Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

03/11/2025 03:15 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to a Call of the Chair --
+= HB 91 MARIJUANA: TAX/RETAIL STORES/REGISTRATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 91(STA) Out of Committee
+= HB 43 ELECTIONS, VOTING, BALLOTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 104 ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+= HB 119 GAS PIPELINE FAIRBANKS SPUR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 30 OFFICE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 30(STA) Out of Committee
               HB 119-GAS PIPELINE FAIRBANKS SPUR                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:37:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  119, "An Act relating to an  in-state natural gas                                                               
pipeline   developed   by    the   Alaska   Gasline   Development                                                               
Corporation; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:41:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK opened public testimony on HB 119.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:41:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL  HECKMAN,  Regulatory   Manager,  Golden  Valley  Electric                                                               
Association (GVEA), testified in support  of HB 119, which aligns                                                               
with  GVEA's goals  and supports  measures  to ensure  short-term                                                               
certainty  for  inputting liquified  natural  gas  (LNG) to  Cook                                                               
Inlet and state  efforts to assess the  feasibility of connecting                                                               
a gas line connecting the  North Slope to the Railbelt, including                                                               
a spur to the Fairbanks North Slope Borough.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HECKMAN, in  response to  Representative McCabe,  noted that                                                               
GVEA's plant  in North Pole,  Alaska, is  slated for a  dual fuel                                                               
fired set-up that  would allow for both oil and  natural gas.  To                                                               
a  follow-up   question,  he   noted  that   the  cost   of  this                                                               
conversation would be significant.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:46:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK  noted that  powerplant  on  University of  Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks (UAF) campus can burn coal or natural gas.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:47:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID GUTTENBERG, Assembly Member,  Fairbanks North Star Borough,                                                               
noted  that  the  assembly has  passed  numerous  resolutions  in                                                               
support  of  a  spur  line   into  Fairbanks,  and  he  expressed                                                               
frustration  that it  was  not a  part of  the  project from  the                                                               
beginning.   He talked about  the state's  constitution requiring                                                               
the state's resources  to be of maximum benefit  to all Alaskans.                                                               
He said  the Alaska Gasline  Development Corporation  (AGDC) "has                                                               
always given  the concept of a  spur line built into  the project                                                               
kind of a sideways glance."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:50:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOMO   STEWART,   President,   Fairbanks   Economic   Development                                                               
Corporation  (FEDC), testified  in support  of HB  119 as  a much                                                               
needed "conversation starter."   He spoke about AGDC's indication                                                               
that Fairbanks  lateral is  not integral  to the  overall gasline                                                               
project and the concern that  causes for the Fairbanks North Star                                                               
Borough.    He said  that  while  FEDC understands  that  highest                                                               
priority of  the State of Alaska  is to monetize North  Slope gas                                                               
"to the  good of all residents"  and its secondary concern  is to                                                               
get gas down  to Southcentral Alaska, it would be  "a tragedy" if                                                               
Fairbanks were  bypassed or the gas  was too expensive to  use or                                                               
the borough  were not  in the  position to  support the  gas line                                                               
with  its  demands.   He  stated  that  while  HB  119 is  not  a                                                               
solution, it is a start of a valuable conversation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:53:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GRIER HOPKINS, Mayor, Fairbanks  North Star Borough, testified in                                                               
support  of  HB  119.    He  emphasized  the  importance  of  not                                                               
bypassing  Fairbanks   and  noted  that  the   borough  has  been                                                               
developing a natural gas market.   He emphasized the high cost of                                                               
heating in  Interior Alaska.   He said  HB 119 would  ensure that                                                               
those in  the greater borough area  are "not left behind"  and do                                                               
not see increased costs for natural gas "at their doorstep."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:57:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOPKINS,  in response to Representative  Vance, described the                                                               
role of the  Fairbanks North Star Borough as  making certain that                                                               
the  project  is economical  at  the  local  level and  to  begin                                                               
working on all  projects necessary to ensure access  for the spur                                                               
line.   He indicated that  HB 119 would  give ensure the  spur is                                                               
going to happen.   In response to a follow-up  question, he added                                                               
that the borough would also need  to see headway with the project                                                               
as a  whole.  Knowing  that they would  be part of  project would                                                               
allow the  borough to  plan.  In  response to  encouragement from                                                               
Representative  Vance to  begin community  engagement, he  shared                                                               
that  community   financial  assistance  plans   and  educational                                                               
programs have been created.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:00:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE talked  local improvement districts, talked                                                               
about resistance  to put  gas lines into  some of  his districts.                                                               
Said low income  people have not been able to  pay, asked if this                                                               
would be an issue.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOPKINS,  in response to Representative  McCabe regarding the                                                               
lack of  financial means  in some  communities, said  the borough                                                               
received federal funding for line  expansion and price to hook up                                                               
is paid by  those who want to  hook up.  He  talked about density                                                               
mapping and  a process for  figuring out  interest.  He  said the                                                               
borough is allowing residential and  business choice, needs to be                                                               
economical.  He offered further details about service areas.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:05:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELENA SUDDUTH,  General Manager, Interior Gas  Utility, testified                                                               
in support  of HB  119.   She Interior climate  is harsh  and the                                                               
price  of  available fuel  sources  is  high.   She  stated  that                                                               
currently  IGU  supplies  approximately 1.5  billion  cubic  feet                                                               
(bcf) of  natural gas  annually, and  she explained  the involved                                                               
process that must  happen to supply that gas because  there is no                                                               
natural  gas pipeline  that comes  to the  region.   This process                                                               
more  than doubles  the  price  of natural  gas  to the  Interior                                                               
compared to the  Southcentral region.  She said  a Wood Mackenzie                                                               
study projected  that Fairbanks could  transition to  natural gas                                                               
and achieve a 90 percent penetration  rate from 2031 to 2033, for                                                               
a  total demand  of 11  bcf.   She compared  that to  the current                                                               
demand of 1.5 bcf.  She  stated, "Reaching this level of adoption                                                               
requires   an   affordable  rate."      She   said  without   the                                                               
infrastructure,  the  Interior  might  not  reach  the  projected                                                               
level, which could result in increased  costs for the rest of the                                                               
state during phase I of the  project.  She said the mandate under                                                               
HB 119  for the  spur to  Fairbanks as  essential, and  given the                                                               
already  high cost  of  energy in  this region,  she  said it  is                                                               
crucial that  financial responsibility for this  lateral not fall                                                               
on its residents.  She concluded  that HB 119 would establish the                                                               
spur as a statewide priority.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:08:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK, after  ascertaining  there was  no  one else  who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 119.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:09:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  set an  amendment deadline  and announced  that HB
119 was held over.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 91 Fiscal Note DCCED-AMCO-03-10-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 91
CSHB30 Ver I HSTA.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 30
HB 30 HSTA Summary of Changes Ver N to I.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 30
CSHB 43 HSTA Ver I.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 43 Written Testimony 2-13-25 Packet 2.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 43 Support LTR ACLU 2-13-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB104 Sponsor Statement Version N 2.26.2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Version N.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Version N Sectional Analysis 2.26.2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DOA-SSOA-03-07-2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DPS-AST-3-7-2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DPS-CDVSA-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DPS-VCCB-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Version N Written Testimony as of 3.01.2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB119 Support Letter GVEA 3-5-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119
HB119 Support Letter IGU 3-5-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119
HB 119 Backup FNSB Resolution.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119
CSHB43 Summary of Changes Ver N to I.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 91 Amendment A.2.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 91
HB 30 Support LTR Launch Alaska 3-10-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 30
HB 119 HSTA Follow Up AGDC 3-11-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119