Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

04/20/2021 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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Heard & Held
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               HB 145-EXPAND PHARMACIST AUTHORITY                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:25:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  announced that  the  next  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  145, "An Act  relating to the  Board of                                                               
Pharmacy;   relating  to   health  care   services  provided   by                                                               
pharmacists  and  pharmacy  technicians;   and  relating  to  the                                                               
practice of pharmacy."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:25:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SNYDER  presented  HB  145,  as  prime  sponsor.    She                                                               
explained that  the intent  of HB  145 is  to increase  access to                                                               
care and to  protect pharmacists and ensure  that pharmacists can                                                               
be reimbursed for  providing services that they  are permitted to                                                               
provide.   She went on to  read from the Sponsor  Statement [hard                                                               
copies  included in  committee  packets], which  read as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Passage   of   House    Bill   145,   "The   Pharmacist                                                                    
     Mobilization  Act,"   increases  access  to   care  and                                                                    
     ensures  Alaska's   pharmacists  are   reimbursed  when                                                                    
     providing services.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     I  am  introducing it  at  the  request of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Pharmacists Association in  partnership with the Alaska                                                                    
     Board of  Pharmacy and  the University  of Alaska/Idaho                                                                    
     State Doctor of Pharmacy Program.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  coronavirus pandemic  has  shown that  pharmacists                                                                    
     can  engage  at  an  elevated  level  to  help  deliver                                                                    
     necessary healthcare to  all Alaskans. Pharmacists have                                                                    
     provided    COVID-19    testing,   vaccinations,    and                                                                    
     telehealth  visits,  and  have helped  patients  manage                                                                    
     chronic  health  conditions.   This  bill  will  update                                                                    
     outdated statute so  pharmacists can continue providing                                                                    
     these services.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     HB  145   defines  the   patient  care   services  that                                                                    
     pharmacists    and   pharmacy    support   staff    can                                                                    
     independently  provide,  allows pharmacist  technicians                                                                    
     to   administer   vaccines   when  under   the   direct                                                                    
     supervision  of a  licensed  pharmacists, and  empowers                                                                    
     the Board of Pharmacy  to regulate pharmacists, student                                                                    
     pharmacists,  and pharmacy  support  staff who  provide                                                                    
     these services.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Furthermore,  the  bill  updates the  current  provider                                                                    
     anti-discrimination   statute   to  support   insurance                                                                    
     coverage of  these patient care services  when provided                                                                    
     by a pharmacist. Currently, pharmacists  are one of the                                                                    
     only  healthcare  professionals   not  listed  in  this                                                                    
     statute.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     HB 145 largely updates  outdated statutes to align with                                                                    
     current  practices. Its  passage  benefits Alaskans  by                                                                    
     increasing  healthcare  access  during  and  after  the                                                                    
     pandemic.   Please    support   this    common   sense,                                                                    
     housekeeping bill that will help your local, patient-                                                                      
     oriented  pharmacies  continue   to  provide  essential                                                                    
     services.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:29:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALLIANA  SALANGUIT,  Staff,  Representative  Liz  Snyder,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, provided  the sectional analysis of  HB 145 on                                                               
behalf of  Representative Snyder, prime sponsor.   She summarized                                                               
the  Sectional  Analysis  [hard   copies  provided  in  committee                                                               
packets], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  1: Adds  language to  AS 08.80.030(b)  Powers and                                                                    
     Duties of  the Board,  statute that outlines  the Board                                                                    
     of  Pharmacy's   powers,  that  allows  the   Board  of                                                                    
     Pharmacy  to adopt  rules to  regulate the  independent                                                                    
     monitoring of  drug therapy and  independent pharmacist                                                                    
     prescribing of vaccines and naloxone.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  2:   Adds  a  new  subsection   to  AS  08.80.045                                                                    
     Nonprescription  Drugs  that  aligns statute  with  the                                                                    
     current  practice  of   pharmacists  recommending  non-                                                                    
     prescription  medications  and   devices  for  treating                                                                    
     minor and self-limited conditions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  3:  Amends  AS   08.80.155  Emergency  Permit  to                                                                    
     increase the  Board of Pharmacy's flexibility  to grant                                                                    
     emergency licenses  for all  relevant licenses  used in                                                                    
     pharmacies.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  4:  Amends   AS  08.80.168(a)  Administration  of                                                                    
     Vaccines  and Related  Emergency Medications  by adding                                                                    
     "prescribe"   to    existing   vaccine   administration                                                                    
     statute.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 5: Amends AS  08.80.168(b) by replacing "dispense"                                                                    
     with   "prescribe  and   administer"   in  regards   to                                                                    
     administering an opioid overdose drug.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  6: Adds  a new  subsection to  AS 08.80.168  that                                                                    
     allows a  pharmacy technician  to administer  a vaccine                                                                    
     or related  emergency medication but only  if they have                                                                    
     been authorized by  the Board of Pharmacy to  do so AND                                                                    
     if they are under the  direct supervision of a licensed                                                                    
     pharmacist who  meets the requirements in  AS 08.80.168                                                                    
     (a).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 7:  Adds language to AS  08.80.297(a) Prescription                                                                    
     Prices Available to Consumer  that allows personnel who                                                                    
     are not  licensed pharmacists to  disclose the  cost of                                                                    
     filling a  prescription when  directed by  a pharmacist                                                                    
     working at the same institution.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 8: Amends AS  08.080 Pharmacists and Pharmacies by                                                                    
     adding a  new section, AS 08.80.337  Other Patient Care                                                                    
     Services,  that:  ?  Allows  a  pharmacist  to  provide                                                                    
     patient care  services for a disease  or condition with                                                                    
     an existing diagnosis under an  agreement made with and                                                                    
     approved  by  a  practitioner  ?  Limits  patient  care                                                                    
     services  that pharmacists  can provide  to those  that                                                                    
     are  minor,   selflimiting,  and  have   a  CLIA-waived                                                                    
     laboratory test which  guides clinical decision making.                                                                    
     ?  Provides  language  that allows  pharmacists  to  be                                                                    
     reimbursed for  providing these services  04/07/21 Sec.                                                                    
     9: Amends AS 08.80.480  Definitions by removing "dosage                                                                    
     form"  as a  definition of  "equivalent drug  product".                                                                    
     This allows pharmacists  to make minor, non-therapeutic                                                                    
     changes to  prescriptions using clinical  judgement and                                                                    
     expertise without contacting  the prescriber for verbal                                                                    
     or written  approval. This does not  allow a pharmacist                                                                    
     to  substitute  a  dosage form  that  would  negatively                                                                    
     impact    patient    outcomes,    safety,    or    cost                                                                    
     effectiveness.  Examples  of appropriate  substitutions                                                                    
     under this section include changing  from a tablet form                                                                    
     of medication to a capsule  form of the same medication                                                                    
     and strength.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.   10:   Amends    AS   08.80.480(30)   by   adding                                                                    
     "dispensing"  and  "independent   prescribing"  to  the                                                                    
     definition of the "Practice of  Pharmacy" to align with                                                                    
     the changes  made in  Section 4 &  5 (AS  08.80.168) of                                                                    
     this  bill.  These  additions better  represent  actual                                                                    
     provision of naloxone and vaccine by pharmacists.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 11:  Amends AS 21.36.090(d)  Unfair Discrimination                                                                    
     to  include  "pharmacists"  as  protected  health  care                                                                    
     providers in the  provider anti-discrimination statute.                                                                    
     This  aligns the  state  statute  with federal  statute                                                                    
     (CFR   438.12)   and   afford  pharmacists   the   same                                                                    
     protection  as  all  other  healthcare  providers  when                                                                    
     engaging  health plans  for  covered  services such  as                                                                    
     ordering   laboratory  tests,   point-of-care  testing,                                                                    
     vaccine  prescribing  and administration,  preventative                                                                    
     health    services,   managing    minor   self-limiting                                                                    
     conditions, and participating  in collaborative disease                                                                    
     state management.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:33:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GRETCHEN   GLASPY,   Pharm.D.,  President,   Alaska   Pharmacists                                                               
Association, testified in support of  HB 145.  She explained that                                                               
the  Alaska Pharmacists  Association  (APA)  represents over  200                                                               
pharmacists,  pharmacy   technicians,  and   student  pharmacists                                                               
statewide.   She said that she  earned her Doctor of  Pharmacy in                                                               
2007 and has  been a practicing pharmacist in  Alaska since 2014.                                                               
Currently, she  works as the  Clinical Informatics  Pharmacist at                                                               
Bartlett Regional Hospital in Juneau,  Alaska, which requires her                                                               
to merge information technology  with clinical pharmacy practice.                                                               
She  continued  that  HB 145  came  about  through  collaboration                                                               
between the  APA, the  Board of Pharmacy,  and the  University of                                                               
Alaska  Anchorage/Idaho State  Doctor of  Pharmacy Program.   The                                                               
Board  of Pharmacy  began reviewing  statutes at  the request  of                                                               
State  of Alaska  Governor Mike  Dunleavy; however,  the COVID-19                                                               
pandemic highlighted  the ways in  which the statutes are  out of                                                               
date in regard to pharmacy practice.   She continued that it also                                                               
seeks  to  add  pharmacists to  the  Provider  Antidiscrimination                                                               
Statute,  as  pharmacists  are  one of  the  only  providers  not                                                               
currently  listed.    She  concluded  that  HB  145  would  allow                                                               
pharmacists to  engage at  a much higher  level, both  during and                                                               
after COVID-19.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:35:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUSTIN  RUFFRIDGE,   Pharm.D.,  Board  Member,  State   Board  of                                                               
Pharmacy, testified in  support of HB 145.  He  explained that he                                                               
is a  pharmacist in Alaska and  owner of a few  pharmacies around                                                               
the state.   He shared  that, from  the perspective of  the State                                                               
Board of Pharmacy,  HB 145 is an imperative  piece of legislation                                                               
in  order to  properly  regulate the  pharmacy  profession.   The                                                               
expanded authority  of the  board that the  bill proposes  is not                                                               
currently  represented well  by the  current statute,  he opined,                                                               
and said that the board  was told that statutory adjustments must                                                               
be made in order to regulate  certain professions.  He added that                                                               
the  board considers  the proposed  bill to  be a  "housekeeping"                                                               
bill and that there is enough support for it to pass.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:37:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  WADSWORTH testified  in support  of HB  145 and  added that,                                                               
although he is an educator  at the University of Alaska Anchorage                                                               
(UAA), the  views are his  own and do not  reflect UAA.   He said                                                               
that he  is a practicing pharmacist  of 19 years and  an educator                                                               
of  pharmacy students.   He  explained  that the  first class  of                                                               
pharmacy students in  the UAA system were graduated  in 2020, and                                                               
another  class will  graduate  in  a few  weeks  [in  2021].   He                                                               
explained   that   pharmacists  receive   professional   graduate                                                               
training of  4 years, with  at least 2,000 hours  of experiential                                                               
training,  and  most  go  on  to  begin  post-graduate  residency                                                               
programs,  which  offer additional  training.    Beyond that,  he                                                               
continued,  pharmacists can  become  board  certified in  various                                                               
fields, such  as primary care and  pediatrics.  Over half  of all                                                               
practicing  pharmacists  now  practice outside  of  the  pharmacy                                                               
community,  he  said,  and  the  statutes  do  not  reflect  this                                                               
reality.   Many  pharmacists work  in primary  care in  tribal or                                                               
veteran health  care in capacities  that have nothing to  do with                                                               
dispensing  medications, but  instead  focus  on general  health,                                                               
wellness,  and medication  management.   He expressed  that these                                                               
pharmacists are filling  a vital need in  Alaska, and pharmacists                                                               
can be a solution to healthcare shortages.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:40:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY  PAUL,  Pharm.D.,  Faculty  Clinical  Pharmacist,  Providence                                                               
Family  Medicine Center,  testified  in support  of  HB 145.  She                                                               
shared  that  Providence  Family  Medicine  Center  (PFMC)  is  a                                                               
patient-centered  medical  home  and  the  only  family  medicine                                                               
residency in  the state of  Alaska.   She said that  her practice                                                               
includes 36  resident positions  and about  30 faculty  and staff                                                               
positions, and  the center services  over 10,000 Alaskans  in the                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska  area.    The number  one  resource  to  treat                                                               
patients is medications, she opined,  however most medical school                                                               
graduates  receive only  about a  semester  of pharmacology,  yet                                                               
these graduates are expected to  appropriately choose and utilize                                                               
the most  optimal medication  therapy for patients.   Due  to her                                                               
position, she is able to  work alongside physicians in Alaska and                                                               
help  determine the  most  appropriate  medication for  patients.                                                               
She  noted that  primary care  physicians, partially  due to  the                                                               
time  restraints  at  play,  have  to  address  the  "what"  when                                                               
diagnosing  a patient,  but are  not able  to address  the "why."                                                               
She  shared that  she is  able to  fill this  void and  meet with                                                               
patients, educate patients about  their diseases, and offer ideas                                                               
for  lifestyle changes,  so that  patients can  receive the  most                                                               
benefit with the least side effects.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PAUL offered  an example  of this  in which  she met  with a                                                               
patient who  had been diagnosed  with diabetes for over  20 years                                                               
and had  never been taught  to use  an insulin pen  at mealtimes.                                                               
She helped this  patient learn how to use the  device and she was                                                               
also able to  help this patient obtain a glucose  monitor so that                                                               
the patient could have more data  on appropriate doses.  She also                                                               
spoke  to  this  patient  about quitting  smoking,  and  together                                                               
developed  a  plan  to  help   the  patient  quit.    Later,  she                                                               
continued, this  patient sent  her a  message expressing  how she                                                               
wished every clinic  had "a pharmacist like you."   She concluded                                                               
with  the  hope  that  it  is  obvious  that  utilizing  clinical                                                               
pharmacists  to  optimize  patient  care  like  this  allows  for                                                               
providers to  meet with  patients about  acute needs,  and allows                                                               
for patient  and provider satisfaction.   Unfortunately,  many of                                                               
these services  are not  reimbursed by  insurance due  to current                                                               
regulations,  despite  the  fact   that  the  same  services  are                                                               
reimbursed when provided by a  different type of clinician.  This                                                               
makes  these  kinds of  services  unsustainable  in primary  care                                                               
facilities, she expressed, but the  patients who have experienced                                                               
services  provided   by  a  pharmacist  in   the  private  sector                                                               
understand the benefits.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  asked Mr.  Wadsworth about a  letter from                                                               
Sara  Chambers,  Division  Director of  Department  of  Commerce,                                                               
Community, & Economic Development  (DCCED) [hard copy included in                                                               
the committee  packet].   He quoted  line 3,  paragraph 3  of the                                                               
letter, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Since this statute  specifically calls out vaccinations                                                                    
     and  related  emergency   medications,  it  effectively                                                                    
     prohibits  pharmacists   from  independently  rendering                                                                    
     other patient care services.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY asked whether  Mr. Wadsworth could address                                                               
this statement about the concern of professional licensing.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADSWORTH answered  that that opinion came about  as a result                                                               
of an  inquiry by the  Board of  Pharmacy from the  Department of                                                               
Law as the board attempted  to promulgate some regulations.  What                                                               
the letter  effectively states and  the reason for  including it,                                                               
he  continued,  is  that  HB  145  would  not  expand  pharmacist                                                               
prescriptive authority.  The three  items listed for prescriptive                                                               
authority stand at vaccines, Naloxone,  and situations that exist                                                               
under the pharmacist collaborative  agreement.  He explained that                                                               
the collaborative agreement allows  for pharmacists to enter into                                                               
a  practice  in  collaboration  with a  primary  provider,  which                                                               
allows  the pharmacists  to  write  prescriptions for  treatment,                                                               
like  the  example  Dr.  Paul shared  earlier  in  the  committee                                                               
meeting.    He  said  that   model  of  interpreting  statute  or                                                               
regulation   essentially   says   that,  if   those   items   are                                                               
specifically stated,  then every other prescriptive  authority is                                                               
excluded from the statute.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER  offered clarification that the  letter from Sara                                                               
Chambers  was  received by  the  committee  in response  to  some                                                               
questions  that arose  in  a House  Labor  and Commerce  Standing                                                               
Committee  meeting   on  April  12,   2021.    She   shared  that                                                               
Representative Kaufman  had expressed  concern that HB  145 would                                                               
"open the barn door," and the  letter was intended to assuage his                                                               
fears.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:51:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARA   CHAMBERS,  Director,   Commercial  Business   Professional                                                               
Licensing (CBPL),  Department of  Commerce, Community  & Economic                                                               
Development, explained  that the  question refers to  current law                                                               
and  the  proposed legislation  and  reiterated  that it  was  in                                                               
response  to  the  earlier  House  Labor  and  Commerce  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting.   She asked  for further clarification  on the                                                               
type  of   additional  information  Representative   McCarty  was                                                               
seeking.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY responded  that he  is curious  about the                                                               
proposition  in the  bill  that would  expand  the services  that                                                               
pharmacists  would  be  able  to administer,  which  he  said  he                                                               
understands was  crafted with legal  counsel.   Alternatively, he                                                               
said  that Ms.  Chambers'  letter says  that  according to  legal                                                               
counsel, pharmacists  cannot practice  beyond the  three criteria                                                               
mentioned previously.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER  responded that there is  specific language about                                                               
Naloxone  and vaccinations  in HB  145.   The remaining  services                                                               
mentioned in  the bill,  she continued,  are consistent  with the                                                               
practice of  pharmacy as it  is in its  current state.   The bill                                                               
works  to  provide  some clarification  and  details  around  the                                                               
practice  of pharmacy  so that  the  board is  then empowered  to                                                               
regulate the field, she added.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHAMBERS  offered clarification  that, because  this question                                                               
was  raised in  a  different committee,  the  letter address  the                                                               
state  of the  current law  and  does not  address HB  145.   The                                                               
current  law   states  that  there   are  restrictions   to  what                                                               
pharmacists   can   do   because   vaccinations   and   emergency                                                               
medications are  specifically stated.   The  question was  not an                                                               
interpretation of the  bill, and she presumed that  this is where                                                               
the confusion lies.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:54:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PRAX   offered   his  understanding   that   the                                                               
assumption is  that pharmacists can't  "do anything"  until given                                                               
permission and  told that  the proper  regulations are  in place.                                                               
He  asked whether  it's true  that pharmacists  need to  be given                                                               
permission to do something beyond the normal scope of practice.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADSWORTH  responded that  when one  reads the  Pharmacy Act,                                                               
which is  what HB 145  seeks to amend,  it's clear that  there is                                                               
already a  definition about pharmaceutical care  and patient care                                                               
services.     There  needs  to   be  a   differentiation  between                                                               
medication  and prescriptive  authority, he  continued, as  there                                                               
are many providers  that offer patient care services  that do not                                                               
prescribe medicine, such as social  workers.  Similarly, he said,                                                               
pharmacists provide patient care  services but do not necessarily                                                               
prescribe  medication.   He explained  that Dr.  Paul is  already                                                               
performing  the actions  that are  proposed  in HB  145, but  the                                                               
intended consequence of  the bill is to expand  the definition of                                                               
pharmaceutical  care  and  bring  clarity to  the  definition  of                                                               
"patient care services," which are  the services that pharmacists                                                               
can do independently  that do not result in  a prescription, such                                                               
as smoking cessation  or diabetes education.  He  said that these                                                               
services  are already  in statute,  but are  not delineated  with                                                               
enough  clarity,  which  is  what  brings  about  the  "Negative-                                                               
Implication  Canon"  indicated  in  Ms.  Chambers'  letter.    He                                                               
explained  that clarity  is sought  after so  that the  board can                                                               
promulgate and regulate these issues.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUFFRIDGE  added that  the board speaks  the easiest  on this                                                               
issue since  that is where the  "Negative-Implication Canon" term                                                               
first originated.   The request for the letter to  be included in                                                               
the  packet  of  information  is  to ensure  that  there  are  no                                                               
questions as  to what pharmacists can  and should be able  to do,                                                               
he said.  Pharmacists are not  seeking to expand the authority to                                                               
prescribe medications;  there is already  a means by which  to do                                                               
this.   He noted that in  other meetings across the  state, there                                                               
have  been   similar  questions   raised  on   whether  expanding                                                               
pharmacists' authority is what is  being proposed.  Consequently,                                                               
the board  sought a legal opinion  on whether there would  be any                                                               
way  that   a  pharmacist  would  obtain   expanded  prescriptive                                                               
authority, and it is a definitive  "no."  The answer, he relayed,                                                               
is  that pharmacists  may prescribe  only  under a  collaborative                                                               
practice agreement, for vaccines, or  for Naloxone.  He continued                                                               
that HB  145 is regarding  the other area of  pharmacists' duties                                                               
[patient-care  services]   that  many  pharmacists   are  already                                                               
actively engaged  in across the  state.   He said that  the board                                                               
has attempted to  regulate what those services look  like, who is                                                               
engaged in the services, and  what requirements exist in order to                                                               
engage  in the  services, but  since  it is  not well-defined  in                                                               
statue, the board cannot regulate it.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  asked Mr.  Ruffridge and  Mr. Wadsworth                                                               
what the most common services  are that are not being reimbursed,                                                               
and whether  reimbursement is  being denied  by both  private and                                                               
public payors.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUFFRIDGE  replied that there  were a wide variety  of issues                                                               
that arose during the COVID-19  pandemic through his professional                                                               
capacity as a pharmacist.   For example, COVID-19 testing was the                                                               
most  prominent  issue,  and  as  pharmacists  are  not  able  to                                                               
credential  or  contract  for  Clearwave  [a  patient  engagement                                                               
platform]   COVID-19  tests   due   to   the  current   statutory                                                               
limitations,  many  insurance  companies  chose to  not  cover  a                                                               
pharmacist who  was asking  for a Clearwave  test.   He expressed                                                               
that the  pharmacist community was  restricted in this  way until                                                               
federal action  was taken,  and that  federal action  is limited.                                                               
He shared his  understanding that in order  to engage pharmacists                                                               
in the  future and to  ensure that  this problem does  not happen                                                               
again  in the  future,  action is  needed.   In  addition to  the                                                               
"worrisome" case  of COVID-19 testing,  he added that there  is a                                                               
large number of other areas  in which pharmacists are engaged in,                                                               
such as the diabetes testing  mentioned earlier in the meeting by                                                               
Dr.  Paul,  but  pharmacists  continue to  be  engaged  in  these                                                               
avenues at  a lower  level due  to the  inability to  contract or                                                               
credential   with  health   plans  such   as  Clearwave   because                                                               
pharmacists are not recognized.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADSWORTH  added that there  is an active program  inside the                                                               
tribal programs and the VA  where pharmacists have been operating                                                               
as clinical  pharmacists and already providing  the services that                                                               
Dr. Paul  mentioned earlier  in the  meeting.   These pharmacists                                                               
work  alongside  the  nurses, physician's  assistants  (PA),  and                                                               
physicians,  and have  been  operating in  this  capacity for  at                                                               
least three  decades.   He noted  that this  uptick has  not been                                                               
seen in  the private sector,  and that Dr.  Paul is one  of three                                                               
primary care pharmacists in a  private practice setting in all of                                                               
Alaska.    He  said that  the  reason  for  this  is due  to  the                                                               
difficulty experienced  by pharmacists attempting to  enroll with                                                               
the health plan  on their medical benefit in the  same way that a                                                               
PA  or a  nurse practitioner  or  physician would  enroll.   Many                                                               
states,  he continued,  have  addressed this  issue,  and in  the                                                               
state  of  Washington,  for   example,  insurance  companies  are                                                               
allowing pharmacists  to enroll with commercial  insurances.  For                                                               
this  reason,  these pharmacists  are  able  to submit  the  same                                                               
claims that  a physician  would, because  these services  are now                                                               
recognized as  in the  scope of  practice as  it falls  under the                                                               
collaborative practice agreement.  He  explained that this is how                                                               
Dr. Paul  operates.   The difficulty  comes when  some commercial                                                               
payors and  some state payors are  either not able to  enroll, or                                                               
those services  are being deemed  as not  eligible due to  a "so-                                                               
called" scope  of practice  issue.   He noted  that HB  145 would                                                               
allow pharmacists  to offer  more services  at which  they excel,                                                               
but cannot currently offer due to restrictions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:05:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY opened public testimony on HB 145.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:06:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES MCKEE,  testified on HB 145.   He spoke about  a personal                                                               
legal  case that  he said  came about  because Governor  Dunleavy                                                               
"veto-ed Medicaid/Medicare."   He explained  that he went  to the                                                               
hospital  in  an emergency  situation  and  there were  no  funds                                                               
available for his medical bills.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:08:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KYLE POHL, MD,  had his testimony in support of  HB 145 presented                                                               
by Kylie Goff.  Ms. Goff said  that Dr. Pohl works for the Alaska                                                               
Native Tribal  Health Consortium, but his  comments being relayed                                                               
by Ms. Goff are  his own.  Ms. Goff said Dr.  Pohl has provided a                                                               
full spectrum  of pediatric care  throughout the state  of Alaska                                                               
for the past  five years, practicing in  Anchorage, Alaska, Nome,                                                               
and the  surrounding villages.   He has  noticed that, at  all of                                                               
these locations,  he could not be  as effective as he  is without                                                               
the help of  an "outstanding group of pharmacists."   His work in                                                               
rural  Alaska  has  relied  heavily on  the  support  of  skilled                                                               
pharmacists, and  the pediatric well-child  immunization campaign                                                               
has  been the  result  of  a combined  effort  of physicians  and                                                               
pharmacists.  Through  this campaign, the number  of children who                                                               
are up  to date  on immunizations  has drastically  increased, as                                                               
well as the number of children who have been provided a well-                                                                   
child  check,  which  offers  screening  on  critical  birth  and                                                               
development and  routine lab  studies in the  region.   A program                                                               
has  also  been  created  to  help care  for  the  complex  adult                                                               
population, which includes strategies  to manage chronic diseases                                                               
such  as  diabetes,  heart  disease,  hypertension,  and  chronic                                                               
kidney disease.   Pharmacists  have been  critical in  helping to                                                               
create pathways  to improve screening for  cervical cancer, colon                                                               
cancer, breast  cancers, and many  other diseases, and  have been                                                               
critical in each stage of the process.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:11:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATALIE MCCAY,  Pharm.D., testified  in support of  HB 145.   She                                                               
shared that  she is  a pharmacy  technician at  Petersburg Rexall                                                               
Drug (PRD) in Petersburg, Alaska.   She noted that PRD is locally                                                               
owned by  two sisters,  and said  that she  has noticed  that the                                                               
owners  are often  the first  people that  patients come  to with                                                               
questions  or to  ask for  advice.   She  opined that  HB 145  is                                                               
especially important  for rural  communities such  as Petersburg,                                                               
and that  allowing pharmacists  to provide  additional healthcare                                                               
services will provide increased access  for patients where it can                                                               
otherwise be  limited.   She added  that allowing  technicians to                                                               
administer  vaccines while  supervised  would allow  more of  the                                                               
community  to  get  vaccinated,  which  is  especially  important                                                               
during the COVID-19 pandemic.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN WHEELER,  Pharm.D., testified  in support of  HB 145.   She                                                               
said  that she  is a  pharmacist working  at the  Yukon Kuskokwim                                                               
Corporation (YKC).   She shared  that the pharmacists at  YKC are                                                               
already providing many of the  services that would be impacted by                                                               
changes  proposed  in   HB  145.    The   pharmacists  are  fully                                                               
integrated  with  the  other providers,  nurses,  and  healthcare                                                               
professionals in  the corporation;  however, due to  an inability                                                               
to  enroll pharmacists  as billing  providers, YKC  is unable  to                                                               
receive   compensation  for   the   services   provided  by   its                                                               
pharmacists.   She shared her understanding  that pharmacists are                                                               
the most readily available healthcare  professionals, yet at this                                                               
time   in   Alaska,   pharmacists   are   the   only   healthcare                                                               
professionals   that    are   not   listed   in    the   provider                                                               
antidiscrimination statutes.   This means  that the  most readily                                                               
available healthcare professionals  are compensated minimally, if                                                               
at all, for  providing the same services that  would be otherwise                                                               
covered if provided by other  healthcare professionals, she said.                                                               
She explained  that the lack  of compensation makes  it difficult                                                               
to provide the uncompensated services  that pharmacists are well-                                                               
prepared and eager  to provide.  She noted that  this makes these                                                               
services less readily available,  which may prevent some patients                                                               
from  receiving  some  of the  services  that  pharmacists  could                                                               
quickly, easily, and competently provide.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:14:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIRK WHITE, Pharm.D., testified in support  of HB 145.  He shared                                                               
that  he  and  his  wife  have been  practicing  in  a  community                                                               
pharmacy in Sitka, Alaska, over 30  years.  He expressed that the                                                               
field  has   changed  immensely  throughout  his   lifetime,  and                                                               
predicted  that more  changes are  to  come.   He commented  that                                                               
regulations need to  be updates to reflect those  changes, and to                                                               
anticipate  future  changes.   He  noted  that, in  addiction  to                                                               
testing for COVID-19,  pharmacists would like to also  be able to                                                               
test  for  streptococcus  ("strep"),  for the  flu,  testing  for                                                               
diabetics, lipid panels,  and more.  He opined that  HB 145 would                                                               
allow for these changes to happen.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:16:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG  BARTKO, Pharm.D.,  testified  in  support of  HB  145.   He                                                               
stated that he  had a small pharmacy in Wasilla,  Alaska from the                                                               
1990s through the  year 2008, and one of the  largest problems he                                                               
had  was receiving  rejection of  claims  when billing  insurance                                                               
companies.   He said that  HB 145 would give  student pharmacists                                                               
status as  a provider,  and reiterated  that pharmacists  are the                                                               
only healthcare professionals without provider status.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:17:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARRY CHRISTENSEN, Pharm.D., testified in  support of HB 145.  He                                                               
said that he is a  community pharmacist in Ketchikan, Alaska, and                                                               
he and his  family have practiced as  pharmacists since Ketchikan                                                               
was  founded  over 47  years  ago.    He is  a  second-generation                                                               
pharmacist,   and  two   of  his   daughters  have   also  become                                                               
pharmacists.   He  disclosed  that  he is  also  co-chair of  the                                                               
legislative committee for the Alaska  Pharmacist Association.  He                                                               
said pharmacy  has changed significantly  since his  father began                                                               
practicing in  1974, and that  HB 145 recognizes the  changes and                                                               
that  modern  pharmacists  are  in  a  better  position  to  help                                                               
patients meet  pharmaceutical needs.  He  opined that pharmacists                                                               
need the  statutory language  in HB  145 in  order to  best serve                                                               
patients.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:18:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENEE ROBINSON,  testified in support of  HB 145.  She  said that                                                               
she is an  associate professor at the  University of Alaska/Idaho                                                               
State  University  College  of  Pharmacy.   She  also  serves  as                                                               
president-elect of  the Alaska  Pharmacists Association,  as well                                                               
as  the co-principal  investigator  on a  CDC  and Department  of                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services  funded  seven-month  demonstration                                                               
project  that  supports  reimbursement of  pharmacists  providing                                                               
health  services  to ensure  an  increased  access to  rural  and                                                               
underserved Alaskans.  Her career  has also included the training                                                               
of  future pharmacists.   She  opined that  HB 145  would resolve                                                               
long-standing regulatory issues that impede continued progress.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:20:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY, after ascertaining that  there was no one else                                                               
who wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 145.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY announced that HB 145 was held over.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB0153A.PDF HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 153
HB153 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 153
HB153 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 153
HB 153 Supporting Documents and Education as of 04.19.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 153
HB 58 Written Testimony as of 4-19-21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HL&C 5/17/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 58
HB 133 Sponsor Presentation 3.30.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
10 CSHB 133 Fiscal Note UA-SYSBRA 3.13.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
1 CSHB 133 ver I Sponsor Statement 4.8.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
2 CSHB0133 ver I.PDF HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
3 CSHB 133 Summary of Changes ver B to ver I 4.8.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
4 Sectional Analysis CSHB 133 ver I 4.8.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
5 HB0133 ver B.PDF HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
6 CSHB 133 Supporting Document - IRS ABLE Accounts Info 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
7 CSHB 133 Supporting Document - 10 Things You Should Know About ABLE 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
8 CSHB 133 Supporting Document - UA Press Release 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
9 CSHB 133 Fiscal Note DHSS, 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
HB 145, AK Pharmacists Assn. Talking Points.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145, Sectional Analysis, Ver. A.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145, Sponsor Statement, Ver. A.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB0145A.PDF HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145 DCCED Letter 4.14.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145 Fiscal Note - DCCED, 4.09.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145 LOS since 4.16.21.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145, AK Pharmacists Assn. Fact Sheet.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 58 Sponsor Statement v. A 3.30.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Supporting Document - Guttmacher Alaska Statistics 2016 3.30.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Sectional Analysis v. A 3.30.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Supporting Document - Guttmacher Public Costs from Unintended Pregnancies February 2015 3.30.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Supporting Document - UCSF Study Newspaper Article 2.11.2011.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Supporting Document - Unintended Pregnancies Study March 2011 3.30.2021.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Amendment 1 - Fields.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Amendment 2 - Kurka.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Zero Fiscal Note - DHSS Medicaid Services.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Zero Fiscal Note - DCCED Insurance Operations.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 58 Zero Fiscal Note - DOA Health Plans Administration.pdf HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 58
HB 133 Sponsor Presentation 3.30.21.pptx HHSS 4/20/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133