Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/01/2003 03:14 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 199                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act removing the annual adjustment to the minimum                                                                      
     wage based on the rate of inflation; and providing for                                                                     
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    NORMAN    ROKEBERG,   SPONSOR,    provided                                                                    
information  regarding the  legislation.   He discussed  the                                                                    
history  and methodology  behind  the bill,  which tied  the                                                                    
minimum wage  to the consumer  price index (CPI)  and/or one                                                                    
dollar above federal standard.   He suggested that an annual                                                                    
increase  in the  minimum wage  would  have an  inflationary                                                                    
impact  on the  State's  economy.   He  speculated that  the                                                                    
increases affected  potential employers and  would increased                                                                    
unemployment.     He  noted  competing   theories  regarding                                                                    
minimum wage legislation.   He noted that one  point of view                                                                    
indicated that legislative  action created negative impacts,                                                                    
but that the  other side stated that increase  in income had                                                                    
a positive impact  on lower income workers.   He stated that                                                                    
he adhered to  the belief that the impact  of increases were                                                                    
negative,  and  quoted  research  by  the  Ohio  University,                                                                    
analyzing law in Washington  State.  Representative Rokeberg                                                                    
stressed that  the bill would  not cut the minimum  wage and                                                                    
emphasized  that Alaska's  $7.15 per  hour minimum  wage was                                                                    
the  highest   in  the  country.     He  questioned  whether                                                                    
businesses could  afford an increase and  suggested that the                                                                    
largest provider of jobs in  this sector was the hospitality                                                                    
industry.  He  stated that the industry had been  hit with a                                                                    
27  percent increase.    He maintained  that  this sent  the                                                                    
message the Alaska was not "open for business".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BENJAMIN BROWN,  ALASKA STATE CHAMBER OF  COMMERCE testified                                                                    
in  support  of  the  bill.    He  acknowledged  the  debate                                                                    
engendered  by the  legislation.   He suggested  de-indexing                                                                    
the  Alaska  minimum  wage  from the  national  index.    He                                                                    
discussed economic  theories, such  as the  "invisible hand"                                                                    
theory.  He  maintained  that the  "invisible  hand"  became                                                                    
visible when the minimum wage  increase was implemented with                                                                    
a tie  to the  CPI index. He  explained that  employers were                                                                    
forced to pay the amount specified  by the state.  He stated                                                                    
that the  bill did  not reduce minimum  wage, but  created a                                                                    
system of  automatically deciding  the proper  minimum wage,                                                                    
rather  than allowing  future debate  based  on the  economy                                                                    
needs.   He  also noted  that  some believe  that using  the                                                                    
consumer price index created an  artificial inflation in the                                                                    
economy.   He  added that  there was  a suggestion  that the                                                                    
legislature  was  aggregating  an earlier  decision  by  de-                                                                    
indexing the minimum  wage, and suggested that  there was no                                                                    
legal implication against the State in this regard.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHIP  WAGONER,  ALASKA   CATHOLIC  CONFERENCE  testified  in                                                                    
opposition to  the bill and  expressed the  Church's support                                                                    
of the minimum  wage. He discussed the concept  of a "living                                                                    
wage" to support  individuals with dignity.   He pointed out                                                                    
that  the  current  minimum wage  still  placed  individuals                                                                    
below  the  poverty level.    He  discussed the  two  public                                                                    
policy  issues when  evaluating the  minimum wage.  He first                                                                    
emphasized  that the  legislature should  determine a  floor                                                                    
below  which the  legislature believed  was an  unjust wage.                                                                    
Once a  just minimum wage  is determined by  the legislature                                                                    
then it should remain constant  with the economy in terms of                                                                    
inflation  because  below  that   minimum  wage  it  becomes                                                                    
unjust. The  second public issue is  economics. He suggested                                                                    
that  the main  arguments  against indexing  dealt with  the                                                                    
cost of jobs.   He urged the Committee  to carefully examine                                                                    
the  source of  information in  this  area.   He noted  that                                                                    
professionals  in  this  area could  create  information  to                                                                    
support their  viewpoints. He suggested that  the Employment                                                                    
Policies  Institute  was  historically against  the  minimum                                                                    
wage, and  the Economic  Institute was historically  for the                                                                    
minimum wage.   He discussed  information from the  state of                                                                    
Alaska. He noted  that according to Department  of Labor and                                                                    
Workforce  Development  there  are  only  14,000  people  in                                                                    
Alaska  earning  the minimum  wage.  He  argued that  14,000                                                                    
people   earning   minimum   wage  would   not   create   an                                                                    
inflationary spiral  that would  affect the entire  state of                                                                    
Alaska.  Of these  14,000, about  a third  were in  the food                                                                    
service/drinking industry.   He noted that  these industries                                                                    
were those  against the  minimum wage  increase.   He argued                                                                    
that if there were going to be  a loss of jobs that it would                                                                    
have  occurred  between  December and  January  [2003]  when                                                                    
there  was a  $1.5 overnight  increase in  minimum wage.  He                                                                    
acknowledged  that   there  was   a  six  percent   drop  in                                                                    
employment,  but   pointed  out  that  the   drop  could  be                                                                    
attributed to the seasonal drop,  which occurred at the same                                                                    
time  in  the previous  year.    He  stated that  a  similar                                                                    
situation  occurred  in Washington  State.    He quoted  the                                                                    
state of  Washington concluded that: "There  does not appear                                                                    
to be  a direct correlation  between the index  minimum wage                                                                    
and the number  of jobs in the  food service/drinking places                                                                    
industry." He  concluded that  a the  raise in  minimum wage                                                                    
was only one factor among many  in terms of job loss and the                                                                    
numbers don't  prove that there has  been a job loss  in the                                                                    
food service/drinking places industry.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DON  ETHERIDGE, AFL-CIO  testified on  behalf of  his 60,000                                                                    
members  in opposition  to  the  bill.   He  noted that  his                                                                    
organization petitioned  to achieve  an increase  in minimum                                                                    
wage.  He  pointed out that the  subsequent increase finally                                                                    
raised  Alaska's rank  from  being the  lowest  on the  west                                                                    
coast.  He  suggested that the first CPI  increase should be                                                                    
observed  before repealing  it.   He  noted  that the  first                                                                    
increase would be a 14-cent  increase that should not impact                                                                    
businesses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  RUGINA,  ALASKA  HOSPITALITY  ALLIANCE  testified  in                                                                    
support of  the bill.   She  provided information  of losses                                                                    
experienced by  restaurants and hotels  due to  increases in                                                                    
wages, and  explained that  hotels and  restaurants operated                                                                    
on a  narrow margin.   She suggested  that the  increase, in                                                                    
combination with  an increase in  insurance and  decrease in                                                                    
customers.   She  suggested that  benefits  were being  cut.                                                                    
She  gave examples  of businesses  that had  decided not  to                                                                    
come to  Alaska due to  the increase  in minimum wage.   She                                                                    
noted a natural  CPI indexing occurred in  the business with                                                                    
an increase in  menu prices.  She concluded  that this added                                                                    
more uncertainty to an already uncertain climate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JAY SUTHERLAND,  ANCHORAGE, testified via  teleconference in                                                                    
support of  the bill.   He  stated that  he is  a restaurant                                                                    
operator and noted that his  business had been forced to lay                                                                    
off  employees  and  suggested that  there  would  be  fewer                                                                    
future jobs for youth.  He  noted that the CPI was suggested                                                                    
in  Washington State,  and referred  to its  effects on  the                                                                    
industry.   He maintained that businesses  invested in other                                                                    
states to avoid this restriction.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BROWN,  PRESIDENT, LABOR COUNCIL,  FAIRBANKS, testified                                                                    
via  teleconference in  opposition to  the bill.   He  noted                                                                    
that  50 thousand  people signed  a petition  supporting CPI                                                                    
indexing, and maintained that legislators  had also voted to                                                                    
support it.   He suggested  that workers needed a  fair wage                                                                    
and that  if wages were  not guaranteed it  would negatively                                                                    
affect  the  economy.   He  maintained  that all  businesses                                                                    
competed on an equal basis.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JACK LEWIS,  SOUR MINING  COMPANY, ANCHORAGE,  testified via                                                                    
teleconference in  support of  the bill.   He  stressed that                                                                    
the last increase  was sizable and that, for  the first time                                                                    
ever, he  was not able to  pass along the increases  in menu                                                                    
prices.   He referenced  the liquor tax  in addition  to the                                                                    
minimum  wage  increase.   He  noted  the need  to  decrease                                                                    
benefit  programs in  order to  accommodate  increases.   He                                                                    
stated that he did not  support an automatic increase or the                                                                    
legislature  suggesting appropriate  levels.   He  expressed                                                                    
concern  over  the  increase since  customers  were  already                                                                    
eating out less.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris  requested that the Department  of Labor and                                                                    
Workforce  Development should  produce an  additional fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HB  199  was  heard  and   HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  

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