Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

04/26/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 105 SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 105(EDC) Out of Committee
+= HB 106 TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 106 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 111 EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
          HB 106-TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:51:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 106, "An  Act authorizing lump sum payments for                                                               
certain  teachers as  retention and  recruitment incentives;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:51:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  opened  public  testimony on  HB  106.    After                                                               
ascertaining that  there was  no one who  wished to  testify, she                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:52:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:52 a.m. to 8:54 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:54:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1                                                               
to HB 106.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:54:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:54:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  stated  that  the  language  has  been                                                               
incorporated  to allow  Legislative  Legal Services  to make  any                                                               
conforming  changes to  Conceptual  Amendment 1.   She  explained                                                               
that  the  conceptual  amendment   would  remove  the  three-year                                                               
requirement and make  the lump sum payment to  certain teachers a                                                               
permanent feature of  the system.  She continued  that this would                                                               
allow teachers  who commit to  teaching in Alaska to  receive the                                                               
payments without an end date.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:55:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY  noted  that  Conceptual  Amendment  1  may                                                               
dramatically change the fiscal note.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:55:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT stated that there is not a fiscal note.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:56:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI TESHNER,  Acting Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                               
Early  Development, answered  questions regarding  the discussion                                                               
on the  fiscal note.   She said that  the $57.9 million  per year                                                               
would be the funding grant total for the teacher incentive pay.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:56:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  explained  that  the  purpose  of  the                                                               
amendment  would  be  to  take  a  "good"  idea  and  make  it  a                                                               
"permanent" idea.   She expressed  the opinion that the  state is                                                               
not competitive  enough with teachers'  wages, and this  would be                                                               
one way to increase the pay,  "and keep it there."  She expressed                                                               
the concern that the existing  retirement system does not require                                                               
teachers  to  stay  more  than  five years,  so  having  a  raise                                                               
incentive which only lasts three years does not help.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:57:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY  recalled that the  purpose of the  bill was                                                               
to do  a pilot program  for three  years and determine  whether a                                                               
raise would influence retention.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER  responded that this is  correct.  The intent  of the                                                               
bill  is to  create a  study  to see  if this  is something  that                                                               
improves retention.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:58:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  expressed the  opinion that the  ability to                                                               
raise  teacher pay  indefinitely is  needed.   She confirmed  her                                                               
support for the amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:59:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE  expressed  appreciation for  the  amendment;                                                               
however, HB  106 was designed to  be a pilot program,  and it may                                                               
not be the appropriate way to  raise pay for teachers.  He stated                                                               
he would not support the amendment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:00:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  questioned how  it would  be determined                                                               
whether the three-year incentive worked.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHER responded  it would be learned through  the process of                                                               
collecting and reporting data.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:01:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  offered his  opinion that it  is not  a good                                                               
idea to negotiate salaries through the "central authority."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:02:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  pointed  out  that when  unions  are  involved,                                                               
teachers' salaries  are not  negotiated, it  is done  through the                                                               
school  districts.   She  offered her  belief  this is  something                                                               
individual  districts  must  do.     She  expressed  support  for                                                               
incentives; however, she argued that the bill is good "as is."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:02:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  voiced  that  Conceptual  Amendment  1                                                               
could have  been a little  different; however, she  expressed the                                                               
concern that  there is no fiscal  note or study after  the three-                                                               
year  period.   She expressed  the idea  this incentive  could be                                                               
used by districts as a recruiting tool.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:02:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX maintained his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:03:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll   call  vote  was  taken.     Representatives  McCormick,                                                               
Himschoot, and Story voted in  favor of Conceptual Amendment 1 to                                                               
HB  106.   Representatives  Prax,  McKay,  Allard, and  Ruffridge                                                               
voted against  it.  Therefore,  Conceptual Amendment 1  failed to                                                               
be adopted by a vote of 3-4.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:03:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:03 a.m. to 9:04 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:04:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 2                                                               
to HB 106.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT spoke  to  Conceptual  Amendment 2  and                                                               
related her  experiences as a teacher.   She said in  addition to                                                               
teachers, there  are shortages in  support staff;  therefore, she                                                               
wanted  to open  the  idea up  to  include paraprofessionals  and                                                               
support staff in the proposed legislation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:05:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY opined  that the  proposed amendment  has a                                                               
similar problem  to Conceptual Amendment  1, in that there  is no                                                               
fiscal note to estimate additional costs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:05:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY offered her belief  that, for students to do                                                               
well,  it  is important  to  have  consistent help  from  support                                                               
staff.  She  opined that the amendment would be  a good incentive                                                               
and  investment in  Alaska's resources,  even  though the  fiscal                                                               
note would increase.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:06:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  commented   that  adding  paraprofessionals                                                               
would increase the risk of passing nothing "if we push too far."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:07:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT expressed the  opinion that the best way                                                               
to  increase  salaries  is  an   increase  in  the  base  student                                                               
allocation (BSA),  but since this  is uncertain,  the [amendment]                                                               
would be  one way to  make sure  staff are incentivized  to stay,                                                               
while increasing recruitment  for districts.  She  brought up the                                                               
example when  the Department  of Law made  a 20  percent increase                                                               
for  staff,  and now  it  has  the  lowest  vacancy rate  of  any                                                               
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:08:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX maintained his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:08:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll   call  vote  was  taken.     Representatives  McCormick,                                                               
Himschoot, and Story voted in  favor of Conceptual Amendment 2 to                                                               
HB  106.   Representatives  Allard,  Prax,  McKay, and  Ruffridge                                                               
voted against  it.  Therefore,  Conceptual Amendment 2  failed to                                                               
be adopted by a vote of 3-4.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:08:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE moved  to report HB 106 out  of committee with                                                               
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:09:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK  objected.   He stated that  he supports                                                               
HB  106, but  offered his  belief  that it  would not  be a  good                                                               
replacement for  an increase in BSA.   He noted that  this is not                                                               
supported  by educators  in Bethel,  as they  would support  good                                                               
benefits and an increase to BSA.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK removed his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:09:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  objected and concurred  with Representative                                                               
McCormick's  comments.   In order  to thrive,  she expressed  the                                                               
opinion  that  working  conditions  are  important  for  Alaska's                                                               
teachers and  students; therefore,  the state  must keep  up with                                                               
increasing costs.   She  added that  local control  is important.                                                               
She briefly  mentioned the practices other  states have attempted                                                               
to adopt.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY removed her objection.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT objected  because this  would create  a                                                               
difficult  position.     She   acknowledged  that   teachers  are                                                               
underpaid,  and  anytime there  is  a  chance to  increase  their                                                               
salaries, it  should be  done.   She suggested that  a way  to do                                                               
this would  be to  fund BSA  and provide  increases on  a regular                                                               
basis to fund the schools and salaries.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:12:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD offered her support  for teachers but argued that                                                               
there is  no guarantee  that BSA  would increase  their salaries.                                                               
She  suggested this  would be  up  to the  individual unions  and                                                               
school  boards.   She  expressed the  belief  that this  increase                                                               
would be  an incentive  and a recruitment  tool.   She reiterated                                                               
her strong support for HB 106.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:13:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT maintained her objection.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken.    Representatives Story,  Allard,                                                               
Prax, McCormick,  McKay, Himschoot, and Ruffridge  voted in favor                                                               
of  reporting HB  106  from  committee.   Therefore,  HB 106  was                                                               
reported out of the House  Education Standing Committee by a vote                                                               
of 7-0.                                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB105 Amendment 2.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 4.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 3.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB 105 CS VerB.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 1.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105