Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

05/12/2021 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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           HB 109-EXTEND BAR ASS'N BOARD OF GOVERNORS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:22:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   HOLLAND  reconvened   the  meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration  of  HOUSE BILL  NO.  109,  "An Act  extending  the                                                               
termination  date of  the Board  of Governors  of the  Alaska Bar                                                               
Association; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[HB  109  was  previously  heard on  5/5/21  and  5/7/21.  Public                                                               
testimony was opened and closed on 5/5/21.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:22:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER moved  to adopt  Amendment 1,  [work order  32-LS                                                               
0592\A.6].                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                   32-LS0592\A.6                                                                
                                                         Fisher                                                                 
                                                        5/11/21                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OFFERED IN THE SENATE                         BY SENATOR SHOWER                                                                 
     TO:  HB 109                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 6:                                                                                                            
          Delete "2029"                                                                                                     
          Insert "2026"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SHOWER  explained  Amendment   1.  He  stated  that  the                                                               
committee discussed reducing the time  for the next sunset review                                                               
from  eight years  to a  shorter timeframe.  On page  1, line  6,                                                               
Amendment 1 would delete "2029"  and insert "2026" to provide the                                                               
next sunset review in five years.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:23:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND recalled that the  last audit suggested an increase                                                               
in   continuing   legal   education   (CLE).   He   related   his                                                               
understanding that this  would allow the auditors  to revisit the                                                               
CLE  issue.   Amendment  1  would  provide   the  legislature  an                                                               
opportunity to review the board in three years.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER agreed that captured Amendment 1.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:24:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  stated his support  to increase the number  of CLE                                                               
hours  required.  He stated  that  he  has  requested a  bill  to                                                               
require an  increase to CLE hours  to ensure that will  occur. He                                                               
offered his view  that Amendment 1 would take  an otherwise clean                                                               
audit that  recommended the  maximum number  of hours  before the                                                               
next sunset  audit. He  said he  did not think  it was  worth the                                                               
extra cost  to the state to  conduct the audit and  for the board                                                               
to comply with the audit.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:24:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES related  that  there is  a  separation of  powers                                                               
issue with requiring  additional CLE hours because  it would take                                                               
a Court Rule  change and two-thirds vote by  the legislature. She                                                               
said she decided against offering  such an amendment. She pointed                                                               
out that the [Board of Governors  of the Alaska Bar] was aware of                                                               
the issue  in June 2020. The  board met and assigned  a committee                                                               
to  address  the CLE  issue,  which  she  said  she finds  a  bit                                                               
troubling.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:25:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND related  that there  were other  minor performance                                                               
issues, including  properly noticing  public meetings.  He stated                                                               
his support to reduce the sunset  audit to five years. He said he                                                               
would maintain his objection.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:26:00 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  MATT CLAMAN,  Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, sponsor of  HB 109, stated that the House  heard a sunset                                                               
audit  for the  Board of  Certified Direct-Entry  Midwives today.                                                               
The auditors recommended a two-year  extension because there were                                                               
significant problems in the board's  function. It reminded him to                                                               
consider whether  to add  the burden on  auditors since  it might                                                               
require adding additional auditors  and growing state government.                                                               
He suggested that rather than amending  the Court Rule in HB 109,                                                               
to introduce a separate bill  to urge the [Alaska Bar Association                                                               
(Bar)] to change  CLE hours. He offered his view  that this would                                                               
likely  be more  effective  than  to extend  the  Board for  five                                                               
years. He acknowledged he could  not promise what the court would                                                               
do but it is generally  receptive to those changes. He maintained                                                               
that if the  committee's interest were to focus on  CLE, it could                                                               
decide  to  extend the  sunset  audit  review  for the  Board  of                                                               
Governors  of  the Alaska  Bar  Association  to eight  years  and                                                               
address CLE in a separate bill.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:27:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER stated that extending  the board for an additional                                                               
three years  made sense  to him since  the legislature  would not                                                               
likely have time to address another  bill next year and the board                                                               
will sunset  next month.  He suggested  that the  committee could                                                               
potentially hear  another bill  next year, but  it needs  to take                                                               
action now.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:28:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND stated  that the  Senate  Education Committee  had                                                               
similar issues with  SB 111. He suggested that if  the board made                                                               
progress,  he would  be willing  to  extend the  review to  eight                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND maintained his objection.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:29:13 PM                                                                                                                    
A roll call  vote was taken. Senators Shower,  Hughes and Holland                                                               
voted in favor  of Amendment 1 and Senator Myers  and Kiehl voted                                                               
against it. Therefore, Amendment 1 was adopted by a 3:2 vote.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND solicited a motion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:29:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  moved  to  report   HB  109,  as  amended,  from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
note(s).  There  being no  objection,  the  SCS HB  109(JUD)  was                                                               
reported from the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                          

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