Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120
05/15/2021 10:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS
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| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| HB198 | |
| HB187 | |
| HB177 | |
| SB32 | |
| SB71 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| + | TELECONFERENCED | ||
| *+ | HB 198 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 177 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | SB 32 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 149 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | SB 71 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 187 | TELECONFERENCED | |
HB 187-STATE AGENCY PUBLICATIONS
10:27:56 AM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS announced that the next order of business
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 187, "An Act relating to the elimination
or modification of state agency publications that are outdated,
duplicative, or excessive or that could be improved or
consolidated with other publications or exclusively delivered
electronically; and providing for an effective date." [Before
the committee, adopted as a working document on 5/6/21, was the
proposed committee substitute (CS) for HB 187, Version 32-
LS0779\G, Wallace, 5/5/21 ("Version G").]
10:28:20 AM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS opened public testimony on HB 187. After
ascertaining there was no one who wished to testify, he closed
public testimony.
10:29:10 AM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Amendment 1 to HB 187,
Version G, labeled 32-LS0779\G.1, Wallace, 5/14/21, which read
as follows:
Page 1, line 14:
Delete "(a)"
Page 2, line 8:
Delete "; and"
Insert "."
Page 2, lines 9 - 18:
Delete all material.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN, prime sponsor, objected for the purpose
of discussion.
10:29:27 AM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS explained that Amendment 1 addresses
language in Section 2, to eliminate duplicative reports every
even-numbered year by the governor. He noted that statute books
had been determined to be [obsolete] and a statute had been
passed for their destruction, and a report of that action could
be redundant.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN stated that lines 918 would initiate the
new process and directs the submission of a list and
characterizes that requirement as being based on available
information and not redundant. He suggested that the list would
provide transparency for which [publications] to be deleted and
would summarize a list for lawmakers to consider which reports
may already be in existence.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS allowed that the language in Amendment 1
may be overly inclusive and directed attention to lines 1418
and referenced the report due each October 31, which he
characterized as not redundant. He questioned the additional
process of requiring a percentage report equal to 100 percent of
the publications that would be requested to be deleted by the
governor's office by means of legislation.
10:34:11 AM
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN answered that the proposed system is not
a static one. He explained that the committee substitute
prescribes a two-year cycle which would align with legislative
sessions. He offered that the intent of the bill was to manage
publications under changing legislative priorities and other
government functions in a sustainable manner.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS asked what could negatively affect the
process should it occur every two years.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN answered that the bill would begin a
continuous improvement culture.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS restated his question regarding the two-
year cycle and referred to subsections 2 and 3.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN stated that the cycle had been set to
encourage goal setting and welcomed the committee's feedback.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS offered that the process was not an
entirely executive function and, should the executive branch
offer a list of publications to be deleted subject to
legislative approval, he questioned a two-year caveat on the
process.
10:38:25 AM
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE referred to page 1, line 7, and asked
whether the legislature could require a governor to submit
legislation rather than a report.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN stated his understanding after consulting
the legal department that it could and expressed his hope that
if it were not permissible, the legal team would have raised an
issue with the proposed language.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS postulated that the administration may be
"on board" with the proposed legislation and having such a
requirement might not be controversial.
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN, in response to Representative Vance,
noted that the legislature compels the executive branch to
perform many functions including reports. He rhetorically asked
what the consequence would be should an executive not fulfil any
legislative mandate, up to and including a lawsuit. He
postulated that each administration is concerned with cost
savings.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS offered that he perceived a sentiment of
support for the proposed process.
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked who the legislature would compel to
produce the proposed reports and stated that she would find
value in the proposed process.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS offered that it was the legislature's role
to compel the executive branch by way of statute.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN added that there would occur more
discussions regarding waste reduction and process evaluation.
He acknowledged that there exists some tension regarding the
[House] Finance Committee's review of the bill and offered that
it would compel compromise on process improvement.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS invited a representative from the Office of
Management & Budget (OMB) to offer remarks.
10:45:54 AM
CAROLINE SCHULTZ, Policy Analyst, Office of Management & Budget,
Office of the Governor, shared that OMB staff had participated
in discussions with the bill sponsor to determine how the
proposed legislation could be integrated into the state's budget
process, and she offered the position that the bill would result
in reduction of waste. She posed the same question as to
whether the legislature could compel the executive office to
submit a bill and stated that the requirement had strengthened
the bill.
10:47:28 AM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN questioned the validity of the fiscal note
being zero and asked whether OMB agreed that there would be zero
fiscal impact, should HB 187 pass.
MS. SCHULTZ related that OMB currently collects immense amounts
of information from state agencies during the annual budget
process. She said that adding this requirement would result in
only a marginally small cost. She qualified her answer that
there could occur some initial cost to transition to include the
new requirement, but that a review of publications would likely
result in cost savings overall.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN shared his background as a career quality
manager and stated that his most rewarding experience was
improved happiness in the workplace by means of process
improvement. He suggested that workers would be willing to
nominate areas in which the potential for waste reduction exist.
He suggested that the proposed bill would codify such process
improvement.
10:51:54 AM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Conceptual Amendment 1 to
Amendment 1, such that line 8 deletes line 9, and substitutes
line 14 [in its place] and lines 14-18 would be deleted in the
underlying bill rather than lines 918.
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN objected for discussion and recommended
further modification such that lines 4-6 of the amendment should
be deleted and explained that the word "and" should remain so
that the following paragraph would remain.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS [moved to withdraw] Conceptual Amendment 1
to Amendment 1 to HB 187, Version G. [There being no objection,
it was so ordered.]
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Conceptual Amendment 2 to
Amendment 1 to HB 187, Version G, such that lines 4-6 be deleted
and line 8; delete "lines 918" and replace with "lines 1418."
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 2 to Amendment 1
was adopted.
10:54:46 AM
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN removed his objection to Amendment 1, as
amended. There being no further objection, Amendment 1, as
amended, was adopted.
10:55:06 AM
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN moved to adopt Amendment 2 to HB 187,
Version G, as amended, labeled 32-LS0779\G.2, Wallace, 5/14/21,
which read as follows:
Page 2, following line 18:
Insert a new subsection to read:
"(c) In this section, "state agency" means a
department, institution, board, commission, division,
authority, public corporation, or other administrative
unit of the executive branch, including the University
of Alaska and the Alaska Railroad Corporation."
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS objected.
10:55:13 AM
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN explained that the amendment would
designate the correct body of publications which exists within
the executive branch only.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS asked whether the University of Alaska or
Alaska Railroad would be some of the instrumentalities of the
state as referenced.
MS. SCHULTZ answered that all the instrumentalities listed with
the exception of the Alaska Railroad were involved in the annual
budget process and suggested removing the Alaska Railroad.
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked the rationale for not also removing
the university.
MS. SCHULTZ answered that the university is included in the
executive budget act process and allowed that the determination
would be one of policy.
10:57:42 AM
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS moved to adopt Conceptual Amendment 1 to
Amendment 2, such that it would delete "and the Alaska Railroad
Corporation" among lines 5-6 and add "and" and "including" on
line 5 to conform the language. He added that Legislative Legal
Services would be authorized to make any technical or conforming
changes. There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 1 to
Amendment 2 was adopted.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS removed his objection to Amendment 2, as
amended. There being no further objection, Amendment 2, as
amended, was adopted.
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN complimented the committee's work and
expressed that he had been pleased to advance a process
improvement bill.
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS stated his intent to offer to co-sponsor HB
187, Version G, as amended.
10:59:44 AM
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN moved to report CSHB 187, Version 32-
LS0779\G, Wallace, 5/5/21, as amended, out of committee with
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
There being no objection, CSHB 187(STA) was reported out of the
House State Affairs Standing Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 198 Letter of Support - Koponen 5.13.21.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
HB 198 |
| HB 177 Amendment A.1.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
HB 177 |
| HB 177 Research Legal Opinion 05.05.2020.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
HB 177 |
| HB 177 Research Legal Opinon 08.26.2020.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
HB 177 |
| SB 71 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
SB 71 |
| SB 71 Sectional Analysis.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
SB 71 |
| SB 71 Sample Plates Plate Demand.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
SB 71 |
| SB 71 ArtsCouncil_Support-Letter_KodiakArts_08March2021.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
SB 71 |
| SB 71 Version B.PDF |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
SB 71 |
| SB 71 Public Testimony Rogers.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
SB 71 |
| SB 71 DMV License Plate Options.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
SB 71 |
| HB 187 Amendment G.1 - Kreiss-Tomkins.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
HB 187 |
| HB 187 Amendment G.2 - Kaufman.pdf |
HSTA 5/15/2021 10:00:00 AM |
HB 187 |