Legislature(2013 - 2014)BUTROVICH 205
03/17/2014 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES
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| Start | |
| HB135 | |
| SB160 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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| += | HB 77 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 160 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 135 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HB 135-PETERSVILLE RECREATIONAL MINING AREA
3:32:21 PM
CHAIR GIESSEL announced HB 135 to be up for consideration.
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER, sponsor of HB 135 said this bill was
before them last session and didn't quite make it.{ He said that
basically it allows the state to fulfill a good faith
transaction between it and a potential business owner in the
90s; HB 135 is needed for the deal to come to fruition. The
state cannot get title to 220 acres, because the Bureau of Land
Management (BLM) has it. That land is destined to become
recreational mining land. So, it is supported by the Alaska
Miners Association.
3:33:05 PM
SENATOR MICCICHE joined the committee
3:34:19 PM
JIM POUND, staff to Representative Keller, Alaska State
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, said they are mostly talking about
the Petersville Road area near Trapper Creek where someone wants
to make a mining museum out of the remaining buildings of a
mining facility. It would be designed for people to do some gold
panning without having to worry about stepping on someone else's
claim.
3:35:39 PM
BRENT GOODRUM, Director, Division of Mining, Land and Water,
Department of Natural Resources (DNR), Juneau, Alaska, said HB
135 is simple, but the issue is complex. He explained that a Ms.
Stevens has a number of at-risk standing state mining claims on
top of state selected federal lands. The lands are currently in
a legislatively designated area - that being the Petersville
Recreational Mining Area - as well as being subject to Mineral
Closing Order 674.
He explained that in May of 1997, HB 46 was signed into law
establishing two areas for recreational mining in the
Petersville area of the Upper Susitna Valley. The North
Petersville Recreational Area, approximately 280 acres, is
currently open and active. The southern portion of the
Petersville Recreational Mining Area, approximately 220 acres,
is not yet in state ownership.
HB 135 is the first necessary step to begin to unravel a
complexity of issues by simply removing the southern portion
from legislative designation, which would move the area closer
to potentially fulfilling what the state had originally
envisioned with this land.
3:37:27 PM
SENATOR BISHOP asked if this bill would allow the same type of
use that occurs at the Pedro Monument in Fairbanks for
recreational mining.
MR. GOODRUM answered that it would be very similar to the
activities at Crow Creek Mine near Girdwood, which is on private
land, and El Dorado Gold Mine near Fairbanks.
SENATOR BISHOP asked for a description of approved mining
methods.
MR. GOODRUM answered they hadn't developed an official
management plan, but a recreational mining area would have some
sort of lease or concession where gold panning opportunities
would be made available to tourists. Traditionally, you don't
have that type of activity on active commercial mining claims.
People could learn about gold mining history and activities with
the structure and the equipment that is already there.
3:39:21 PM
SENATOR MICCICHE said they are talking about 200 acres of land
and asked him to talk about the prohibition against local and
special legislation in Article 2, section 19, of the
Constitution and the ruling by Mr. Bullock.
3:40:17 PM
ASHLEY BROWN, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Division, Oil,
Gas and Mining Section, Department of Law (DOL), Anchorage,
Alaska, responded that she had looked at Mr. Bullock's letter
that concluded this legislation did not violate the
constitutional provision.
3:41:09 PM
MICHELE STEVENS, representing herself, Petersville, Alaska,
supported HB 135. She said she is the property owner in question
and this legislation removes several mining claims from the
southern part of the recreational mining area. She explained
that in 1994, she discussed the creation of a recreational
mining area located at Petersville with the Division of Mining.
At that time the director was Jules Tileston and the deputy
commissioner was Marty Rutherford. The federal claims were
already surveyed, so she and the division agreed to use the
federal monuments and names as reference points and boundaries
for the proposed site. She agreed to gift the federal portions
of her state mining claims, which encompassed the federal
claims, to the State of Alaska with an express commitment by the
Division of Mining that once the federal land was conveyed to
Alaska approximately 220 acres of that area would become known
as the Petersville Recreational Mining Area and be leased to her
for establishment of a commercial recreational mining
concession. This would include a museum and other amenities.
In December 1996, Jules Tileston introduced regulations for the
use of Petersville Recreational Area and thus started working
with her, the Alaska Miners Association (AMA), and the president
of the Yetna Mining District to secure a place that provided the
public a high quality chance to pan for gold and revenues to the
state, that promoted local enterprise and provided an
educational experience about gold mining. At this time having a
recreational business on a mining claim was not allowed and the
Division of Mining chose to go through legislation to get the
recreational area designated.
MS. STEVENS said the intent of the DNR was to lease back the
southern recreational area to her when it received conveyance of
the land from the BLM. HB 135 provided direction that the
department should aggressively pursue the opportunity to have
private enterprise develop and run a high quality public
recreational experience centered on gold panning.
Subsequent to the claims being gifted to her by the Division of
Mining and issuance of the Mineral Closing Order, the DNR
Division of Lands determined that it could not under existing
state law establish a lease without it going out to competitive,
commercial bid. Then in 2006 the Division of Lands found a legal
way for a commercial business to be operated on a portion of
state mining claim by establishing a miscellaneous land use
lease provided there was concurrence with the mining claim
holder. This approach cannot be used on lands designated by
statute as a recreational mining area.
She explained that the HB 135 contains two provisions: it would
reinstate her full mineral rights to those portions of her
mining claims in the southern recreational area and it would
remove the statutory designation and allow the DNR to lift the
Mineral Closing Order, which would give the state the authority
to go forward and her claims would become whole. Then the DNR
could fulfill its original agreement with her.
Questions arose around a letter from Dick Mylius about whether
or not the claim would revert back to her, but the state has now
accepted her amendment to the claims and in the event HB 135
passes, the land will automatically revert back to her and make
her whole. The DNR, the AMA, and the Yetna Mining District all
concur that this is the best mechanism with which to proceed
forward.
3:46:13 PM
CHAIR GIESSEL, finding no further comments, closed public
testimony.
REPRESENTATIVE KELLY thanked them for their consideration adding
that it had been going on a long time and had a lot of support.
SENATOR DYSON moved to report HB 135, version 28-LS0190\A, from
committee with attached fiscal note and individual
recommendations. There were no objections and it was so ordered.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB 160 vs A.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Sectional Analysis.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Fiscal Note-DFG-WCD-03-14-14.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Fiscal Note-DNR-MLW-3-08-14.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Backup Information.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Economic Impacts of Guided Hunting Final.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 BOG letter to DNR 201205.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Opp Letter IsraelPayton 20140313.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Opp Letter TonyDingess.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Supp Letter AirCarrier.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Supp Letter BradDennison 20140208.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Supp Letter CabotPitts 20140210.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Supp Letter JoeyKlutsch.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Supp Letter MichaelLitzen 20140311.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Supp Letter USGO Fithian WHHCC 20120203.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 Supp Letter-TRC RobertFirthian 20140220.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| SB 160 GCP DNR Presentation 20140317.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |
| HB 135 vs A.PDF |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Fiscal Note.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 AS 41.23.600-.630.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Additional History Docs.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Legal Question Memo 20130129.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 DNR Letter-HB 340 20100409.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
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| HB 135 Petersville Area Map.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Petersville Mine Map.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Petersville To Mine Dist Map.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Supp Letter AMA 20140118.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Supp Letter AMA 20140310.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 Supp Letter JulesTileston.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| HB 135 DNR Letter 20100409.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
HB 135 |
| SB 160 Phil Byrd Letter.pdf |
SRES 3/17/2014 3:30:00 PM |
SB 160 |