                               
because  it  makes  sense  and   assists  with  law  enforcement.                                                               
Seasonal workers take many of  the resources with no intention of                                                               
living  in the  state.   He  contended that  Alaska needs  higher                                                               
standards.   He  advocated  for the  Pittman-Robertson Act  which                                                               
raises money for conservation issues.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:55:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SEAN DAVIS,  representing self,  testified in  support of  HB 201                                                               
due to the  hunting and fishing pressure from  non-residents.  He                                                               
said mirroring  the PFD requirement  would help measure  a system                                                               
that is already in place.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:57:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN CASTLE, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 201                                                               
because  summer  visitors  setting halibut  skates  exploit  that                                                               
resource.    He  suggested   more  restrictive  requirements  for                                                               
residency.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:58:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS   NICKERSON,   Tribal   President,   Klawock   Cooperative                                                               
Association  Tribe;   Chair,  Klawock  Fish  and   Game  Advisory                                                               
Committee,  testified that  the  Klawock Tribe  supported HB  201                                                               
specifically for the  hunting, fishing, and trapping  clause.  He                                                               
felt  residents  are  threatened  by  non-residents  hunters  and                                                               
fishers.   He  advocated for  a balanced  approach to  harvesting                                                               
fish  and game  throughout  the year.   He  said  the tribe  also                                                               
continues with the traditional barter  system to share with those                                                               
in need.   He stated that food  security is as high  as it's ever                                                               
been  and  non-residents have  been  exploiting  Prince of  Wales                                                               
Island  for  a long  time.    He  stated  that salmon  have  been                                                               
depleted by  out-of-state fishers and  thanked the sponsor  of HB
201, Representative Himschoot.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LARRY RIVERS, representing self, testified  in support of HB 201.                                                               
He claimed the  residency requirement is too  loose and difficult                                                               
to enforce.   He  said he has  seen people stay  in Alaska  for a                                                               
couple months,  get a post  office box,  and leave the  state but                                                               
still claim residency.  He  insisted that the six-month residency                                                               
is far  too lenient  and suggest  it be changed  to eight  or ten                                                               
months for residency status.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:02:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELLEN  HANNAN,   representing  self,  identified  herself   as  a                                                               
lifelong  resident of  Alaska and  said  HB 201  would close  the                                                               
loophole on  residency status by  tying it to the  Permanent Fund                                                               
Dividend  residency  requirements.     She  maintained  residents                                                               
should be prioritized when it comes to Alaska's resources.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:04:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY, after ascertaining there  was no one else who wished                                                               
to testify, closed public testimony on HB 201.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:04:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced that HB 201 was held over.                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 201 Research - Requirements to Qualify for an Alaska Resident Hunting, Trapping or Sportfishing License 1.15.24.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Fiscal Note - DFG-DAS 1.20.24.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Research - Examples of Resident and Non-Resident Hunting Regulations 1.19.24.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Research - Requirements for Resident License and Permanent Fund Dividend 1.19.24.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Research - Allowable Absences 1.4.24.pdf HRES 1/24/2024 1:00:00 PM
HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Research - Alaska Resident and Non-Resident License Fees 5.17.23.pdf HRES 1/24/2024 1:00:00 PM
HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Sectional Analysis - Version U 5.16.23.pdf HRES 1/24/2024 1:00:00 PM
HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Research - Southeast Alaska Resident and Non-Resident Sportfishing Regulations 5.12.23.pdf HRES 1/24/2024 1:00:00 PM
HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Sponsor Statement - Version U 1.12.24.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 243 Public Testimony (Corcoran).pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 243
HB243-Letter of support from Don Quarberg.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 243
HB243 Letter of support from Vern Aiton.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 243
HB 201 Public Testimony (Fox).pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Public Testimony (Horan).pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
House Bill 201 Public Testimony (Vorisek).pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201
HB 201 Written Testimony Received by 2.2.24.pdf HRES 1/26/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 201