Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106
03/04/2022 08:00 AM House EDUCATION
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| HB48 | |
| HB350 | |
| HB108 | |
| Adjourn |
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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| *+ | HB 350 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 108 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 48 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HB 108-CONCURRENT SECONDARY & TRADE SCHOOL
9:16:58 AM
CO-CHAIR STORY announced that the final order of business would
be HOUSE BILL NO. 108, "An Act relating to concurrent vocational
education, training, and on-the-job trade experience programs
for students enrolled in public secondary schools; relating to
child labor; and providing for an effective date."
9:17:47 AM
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM moved to adopt Amendment 1 to HB 108,
labeled 32-LS0345\G.2, Marx, 2/8/22, which read as follows:
Page 5, line 30, following "(18)":
Insert "collaborate with school districts to"
Page 6, line 9:
Delete "The department"
Insert "A school district"
Page 6, line 14:
Delete "The department"
Insert "A school district"
Page 7, line 2, following "department":
Insert "or the school district"
Page 7, line 3, following "department":
Insert "or school district"
Page 7, line 7:
Delete "department"
Insert "school district"
Page 7, lines 8 - 9:
Delete "The department shall annually compile,
provide to school districts, and publish on the
department's"
Insert "A school district shall annually compile
and publish on the school district's"
Page 7, line 11:
Delete "department"
Insert "school district"
Page 7, lines 12 - 14:
Delete all material and insert:
"(b) For each listed program, the school
district shall identify any geographic attendance
restrictions and program availability."
Page 7, line 15:
Delete "The department"
Insert "A school district"
Page 7, line 20:
Delete "department"
Insert "school district"
Page 8, following line 24:
Insert a new section to read:
"Sec. 14.35.130. Definition. In AS 14.35.100 -
14.35.130, "school district" or "district" means a
borough school district, a city school district, or a
regional educational attendance area."
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS objected for the purposed of discussion.
9:18:00 AM
The committee took an at-ease from 9:18 a.m. to 9:21 a.m.
9:21:08 AM
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM asked to hear from the bill sponsor
regarding the changes proposed under Amendment 1.
9:21:34 AM
REPRESENTATIVE KEN MCCARTY, Alaska State Legislature, as prime
sponsor, announced that Amendment 1 changes the language in HB
108 to allow school districts an active role in decision making,
contracting, and connecting with instructors [for career and
technical education (CTE), training, and on-the-job programs].
He stated that the amendment moves the responsibility from DEED
to the school districts.
9:22:36 AM
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY, in response to Co-Chairs Story and
Drummond, confirmed that Amendment 1 would allow DEED to
collaborate with the school districts to provide opportunities
[for CTE programs]. He continued to elaborate on the changes in
the bill, stating that the districts have asked to be involved
because they know the resources in the region better than DEED.
He stated that if school districts made their own [CTE]
contracts, the process would be less expensive.
9:25:53 AM
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND questioned whether shifting responsibility
from DEED to the school districts "in every instance" would
reduce the fiscal note. She stated that there is around a
$400,000 fiscal note in the first year and $600,000 to $900,000
in the "out years" from DEED.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY offered his understanding that from the
discussion last year there may be a zero fiscal note. He stated
that DEED will wait for that committee's decision on the
amendment before making the fiscal note, as it may contain
regulation changes. He stated he believes the new fiscal note
would be far less than what is reflected in the current fiscal
note.
9:27:16 AM
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY, in response to a question from
Representative Hopkins, stated that he believes all school
districts would like to be part of the contracting decisions.
In response to a follow-up question, he stated that he
communicated with the districts via Internet, telephone, and
people coming into the office. He stated he felt school
districts were apprehensive about HB 108, and Amendment 1 will
gather more support for the bill [by giving school districts
more involvement establishing CTE programs].
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS referenced the section of the amendment
on page 7, lines 8 and 9, that switches the program publication
requirement from DEED to the school districts. He questioned
whether DEED should be an intermediary for program ideas, or
each school district should develop its own programs.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY stated that some school districts became
concerned by a possible [DEED] requirement for districts to
provide [multiply standardized CTE] programs. The amendment
enables school districts to offer specific programs to their
region. In response to a follow-up question, he stated program
publication within districts enables local students and families
to be a part of regional programs. He added this will enable
schools to have "bragging rights" on the new careers of alumni.
9:31:00 AM
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS withdrew his objection. There being no
further objection, Amendment 1 to HB 108 was adopted.
9:31:21 AM
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM moved to adopt Amendment 2 to HB 108,
labeled 32-LS0345\G.3, Marx, 2/8/22, which read as follows:
Page 6, line 8:
Delete "from nonsectarian agencies"
Page 6, line 14:
Delete all material.
Reletter the following subsection accordingly.
9:31:27 AM
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS objected for the purpose of discussion.
9:32:06 AM
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY stated, per the Alaska State
Constitution, DEED cannot give funds directly to a sectarian
school or organization. He explained that in some villages
there may be a sectarian school or organization offering [CTE]
programs. If the public school would like to offer that CTE
program, the district could contract with that sectarian school
or organization. He stated that this would not entail sectarian
belief in the classroom.
9:32:49 AM
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS inquired whether Representative McCarty
had obtained legal analysis from Legislative Legal Services
about credit being earned from a sectarian institution.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY stated that the school credit comes from
the public school that has contracted with a sectarian school or
organization with onsite training. He stated that he learned
from Legislative Legal Services many examples of indirect funds
that follow students to the different schools, as a student with
a state scholarship for post-secondary education may attend a
sectarian university. He explained that the sectarian school
would not receive money directly. In response to a follow-up
question, he stated that school districts can contract with a
sectarian school or organization for CTE if the instructor at
that entity has a Type M Certificate.
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS expressed his confusion and speculated
whether DEED would supply a Type M Certificate to an individual
who is not a school district employee but a sectarian school
employee.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY stated his understanding is to allow
school districts latitude to contract and offer CTE programs
with all entities in their region. He continued that this
requires instructors to have a Type M Certificate before being
contracted, per the language of the bill.
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS established that the language initially
in the bill specified nonsectarian agencies, but now the
amendment takes out the language. He then questioned if
Legislative Legal Services initially put in the language or
whether it was the request of the sponsor.
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY responded that during the original draft
of the bill Legislative Legal Services referenced the Alaska
State Constitution in its recommendation to include the
language. He stated that school districts requested more
latitude [establishing CTE programs], and they asked to have the
language removed.
9:37:42 AM
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS maintained his objection to Amendment 2
to HB 108, explaining that if Legislative Legal Services
included language due to constitutional concerns, he believes
the language should remain in the bill. He stated he is
apprehensive to "open doors" that would impact the constitution.
He stated he strongly supports the concept of the legislation to
avail avenues for apprenticeships and on-the-job training, but
due to constitutional concerns he maintains his objection.
9:38:31 AM
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND expressed confusion regarding Amendment 2,
remarking that a nonsectarian organization is not associated
with a religion or a church, so a college, a trade school, or
another nonunion association may or may not offer classes. She
stated she would like to divide the question. She argued that
the first part of the amendment does not make sense with the
second part. She stated she does not understand the removal of
"nonsectarian agencies" on line 8 or the removal of line 14.
She stated her objection to Amendment 2.
9:39:56 AM
The committee took an at-ease from 9:40 a.m. to 9:41 a.m.
9:41:41 AM
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM withdrew his motion to adopt Amendment 2
to HB 108.
9:41:47 AM
The committee took an at-ease from 9:41 a.m. to 9:43 a.m.
9:43:07 AM
CO-CHAIR STORY announced that HB 108 was held over.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 108 support 030222.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 108 |
| HB 48 support 030222.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
|
| HB 350 Bill Packet.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB 350 ASD Bond Debt vs Facility Backlog.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB 350 FN Debt Service.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB 108 Amendment 1 HEDU.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 108 |
| HB 108 Amendment 2 HEDU.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 108 |
| HB 350 Supporting Docs.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB 350 Sectional.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB 350 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB0350A.PDF |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB 350 3.4.2022 (H)EDC Hearing DEED Follow-Up.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 350 |
| HB 48 support 030222.pdf |
HEDC 3/4/2022 8:00:00 AM |
HB 48 |