Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

03/19/2007 03:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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03:05:01 PM Start
03:05:14 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)|| Commissioner, Department of Labor & Workforce Development|| Commissioner, Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development
03:07:54 PM HB182
03:35:24 PM HB136
04:29:11 PM Adjourn
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+ HB 136 DENTAL HYGIENISTS TELECONFERENCED
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*+ HB 182 OFFERING PROMOTIONAL CHECKS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
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HB 136-DENTAL HYGIENISTS                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 136, "An Act relating to dental hygienists."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:35:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STOLTZE  explained that  HB  136  is intended  to                                                               
bring additional  healthcare access to  under-served communities.                                                               
The  House   Health,  Education  and  Social   Services  Standing                                                               
Committee  considered  this  bill and  addressed  several  health                                                               
related concerns.   He  opined that this  is an  important issue,                                                               
noting that  many healthcare professionals  have been  willing to                                                               
testify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:38:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER opined  that this  is a  good bill.   The                                                               
state has  experienced a shortage of  healthcare practitioners in                                                               
a  range of  fields, and  needs  to explore  alternative ways  of                                                               
providing  healthcare,   particularly  in   rural  areas.     She                                                               
questioned  whether  the  implementation would  be  different  in                                                               
rural areas versus urban areas.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE  speculated that the  implementation would                                                               
have a broader application in rural areas of the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  inquired as  to the definition  of "direct                                                               
supervision."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:40:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BEN MULLIGAN, Staff to Representative  Bill Stoltze, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, sponsor,  explained that "direct  supervision" means                                                               
the dentist  is in  the same  room, "indirect  supervision" means                                                               
the dentist  is in the  same facility, and  "general supervision"                                                               
means the dentist has authorized the  procedure and may not be on                                                               
the premises.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   STOLTZE,  in   response  to   a  question   from                                                               
Representative  Neuman,  explained   that  the  dental  hygienist                                                               
performs basic preventative oral care.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS  relayed  a   request  to  include  dental                                                               
assistants in HB  136, and inquired as to  the difference between                                                               
a "dental hygienist" and a "dental assistant."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STOLTZE explained  that a  "dental hygienist"  is                                                               
licensed, while "dental assistants" do  not have a defined status                                                               
in statute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS expressed  further  confusion between  the                                                               
difference  between "dental  hygienist"  and "dental  assistant."                                                               
He noted that the bill requires  4,000 hours of practice prior to                                                               
a dental hygienist being authorized  for general supervision.  He                                                               
surmised, then, that a dental  assistant is "well below" a dental                                                               
hygienist  in  regard to education.  He opined  that empowering a                                                               
dental   assistant  to   perform  certain   activities  currently                                                               
performed by dental hygienists [is not wise].                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE  replied that  while he  does not  wish to                                                               
compare  the two,  there are  defined qualification  requirements                                                               
for  dental  hygienists, which  he  does  not believe  exist  for                                                               
dental assistants.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MULLIGAN  explained that dental  assistants are  not required                                                               
to  be licensed.   Classes  are  offered, but  are not  required.                                                               
Dental assistants are not covered in statute.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS commented  that dental  hygienists have  a                                                               
defined licensing requirement.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO shared  his understanding  that the  dental                                                               
hygienist can offer  certain services while the  dentist is away,                                                               
while the dental assistant simply  assists the dentist during the                                                               
procedure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:47:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GAIL  WALDEN,  Dental  Hygienist,  Member,  Alaska  State  Dental                                                               
Hygienists' Association  (ASDHA), stated  that she is  in support                                                               
of HB  136.  She  said that the needs  of Alaskans are  not being                                                               
met  by the  current oral  healthcare delivery  system.   Current                                                               
statute   prevents   dental   hygienists  from   providing   oral                                                               
healthcare  in  non-traditional  settings.   She  explained  that                                                               
dental   hygienists  receive   a  comprehensive   education,  are                                                               
licensed and  regulated by  the state,  and must  meet continuing                                                               
education and  cardiopulmonary resuscitation  (CPR) requirements.                                                               
She opined that dental hygienists  are not being utilized to full                                                               
potential.   The  Alaska State  Board of  Dental Examiners  ("the                                                               
Board")  is in  support of  HB 136,  and has  concluded that  the                                                               
proposed changes are consistent with  its vision of ensuring that                                                               
all Alaskans  receive the  best possible care.   She  pointed out                                                               
that HB  136 has  received support from  numerous members  of the                                                               
Oral  Health   Coalition,  including  the  Alaska   Primary  Care                                                               
Association, and AARP.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. WALDEN,  referring to Section  1 of  HB 136, stated  that the                                                               
restorative  function license  endorsement  creates an  efficient                                                               
healthcare delivery system that  increases the number of patients                                                               
seen.  If the  dentist is able to bring a  dental hygienist and a                                                               
dental assistant when traveling to  rural areas, this would allow                                                               
more  procedures to  be completed  in  the time  available.   The                                                               
procedures would be  performed under the direct  supervision of a                                                               
licensed dentist,  and the dental  hygienist would be  trained in                                                               
these  procedures.    This  endorsement  would  require  separate                                                               
licensing.  She  pointed out that the  curriculum, examining, and                                                               
licensing  for restorative  functions for  dental hygienists  has                                                               
been established in other states, including Washington State.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. WALDEN then referred to Section  2 of HB 136, explaining that                                                               
this  allows dental  hygienists  to  administer local  anesthesia                                                               
under  general supervision  of a  licensed dentist.   She  stated                                                               
that dental  hygienists have been administering  local anesthesia                                                               
under  direct  or  in-direct  supervision   since  1981.    Local                                                               
anesthesia is used  to reduce stress and provide  pain control in                                                               
the  treatment  of  moderate  to   advanced  gum  disease.    She                                                               
explained that under general supervision,  the dentist must still                                                               
diagnose and provide a plan for  treatment, but would not need to                                                               
be  present in  the facility  during  the treatment.   Idaho  and                                                               
Oregon  currently  allow  dental   hygienists  to  deliver  local                                                               
anesthesia  under general  supervision.   No disciplinary  action                                                               
has been taken against these hygienists.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. WALDEN then moved on to  Section 4, stating that this section                                                               
has  the potential  to  provide the  greatest  impact to  Alaskan                                                               
communities.   Experienced  dental  hygienists may  enter into  a                                                               
written agreement  with a  dentist.   This agreement  would allow                                                               
the  dental  hygienist  to  provide  services  listed  under  the                                                               
agreement without supervision, and  would allow access to nursing                                                               
homes,  schools,  and Headstart  programs,  among  others.   This                                                               
agreement must  be approved by  the Board.   This is  intended to                                                               
reach  individuals that  are not  receiving care  and to  provide                                                               
preventative  services to  increase oral  health, in  addition to                                                               
increasing general  health and well-being.   She stated  that the                                                               
changes made  by HB  136 have been  implemented in  other states,                                                               
and have  proven to be safe  and effective.  She  opined that the                                                               
statutes   show   dental   hygienists'   continued   professional                                                               
commitment to  working with  dentists to  provide service  to the                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:52:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
IVONNE  MILLEA,   President,  Alaska  State   Dental  Hygienists'                                                               
Association (ASHDA), gave a brief  history of her experience as a                                                               
licensed dental  hygienist in Alaska,  and stated that she  is in                                                               
support of HB 136.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:53:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER  MCELROY, Dental  Hygienist, President,  Kenai Peninsula                                                               
Dental Hygiene Association, stated  that she strongly supports HB
136.    She  has  seen  a  need  for  increased  access  to  oral                                                               
healthcare.   In regard  to senior  dental care,  she has  seen a                                                               
complete  lack of  access.   She explained  that dentists  do not                                                               
visit nursing or  group homes, and residents  of these facilities                                                               
may be  unable to travel  to an  office for preventative  care or                                                               
necessary  healthcare  screenings.    She  opined  that  licensed                                                               
dental  hygienists  are  the key  oral  health  professionals  to                                                               
deliver care  in this type  of setting.  Screenings  performed by                                                               
licensed dental  hygienists can identify oral  health care issues                                                               
that may  affect overall health.   Many villages have a  need for                                                               
oral  healthcare, and  residents travel  once per  year to  see a                                                               
dentist.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:54:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GLENN MARTIN, DDS,  stated that he is a  practicing public health                                                               
dentist, a member of the  American Dental Association (ADA) and a                                                               
fellow of  the Academy  of General  Dentistry.   He gave  a brief                                                               
history of  his work  experience in  Alaska, which  includes time                                                               
spent traveling  to villages and  providing dental care.   During                                                               
the past  15 years, he has  traveled to 62 villages,  and has 128                                                               
weeks of experience practicing dentistry  in rural Alaska.  He is                                                               
currently  working in  Anchorage,  where he  is  the director  of                                                               
village travel  for Southcentral  Foundation Village Clinic.   He                                                               
stated that he  strongly supports HB 136, which  would enable him                                                               
to  provide  healthcare  to more  patients.    The  collaborative                                                               
agreement portion of the bill  would greatly increase sufficiency                                                               
by allowing dental hygienists to  travel to villages prior to the                                                               
arrival of the dentist, in  order to evaluate school-age children                                                               
and perform  x-rays and  oral screenings to  identify needs.   He                                                               
explained  that initial  screenings  and preventative  treatments                                                               
take 1-6  days, depending on  village size.  Allowing  the dental                                                               
hygienists to  perform these procedures  would allow  the dentist                                                               
to perform restorative  and emergent needs.   This would decrease                                                               
the time needed to complete  children's dental needs and increase                                                               
the  time available  to address  adult dental  needs.   He stated                                                               
that HB  136 would make  a measurable  impact on access  to care,                                                               
and urged the passage of this bill.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked if dental  hygienists are included in                                                               
the   Washington,  Wyoming,   Alaska,   Montana,  Idaho   Medical                                                               
Education Program (WWAMI).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. MARTIN replied no.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO thanked  Dr. Martin  for his  service.   He                                                               
shared his belief that Dr.  Martin's presence in the villages was                                                               
beneficial  to  individuals  that  would  not  have  enjoyed  the                                                               
"pleasure of good health" without these efforts.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:57:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROYANN ROYER, Dental  Hygienist, began by giving  a brief history                                                               
of her experience  as a dental hygienist, and stated  that she is                                                               
a member of the Oral Health  Coalition, which is in support of HB
136.  She  informed the members that she worked  as a restorative                                                               
dental  hygienist   for  two  years  in   Washington  State,  and                                                               
therefore  has first-hand  knowledge  of  the effectiveness  this                                                               
expanded function can provide.   She explained that if passed, HB
136 would significantly increase the  number of patients that can                                                               
be seen during a typical village  visit.  She agreed with earlier                                                               
testimony that  these visits currently  take one week.   Allowing                                                               
the  dental   hygienists  to  do   the  initial   screenings  and                                                               
preventative  procedures, the  dentist  would have  more time  to                                                               
perform restorative procedures.  As  an educator, she opined that                                                               
the collaborative  agreement function could be  incorporated into                                                               
the curriculum,  and emphasis placed  on utilizing  this function                                                               
for  servicing patients  in nursing  homes,  and disabled,  home-                                                               
bound patients.   She stated  that externships would  most likely                                                               
be developed with practitioners  working in these facilities, and                                                               
students  would be  mentored into  these positions.   She  opined                                                               
that while some  hygienists do not want to  work full-time, there                                                               
are  many  who would  utilize  this  expanded function  to  visit                                                               
limited-access areas  for a few  hours during the day  to provide                                                               
services.  She  pointed out that HB 136 can  be put into practice                                                               
immediately.   The  restorative aspect  would require  additional                                                               
training; however,  the University  of Alaska Anchorage  (UAA) is                                                               
ready to  develop and  implement restorative  courses as  soon as                                                               
the  legislation  is  passed.    The  initial  courses  would  be                                                               
presented  in a  condensed  format, to  allow currently  licensed                                                               
hygienists to receive this training in a short amount of time.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:01:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LOGAN, DDS,  Member, Alaska Dental Society (ADS).   The ADS                                                               
would like to see the scope  of HB 136 broadened to help increase                                                               
access  to  dental  care  in  under-served areas.    The  ADS  is                                                               
concerned  that if  this is  limited only  to dental  hygienists,                                                               
this would  restrict the use  of other dental auxiliaries  in the                                                               
aforementioned areas.   He explained  that the ADS formed  a non-                                                               
profit in  order to provide  volunteer treatment in  rural areas.                                                               
There  is  limited equipment  available,  and  the plan  involves                                                               
bringing  dental assistants  rather  than  hygienists.   Allowing                                                               
assistants  to   perform  expanded  functions  would   provide  a                                                               
valuable  asset.   He  pointed  out that  17  other states  allow                                                               
auxiliaries   to  perform   additional  functions,   adding  that                                                               
Washington State  is the  only one to  limit this  to hygienists.                                                               
Additionally,  the  ADS would  like  to  see additional  training                                                               
allowed.    The American  Dental  Association  (ADA) is  bringing                                                               
pilot programs into  different states, and the ADS  would like to                                                               
be involved in this.  Legislation is needed to authorize this.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked whether the  ADS considered an additional piece                                                               
of  legislation  for  this.     He  opined  that  because  dental                                                               
assistants are not regulated, this  might slow the passage of the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN  replied that  this has  been considered;  however, the                                                               
ADS believes  that assistants and  hygienists need to be  held to                                                               
the same standards,  therefore it is appropriate  to address this                                                               
within the same legislation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON reiterated that this  might have a negative affect on                                                               
the passage of HB 136.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS restated  his  earlier question  regarding                                                               
the difference between a dental assistant and dental hygienist.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LOGAN explained  that dental  assistants are  not regulated,                                                               
and are "loosely  defined" as a person who works  with a dentist.                                                               
Dental  assistants  provide  the following  auxiliary  functions:                                                               
placement  of rubber  dams,  handing tools  to  the dentist,  and                                                               
performing some impressions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  commented that  a dental assistant  is not                                                               
very well defined.  He stated that  he does not want to slow down                                                               
the  aid  to   villages  in  need  of   dental  healthcare  while                                                               
attempting to incorporate a "loosely defined" group.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN replied  that dental assistants are  loosely defined as                                                               
a result of  limited access to training.  While  some states have                                                               
decided to  certify dental assistants,  others have not.   Alaska                                                               
has elected  to not  require this certification.   If  all dental                                                               
assistants were  required to receive  certification, it  would be                                                               
difficult for smaller communities to meet these requirements.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS  opined  that  these  issues  need  to  be                                                               
addressed prior  to allowing dental  assistants to  perform these                                                               
expanded  functions.   While he  is  in favor  of increasing  the                                                               
number of  dental professionals working in  rural communities, he                                                               
is not comfortable  with expanding the role  of dental assistants                                                               
at this time.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:09:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  inquired  as  to whether  Dr.  Logan  had                                                               
previously stated that dental  hygienists should be independently                                                               
licensed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN replied no.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  asked whether  states currently  allow the                                                               
independent licensing  of dental  hygienists, thus  allowing them                                                               
to work independently from a dentist's office.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LOGAN  shared his  understanding  that  this is  allowed  in                                                               
Colorado.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked whether  Dr. Logan would support this                                                               
in Alaska, considering the previous testimony.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN replied that conceptually,  parts of this "make sense."                                                               
However, he  is unable to  give an endorsement to  something that                                                               
he is unable to see or examine.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked whether Dr.  Logan sees a downside to                                                               
allowing dental  hygienists to  perform the  additional functions                                                               
included in the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN  replied that he  has no problems with  the restorative                                                               
functions.   In regard  to the  collaborative agreement,  he said                                                               
that there  is some concern  with certain procedures  allowed, in                                                               
addition  to allowing  dental hygienists  to render  a diagnosis.                                                               
Allowing general  supervision for administering  local anesthesia                                                               
"has its merits."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked  whether  there  are  any  specific                                                               
concerns.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN replied that the  largest concern is with collaborative                                                               
agreement,  which  allows  the   dental  hygienist  to  render  a                                                               
diagnosis.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked whether dental assistants  should be                                                               
allowed to do this.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN  replied no, adding  that this would "certainly  not be                                                               
appropriate."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked whether the  House Health, Education and Social                                                               
Services  Standing  Committee  was asked  to  incorporate  dental                                                               
assistants into the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN  replied yes.   In response to an  additional question,                                                               
he  stated that  the request  was  denied, although  he does  not                                                               
remember hearing a specific reason for this.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:14:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY CERNEY, Dental  Hygienist, gave a brief history  of her work                                                               
experience.  She  stated that she previously  served as president                                                               
of the  Alaska State Dental Hygienists'  Association (ASDHA), and                                                               
served eight years on the Board  of Dental Examiners.  She stated                                                               
strong support of HB 136.   She agreed that dental assistants are                                                               
not regulated.   Dental hygienists receive a  formal education in                                                               
programs   that   are   accredited   by   the   American   Dental                                                               
Association's  (ADA) Council  on  Dental  Accreditation.   Dental                                                               
hygienists  must  pass a  national  board  exam, and  must  prove                                                               
competency  on an  independently administered  clinical exam,  in                                                               
order to  practice in all 50  states.  She explained  that she is                                                               
an  examining  hygienist  with  the  Western  Regional  Examining                                                               
Board.   The education received  by dental hygienists  is usually                                                               
two  years  of  college  prerequisites, and  two  academic  years                                                               
integrated with  clinical instruction.   Faculty is  also subject                                                               
to standards and qualifications.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. CERNEY  went on to  say that dental hygienists  must maintain                                                               
good  standing, and  complete continuing  education requirements.                                                               
This  sets a  baseline of  education and  qualifications for  all                                                               
hygienists.    The  Western  Regional  Examining  Board  gives  a                                                               
specific  exam   for  the  restorative  clinical   skills.    Any                                                               
hygienist performing  these functions  would be required  to take                                                               
this exam.  She stated that  the idea of expanding the setting in                                                               
which the  local anesthetic is  administered was proposed  by Dr.                                                               
Logan when  he was  president of the  Board of  Dental Examiners.                                                               
She explained the situations in  which this might occur, pointing                                                               
out  that  the  dentist  is  not required  to  allow  this.    In                                                               
summation, she  commented that the  proposed changes  improve the                                                               
healthcare  delivery  to  residents   of  Alaska,  help  maintain                                                               
education standards currently in  place, assure the competency by                                                               
requiring clinic  exams, and mandate  accountability.   In regard                                                               
to  administering anesthetic,  she  stated that  the dentist  has                                                               
recommended  this treatment.   The  collaborative care  agreement                                                               
gives the  authorization by the  dentist with whom  the agreement                                                               
is initiated, and  must be approved by the Board.   She explained                                                               
that  this does  not allow  the  hygienist to  diagnose or  offer                                                               
treatment  plans.   The  hygienist  would  simply be  allowed  to                                                               
perform the  hygiene portion  of what  is normally  done, without                                                               
the  dentist providing  a prior  diagnosis.   This  is "just  ...                                                               
flipping the order of things a little bit."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CERNEY  offered her  understanding that  proposed regulations                                                               
would  require  the  hygienist to  have  additional  training  in                                                               
emergency medical procedures.  She  supports the requirement that                                                               
hygienists  have  at least  4,000  hours  of documented  clinical                                                               
experience prior to  being allowed to enter  into a collaborative                                                               
agreement.   Referring  to a  program to  open in  Fairbanks, she                                                               
stated that  the intent is  to graduate hygienists with  a strong                                                               
emphasis  in  a variety  of  health  settings, and  to  encourage                                                               
treatment in  communities that  do not receive  a broad  scope of                                                               
dental treatment.  She shared  her experience volunteering at the                                                               
Salvation  Army Clinic  in Fairbanks,  and expressed  frustration                                                               
that she has  been unable to administer local  anesthetic to make                                                               
patients  comfortable.   She opined  that many  of these  patient                                                               
have experienced  neglect and need  more thorough  treatment than                                                               
the patients  seen at a  highly established practice.   If dental                                                               
hygienists  were  able  to   administer  local  anesthetic  under                                                               
general  supervision, the  patients could  be seen  regardless of                                                               
whether a dentist was willing to volunteer on a particular day.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:23:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIE DARLIN, Coordinator, Capital  City Task Force, Alaska AARP,                                                               
expressed  support  for HB  136.    The  AARP believes  that  all                                                               
Alaskans  should   have  access   to  high   quality,  affordable                                                               
healthcare, including oral  health.  The AARP  also believes that                                                               
HB  136  would help  reduce  dental  costs,  as well  as  improve                                                               
accessibility.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  stated that  he had  planned to  hold the  bill over                                                               
until the next  committee hearing; however, he has  not heard any                                                               
significant concerns.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:25:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH  stated that  if the  dental community  is in                                                               
support of  the legislation, he is  in support, and does  not see                                                               
any reason to hold it over.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON stated  that while he would be willing  to help draft                                                               
legislation to  address specific  concerns, he is  not supportive                                                               
of  any additions  to  HB 136.    He opined  that  this would  be                                                               
"counter productive."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS stated  that  he would  like  to see  more                                                               
people   capable  of   providing  dental   healthcare  to   rural                                                               
communities, adding that  he would look forward  to assisting the                                                               
dental community in broadening this at a later date.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:27:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN suggested  that  independent licensing  of                                                               
dental hygienists  be considered.   He  surmised that  this would                                                               
promote competition and better rates for preventative care.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:28:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  moved to  report HB  136 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being no objection,  HB 136 was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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