Legislature(2023 - 2024)ANCH LIO DENALI Rm

12/05/2023 02:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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+ HB 115 NATUROPATHS: LICENSING; PRACTICE TELECONFERENCED
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            HB 115-NATUROPATHS: LICENSING; PRACTICE                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:25:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                              
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  115,  "An  Act   relating  to  the  practice  of                                                              
naturopathy;   establishing   the  Naturopathy   Advisory   Board;                                                              
relating   to   the  licensure   of   naturopaths;   relating   to                                                              
disciplinary   sanctions   for   naturopaths;  relating   to   the                                                              
Department of Commerce,  Community, and Economic  Development; and                                                              
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:25:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX, as  prime sponsor,  stated that the  purpose                                                              
of HB  115 is  to allow naturopaths  to practice  to the  scope of                                                              
their  training.  He  stated that  currently  they are trained  to                                                              
prescribe drugs  and do minor, in-office surgeries;  however, they                                                              
are not allowed  to do these things in Alaska.   He explained that                                                              
the discussion  to allow  naturopaths to practice  in this  way in                                                              
the state  has been ongoing  for ten years.   He pointed  out that                                                              
in other states  this is allowed, and evidence  suggests that this                                                              
practice is viable.  He deferred to the invited testimony.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:27:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATALIE WIGGINS,  ND, Alaska  Association of Naturopathic  Doctors                                                              
(AKAND), gave  invited testimony on HB  115.  She stated  that she                                                              
is representing  AKAND in support  of HB  115.  She  expressed the                                                              
opinion that  this is in the  best interest of  Alaskan residents,                                                              
as medical  costs are  rising, which is  directly affected  by the                                                              
accessibility  of  care and  the  shortage of  medical  providers.                                                              
She  said that  naturopaths are  ready to  address this  shortage;                                                              
however, their practice  is hindered by limitations  in the state.                                                              
She addressed the  concerns of their qualifications  by discussing                                                              
naturopaths'  educational  requirements.   She  stated that  after                                                              
completing a  bachelor's degree, a  naturopath in the  state would                                                              
then  complete an  accredited  four-year  doctoral  program.   She                                                              
stated that  the training includes  140 hours of  pharmacology and                                                              
1,120  hours of  clinical  training, which  includes  prescriptive                                                              
management  and minor  office procedures.   She  stated that  this                                                              
training  is commensurate  with  nurse practitioners,  who have  a                                                              
less restrictive  scope of practice in  the state, and  it is more                                                              
training  than physician  assistants  receive.    She pointed  out                                                              
that  both  nurse  practitioners  and  physician  assistants  have                                                              
prescriptive  authority.    She  argued  that  these  restrictions                                                              
prohibit naturopaths  from fully using their skills  in the state.                                                              
She pointed out  that HB 115 mirrors legislation  in other states,                                                              
adding that  she had practiced  for many  years in Arizona  in the                                                              
full scope of her  training.  She stated that in  Arizona she also                                                              
provided training  to medical students and nurses  and oversite to                                                              
physician assistants.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  WIGGINS stated  that  she returned  to  Alaska  to raise  her                                                              
family; however, this  meant that she had to give  up her practice                                                              
to the  extent of her  training.  She  argued that when  she moved                                                              
back  to Alaska,  her  certified  medical  experience  did not  go                                                              
away.  She stated  that in Alaska she is forced  to refer patients                                                              
when they need  medications.  Because of the  limited availability                                                              
of providers,  she  pointed out  the long wait  time for  patients                                                              
before  being seen,  and she argued  that this  is an  unnecessary                                                              
burden  to the  state's health  care infrastructure.   She  argued                                                              
that the patients  of naturopaths in the state  need their doctors                                                              
to have  the ability  to prescribe  medications and perform  minor                                                              
office   procedures;   otherwise,   these  patients   would   need                                                              
duplicative  office   appointments.    She  reiterated   that  the                                                              
proposed legislation  would help  cushion the overwhelming  health                                                              
care  burden.   In summary,  she stated  that there  are about  45                                                              
licensed naturopathic  doctors in the state who  are qualified and                                                              
trained for prescriptive needs and minor office procedures.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:35:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER questioned who trains the naturopaths.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. WIGGINS  explained that  clinical training  is led  by medical                                                              
doctors and naturopathic doctors.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:37:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WRIGHT   questioned   whether  there   were   any                                                              
instances  during  her  work in  Arizona  which  required  another                                                              
doctor.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR.  WIGGINS stated  that in  Arizona  her prescriptive  authority                                                              
did  not  include  chemotherapy.    In  response  to  a  follow-up                                                              
question, she  stated that  in a primary  care setting,  there are                                                              
always  times  when   patients  need  to  be  referred   to  other                                                              
specialists.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:39:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARRIE   BALDWIN-SAYRE,  ND,   Director   of  Advanced   Community                                                              
Engagement, National  University of Natural Medicine  (NUNM), gave                                                              
invited  testimony on  HB 115.   She addressed  the education  and                                                              
training  completed  by  naturopathic  physicians  at  NUNM.    To                                                              
become  a  licensed  naturopathic  physician,  she  said  that  an                                                              
individual must  attend an accredited naturopathic  medical school                                                              
overseen by the  US Department of Education.  She  added that NUNM                                                              
is  overseen  by  both programmatic  accreditors  and  a  regional                                                              
institutional   accreditor.    She   stated  that  this   regional                                                              
institutional  accreditor   sets  the  standards   for  curriculum                                                              
delivery,  performance   outcomes,  financial  stability   of  the                                                              
institution,  and  more.    She   added  that  this  is  the  same                                                              
accreditor which oversees the University of Alaska's program.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BALDWIN-SAYRE stated  that the  naturopathic medical  program                                                              
at  NUNM  is  a  four-year  graduate   program,  and  it  includes                                                              
approximately 5,047  hours of education and 1,254  hours of direct                                                              
clinical exposure.   She said that  this program is  comparable to                                                              
the education requirements  for many other medical  providers, and                                                              
admissions    requirements   are    nearly   identical    to   the                                                              
prerequisites  for  any  other   medical  doctor  program  in  the                                                              
country.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BALDWIN-SAYRE  described  the  first two  years  of  academic                                                              
education  at NUNM for  naturopaths, which  includes a  foundation                                                              
in human  sciences and extensive  study in diagnostic  methods and                                                              
procedures.  She   stated  that  students  are  measured   by  the                                                              
biomedical  science national  board  exam.   She  stated that  the                                                              
second   two   years   of  the   program   focuses   on   clinical                                                              
applications,  with courses providing  a framework for  developing                                                              
graduates  into  primary  care physicians.    Students  also  take                                                              
courses  on disease  management  and prevention  using  nutrition,                                                              
lifestyle   counseling,    botanical   medicine,    pharmaceutical                                                              
prescribing, and  minor surgery.   Students complete  nearly 1,300                                                              
hours of  direct clinical  training and  must pass three  hands-on                                                              
clinical examinations  to graduate, and this includes  a full year                                                              
with their  own patient load.   In addition to graduation  from an                                                              
accredited  institution,  to become  eligible  for licensure,  all                                                              
candidates must pass two national board examinations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BALDWIN-SAYRE,  in  summary,  highlighted  that  naturopathic                                                              
medical colleges  prepares  graduates to  be competent, safe,  and                                                              
effective  healthcare providers  who can  assess the primary  care                                                              
needs  of their  patients, particularly  in medically  underserved                                                              
states.     She  advised   that  allowing   naturopaths   to  have                                                              
prescriptive  authority and  the ability  to perform minor  office                                                              
procedures would be  a low risk in relation to  the existing scope                                                              
of their  practice, as this is  well within the confines  of their                                                              
training.   She  added  that this  would help  keep  the cost  for                                                              
patients down, as it avoids multiple office visits.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:45:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLYDE  JENSEN, PhD,  MS,  Professor  of Pharmacology,  College  of                                                              
Osteopathic  Medicine, Rocky  Vista  University, provided  invited                                                              
testimony on  HB 115.  He  shared his credentials,  which includes                                                              
being  a professor  of  naturopathic  medicine.   He  said he  was                                                              
present  today  to  offer  his   expertise.    He  explained  that                                                              
pharmacology  is the  study  of  how drugs  work,  when the  drugs                                                              
should  be used,  and any side  effects  the drugs  may have.   He                                                              
stated   that   medical   professional   study   pharmacology   in                                                              
preparation  for  prescribing  drugs.     He  testified  that  the                                                              
pharmacology   taught  to   medical   doctors,  naturopaths,   and                                                              
osteopaths is  identical in quality,  hours, and intensity.   From                                                              
his experience,  he stated  that he  has an  overview of  not only                                                              
the instruction but how the instruction will be utilized.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:48:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SEAN  HIGGINS,  MD,  Emergency  Room  Physician,  Alaska  Regional                                                              
Hospital, provided  invited testimony on  HB 115.  He  shared that                                                              
before  his practice  in Alaska  he had worked  in Seattle,  where                                                              
naturopaths  are  permitted  to  work in  a  broader  scope  which                                                              
better  represents their  skill set  and training.   He  addressed                                                              
the shortage  in health providers  in Alaska, and he  advised that                                                              
this  results in  more trips  to the  emergency room.   He  stated                                                              
that about 30 percent  of cases seen in emergency  rooms should be                                                              
handled by a primary  care physician, and he listed  many of these                                                              
conditions.   He pointed  out that this  equates to  expensive and                                                              
unnecessary  bills for  patients and  a strain  on emergency  room                                                              
resources and  staff.   He argued that  this is forcing  emergency                                                              
room doctors to  practice primary care, which is  outside of their                                                              
scope  of practice.   He  continued that  allowing naturopaths  to                                                              
practice  to  the extent  of  their  training would  increase  the                                                              
number  of primary  care  givers  in Alaska.    He reiterated  the                                                              
qualifications  of naturopaths.   He noted  that he has  witnessed                                                              
naturopaths  prescribe medications  and  perform minor  procedures                                                              
safely  and effectively  in Washington,  and  he said  that he  is                                                              
"baffled" that they  cannot do this in Alaska.   He referenced the                                                              
preventative medicines that naturopaths provide.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROB  DOWNEY, MD,  Seaworthy Functional  Medicine, South  Peninsula                                                              
Hospital, provided  invited testimony on  HB 115.  He  shared that                                                              
he has  worked alongside  many naturopathic  doctors for  the past                                                              
17 years, and he  conveyed respect in speaking on  behalf of these                                                              
doctors.    He reiterated  naturopaths  are  properly  trained  to                                                              
administer prescription  drugs and  perform minor procedures.   He                                                              
recommended that  the proposed legislation  be passed.   He shared                                                              
that he has been  a medical doctor with 23 years  of experience in                                                              
family practice  and 17 years  of experience providing  functional                                                              
medicine,  which   is  like  naturopathic  medicine   for  medical                                                              
doctors.   He  added  that he  has also  been  a medical  facility                                                              
administrator.   He expressed respect  for his colleagues  who are                                                              
naturopaths in  Alaska.  He noted  the irony in  withholding these                                                              
privileges  from naturopaths,  as these  doctors tend  to be  more                                                              
careful in recommending the use of medication.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR.  DOWNEY estimated  that only  35 percent  of existing  medical                                                              
care needs  are being met in  Alaska.  Referencing the  65 percent                                                              
of  medical  needs  in communities  not  being  met,  he  provided                                                              
examples   of  how   naturopaths   could  help.     He   expressed                                                              
understanding  why members of  the conventional medical  community                                                              
could  be alarmed  by the  proposed legislation,  as this  medical                                                              
community culture  is philosophically  conservative and  "feel the                                                              
safest protecting  the status  quo."   However, he continued  that                                                              
this attitude is  leaving needs unmet, failing  to match available                                                              
resources  with qualified  providers.   He  expressed the  opinion                                                              
that the medical  community would be "relieved"  once this service                                                              
is  witnessed.    He  argued that  it  is  time  for  naturopathic                                                              
doctors  to be  able to  prescribe medicine  and to  do the  minor                                                              
procedures that they are trained for.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  LUPER,  ND, Alaska  Association  of  Naturopathic  Doctors,                                                              
provided  invited testimony  on HB  115.   He stated  that he  has                                                              
been  practicing for  35  years in  the state.    In reference  to                                                              
students  studying  naturopathic  medicine,  he  said  that  these                                                              
students are  required to be  supervised by licensed  naturopathic                                                              
doctors and  medical doctors.   He argued  that the passage  of HB
115 would  bring the  practice of naturopaths  in line  with their                                                              
training  and education,  which is  in primary  care, and  this is                                                              
important because of  the need of primary care  doctors in Alaska.                                                              
He expressed  the opinion  that the  competency of naturopaths  is                                                              
reflected  in the low  rate of  complaints across  the nation  and                                                              
the low  cost of  malpractice insurance  in licensed  states.   He                                                              
said that  the opposition to  the proposed legislation  comes from                                                              
the Alaska State  Medical Association.  He pointed  out that other                                                              
medical  providers, such  as nurse  practitioners and  osteopaths,                                                              
have  all  stood  in  this  same   position  against  the  medical                                                              
association in the state.  He urged the passage of HB 115.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:03:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX thanked  the  committee.   He  said work  was                                                              
done  to provide  documentation  around  the legislation,  and  he                                                              
encouraged members to review these materials.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:04:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that HB 115 was held over.                                                                               

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB186 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 186
HB186 Wage Theft Data.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 186
HB 115 AK Legislative History.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Education and Scope Comparison 2018.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Additional Authority and Responsibilities (002).pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Naturopathic Medicine Presentation v.2 HHSS.3.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Why NDs Deserve Broad Prescriptive Authority (3).pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
House Bill 115 Sponsor Statement Version A.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 AANMC ND, MD-DO, NP What's the Difference.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Fiscal Note DPS-SWS.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 How does naturopathic medicine lower health care costs.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Naturopathic Medicine Presentation v.2 HHSS.3.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
HB 115 Support Omnibus.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
DOLWD Letter to House Labor and Commerce 11.2023.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 186
HB186 Sectional Analysis VersionA.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 186
B.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 Ver B 12.4.2023 PPT.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 Ver B Key Highlights, Summary of Changes 12.4.2023.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB100 Ver B Sectional Analysis 12.1.2023.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100