Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

01/22/2026 03:15 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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                          HB 124-AIDEA                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:55:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK announced  the final  order of  business would  be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  124 "An  Act relating  to the  Alaska Industrial                                                               
Development and Export Authority;  and providing for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
She said  this would be  just an  introductory session to  HB 124                                                               
and a chance to gather questions.   Next week, the committee will                                                               
hear  directly  from  Alaska Industrial  Development  and  Export                                                               
Authority  (AIDEA) for  the staff  to answer  questions and  have                                                               
further discussion.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:55:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:56 p.m. to 3:58 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[During the at-ease, Chair Carrick  turned the gavel over to Vice                                                               
Chair Story.]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:58:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK,  as prime  sponsor, said that  she was  excited to                                                               
bring forward  HB 124.   She noted  that AIDEA had  provided many                                                               
documents for the committee to review [in the committee file].                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She began  a PowerPoint presentation  [hard copy included  in the                                                               
committee files] entitled "The AIDEA  Accountability Act HB 124."                                                               
The  presentation   reviewed  the  mission,  brief   history  and                                                               
economic impact of AIDEA.   She said this proposed legislation is                                                               
not about getting rid of AIDEA but about striking a balance.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK continued, on slide  3, "AIDEA projects and loans."                                                               
She shared that a small number  of projects are under $10 million                                                               
to  some  that  are  over  $50 million.    She  highlighted  some                                                               
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK said  the purpose of HB 124 is  to strike a balance                                                               
between AIDEA's mission while enhancing  oversight.  Other state-                                                               
owned organizations don't  have the same oversight,  but AIDEA is                                                               
a bit fundamentally different.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK  said  she  is trying  to  help  juxtapose  public                                                               
backlash  against  AIDEA  with  the  desire  for  AIDEA  to  move                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:05:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART RELAY, Staff, Representative  Ashley Carrick, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of  Representative Carrick  presented the                                                               
sectional analysis of  HB 124 [included in the  PowerPoint and as                                                               
a separate  document that read  as follows,  original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: Short title; The AIDEA Accountability Act.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: Amends AS 44.88.030(a)                                                                                        
     • Requires  legislative confirmation for  Board Members                                                                    
     • Increases the size of the  board from 7 to 9 members.                                                                    
     •  Designates at  least one  board (1)  board seat  for                                                                    
     someone   representing    an   environmental   advocacy                                                                    
     organization.                                                                                                              
     • Adds two (2) board  members: one (1) appointed by the                                                                    
     Speaker  of the  House, and  one (1)  appointed by  the                                                                    
     President of the Senate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3: Amends AS 44.88.030(c)                                                                                        
     • Conforming language relating  to the increased number                                                                    
     of board members.                                                                                                          
     • Increases the  length of board terms from  two (2) to                                                                    
     three (3) years.                                                                                                           
     • Prohibits Governor's from removing board members. •                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4: Requires  the AIDEA  Board  to establish  a                                                                  
     personnel  policy and  minimum  qualifications for  the                                                                    
     executive director.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     Section 5: Conforming language relating to Section 14.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section   6:  Requires   the  AIDEA   Board  to   adopt                                                                  
     regulations by passing a resolution.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7: Amends AS 44.88.085(d)                                                                                        
     •  Increases public  notice requirement  from 15  to 30                                                                    
     days for board meetings.                                                                                                   
     • Requires  the Board to  give each testifier  at least                                                                    
     two (2) minutes for their testimony.                                                                                       
     • Requires  the Board  to publish written  responses to                                                                    
     public comments.                                                                                                           
     •   Requires   the   Board   to   publish   a   written                                                                    
     justification  when   they  adopt,  amend,   or  repeal                                                                    
     regulations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8: Adds new section  AS 44.88.107,                                                                               
     Caps the size of the  AIDEA Revolving Fund, and all its                                                                    
     sub funds at  $500 million. If the fund  goes over $500                                                                    
     million, surplus funds go into the general fund.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9:  Adds new section    AS  44.88.179 requiring                                                                  
     the  following actions  to be  taken  for all  projects                                                                    
     over $10 million.                                                                                                          
          • Seek approval from  a municipality or borough if                                                                    
          a project is within their boundaries.                                                                                 
          •  Produce the  following findings  relating to  a                                                                    
          project                                                                                                               
               • It is economically advantageous.                                                                               
               •  The   project  applicant   is  financially                                                                    
               responsible. • Address  concerns about demand                                                                    
               on  public roadways  and facilities  relating                                                                    
               to this project.                                                                                                 
               • Employment projections and data.                                                                               
                   The    project   is    economically   and                                                                    
               financially feasible.                                                                                            
               • The project is legal.                                                                                          
          • Produce  a report about the  projected economic,                                                                    
          social, and  environmental effects of  the project                                                                    
          • Host a public hearing on the project.                                                                               
          •  Submit   a  report  to  the   legislature  that                                                                    
          includes  all documents  relating to  the findings                                                                    
          required in this section.                                                                                             
          • Gain approval from the legislature by law.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10:  Prohibits AIDEA Board members  from voting                                                                  
     on measures  in which  they have an  indirect ownership                                                                    
     interest.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     Section  11-12: Updates  annual reporting  requirements                                                                  
     to the Legislature.                                                                                                        
          • (Sec.  11) Specifies that AIDEA's  annual report                                                                    
          is  due to  the  Legislature on  January 10.  This                                                                    
          requirement  is  already  in statute;  this  is  a                                                                    
         conforming change suggested by Legal Services.                                                                         
          • (Sec. 12) Requires  AIDEA to develop performance                                                                    
          metrics,  and those  metrics must  be included  in                                                                    
          the  annual  report.   Those  metrics  include  an                                                                    
          analysis of:                                                                                                          
               • Job creation                                                                                                   
               • Industry growth                                                                                                
               •   Financial    and   technical   assistance                                                                    
               provided to state business and private                                                                           
               investment increases.                                                                                            
          • (Sec. 12) Requires the annual report to include                                                                     
          the findings of AIDEA's annual audit.                                                                                 
          • (Sec. 12) Requires the annual report to include                                                                     
          a summary of actions taken at all board meetings.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13: Requires AIDEA to  be subject to the Alaska                                                                  
     Public Records Act. •                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Section 14:  Requires the  Attorney General  to approve                                                                  
     all lawsuits pursued by AIDEA.  If the Attorney General                                                                    
     approves a  lawsuit, the legislature must  be notified.                                                                    
     Approval  by  the  AG  is not  required  for  AIDEA  to                                                                    
     respond to a lawsuit.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Section  15:  Repeals   AS  44.88.380,  which  provides                                                                  
     immunity for AIDEA employees for  damages for acts done                                                                    
     while performing the duties of their position.                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     Section 16: Transition; Appointment of Board Members                                                                     
     • The terms of board  members (except the Commissioners                                                                    
     of DCCED and DOR)  expire when the Legislature confirms                                                                    
     at least two of the Governor's appointments.                                                                               
     •  The  term lengths  of  newly  appointed AIDEA  Board                                                                    
     members, appointed by the  governor after the effective                                                                    
     date of this act are as follows.                                                                                           
          • Two members for one-year terms.                                                                                     
          • Two members for two-year terms.                                                                                     
          • One member for a three-year term.                                                                                   
     • The Speaker of the  House and President of the Senate                                                                    
     shall appoint board  members on or before  the 30th day                                                                    
     of the  first regular session of  the 35th legislature.                                                                    
     •  Previous  board  members  are  not  prohibited  from                                                                    
     serving on the Board.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 17: Effective date, January 1, 2027.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:10:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked, "What did  AIDEA do to make  you so                                                               
mad?" He said that this is  not a minor adjustment, but "rips the                                                               
guts  out" of  a program  and puts  it under  supervision of  the                                                               
legislature.  He questioned the need to micromanage AIDEA.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK  countered  that this  is  essentially  dissolving                                                               
AIDEA's capacity to do its work.   A lot of reforms are broad and                                                               
sweeping  but  are   for  the  public's  benefit   not  just  the                                                               
legislature, such  as timely public  notice, allowing  for public                                                               
testimony for  regulation changes,  and submitting the  board for                                                               
the Public Records Act.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked for confirmation that  AIDEA was one                                                               
of only  five or six of  the public corporations that  returned a                                                               
dividend to the state, in the amount of $20 million.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  agreed that  AIDEA did return  a dividend  and was                                                               
the  only corporation  to do  so.   Historically,  over the  last                                                               
number of  years, AIDEA has  returned a low  dividend considering                                                               
the range  available for returning  a dividend.  She  didn't want                                                               
to  comment on  their  specific investment  and economic  factors                                                               
that led  to that distribution.   This proposed legislation  is a                                                               
mechanism for  the legislature  to be a  little more  involved in                                                               
AIDEA's governance, therefore allowing for more development.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  said that this  could be fleshed  out when                                                               
AIDEA comes to visit.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  first asked a clarifying  question on the                                                               
sectional analysis, regarding two elements  in section 9.  On the                                                               
findings  related to  a project,  he asked  whether one  would be                                                               
compliant with  comprehensive plans  that would be  applicable to                                                               
that jurisdiction.  The second  question is how the prime sponsor                                                               
would  expect the  approval of  the legislature  on these  larger                                                               
projects, as the legislature only meets once a year.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK said she did  not see that the proposed legislation                                                               
is  specifically addressing  comprehensive  plans.   Many of  the                                                               
communities  affected  by  most  projects  don't  have  municipal                                                               
governance.  She  addressed concerns on public  roadways that the                                                               
local  community would  be  consulted.  She asked  Representative                                                               
Holland to restate the second question.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  said  he  was  curious  about  the  last                                                               
bullet,  gain approval  by the legislature by law.    He wondered                                                               
how this  would impact  AIDEA on processing  large projects  in a                                                               
timely manner.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK said  this is  a  great question  and the  biggest                                                               
policy question:  At what  threshold does the legislature set the                                                               
project's approval  to ensure AIDEA is  able to do its  work in a                                                               
timely fashion?   She  said that  projects over  a size  that the                                                               
legislature  determines are  "large  projects"  would receive  an                                                               
additional level  of approval  and oversight.   The  threshold is                                                               
currently set  at $10  million as  a  large project."   It  is my                                                               
intent that a project the size  of Ambler Road would qualify as a                                                               
large  project.   The Interior  gas buildout  in Fairbanks,  $139                                                               
million  project,  is a  very  large  project.   There  could  be                                                               
different  interpretations and  balance  on how  it would  affect                                                               
timelines.   The legislature  wants AIDEA to  be able  to "strike                                                               
while the iron is hot" within reason.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:18:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  had a  couple questions  as far  as the                                                               
idea of using a comprehensive plan  of the community on page 4 of                                                               
the bill.   If there  were a  comprehensive plan, it  wouldn't be                                                               
difficult to  make a resolution.   She asked if that  would cover                                                               
the need to align with the comprehensive plan for a project.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK answered  probably and a lot of  the legislation is                                                               
policy calls in terms of what  the intent was and what would take                                                               
place.  She said this may be an area that needs to be worked on.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  said the  next question is  about AIDEA                                                               
itself having a long history and  has AIDEA been reviewed in this                                                               
way.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  said that  her staff  could answer  this question,                                                               
and  it is  a great  question for  AIDEA when  its representative                                                               
presents to us next week.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:20:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART RELAY stated  that in his research, there  was some reform                                                               
in the '80s  related to bonding which was the  last big reform of                                                               
AIDEA.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT said  she has  not thoroughly  read the                                                               
statutes,  but it  is only  the corporation  that is  required to                                                               
share a dividend.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK said she believes it is the only one required.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:21:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  explained she  is trying to  understand the                                                               
motivation and goal  of the bill.   A few years ago,  there was a                                                               
bill  about public  processes,  as AIDEA  was  always going  into                                                               
executive sessions.   She said  that she sees components  in this                                                               
bill  as indicating  that there  isn't  transparency with  AIDEA.                                                               
This  bill gives  the perception  of  micromanaging AIDEA,  anti-                                                               
economic  development, and  it looks  like  overregulation.   She                                                               
stated  that if  the bill  was  about creating  a clearer  public                                                               
process and transparency, then she could support it.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK  said  that she  appreciated  that  question.  She                                                               
reviewed the mission of AIDEA.   The proposed legislation is just                                                               
a starting  point for  hearing from peers  and colleagues  and to                                                               
strike a  better balance.  She  confirmed that there have  been a                                                               
lot of  public pushbacks, especially  on some hot  button topics.                                                               
She would  like to  elevate the good  work and  heavily supported                                                               
work that  AIDEA does  across the state,  while not  ignoring the                                                               
need for  transparency, or people's  concerns. Some of  the large                                                               
projects  have more  scrutiny as  the  projects impact  a lot  of                                                               
communities  involved.   She stated  her intention  to put  out a                                                               
bill that strikes a better balance.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:25:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  said his  staff did  a little  research in                                                               
this  period  of  budgetary  issues  and  found  that  AIDEA  has                                                               
returned about  a half billion dollars  to state.  He  said AIDEA                                                               
is  a good  source for  revenue  and should  be left  alone.   He                                                               
asked, "Would you  be supportive of AIDEA being a  good place for                                                               
the spur project?"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK responded  that  nothing  in HB  124  says that  a                                                               
project  couldn't go  forward; it  would require  more oversight.                                                               
She said  with the spur line,  AIDEA would be a  great mechanism.                                                               
She stated that  the threshold for qualifying as  a project needs                                                               
extra scrutiny by the legislature.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCCABE   said   another  concern   involves   an                                                               
environmental person on the board to further hamstring AIDEA.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK said  this was a direct  request from constituents,                                                               
objecting to  insertion that it  would be a  hamstring mechanism.                                                               
Many  projects in  the state  are not  going forward  because the                                                               
legislature  does not  have  the  expertise in  this  area.   She                                                               
wondered if  having an environmental  advocacy person  would spur                                                               
additional energy projects.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:31:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND noted  that  AIDEA's  assets total  about                                                               
$1.7  billion.   A  dividend  of 5  percent  would  be about  $70                                                               
million instead of $20 million this  year.  The statute gives the                                                               
AIDEA  board a  decision  about that  percentage  of dividend  to                                                               
return  to the  state.    He asked,  "Is  there consideration  of                                                               
dividend as part of the look at AIDEA?"                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK responded that she was open to considering it.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  stated that the bill  would require AIDEA                                                               
to  divest two-thirds  of its  current portfolio.   He  asked for                                                               
more clarity of what is in the AIDEA portfolio.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  answered that  this is a  great question  for when                                                               
AIDEA is  before the committee.  She added that  this information                                                               
is not easily available.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:37:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR STORY  thanked  Representative  Carrick for  bringing                                                               
forward HB 124, the legislature  wants to ensure all the entities                                                               
are sound and  the public have confidence in them.   She received                                                               
e-mails about  the lack  of public  process and  how that  can be                                                               
improved.  Also, e-mails say in  recent years there have not been                                                               
as many jobs  as the legislature thought there was  to be.  Moody                                                               
downgraded  AIDEA's  credit rating  in  2019  due  to a  lack  of                                                               
transparency.   Building public confidence in  AIDEA is something                                                               
to strive for as well as  with whatever agency the legislature is                                                               
working with.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[HB 124 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CS HB 133 STA Ver. L.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB133.Summary of Changes Ver. T to Ver. L.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Fiscal Note Packet Updated 1-22-26.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 124 Sponsor Statement Ver. A.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB 124 Ver. A.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB 124 Sectional Analysis Ver. A.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB 124 Backup Whitepaper Ver. A.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB 124 Presentation 1-22-26.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB 124 Written Testimony 2025.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB 124 Backup - Docs from AIDEA.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB 124 Backup AIDEA Annual Report 2025.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124
HB124-DCCED-AIDEA-01-21-26.pdf HSTA 1/22/2026 3:15:00 PM
HB 124