Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

05/01/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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+= SB 57 APPROP: CAPITAL/FUNDS/REAPPROP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 27 MEDICAL MAJOR EMERGENCIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 27(HSS) Out of Committee
+ HB 194 APPROVE MARATHON PETRO ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 194 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 194                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act approving  and ratifying  the sale  of royalty                                                                    
     oil  by  the  State  of Alaska  to  Marathon  Petroleum                                                                    
     Supply and  Trading Company LLC;  and providing  for an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:53:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CROWTHER, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF NATURAL                                                                    
RESOURCES,  explained  that   the  bill  sought  legislative                                                                    
approval for  a "royalty  in kind"  contract, which  was how                                                                    
the  state disposed  its  share  of royalty  oil.  It was  a                                                                    
longstanding process and resulted in  a small premium to the                                                                    
state  versus the  average value  of royalty,  supported the                                                                    
state's refineries, and ensured  fuel security. He asked for                                                                    
the committee's support for the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RYAN FITZPATRICK,  COMMERCIAL MANAGER,  DIVISION OF  OIL AND                                                                    
GAS, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL  RESOURCES, provided a PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation titled "House Bill  194: Approve Marathon Petro                                                                    
Royalty  Oil Sale,"  dated May  1, 2025  (copy on  file). He                                                                    
began on slide 2 titled "What is "Royalty In-Kind":                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Oil  and  gas leases  issued  by  the State  reserve  a                                                                    
     "royalty share" to the State    a portion of production                                                                    
     that the State  receives as owner of  the resource. The                                                                    
     State has  the option to  take its royalty oil  and gas                                                                    
     in-value (RIV) or in-kind (RIK).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • RIV: Lessees market the  royalty oil or gas alongside                                                                    
     their own  production; the State receives  the proceeds                                                                    
     from  the sale  of  its royalty  oil,  subject to  fair                                                                    
     market value                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     •  RIK: Lessees  provide royalty  oil or  gas of  sales                                                                    
     quality  to the  State;  the State  is responsible  for                                                                    
     marketing its royalty oil or gas.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR) has  statutory                                                                    
     processes for receiving royalty:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Alaska  Statute (AS) 38.05.182  requires DNR  to make                                                                    
     best interest findings for  RIV and RIK determinations,                                                                    
     and requires  the commissioner  report annually  to the                                                                    
     Legislature about these elections                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •  AS 38.05.183  guides DNR  in  the sales  of RIK  and                                                                    
     requires  that contracts  meet  a  number of  statutory                                                                    
     criteria  and, in  certain  cases, receive  legislative                                                                    
     approval before being entered into                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • AS 38.06  establishes the Alaska Royalty  Oil and Gas                                                                    
     Development Advisory  Board, which  reviews royalty-in-                                                                    
     kind actions by DNR                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick expounded  that the  state's royalty  share                                                                    
ranged from 12.5 percent to  approximately 16.7 percent. The                                                                    
state's  share  was  free  of   production  costs  but  paid                                                                    
transportation costs. The  state had the option  to take the                                                                    
royalty in two ways as described on the slide.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  moved to slide  3 titled "Royalty    A Core                                                                    
Lease Term." That depicted a  snapshot of royalty provisions                                                                    
and the agreement.  He turned to slide 4  titled "Sources of                                                                    
North Slope  Royalty," which showed  an overview map  of the                                                                    
North Slope. The  shaded units were state oil  and gas units                                                                    
where  the  state  received  its   share  of  production  in                                                                    
royalty-in-kind, which were  almost exclusively derived from                                                                    
North Slope leases.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:58:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  turned to slide  5 titled  "Royalty In-Kind                                                                    
Contract History                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •  The  State  has  historically  selected  to  receive                                                                    
     royalty oil both in-kind and in-value                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • About 97  percent of the State's  royalty oil in-kind                                                                    
     selections have been North Slope oil                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
       The amount of RIK oil that the State sells                                                                               
     varies and depends on many factors:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          • Alaska North Slope (ANS) oil                                                                                        
          production from state-owned lands                                                                                     
          • Royalty rates for State oil and gas                                                                                 
          leases                                                                                                                
          • State's selection of the fields from                                                                                
          which to choose RIK oil                                                                                               
        • Quantity of crude oil sought by in-state                                                                              
          refineries or other potential buyers                                                                                  
          • Competitiveness of ANS royalty oil                                                                                  
          versus other sources of crude oil for instate                                                                         
          refineries or other potential buyers                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick explained  that  that the  state had  taken                                                                    
royalty  in-kind since  1980.  The slide  portrayed a  chart                                                                    
containing  its  historical   contract  history  of  in-kind                                                                    
(green) versus  in-value royalties  (black). He  pointed out                                                                    
that the amount of  in-kind royalty varied considerably over                                                                    
the years.  He reported  that historically the  barrels were                                                                    
completely  marketed,  often out-of-state.  Recent  statutes                                                                    
required  the   department  to  support   in-state  refining                                                                    
creating a  preference for in-state refineries  or other in-                                                                    
state purchasers  before it could be  marketed out-of-state.                                                                    
He elaborated  that part of  DNR's process was to  release a                                                                    
public  notice on  potential royalty  sales to  gauge market                                                                    
demand. Over  the last  decade, there  were no  firm out-of-                                                                    
state contracts  for the  purchase of  royalty oil  and over                                                                    
the last  two decades the  royalty oil was  exclusively sold                                                                    
to in-state refiners.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:00:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick   continued  to  discuss  slide   6  titled                                                                    
 Royalty In-Kind Contract History                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • Almost all the nearly one billion barrels sold to                                                                        
     date have been sold via non-competitive sales                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Less than 5 percent has been sold via competitive                                                                        
     sales                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • The large majority of RIK oil sold to date has been                                                                      
     to in-state entities, with a few historical cases                                                                          
    where RIK oil was sold for export outside of Alaska                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  indicated that the slide  also depicted the                                                                    
history  of  the  different royalty  in-kind  contracts.  He                                                                    
noted  the  several  long-term contracts  existed  for  many                                                                    
years.   He   pointed  to   the   recent   Petro  Star   and                                                                    
Tesoro/Marathon contracts.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  briefly   discussed  slide   7  titled   "Processes  And                                                                    
Legislative Approval                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     RIK   contract  development   and  execution   involves                                                                    
     several significant steps:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •  DNR  commissioner  follows a  statutory  process  to                                                                    
     negotiate  a  proposed  sale;   then  DNR  publishes  a                                                                    
     proposed finding  describing the terms and  reasons for                                                                    
     the sale                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     •  DNR  must  brief  the Alaska  Royalty  Oil  and  Gas                                                                    
     Development Advisory  Board (AS 38.06)  (Royalty Board)                                                                    
     on  the proposed  sale and  receive the  Board's review                                                                    
     and approval                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     •  After  receiving  public  comment  on  the  proposed                                                                    
     findings, DNR publishes a final best interest finding                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
         AS   38.06.055   requires  authorization   by   the                                                                    
     Legislature before a contract can be Executed                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     There  are limited  exceptions  to  this process,  such                                                                    
     contracts to relieve storage  or market conditions with                                                                    
     a  duration of  one  year or  less,  and contracts  for                                                                    
     sales of 400 barrels per  day or less. These exceptions                                                                    
     do  not  apply  to  the  Marathon  contract  now  under                                                                    
     consideration.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick emphasized  that  before  the contract  was                                                                    
submitted  to the  legislature  for  approval, the  proposed                                                                    
contract  went  through  an  extensive  public  process.  He                                                                    
reported  that DNR  did not  receive any  public comment  on                                                                    
this contract.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  cited the last sentence  on the slide                                                                    
regarding  the  exceptions  not   applying  to  the  current                                                                    
Marathon  contract and  asked for  clarity. Mr.  Fitzpatrick                                                                    
responded that  the public process  was for  sales contracts                                                                    
such as  the Marathon  sale currently before  the committee.                                                                    
He  furthered that  the  department  had separate  statutory                                                                    
authority in  certain contracts and  was not required  to be                                                                    
submitted  to the  legislature. The  contracts went  through                                                                    
public  comment and  published a  best interest  finding and                                                                    
were usually for the short-term of  one year or less and for                                                                    
contracts  considered  di  minimus,  subject  to  a  limited                                                                    
number of  barrels or mcf  (one thousand cubic feet)  of gas                                                                    
per day.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:04:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick  examined  slide 8  titled  "Royalty  Board                                                                    
Review:"                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS 38.06.050  requires the Alaska  Royalty Oil  and Gas                                                                    
     Development Advisory Board:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • To provide  a written recommendation of  the board on                                                                    
     the proposed sale, submitted to  the Legislature at the                                                                    
     time a bill approving  the proposed sale is introduced,                                                                    
     and                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • To provide a report  on the criteria used to evaluate                                                                    
     the proposed sale.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick  indicated  that the  slide  also  depicted                                                                    
portions  of  the  board's  resolution  and  report  to  the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  turned   to  slide  9   titled  "Royalty   Board  Review                                                                    
Criteria:"                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 38.06.070.  Criteria. (a) In  the exercise  of its                                                                    
     powers under AS                                                                                                            
    38.06.040(a) and 38.06.050 the board shall consider                                                                         
     (1) the  revenue needs  and projected  fiscal condition                                                                    
     of the state;                                                                                                              
     (2) the  existence and extent of  present and projected                                                                    
     local and regional  needs for oil and  gas products and                                                                    
     by-products, the  effect of state or  federal commodity                                                                    
     allocation  requirements which  might be  applicable to                                                                    
     those  products  and  by-products, and  the  priorities                                                                    
     among competing needs;                                                                                                     
     (3) the  desirability of localized  capital investment,                                                                    
     increased  payroll,  secondary  development  and  other                                                                    
     possible  effects  of  the  sale,  exchange,  or  other                                                                    
     disposition of oil and gas or both;                                                                                        
   (4) the projected social impacts of the transaction;                                                                         
     (5)    the     projected    additional     costs    and                                                                    
     responsibilities which could be                                                                                            
     imposed   upon  the   state   and  affected   political                                                                    
     subdivisions    by   development    related   to    the                                                                    
     transaction;                                                                                                               
     (6) the  existence of specific local  or regional labor                                                                    
     or consumption markets  or both which should  be met by                                                                    
     the transaction;                                                                                                           
     (7) the  projected positive and  negative environmental                                                                    
     effects related to the transaction; and                                                                                    
     (8) the  projected effects of the  proposed transaction                                                                    
     upon   existing  private   commercial  enterprise   and                                                                    
     patterns of investments.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     (b) When it is economically  feasible and in the public                                                                    
     interest, the  board may recommend to  the commissioner                                                                    
     of natural  resources, as  a condition  of the  sale of                                                                    
     oil or gas obtained by the state as royalty, that                                                                          
     (1)  the oil  or gas  be  refined or  processed in  the                                                                    
     state;                                                                                                                     
     (2) the  purchaser be a  refiner who  supplies products                                                                    
     to the Alaska market with price or supply benefits to                                                                      
     state citizens; or                                                                                                         
   (3) the purchaser construct a processing or refining                                                                         
     facility in the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The board shall  make a full report  to the legislature                                                                    
     on  each criterion  specified  in (a)  or  (b) of  this                                                                    
     section for any disposition of  royalty oil or gas that                                                                    
     requires  legislative  approval.   The  board's  report                                                                    
     shall be  submitted for legislative review  at the time                                                                    
     a  bill   for  legislative   approval  of   a  proposed                                                                    
     disposition of royalty oil or  gas is introduced in the                                                                    
     legislature.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  reported that  DNR worked  extensively with                                                                    
the  royalty  board  regarding  the  Marathon  contract  and                                                                    
passed  a   resolution  in  support  of   the  contract.  He                                                                    
discussed slide 10 titled "Recent  RIK Contracts:" The chart                                                                    
portrayed  several   of  the  more  recent   contracts.  The                                                                    
proposed  Marathon contract  showed a  royalty volume  range                                                                    
(nomination range)  from 10,000  to 15,000 barrels  per day,                                                                    
which  could  vary  between the  range.  He  disclosed  that                                                                    
Marathon only negotiated a three-year  contract in its prior                                                                    
contract. Currently,  Marathon started  with a  primary term                                                                    
of 3 years  with an option of 7 years  of annual extensions.                                                                    
The options were exercised one  year at a time. Either party                                                                    
maintained  the option  to terminate  the contract  in three                                                                    
years or  at the end  of each subsequent year.  In addition,                                                                    
if  both parties  were  satisfied, they  had  the option  to                                                                    
continue the contract.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   asked  about  the   mutual  consent                                                                    
contract  extension.  She  asked  who  was  responsible  for                                                                    
agreeing to  the extension concerning the  state's interest.                                                                    
Mr. Fitzpatrick  answered that the decision  on renewals was                                                                    
undertaken  by the  department.  Functionally, the  decision                                                                    
was made  by the  commissioner, but  the decisions  were run                                                                    
through  the Division  of Oil  and  Gas and  managed by  the                                                                    
Commercial  Section.  Representative  Hannan  asked  if  the                                                                    
annual  extension  required  a  specific  time  period.  She                                                                    
thought  a one  year  extension seemed  short. She  wondered                                                                    
whether the state could initiate  the request to extend. Mr.                                                                    
Fitzpatrick answered  that there  was a notice  period prior                                                                    
to  the  end  of  each  subsequent one  year  term  and  the                                                                    
agreement had to  be made prior to the end  of each term. He                                                                    
furthered that the requirement lasted  30 or 60 days and the                                                                    
decision  had to  be made  before the  contract lapsed.  The                                                                    
department had  a certain window  when the producers  had to                                                                    
be notified that the state  was electing royalty in-kind and                                                                    
the  stated  needed certainty  that  the  contract would  be                                                                    
renewed  prior  to  the  nomination  window,  therefore  the                                                                    
actual  time-period to  renew or  lapse  was several  months                                                                    
before the end of the other time periods.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  deduced that the chart  showed all of                                                                    
the  contracts  that  had  been  approved  since  2016.  Mr.                                                                    
Fitzpatrick  replied  affirmatively.  Representative  Galvin                                                                    
thought that  the current Marathon  contract was  a standout                                                                    
due to  the seven year  optional potential. She  wondered if                                                                    
there  was any  inherent reason  for  it to  be designed  so                                                                    
differently  than  other  past  contracts.  Mr.  Fitzpatrick                                                                    
answered  that  the  chart   depicted  "adjustments  to  the                                                                    
contracts" versus  brand new contracts. The  extensions were                                                                    
a  method to  extend the  contract on  a basis  both parties                                                                    
understood. He  characterized it as a  modification versus a                                                                    
wholesale   change  in   terms.  In   addition,  longer-term                                                                    
contracts were a positive thing  for the state and important                                                                    
part of energy security.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin believed  that  it appeared  positive                                                                    
that  the  producers were  looking  to  have a  longer  term                                                                    
commitment. She thought it locked  in the number of barrels.                                                                    
She asked if there was any  reason for the state to hesitate                                                                    
to  lock  in for  a  longer  period  of time.  Mr.  Crowther                                                                    
responded  that  the pricing  term  had  also been  adjusted                                                                    
slightly to lock in the premium  but also float year to year                                                                    
with an  adjustment rather than  being fixed for  the entire                                                                    
term of the contract. He  indicated that prior contracts had                                                                    
a  fixed  model.  The  more flexible  the  contract  with  a                                                                    
guaranteed  premium  and  option  to extend  worked  in  the                                                                    
state's favor.  Representative Galvin  deemed that  it could                                                                    
be  very helpful  for  the  company to  have  a fixed  price                                                                    
because it  would know what  its profits looked like  in the                                                                    
future. She wanted  to determine whether the  state had done                                                                    
its best to capture the  most revenue possible. Mr. Crowther                                                                    
answered  that the  contract  did not  expose  the state  to                                                                    
underpricing due  to the  contract's price  terms associated                                                                    
with an index that changes with the market.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:16:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  inquired whether the  legislature had                                                                    
ever rejected  a royalty  in-kind contract  and if  so, why.                                                                    
Mr. Crowther  replied in the  negative. He believed  that it                                                                    
was in part, due to the robust public process.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  turned to slide 11  titled "Competitive Vs.                                                                    
Non-Competitive Sales:"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • AS 38.05.183  requires the sale of royalty  oil be by                                                                    
     competitive  bid,  unless   determined  that  the  best                                                                    
     interest  of  the State  does  not  require it,  or  no                                                                    
     competition exists                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • A non-competitive sale requires  a written finding by                                                                    
     DNR; for  the Marathon contract, a  Final Best Interest                                                                    
     Finding was published on April 14, 2025                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • How  does DNR decide  between a competitive  and non-                                                                    
     competitive sale?  • DNR  publishes a  "Solicitation of                                                                    
     Interest" letter with the goal  of gauging the interest                                                                    
     of the market                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • In this letter,  DNR establishes its preferred method                                                                    
     of  sale  (i.e.,  competitive  disposition)  with  non-                                                                    
     binding parameters for such sale                                                                                           
     • Interested  parties are invited  to comment  on their                                                                    
     willingness to buy RIK oil and their preferred terms                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     •  DNR analyzes  those  responses and  makes a  written                                                                    
     determination  of the  method of  sale that  is in  the                                                                    
     best interest of the State                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     When  awarding a  royalty sale  the commissioner  shall                                                                    
     consider:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • The cash value offered;                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     •  The  projected effects  of  the  sale, exchange,  or                                                                    
     other disposal on the economy of the state;                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • The projected benefits  of refining or processing the                                                                    
     oil or gas in the state;                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     •  The  ability of  the  prospective  buyer to  provide                                                                    
     refined  products or  by-products for  distribution and                                                                    
     sale in the state with  price or supply benefits to the                                                                    
     citizens of the state; and                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •  The criteria  listed in  AS 38.06.070(a)  There have                                                                    
     been very limited competitive sales in the past:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Competitive sales  of RIK oil only  occurred in 1981,                                                                    
     1985, and 1986                                                                                                             
     • Less  than 5 percent  of RIK oil (46  million barrels                                                                    
     of approximately  one billion overall barrels)  sold to                                                                    
     date has been via competitive sales                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  communicated that when DNR  only dealt with                                                                    
a single purchaser it was  viewed as potentially problematic                                                                    
from  a   competitive  standpoint.   The  bidder   lacked  a                                                                    
competitive  environment and  lacked  the  incentive to  bid                                                                    
over the minimum of the bid.  The state would then engage in                                                                    
non-competitive  sales and  enter  into direct  negotiations                                                                    
with  the  producer  to  increase   the  premium  the  state                                                                    
received.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:18:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  addressed slide 12  titled "Royalty-in-Kind                                                                    
In-State Priority                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DNR is statutorily directed to give a priority to in-                                                                      
     state RIK sales:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      Sec. 38.05.183. Sale of royalty.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          d) Oil  or gas taken in  kind by the state  as its                                                                    
          royalty  share,  or  gas delivered  to  the  state                                                                    
          under  AS   43.55.014(b)  may   not  be   sold  or                                                                    
          otherwise disposed  of for  export from  the state                                                                    
          until the commissioner determines  that the oil or                                                                    
          gas  is  surplus  to  the  present  and  projected                                                                    
         intrastate domestic and industrial needs                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick reiterated  that no  out of  state interest                                                                    
had resulted in an in-kind purchase in many years.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:19:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick moved  to slide  13 titled  "The Historical                                                                    
Premium for RIK Sales                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • 11 Alaska Administrative Code 03.026(b) states that                                                                      
     the RIK price should be at least equal to the RIV                                                                          
     price                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • From 2008 - 2023 the average RIK price was                                                                               
     $1.25/bbl. higher than that RIV price                                                                                      
     • The State sold over 173 million barrels of royalty                                                                       
     oil during this period                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     • RIK sales proceeds were $12.99 billion                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • The State made over $188 million in revenue compared                                                                     
     to taking the royalty barrels in-value                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  cited the slide's  graph that  depicted the                                                                    
premium  of RIK  price over  RIV price  for ANS  royalty oil                                                                    
from  January 2008  through November  2024.  He pointed  out                                                                    
that the  zero dollar mark  demarked the break  even between                                                                    
the RIK  and RIV sales.  He indicated in almost  every month                                                                    
the state managed  to secure a premium for  in-kind sales of                                                                    
over $1 to $3 relative to  RIV sales excluding a few periods                                                                    
of   market   instability.   The  in-kind   sales   garnered                                                                    
additional revenue for the state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick  turned to  slide  14  titled  RIK  Process                                                                    
Overview."  He  briefly reported that the  slide contained a                                                                    
flow chart of the Royalty  In-Kind process, which he already                                                                    
discussed in detail.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:21:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick advanced  to  slide 15  titled "Recent  RIK                                                                    
Contract Key Terms:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Netback Pricing                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   DNR sells its royalty oil at the field or "wellhead"                                                                         
     and bases the price on  market sales price indices with                                                                    
     various costs  backed out. Thus,  the price  of royalty                                                                    
     oil is  calculated by "netting  back" the price  of ANS                                                                    
     oil from the U.S. West Coast to the field.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     RIK price =                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          ANS price at the U.S. West Coast                                                                                      
          - RIK Differential                                                                                                    
          - Pipeline transportation cost                                                                                        
          +/- Quality bank adjustment                                                                                           
          - Line loss                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick explained  that  the chart  was similar  to                                                                    
slide 10 with the same  contracts exemplified and related to                                                                    
Representative Galvin's questions  regarding price terms and                                                                    
the potential for  longer term contracts. He  pointed to the                                                                    
far  right   hand  column  titled  "RIK   Differential."  He                                                                    
explained  that   it  showed   the  pricing  term   for  the                                                                    
contracts.   The  RIK   differential   along  with   another                                                                    
"location differential  contract" was  an equivalent  of the                                                                    
marine  transportation  costs   when  comparing  the  United                                                                    
States (US) west coast price  using the market price indices                                                                    
for  the  sales and  backed  the  price  into the  state  of                                                                    
Alaska. The negotiated price did  not have to match Alaska's                                                                    
actual marine cost and was  less than the total marine cost.                                                                    
He  revealed that  there was  a built  in premium  for sales                                                                    
that occurred  in the  state relative  to West  Coast sales.                                                                    
The  chart  portrayed  the  previous  RIK  differential  was                                                                    
negotiated on a fixed dollar basis  and was locked in at the                                                                    
prices shown  on the chart.  He noted  that the price  was a                                                                    
subtraction from  what the state  received from a  barrel of                                                                    
oil.  However, in  the  current year,  instead  of fixing  a                                                                    
price,  the  department  used  DOR's  location  differential                                                                    
based on surveys of all  of the oil sales contracts executed                                                                    
in  the state  over 12  months. The  updates were  published                                                                    
each year  that contained the location  differential for the                                                                    
Alaska market. The state used  the location differential for                                                                    
its  reference  value  and negotiated  a  discount  off  the                                                                    
location  differential to  establish  a  premium, which  was                                                                    
$0.24 in the current year.  It reduced the deduction against                                                                    
the  state's  value  of  oil in  addition  to  the  in-state                                                                    
premium. He expounded  that because the state  used a market                                                                    
value reference  that was updated  on an annual  basis based                                                                    
on  the market  survey, it  provided DNR  the confidence  to                                                                    
offer a potential longer term  contract. He believed that it                                                                    
reduced  the   potential  to   diminish  or   eliminate  the                                                                    
additional profit, and the model  locked in the premium over                                                                    
the life of the contract.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:26:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick addressed  slide  16 titled  "Why RIK?"  He                                                                    
explained that  the graphics  showed the  value chain  for a                                                                    
barrel  of  oil in  ANS  in-value  royalty and  ANS  in-kind                                                                    
royalty. He  pointed out  that both  started at  $80/bbl and                                                                    
detailed that  the marine  transportation allowance  for in-                                                                    
value  oil   was  $3.50  while  the   RIK  differential  was                                                                    
$2.25/bbl. There was a deduction  on both of $6.00 for other                                                                    
transportation  costs and  adjustments. The  resulting price                                                                    
per barrel  for RIK  oil was $71.75/bbl.  and the  RIV price                                                                    
was $70.50/bbl. He noted that the prices were hypothetical.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:27:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick  moved  to slide  17  titled  "RIK  Pricing                                                                    
Formula   The  chart contained  a formula  representation of                                                                    
the RIK pricing calculation resulting in the Royalty In-                                                                        
Kind price explained in prior  slides. He recounted that the                                                                    
department used  the Reuters and Platts  pricing agencies to                                                                    
determine the  market indices for  the west coast  price. He                                                                    
noted   that   the   tariff   allowance   was   the   actual                                                                    
transportation  cost  that  also had  two  other  components                                                                    
associated  with   it.  The  first  was   the  Quality  Bank                                                                    
adjustment that  reflected the value  of the  field specific                                                                    
oil  stream  in  Trans-Alaska Pipeline  System  (TAPS).  The                                                                    
other was  the Line  Loss, which was  the small  variance in                                                                    
the  metered  volumes  at  Pump Station  1  and  the  Valdez                                                                    
Terminal. It was  a small diminishment of a  barrel when two                                                                    
crude   streams  were   combined  with   different  chemical                                                                    
conditions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:28:25 PM                                                                                                                    
Mr. Fitzpatrick highlighted slide  18 titled "Contract Terms                                                                    
For Marathon Using the DOR Location Differential."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Proposed RIK  differential = DOR  Location Differential                                                                    
     minus 24 cents/bbl.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •   Difference  between   marine   deduction  and   RIK                                                                    
     differential largely drives RIK premium over RIV                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • New  methodology allows for dynamic  RIK differential                                                                    
     deduction over contract term                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • DNR estimates $1.08/bbl. RIK premium                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •  This  would  result in  approximately  $4.9  million                                                                    
     incremental revenue  per year of the  contract over RIV                                                                    
     if  Marathon  purchases  an average  of  12.5  thousand                                                                    
     barrels of oil per day (mbopd).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick  elucidated  that the  graph  depicted  the                                                                    
marine  deduction  and the  RIK  differential  from 2007  to                                                                    
2024.  The information  conveyed  how the  new pricing  term                                                                    
would   have  performed   relative   to   the  fixed   price                                                                    
differentials.  He   pointed  out   that  the   two  tracked                                                                    
relatively closely with slight  differences depending on the                                                                    
year.  The purpose  of moving  to the  market index  pricing                                                                    
formula was  not attempting to  gain an  additional premium,                                                                    
which was built into its  current contracts. The main reason                                                                    
for the  new mechanism  was to  reduce uncertainty  over the                                                                    
term  of  the  contract  and  to lock  in  the  premium.  He                                                                    
characterized it as a risk mitigation measure.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:30:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  moved to slide  19 titled  "Maximum Benefit                                                                    
to Alaskans                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     As  required  by  AS  38.05.183(e),  the  Marathon  RIK                                                                    
     contract maximizes the benefits to the State:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • The  sale results  in royalty  premiums to  the State                                                                    
     compared to the average RIV values                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Incremental  increase in  State revenue  by $4  to $6                                                                    
     million per year                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • In-state refining supports Alaskan jobs                                                                                  
     •  Marathon provides  220  full-time  positions at  its                                                                    
     Nikiski refinery,  over 60 contracted positions  and 40                                                                    
     positions at Anchorage and North Pole terminals                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •  Producing refined  products  in  Alaska reduces  the                                                                    
     costs to Alaskans                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       Fuel security is economic security                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Marathon's Kenai refinery  produces 55,000 barrels of                                                                    
     refined product per day                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •  30  percent is  jet  fuel  supplied to  Ted  Stevens                                                                    
     Anchorage  International  Airport     nearly  half  the                                                                    
     airport's demand                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   • 27 percent is gasoline, which is consumed in state                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • 43 percent is a  combination of liquid petroleum gas,                                                                    
     fuel oil, asphalt and other products                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked for a review of the fiscal note.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:32:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  reported that  the published  Department of                                                                    
Natural  Resources zero  fiscal note  (FN1(DNR) had  no cost                                                                    
for the department. The revenue  was indeterminate for three                                                                    
years  due to  the variability  in the  amount up  to 15,000                                                                    
bbl. per  day. However, the department  did estimate between                                                                    
$4,000,000 and $6,000,000 in additional revenue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:32:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CASEY  SULLIVAN,  GOVERNMENT  AND  PUBLIC  AFFAIRS  MANAGER,                                                                    
MARATHON   PETROLEUM,    ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
supported the  bill. He believed that  the contract provided                                                                    
stability,   availably,  and   flexibility  for   the  Kenai                                                                    
refinery. He shared that the  Kenai facility had been one of                                                                    
the longest  operating refineries  in the state,  opening in                                                                    
1969.  The  plant was  capable  of  producing up  to  69,000                                                                    
barrels  per day  and was  focused on  value added  products                                                                    
like   propane,  diesel,   and  asphalt.   They  distributed                                                                    
products statewide  and employed  many Alaskans.  He relayed                                                                    
that Marathon  was committed  to reliably  producing quality                                                                    
fuels in  Alaska for  the long-term.  He concluded  that the                                                                    
contract  would  provide a  positive  shared  value for  all                                                                    
Alaskans and asked for members' support of HB 194.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster thanked Mr. Sullivan.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:35:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted the bill did  not seem controversial.                                                                    
He wondered if there was an interest in moving the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  MOVED  to   REPORT  HB  194  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB 194  was REPORTED out  of committee with eight  "do pass"                                                                    
recommendations   and   with    one   previously   published                                                                    
indeterminate fiscal note: FN1 (DNR).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:37:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster reviewed  the  schedule  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 194 DNR Final Best Int Finding Marathon RIK 4-14-25.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
HB 194 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
HB194 Alaska Royalty Board Legislative Report_Marathon 2025.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
HB194 Alaska Royalty Board Resolution 2025-1.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
HB194 AOGA Letter of support Marathon Petro Royalty 04.15.25 HRES.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
HB194 DNR Briefing Paper 4-15-25.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
HB194 DNR Presentation to HFIN 5-1-2025.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
HB194 Transmittal Letter.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 194
SB 57 HCS1 WorkDraft v. U 043025.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 HCS Comparison of 34-GS1460_T and 34-GS1460_U.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 HCS1T No MH ProjectDetailByAgency 4-30-25 (001).pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 HCS1T No MH Statewide Totals 4-30-25.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 SenateT to HCS1T No MH ProjectCompareByAgency 4-30-25.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 2025.5.1 HCS v. U. Summary of Changes.pdf HFIN 5/1/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 57