Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205
05/12/2021 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY
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HB 109-EXTEND BAR ASS'N BOARD OF GOVERNORS 3:22:34 PM CHAIR HOLLAND reconvened the meeting and announced the consideration of HOUSE BILL NO. 109, "An Act extending the termination date of the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association; and providing for an effective date." [HB 109 was previously heard on 5/5/21 and 5/7/21. Public testimony was opened and closed on 5/5/21.] 3:22:59 PM SENATOR SHOWER moved to adopt Amendment 1, [work order 32-LS 0592\A.6]. 32-LS0592\A.6 Fisher 5/11/21 AMENDMENT 1 OFFERED IN THE SENATE BY SENATOR SHOWER TO: HB 109 Page 1, line 6: Delete "2029" Insert "2026" CHAIR HOLLAND objected for discussion purposes. SENATOR SHOWER explained Amendment 1. He stated that the committee discussed reducing the time for the next sunset review from eight years to a shorter timeframe. On page 1, line 6, Amendment 1 would delete "2029" and insert "2026" to provide the next sunset review in five years. 3:23:33 PM CHAIR HOLLAND recalled that the last audit suggested an increase in continuing legal education (CLE). He related his understanding that this would allow the auditors to revisit the CLE issue. Amendment 1 would provide the legislature an opportunity to review the board in three years. SENATOR SHOWER agreed that captured Amendment 1. 3:24:04 PM SENATOR KIEHL stated his support to increase the number of CLE hours required. He stated that he has requested a bill to require an increase to CLE hours to ensure that will occur. He offered his view that Amendment 1 would take an otherwise clean audit that recommended the maximum number of hours before the next sunset audit. He said he did not think it was worth the extra cost to the state to conduct the audit and for the board to comply with the audit. 3:24:45 PM SENATOR HUGHES related that there is a separation of powers issue with requiring additional CLE hours because it would take a Court Rule change and two-thirds vote by the legislature. She said she decided against offering such an amendment. She pointed out that the [Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar] was aware of the issue in June 2020. The board met and assigned a committee to address the CLE issue, which she said she finds a bit troubling. 3:25:34 PM CHAIR HOLLAND related that there were other minor performance issues, including properly noticing public meetings. He stated his support to reduce the sunset audit to five years. He said he would maintain his objection. 3:26:00 PM REPRESENTATIVE MATT CLAMAN, Alaska State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, sponsor of HB 109, stated that the House heard a sunset audit for the Board of Certified Direct-Entry Midwives today. The auditors recommended a two-year extension because there were significant problems in the board's function. It reminded him to consider whether to add the burden on auditors since it might require adding additional auditors and growing state government. He suggested that rather than amending the Court Rule in HB 109, to introduce a separate bill to urge the [Alaska Bar Association (Bar)] to change CLE hours. He offered his view that this would likely be more effective than to extend the Board for five years. He acknowledged he could not promise what the court would do but it is generally receptive to those changes. He maintained that if the committee's interest were to focus on CLE, it could decide to extend the sunset audit review for the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association to eight years and address CLE in a separate bill. 3:27:40 PM SENATOR SHOWER stated that extending the board for an additional three years made sense to him since the legislature would not likely have time to address another bill next year and the board will sunset next month. He suggested that the committee could potentially hear another bill next year, but it needs to take action now. 3:28:33 PM CHAIR HOLLAND stated that the Senate Education Committee had similar issues with SB 111. He suggested that if the board made progress, he would be willing to extend the review to eight years. 3:29:05 PM CHAIR HOLLAND maintained his objection. 3:29:13 PM A roll call vote was taken. Senators Shower, Hughes and Holland voted in favor of Amendment 1 and Senator Myers and Kiehl voted against it. Therefore, Amendment 1 was adopted by a 3:2 vote. CHAIR HOLLAND solicited a motion. 3:29:43 PM SENATOR SHOWER moved to report HB 109, as amended, from committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s). There being no objection, the SCS HB 109(JUD) was reported from the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.
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