Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

04/17/2023 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 3:30 PM --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 21 SCHOOL/UNIVERSITY EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSUR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <3 Minute Time Limit> --
+= HB 149 NURSING: LICENSURE; MULTISTATE COMPACT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 88 WAREHOUSE WORK QUOTA INFORMATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 88(L&C) Out of Committee
         HB 149-NURSING: LICENSURE; MULTISTATE COMPACT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:27:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 149, "An Act  relating to the licensure of nursing                                                               
professionals; relating to a  multistate nurse licensure compact;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:27:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANETTE  SCHLOEDER, DNP,  RNC-OB,  C-EFM,  C-ONQS, Chair,  Alaska                                                               
Board of Nursing, stated that she  has been a registered nurse in                                                               
Alaska for 28  years and a member of the  Alaska Board of Nursing                                                               
for 4 years.  She explained  that the board is comprised of seven                                                               
members, and its mission is to  promote the health of Alaskans by                                                               
making  licensing   decisions,  enforcing  ethics,   and  setting                                                               
licensing requirements.  After hearing  stories of nurses needing                                                               
several different licenses to practice  in other states, she said                                                               
that  since 2017  the  board has  supported  joining the  Nursing                                                               
Licensure Compact  (NLC).   She stated that  the Alaska  Board of                                                               
Nursing has reviewed the requirements  and qualifications to earn                                                               
a  license under  the NLC,  and  she expressed  the opinion  that                                                               
joining the NLC  would not have adverse effects  on Alaskans, nor                                                               
would it  reduce state sovereignty.   She continued  that joining                                                               
the NLC would  be a significant step toward  reducing the nursing                                                               
shortage.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:32:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked whether  it was true that individuals                                                               
were  only nominated  to  the  Alaska Board  of  Nursing if  they                                                               
supported the NLC.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHLOEDER  responded that  she  was  not asked  whether  she                                                               
supported  the NLC  when  she was  appointed to  the  board.   In                                                               
response   to  a   follow-up   question,  concerning   continuing                                                               
education  requirements,  she  stated that  there  are  different                                                               
levels  of   continuing  education  and  different   states  have                                                               
different  requirements, and  she  cannot  compare the  different                                                               
continuing  education requirements.    She added  that the  board                                                               
addresses licensure, which  is based on competency.   In response                                                               
to a follow-up question, she  expressed uncertainty about how NLC                                                               
would affect licensure costs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:36:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN  ROBB, Director,  Division  of  Corporations Business  and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                               
Economic Development,  said that  there are  a handful  of states                                                               
without further education requirements,  and the National Council                                                               
of State  Boards of  Nursing (NCSBN)  would have  further insight                                                               
into these requirements.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:37:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMIE   PERREAULT,  Regional   Liaison,  Defense-State   Liaison                                                               
Office,  U.S.  Department  of  Defense  (DoD),  stated  that  DoD                                                               
supports  any legislation  which  helps military  families.   She                                                               
stated that  Alaska has the  highest per capita rate  of military                                                               
families, and many include spouses  who work in a field requiring                                                               
licensure, with  healthcare being  the largest  group.   She said                                                               
that DoD supports HB 149, as  the NLC will allow military spouses                                                               
to  begin  working,  shortening  the  possible  long  periods  of                                                               
unemployment.  She  added that Alaska is one of  only five states                                                               
that  is  not   a  member  of  any  licensure   compact  for  any                                                               
occupation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:40:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked whether  a bill passed  the previous                                                               
year  to  expedite  licensure  for   military  spouses  has  been                                                               
helpful.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERRAULT  answered  in  the affirmative.    She  added  that                                                               
licensure compacts are more effective  because they eliminate the                                                               
need for an additional licensure process in any form.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:41:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  asked whether  there are  any occupations                                                               
where DoD does not support compacting or has no position.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PERREAULT  answered that there are  15 different occupational                                                               
licensure compacts, of which the  DoD supports 14.  She continued                                                               
that  DoD has  no position  on the  Interstate Medical  Licensure                                                               
Compact,  and this  is  because  of the  low  number of  military                                                               
spouses who would benefit.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:42:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT   asked  whether  the  compact   has  been                                                               
successful in other states.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERREAULT  answered in  the  affirmative.   She  added  that                                                               
military  spouses  preparing to  be  stationed  in a  non-compact                                                               
state  would  face an  additional  barrier.    In response  to  a                                                               
follow-up question, she stated  that licensure compacting reduces                                                               
costs  for  military  families, and  this  includes  lost  income                                                               
waiting for the licensing process.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:45:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked whether it  was true NCSBN wrote in a                                                               
letter to  the Nevada  Legislature that NLC  would not  solve the                                                               
nursing shortage.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MOLLYMAEVE LUSK,  Associate, National Council of  State Boards of                                                               
Nursing,  answered that  the NLC  is only  one tool  among others                                                               
that can be used  to help reduce the shortage.   In response to a                                                               
follow-up question,  she said  that it  is not a  goal of  NLC to                                                               
support or facilitate  "union busting."  She added that  NLC is a                                                               
benefit for individual nurses.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked whether  NCSBN would be supportive of                                                               
adding antiunion busting language to the compact.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. LUSK answered that this would require review.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS commented  that there  was an  incident in                                                               
Minnesota in which a nursing union was busted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:48:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that HB 149 was held over.                                                                               

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Fiscal Note HB149.pdf HL&C 4/17/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 149