Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

05/17/2025 10:00 AM House FINANCE


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HOUSE BILL NO. 104                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An   Act  creating   and  relating   to  the   address                                                                    
     confidentiality   program;   and   providing   for   an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:07:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked the sponsor to introduce the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DONNA MEARS, SPONSOR, introduced the bill                                                                        
with prepared remarks:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     There's a  small but important  group of people  in the                                                                    
     state that have reasons to  keep their addresses out of                                                                    
     the  public record.  This includes  peace officers  and                                                                    
     correctional   officers   who   may   be   targets   of                                                                    
     retribution due  to their roles in  the justice system.                                                                    
     It   also  includes   victims  of   domestic  violence,                                                                    
     stalking,  sexual assault,  and other  people who  have                                                                    
     protective orders.  The purpose of a  program like this                                                                    
     is to allow someone who  faces these serious threats to                                                                    
     be able  to participate fully in  everyday life without                                                                    
     further  endangering themselves  or their  families. HB
     104   creates  an   address   protection  program   for                                                                    
     survivors  of  sexual  assault and  domestic  violence,                                                                    
     peace  officers,   correctional  officers,   and  their                                                                    
     families.  There  are many  times  an  address must  be                                                                    
     provided  in  order  to participate  in  society.  This                                                                    
     includes voting,  working, sending children  to school,                                                                    
     and  much more.  HB 104  establishes a  program whereby                                                                    
     these  at  risk  individuals  can  receive  mail  at  a                                                                    
     centralized, anonymized P.O. box.  Mail received by the                                                                    
     state on behalf of enrollees  will then be forwarded to                                                                    
     participants   home   address,    which   will   remain                                                                    
     confidential under penalty of law.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mears asked her staff to provide a sectional                                                                     
analysis of the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:09:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TALIA EAMES, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE DONNA MEARS, reviewed                                                                        
the sectional analysis (copy on file):                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 1: Adds the program to the duties of the                                                                              
     Department of Administration.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 2: Creates the program.                                                                                               
          (b)  requires a  Post Office  Box as  a substitute                                                                    
          mailing  address for  enrollees and  instructs the                                                                    
          department  to forward  mail  to participants.  It                                                                    
          charges    the    department    with    protecting                                                                    
          confidentiality   and   requires  regulations   to                                                                    
          govern enrollment and withdrawal.                                                                                     
          (c)  describes  eligible  participants  as  people                                                                    
          sheltered  by  a  protective  order  for  domestic                                                                    
          violence,   stalking,  human/sex   trafficking  or                                                                    
          sexual  assault,  and  their  parents,  guardians,                                                                    
          children,  and household  members. It  also admits                                                                    
         peace officers and correctional officers.                                                                              
          (d)   prevents  registered   sex  offenders   from                                                                    
          enrolling in the program.                                                                                             
          (e)  requires  state  and  municipal  agencies  to                                                                    
          accept the P.O. Box.                                                                                                  
          (f) describes the eligibility period.                                                                                 
          (g)prevents the department from charging a fee.                                                                       
          (h)allows   access   to   confidential   addresses                                                                    
          subject to a search warrant.                                                                                          
          (i)establishes penalties  for unlawfully revealing                                                                    
          a protected individual's address.                                                                                     
          (j)defines certain terms.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 3: Establishes a transition period for the                                                                            
     department to adopt regulations to implement the                                                                           
     program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 4: Lets the department begin promulgating                                                                             
     regulations immediately.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 5: Sets an effective date of Jan. 1, 2026 for the                                                                     
     rest of the bill.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:11:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mears provided more  context for who the bill                                                                    
aimed  to help.  She explained  it pertained  to individuals                                                                    
who  were doing  various things  to protect  their locations                                                                    
such  as  moving  and anonymizing  their  voter  records  in                                                                    
places the  option was available.  She explained  that there                                                                    
was not  the ability to  be anonymous in other  places where                                                                    
individuals  needed  to  protect their  identity.  The  bill                                                                    
would provide additional layers  in order for individuals to                                                                    
be safe. She detailed that  an individual could be anonymous                                                                    
with  their address  by obtaining  a  P.O. box,  but if  the                                                                    
individual  was being  stalked  and they  moved  to a  small                                                                    
community, just  knowing the community  a person  was living                                                                    
in would  be a threat to  their safety. She noted  there was                                                                    
invited testimony to help provide more context.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:13:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KEELY OLSON,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, STANDING  TOGETHER AGAINST                                                                    
RAPE  (STAR), ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),  testified in                                                                    
support  of the  bill. She  considered it  to be  a critical                                                                    
piece of legislation. She read from prepared remarks:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Prior to  working at  STAR, I have  worked as  a victim                                                                    
     advocate  with  the  prosecuting attorney's  office  in                                                                    
     Washington  State  and   managed  a  domestic  violence                                                                    
     shelter  program in  Montana. Both  states had  address                                                                    
     confidentiality  programs, which  were essential  tools                                                                    
     used  by  victim  advocates   to  assist  someone  with                                                                    
     stalking  or  highly bodily  risk  to  be safer.  These                                                                    
     efforts   were  combined   with  comprehensive   safety                                                                    
     planning  and emergency  relocation plans.  The address                                                                    
     confidentiality  program  helps  save lives  and  helps                                                                    
     survivors cope with the constant  fear of their address                                                                    
     being  compromised.   I  applaud  making   the  program                                                                    
     accessible  to law  enforcement and  peace officers.  I                                                                    
     have worked  with those in  law enforcement  who either                                                                    
     go by a  different professional name or to  try to keep                                                                    
     their locations from being searched.  I know people who                                                                    
     work in the  public sector who placed their  homes in a                                                                    
     family   member's  name   to  protect   their  address,                                                                    
     particularly in  places where residential  property can                                                                    
     easily be  searched, and people can  be located through                                                                    
     that.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Olson  thanked Representative  Mears for  sponsoring the                                                                    
legislation. She  explained that  it was  not a  program for                                                                    
everyone. She noted  it was not a substitute for  a P.O. box                                                                    
for example. She added that it  was not convenient as it was                                                                    
her  understanding  that  only  first class  mail  could  be                                                                    
transferred. She  shared that  in the  30-plus years  of her                                                                    
domestic violence and sexual assault  advocacy, she had only                                                                    
worked with  a handful  of people  who were  appropriate for                                                                    
the  address confidentiality  program.  She elaborated  that                                                                    
the program was beneficial  for individuals whose lives were                                                                    
uprooted sometimes repeatedly in  their efforts to escape an                                                                    
obsessed  stalker.  Usually, the  stalker  was  a person  of                                                                    
means  who  was  able  to hire  private  investigators.  She                                                                    
expounded  that the  stalker may  have moved  on with  their                                                                    
life and  have another relationship, but  they were obsessed                                                                    
with  the  particular  person.  The  stalker  hired  private                                                                    
investigators   to  surveil   the  person's   immediate  and                                                                    
extended family  members, they scoured  the social  media of                                                                    
the  person's  friends  and   manipulated  and  tricked  the                                                                    
friends  into  providing   information  about  the  victim's                                                                    
location. She  explained that  the stalker  did not  give up                                                                    
and  was not  dissuaded  when the  victim  moved to  another                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Olson  explained that in  domestic violence  shelters it                                                                    
was not unusual for a  victim to be transferred from another                                                                    
state to  escape stalking. She  highlighted that  there were                                                                    
certain things  that made people particularly  vulnerable in                                                                    
Alaska,  such as  property owners,  voter registration,  and                                                                    
DMV. She  noted that the  program would not be  suitable for                                                                    
someone with  shared custody agreements or  where continuing                                                                    
contact was  forced on  a person by  the court.  She relayed                                                                    
that  children were  a liability  in  the situation  because                                                                    
they could be  forced or manipulated into  sharing a private                                                                    
location.  She thanked  the committee  for its  attention to                                                                    
the  matter.   She  reiterated   her  support   and  greatly                                                                    
appreciated  the committee's  work  to  increase safety  for                                                                    
survivors   of  domestic   violence,  sexual   assault,  and                                                                    
stalking.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:17:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster moved to the next invited testifier.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEREK  BOS, CHIEF  OF POLICE,  CITY AND  BOROUGH OF  JUNEAU,                                                                    
JUNEAU  (via   teleconference),  spoke   in  favor   of  the                                                                    
legislation,  which created  an  address protection  program                                                                    
for survivors  of sexual  assault, domestic  violence, peace                                                                    
officers,  correctional  officers,  and their  families.  He                                                                    
read from prepared remarks:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     As a  law enforcement officer, I  have witnessed first-                                                                    
     hand the trauma sustained  by victims of sexual assault                                                                    
     and domestic violence. That  trauma is only exacerbated                                                                    
     when  they  are   stalked,  harassed,  and  continually                                                                    
     targeted  by  the  offenders  who  initially  assaulted                                                                    
     them.    Address    confidentiality   protects    these                                                                    
     individuals  from further  victimization. Further,  law                                                                    
     enforcement  officers  are  frequently  the  target  of                                                                    
     unwanted    harassment,    stalking,    and    physical                                                                    
     retaliation  by  offenders,   offenders'  families,  or                                                                    
     arbitrary  members of  the public  who  are just  angry                                                                    
     with law  enforcement in general. As  a law enforcement                                                                    
     officer,  I  have  personally experienced  this.  There                                                                    
     have  been  multiple  occasions  throughout  my  career                                                                    
     where I  have been  targeted at  my home,  by offenders                                                                    
     whom I  have arrested. There have  been other occasions                                                                    
     where random members  of the public who  are angry with                                                                    
     police  in general,  who have  no relationship  with me                                                                    
     whatsoever, have come  to my home intent  on causing me                                                                    
     physical harm, just because I  am a police officer. Far                                                                    
     worse,  there  have  been   other  occasions  in  which                                                                    
     dangerous individuals  have come to my  home, intent on                                                                    
     causing harm to my  family, targeting them because they                                                                    
     are related to me. They've  done this as a means simply                                                                    
     to retaliate  against me. My  family has  been innocent                                                                    
     in all of this.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     I would  also like to highlight  the 2013 assassination                                                                    
     of  the Colorado  Department  of Corrections  Executive                                                                    
     Director  Tom Clements  who was  targeted  by a  prison                                                                    
     gang and  murdered at his  home in the presence  of his                                                                    
     family because of his position.  Home should be a place                                                                    
     of peace  and relaxation. Coming  home should not  be a                                                                    
     thing  that  triggers  stress,  anxiety,  or  fear.  In                                                                    
     closing,  I  would  like  to  state  that  from  a  law                                                                    
     enforcement  officer's perspective,  House Bill  104 is                                                                    
     pivotal for supporting the safety  of our survivors and                                                                    
     victims  of  sexual  abuse,  domestic  violence,  human                                                                    
     trafficking, as well as  essential for enhancing safety                                                                    
     of our  law enforcement  and correctional  officers who                                                                    
     protect  our communities  day in  and  day out.  Again,                                                                    
     thank  you  very  much  for  letting  me  testify  this                                                                    
     morning.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:20:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LAUREE MORTON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ALASKA NETWORK ON DOMESTIC                                                                      
VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT, JUNEAU, read from prepared                                                                         
remarks:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you  for the  opportunity to  testify on  HB 104,                                                                    
     Address  Confidentiality  Program.  My name  is  Lauree                                                                    
     Morton. I'm the Deputy  Director for the Alaska Network                                                                    
     on   Domestic   Violence   and  Sexual   Assault;   the                                                                    
     membership  organization   of  domestic   violence  and                                                                    
     sexual assault response  service providers. The Network                                                                    
     supports HB 104  and thanks Rep. Mears  for bringing it                                                                    
     forward.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Address confidentiality  programs are one tool  in part                                                                    
     of a  larger safety plan. Safety  planning will explore                                                                    
     the necessity of subscribing to  the program and afford                                                                    
     the  victim an  opportunity  to  balance the  potential                                                                    
     gains in participating, against any detriments.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Violence  frequently escalates  when people  who choose                                                                    
     to cause  harm believe they  are losing control  of the                                                                    
     victim.   One of the  most dangerous times  for victims                                                                    
     is  when   they  attempt  to  leave.   If  victims  are                                                                    
     successful in  escaping, the  person causing  harm will                                                                    
     usually  focus  energy  on  finding  and  stalking  the                                                                    
     victim;  often searching  public  records  for the  new                                                                    
     address.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Stalking can include tactics like:                                                                                         
        • Sending unwanted letters or emails                                                                                  
        • Following or spying on the victim                                                                                   
        • Driving by or waiting around at places frequented                                                                   
          by the victim such as home, work, or school                                                                           
        • Leaving or sending unwanted items, "presents", or                                                                   
          flowers for the victim to find                                                                                        
        • Looking through the victim's property such as                                                                       
          trash cans, mail, or cars.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Stalking  increases   the  risk  of   intimate  partner                                                                    
     homicide  by  three  times.  Among  female  victims  of                                                                    
     attempted  and completed  intimate partner  homicide by                                                                    
     male partners,  in the 12  months prior to  the attack:                                                                    
     85  percent of  attempted and  76 percent  of completed                                                                    
     homicide victims were stalked.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  address   confidentiality  program   will  provide                                                                    
     enhanced  safety   options  for  survivors.   Will  the                                                                    
     program be  used frequently?   I think it will  be used                                                                    
     occasionally  when the  circumstances are  extreme, the                                                                    
     danger  real, and  secrecy is  critical  to a  victim's                                                                    
     survival.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     We appreciate  the ability given  to the  department to                                                                    
     set  standards in  addition to  protective orders  when                                                                    
     making  enrollment  decisions.   There  are  times  and                                                                    
     situations where protective orders  are not in the best                                                                    
     interest of the victim,  when lethality is particularly                                                                    
     high and  providing information through  the protective                                                                    
     order  is  considered  placing the  victim  at  greater                                                                    
     risk.  In   such  situations  it  will   be  even  more                                                                    
     beneficial  to  allow  the  victim  to  enroll  in  the                                                                    
     address confidentiality program.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Thank  you for  taking public  testimony today  and for                                                                    
     your  thoughtful  consideration   in  moving  the  bill                                                                    
     forward.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:24:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard stated  that she thought HB  104 was a                                                                    
good bill, but  she was not happy with the  fiscal note. She                                                                    
directed   a  question   to  Chief   Bos.  She   provided  a                                                                    
hypothetical  scenario where  a person  on the  sex offender                                                                    
registry was being  stalked. She wondered if  under the bill                                                                    
the individual's address could be confidential.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chief Bos asked for clarity on the question.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard stated  she  was asking  about a  sex                                                                    
offender.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Chief Bos replied  that a sex offender was  not eligible for                                                                    
the address confidentiality program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  thanked Chief  Bos for  his testimony                                                                    
and work for Juneau.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie  stated that many survivors  went back                                                                    
to  their  home communities  to  reconnect  with family  and                                                                    
cultural traditions. She asked  how the program ensured they                                                                    
could do so without compromising their safety.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:27:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mears answered that  if someone was returning                                                                    
to their  home community, their  mail could go to  a central                                                                    
address rather  that indicating they  had returned  to their                                                                    
home  community.  She  explained  it would  be  a  P.O.  Box                                                                    
located likely in Juneau or  Anchorage so that it may appear                                                                    
the individual was still living somewhere else.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie asked about rural communities.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mears replied  that  the P.O.  box would  be                                                                    
centralized in a larger city  like Juneau or Anchorage so it                                                                    
would appear an individual's mail  was going there. Once the                                                                    
mail was  collected by the state  it would be mailed  out to                                                                    
an  individual's  confidential   address.  The  individual's                                                                    
actual address was  protected by the state so  that it would                                                                    
appear perhaps, they  were living wherever the  P.O. box was                                                                    
located.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Jimmie asked  what resources  were in  place                                                                    
for individuals  to access programs if  they were struggling                                                                    
financially after relocating.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mears   replied  that   she  did   not  have                                                                    
information  on hand  about other  available resources.  She                                                                    
relayed  that  the  program  would   not  cost  anything  to                                                                    
survivors.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Jimmie   asked   how  the   program   would                                                                    
coordinate  with local  tribe  councils  and victim  service                                                                    
organizations to connect survivors with the service.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Eames  replied the fiscal  note included money  for some                                                                    
advertising  working with  different  programs, which  would                                                                    
include  heads  of  communities, often  tribal  councils  in                                                                    
rural communities.  She added  that one  of the  reasons the                                                                    
bill was important for remote  communities was that in small                                                                    
villages, all  a person  had to know  was what  community an                                                                    
individual was in  and the first person on  the street could                                                                    
tell someone  exactly where the  individual was  living. The                                                                    
centralized  P.O.   box  would  be  located   in  Juneau  or                                                                    
Anchorage  and  mail would  be  forwarded  to the  community                                                                    
without mention of the community name.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   noted  that  the  meeting   would  recess                                                                    
shortly. He asked if any  committee members had questions to                                                                    
the three testifiers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  directed  a question  to  Chief                                                                    
Bos. He  shared that he  went out knocking  on constituents'                                                                    
doors and  felt safer with  an officer in  the neighborhood.                                                                    
He understood  that sometimes police officers  were required                                                                    
to bring  their police cruisers  home. He asked  there would                                                                    
be  something for  police officers  who were  being targeted                                                                    
where they  did not  have to bring  their cruisers  home and                                                                    
park in front of their house.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Chief Bos  responded that  he could not  speak to  any other                                                                    
agency, but  the Juneau Police  Department (JPD)  would work                                                                    
with  an  officer and  would  not  mandate they  take  their                                                                    
patrol car home or they  would provide them with an unmarked                                                                    
car or  facilitate them driving  a personal car to  work. He                                                                    
elaborated that JPD  would not require an officer  to take a                                                                    
marked  car home  if there  were any  concerns, threats,  or                                                                    
known issues.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  relayed that the committee  would come back                                                                    
to the  bill when the  meeting resumed after  floor session.                                                                    
He reviewed the schedule for the remainder of the meeting.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:32:50 AM                                                                                                                   
RECESSED                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:08:21 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked his staff  to review the  fiscal note                                                                    
for HB 104.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BRODIE   ANDERSON,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   NEAL   FOSTER,                                                                    
reviewed   the   fiscal   note  from   the   Department   of                                                                    
Administration,  OMB component  2333.  The  note included  a                                                                    
request of $297,100 in personal  services, $3,000 in travel,                                                                    
$112,800 for  services, and $10,600  for commodities,  for a                                                                    
total  of $423,500  in FY  26.  The funding  source was  the                                                                    
general fund. The  fiscal note included funding  for two new                                                                    
full-time  positions  in  FY  26.   He  noted  there  was  a                                                                    
fluctuation in  appropriations starting in FY  27, primarily                                                                    
in  the  services  and  commodities  lines.  The  department                                                                    
recognized there would need to  be regulation changes if the                                                                    
bill went into law.  The department highlighted that changes                                                                    
from  previous fiscal  notes resulted  from  an increase  in                                                                    
personal   services,  services,   and  commodities   due  to                                                                    
eligible participants.  The second  page of the  fiscal note                                                                    
explained  that  the  two   positions  included  a  business                                                                    
service projects  manager 2  and an  administrative officer.                                                                    
The  note  included  travel funding  for  the  positions  to                                                                    
attend a  three-day conference  by the  National Association                                                                    
of  Confidential  Address   Programs.  Contractual  services                                                                    
costs were for the estimated  number of participants and the                                                                    
cost of  getting mail to  the participants.  The commodities                                                                    
line included  a startup expense  including the  purchase of                                                                    
equipment.  The  department  noted  that if  the  number  of                                                                    
participants  increased,  the  cost  of  the  program  would                                                                    
increase. He directed detailed questions  on the fiscal note                                                                    
to the department.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:12:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted the Department of  Administration was                                                                    
available online for questions on the fiscal note.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  stated that the fiscal  note changed,                                                                    
but  it  was  her  understanding  the  legislation  had  not                                                                    
changed.  She asked  why the  calculation in  the number  of                                                                    
participants  had  increased  dramatically between  the  two                                                                    
versions of the fiscal note.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRAD  EWING,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  SHARED  SERVICES  OF                                                                    
ALASKA, DEPARTMENT  OF ADMINISTRATION  (via teleconference),                                                                    
relayed that  the department had reviewed  other states with                                                                    
address confidentiality programs  when developing the fiscal                                                                    
note.  He detailed  that the  bill was  broader in  scope in                                                                    
terms  of  eligible  participants  when  compared  to  other                                                                    
states.  He  elaborated  that there  would  likely  be  more                                                                    
participants  in  the  program   due  to  the  inclusion  of                                                                    
correctional  officers and  peace  officers; therefore,  the                                                                    
department had increased the number in the fiscal note.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  what  would  change  for  the                                                                    
department that would drive the cost so high.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ewing answered that an  increased number of participants                                                                    
would increase  postage cost and  supplies for  the program,                                                                    
as  well  as  department staff  working  with  participants,                                                                    
developing  materials, and  engaging  with various  agencies                                                                    
and nonprofits  to help share information  about the program                                                                    
and answer participants' questions.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   asked   if  the   department   was                                                                    
anticipating the participants would  need the same amount of                                                                    
support whether  they were a  survivor of  domestic violence                                                                    
(who the  outreach and services  would be extended to)  or a                                                                    
police  officer (who  likely had  a  clear understanding  of                                                                    
programs and resources).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ewing   replied  that  he   imagined  there   would  be                                                                    
differences  in  the  amount  of work  that  would  go  into                                                                    
engaging with the different  potential participants in terms                                                                    
of  outreach,  training,  and materials.  He  did  not  know                                                                    
exactly what  it would look  like, but he believed  it would                                                                    
be slightly different depending on the participant.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum understood the  intent of the bill that                                                                    
was  trying   to  protect  people  in   bad  situations.  He                                                                    
referenced the inclusion of  peace officers and correctional                                                                    
officers.  He stated  that  extending  protection to  people                                                                    
that may have exposure to people  who may not like what they                                                                    
were  doing would  open the  door up  quite a  bit. He  used                                                                    
officers  of   the  court  and  elected   officials  at  the                                                                    
municipal  and state  level as  examples. He  asked why  the                                                                    
bill was not  constrained only to victims  of sexual assault                                                                    
and domestic violence.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mears replied  that the core of  the bill and                                                                    
the  impetus   was  for   protection  of   individuals  with                                                                    
protective  orders,  which  is where  the  movement  started                                                                    
across  the nation  in many  states. Since  then, there  was                                                                    
recognition that there were other  individuals who could use                                                                    
protection and  there had been advocacy  for police officers                                                                    
and  correctional officers.  She  agreed there  could be  an                                                                    
expansion of the  program, but she supported  expansion as a                                                                    
phase 2.  Under the bill,  there was no fee  to participants                                                                    
and the  number of  potential participants was  unknown. She                                                                    
suggested  that  if  the bill  was  extended  to  additional                                                                    
categories  of individuals,  perhaps a  subscription program                                                                    
could  be established  as many  of  those individuals  would                                                                    
have more [financial] means and a more stable environment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:19:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum thought it would  be better if the bill                                                                    
contained a narrower  window. He did not  intend any offense                                                                    
to police and  correctional officers. He started  it was not                                                                    
generally  a secret  where officers  lived.  He thought  the                                                                    
bill should  be aimed  at protecting individuals  with court                                                                    
orders. He did  not want to extend the  program beyond those                                                                    
individuals  currently, especially  given  the fiscal  note.                                                                    
He asked  what was preventing someone  currently from having                                                                    
their mail delivered somewhere  differently than their home.                                                                    
He stated that many people  in his community and surrounding                                                                    
areas used P.O. boxes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mears shared  a  story  provided by  Senator                                                                    
Jesse  Keihl who  was  carrying the  companion  bill in  the                                                                    
Senate.  Senator  Keihl  knew  a   woman  who  was  under  a                                                                    
protective order and had a P.O.  box. When the woman went to                                                                    
get her  mail, her  stalker was there  waiting for  her. She                                                                    
noted that the woman recognized the  man and was able to get                                                                    
out of  the situation. She highlighted  that particularly in                                                                    
small  communities, the  location of  P.O. boxes  was known.                                                                    
She explained  that if a  person's mail was  being forwarded                                                                    
to a  larger community  like Anchorage  or Juneau  where the                                                                    
mail was  centralized and sent  out, it was not  possible to                                                                    
know where they were.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum   asked  if  the  services   were  not                                                                    
currently available.  He noted  that in his  community there                                                                    
were services  for forwarding mail. For  example, there were                                                                    
many people  who lived out  of state  for half the  year and                                                                    
their mail  received in Alaska was  forwarded. He understood                                                                    
it  was very  important to  try to  protect the  individuals                                                                    
[the  bill  aimed  to  protect],  but  he  wondered  if  the                                                                    
legislation   tried   to   make  solving   a   problem   too                                                                    
complicated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mears responded  that  the  bill applied  to                                                                    
anything that would generate a  public record. She explained                                                                    
that  sometimes  services could  not  be  used because  they                                                                    
required a real address. She asked her staff to elaborate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Eames explained  that there were fees  associated with a                                                                    
post office box  and many times people  fleeing violence did                                                                    
not have  a lot of resources  and had a lot  of other things                                                                    
going  on.   She  explained  that  having   a  program  that                                                                    
centralized  the mail  for them,  so  they did  not have  to                                                                    
think about  that issue, was  significant for people  in the                                                                    
situation.    She   explained    that   under    the   bill,                                                                    
municipalities  had to  accept the  centralized mail.  Under                                                                    
the program, an  individual would be able to  use an address                                                                    
they  would not  otherwise be  able  to use  in a  different                                                                    
situation.  For example,  for  voting purposes,  individuals                                                                    
could have another address they  could put in that otherwise                                                                    
may not  be accepted. She  noted that in villages  where the                                                                    
only way in  was via boat, even if there  was a post office,                                                                    
it  was  not hard  to  find  someone  just by  knowing  what                                                                    
community they were in.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:25:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum asked about the  scope of the number of                                                                    
people the bill aimed at  helping. He remarked that the bill                                                                    
had a pretty big fiscal note  of $400,000 per year and if it                                                                    
was only  aiming to  help a  small group  of people,  he was                                                                    
trying to understand the fiscal  benefit was. He wondered if                                                                    
there was a  way to do something in the  law to make records                                                                    
confidential on  public records. He  thought there may  be a                                                                    
better way to protect  the individuals without creating more                                                                    
bureaucracy in the state. He  highlighted that the state was                                                                    
strained  for funds  and there  were  many agencies  helping                                                                    
people in the situations.  He noted there were organizations                                                                    
directly helping  people in  Alaskan communities  that would                                                                    
help. He wondered if alternatives had been explored.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mears  deferred the  question to  Keely Olson                                                                    
with STAR.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Olson replied  based on her experience  with the address                                                                    
confidentiality programs  she had worked with  in Washington                                                                    
State and  Montana. She explained that  while those programs                                                                    
were  constrained to  domestic violence  and sexual  assault                                                                    
survivors with  protective orders  or a letter  vouching for                                                                    
them  from  a  domestic violence/sexual  assault  agency  or                                                                    
prosecutor's office,  over her  30 years of  experience, she                                                                    
had  only worked  with a  handful of  people who  needed the                                                                    
program. She  elaborated that it  was not a  common response                                                                    
and went  hand in hand  with a  lot of safety  planning. She                                                                    
detailed  that meant  coming up  with  plans for  monitoring                                                                    
one's  safety and  being responsive  to any  kind of  threat                                                                    
including alarm systems, changing  patterns from day to day,                                                                    
and sometimes relocating.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.    Olson   explained    that    the   Montana    address                                                                    
confidentiality program resided in  the secretary of state's                                                                    
office and had two staff  who were the only individuals with                                                                    
access to  the addresses.  The program had  been implemented                                                                    
in 2006  and in  2023 it  had 68  participants with  only 20                                                                    
receiving mail on  a regular basis. The  staff processed the                                                                    
mail and forwarded it to  the confidential address. In 2006,                                                                    
the program cost $50,000 to  implement, with a total cost of                                                                    
$375,000 over the subsequent 17 years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Olson  stated that while  she applauded making  the bill                                                                    
open  to peace  officers and  law enforcement  officers, she                                                                    
believed that as  they found out more  about the constraints                                                                    
of  hiding  their  address  and  potential  relocation  that                                                                    
domestic  violence,  sexual  assault, and  stalking  victims                                                                    
were faced with,  they would not find it  conducive to their                                                                    
daily  lives. She  listed precautions  that someone  who was                                                                    
being   harassed   and   stalked  went   through   including                                                                    
relocating  (sometimes to  a different  community), forgoing                                                                    
voting, registering  their vehicle  with DMV,  social media,                                                                    
and removing  themselves from  their families'  and friends'                                                                    
lives to protect themselves. She  explained that the program                                                                    
did not  replace a P.O.  box that  most people could  get if                                                                    
they wanted  to keep  their address secure.  She underscored                                                                    
that there were people who  would not stop looking for their                                                                    
victims and who would pay  money to have someone surveil and                                                                    
track  their victims.  The  address confidentiality  program                                                                    
was for  those extreme situations.  She did not  believe the                                                                    
fiscal note  matched the  everyday use  of the  program. She                                                                    
reiterated  her earlier  statement that  over 17  years, the                                                                    
Montana program had  68 participants and only  20 people who                                                                    
were receiving mail on a usual  basis. She stated it was her                                                                    
experience with the type of program could and should help.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:32:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked the sponsor for any closing comments.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mears  thanked the committee for  hearing the                                                                    
bill. She was available for questions offline.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  104  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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SB132 Draft Proposed CS ver W.pdf HFIN 5/17/2025 10:00:00 AM
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SB132 Public Testimony-Letter-Fairbanks Chamber 04.04.25.pdf HFIN 5/17/2025 10:00:00 AM
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