Legislature(2023 - 2024)ANCH LIO DENALI Rm

12/05/2023 02:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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            HB 100-PAID FAMILY LEAVE INSURANCE PLAN                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:05:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                              
HOUSE  BILL  NO. 100,  "An  Act  relating  to teacher  and  public                                                              
employee leave."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JENNIE  ARMSTRONG,  Alaska State  Legislature,  as                                                              
prime sponsor,  presented HB 100.   She began by stating  that the                                                              
proposed  bill  would  establish  a  paid  family  leave  plan  in                                                              
Alaska.   She  stated this  would  address many  issues the  state                                                              
faces  regarding the  economy and  workforce.   She expressed  the                                                              
opinion that Alaska  is already a cost-prohibitive  state to raise                                                              
a family, and this  is because of the lack of child  care and paid                                                              
family  leave.   She  added that  Alaska also  has  a high  infant                                                              
mortality rate.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    ARMSTRONG    returned    to    the    PowerPoint                                                              
presentation,  which   she  had  begun  during  the   meeting  [on                                                              
5/1/23],  titled "HB  100, Paid  Family and  Medical Leave"  [hard                                                              
copy included  in the committee packet].   She began on  slide 19,                                                              
which  recapped  the information  on  the  previous slides.    She                                                              
stated  that  the  upcoming  slides would  be  introducing  a  new                                                              
version  of   HB  100,   [labeled  33-LS0480\B,  Klein,   11/8/23,                                                              
("Version B"), which  the committee adopted during  the meeting on                                                              
1/17/24].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG  stated that  an  economic trend  report                                                              
from  December  2023 by  the  Department  of Labor  and  Workforce                                                              
Development  shows that  in  2022 Alaska  had  its tenth  straight                                                              
year of net out  migration.  She suggested that  the out migration                                                              
is specifically  young professionals,  and this is  the population                                                              
who  would  be  starting  new families.    It  was  reported  that                                                              
employers in  the state  are spending 21  percent of  a position's                                                              
salary recruiting  new candidates.  The report  also conveyed that                                                              
there are  two jobs for  every available  worker.  She  urged that                                                              
the state  must address  the question of  how to empower  families                                                              
and the workforce in the future.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG reviewed the  background of  paid family                                                              
leave on  slide 19.   She said that  before 1993 and  the American                                                              
Family Leave  Act (FMLA), there  was no federal  policy addressing                                                              
this.   She pointed out  that currently  the state has  the Alaska                                                              
Family Leave  Act (AFLA), and  this protects jobs  during extended                                                              
absences.   She argued that  establishing paid family  leave would                                                              
help  families remain  in  the state,  as  children would  receive                                                              
better  medical  care  and  mothers  would be  able  to  join  the                                                              
workforce at a faster  rate.  Moving to slide 20,  she stated that                                                              
every state in the  country has, or is in the  process of passing,                                                              
similar legislation.   Except  for the  proposed legislation,  she                                                              
said Alaska  would have  been the  only state  in the country  not                                                              
taking  action.   She  reiterated  that the  proposed  legislation                                                              
would help with  the out migration and also help  recruit families                                                              
to the state.   She stated  that this is important  because Alaska                                                              
has an aging population.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:11:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG stated  that  HB 100,  Version B,  would                                                              
provide  a  "lighter  footprint   and  expanded  coverage."    She                                                              
explained that  this would  be done  by implementing an  insurance                                                              
policy  for employers  to  purchase for  employees.   She  further                                                              
explained the  details of  the policy  as seen on  slide 21.   She                                                              
stated that the  goal with the legislation is to  move the current                                                              
AFLA to a paid  family leave program.  She continued  that Version                                                              
B adds  that this would  be carried into  the private market.   On                                                              
slide 22,  she listed  the proposed  plan's coverage,  as follows:                                                              
18  paid  leave   weeks  for  state  employees;   6-18  weeks  for                                                              
employees  of  political  subdivisions; 6-12  weeks  for  enrolled                                                              
employees of  a participating  private employer;  and 6  weeks for                                                              
an  employee  enrolled  through  the purchasing  pool,  which  she                                                              
noted would  allow every  employee in  the state  to opt  into the                                                              
plan.   She  added  that all  paid  leave would  be  equal to  100                                                              
percent of an  employee's average weekly wage, but  this could not                                                              
exceed $3,000 per week.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:14:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG moved  to slide  23 and discussed  other                                                              
states  in the  country  that  are offering  similar  legislation.                                                              
She  suggested that  this version  would give  the opportunity  to                                                              
have wide  spread public  investment in  an individual  household.                                                              
Referencing  models  in other  states,  she reiterated  that  this                                                              
model has  a small footprint  and a wide  reach.  She  pointed out                                                              
that the  initial version of the  bill had required a  large state                                                              
investment but  would only cover  state employees.  She  said that                                                              
Version  B would  expand  coverage  to the  private  sector.   She                                                              
moved  to slide  24 to  discuss cost/benefit  paid family  medical                                                              
leave.    She   stated  that  because  the   proposed  legislation                                                              
establishes  a state  policy through  an  insurance provider,  the                                                              
insurance provider  would be allowed to extend the  insurance to a                                                              
wider range of Alaskans on an optional basis.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:16:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRISTAN  WALSH,  Staff, Representative  Jennie  Armstrong,  Alaska                                                              
State  Legislature,   on  behalf   of  Representative   Armstrong,                                                              
paraphrased  the sectional analysis  of HB  100, Version  B, [copy                                                              
included in the committee packet], which read as follows:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:                                                                                                                 
       This section amends AS 23.10 to add Article 9, the                                                                       
     Alaska Paid Family Leave Plan to the statues regarding                                                                     
     State Employment Practices and Working Conditions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.700 (a) instructs the commissioner of labor &                                                                     
    workforce   development   and    the   commissioner   of                                                                    
     administration  to jointly procure  a paid family  leave                                                                   
     insurance   plan,  defines   which   employees  may   be                                                                   
     eligible  to  use  it,  and how  they  are  entitled  to                                                                   
     participate.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.700  (b) mandates that the procurement  process                                                                   
     will  be governed  by the  State  of Alaska  Procurement                                                                   
     Code.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.700   (c)  provides  for  evaluation   of  the                                                                   
     responses  for that  procurement, and  requires they  be                                                                   
     filed with the director of insurance for approval.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.700  (d) specifies  that the parameters  of the                                                                   
     plan adopted  by both  departments must include:  length                                                                   
     and time  of open enrollment,  enrollment processes  for                                                                   
     various eligible  employees; and  how premiums  would be                                                                   
     paid or deducted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.700(e)    directs   the   commissioners    of                                                                   
     administration  and  labor  & workforce  development  to                                                                   
     adopt  procedures  for  collection  of  information  and                                                                   
     premiums  from  covered employees  and  transmission  of                                                                   
     such  to the insurer,  and penalties  for late  payments                                                                   
     will be calculated.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.710(a)   specifies   wage   replacement   for                                                                   
     eligible  employees, and  how to  calculate the  average                                                                   
     weekly wage for eligible employees.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.710(b)  specifies the maximum  allowable family                                                                   
     leave eligible  employees may  take. It states  the plan                                                                   
     may not impose a minimum duration.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.710(c)   sets  the   employment   eligibility                                                                   
     requirements for covered employees.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.720(a)  states that a political  subdivision of                                                                   
     the state  or a private employer  may opt into  the paid                                                                   
     family  leave  plan  established  in  AS  23.10.700.  It                                                                   
     states  that  these  entities  shall  contract  directly                                                                   
     with the insurer,  and provides for parameters  on their                                                                   
     participation in the paid family leave plan.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.720(b) requires  that any  premium charged  by                                                                   
     the  insurer to  the  political subdivision  or  private                                                                   
     employer  must  be  actuarially  justified  and  derived                                                                   
     from the state employee premium.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.720(c)   states  that   an   employee  of   a                                                                   
     participating  employer  or  political  subdivision  may                                                                   
     choose to enroll in the plan.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     As 23.10.720(d)  states that  a participating  political                                                                   
     subdivision  or private employer  pay premiums  directly                                                                   
     to the insurer; they may do so via payroll deductions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.720(e) states  that  a participating  employer                                                                   
     with  50 or  more  employees  maintain coverage  in  any                                                                   
     group  health plan at  the level  and conditions  if the                                                                   
     employee  had  stayed  at  work;  it  requires  them  to                                                                   
     restore  the employee  to the  same  or reasonably  same                                                                   
     role  after returning  to work; declares  that they  may                                                                   
     not retaliate  or discriminate  against the employee  if                                                                   
     they  take  family  leave.  This  section  reflects  the                                                                   
     requirements of the national Family Medical Leave Act.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.720(f) states  that  a participating  employer                                                                   
     with fewer  than 50 employees  may collect and  transmit                                                                   
     the  premiums   directly  to  the  insurer  or   to  the                                                                   
     purchasing  pool premium  account; it  states that  they                                                                   
     may deduct the premiums via payroll deductions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.730   (a)  establishes  the   purchasing  pool                                                                   
     premium   account,   and   requires   the   insurer   to                                                                   
     participate in it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     As  23.10.730  (b) allows  an  employee of  a  political                                                                   
     subdivision   or   private   employer  that   does   not                                                                   
     participate  in  the  family   leave  plan  or  offer  a                                                                   
     substantially similar  family leave benefit  to contract                                                                   
     indirectly with an insurer via the purchasing pool.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.730  (c)   allows  that   the  pool  may   be                                                                   
     experience  rated. This  section  establishes a  waiting                                                                   
     period  and   elimination  period,   as  well   as  open                                                                   
     enrollment processes.  It caps the coverage  premiums at                                                                   
     $5 a week.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.730  (d) states  that the  private employer  or                                                                   
     political  subdivision   of  the  state  with   50  more                                                                   
     employees   whose    employee   participates    in   the                                                                   
     purchasing  pool   transfer  that  employees'   premiums                                                                   
     directly  to  the  insurer  via  payroll  deduction.  An                                                                   
     employer  with  less than  50  employees may  pay  those                                                                   
     premiums directly to the purchasing pool.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.730(e)    requires   the   commissioner    of                                                                   
     administration  to  separately  account  for  purchasing                                                                   
     pool premium  payments received  by the department;  and                                                                   
     for payment  of premiums to an insurer  participating in                                                                   
     a family  leave insurance  plan purchasing pool  premium                                                                   
     account.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.740(a)   establishes  the   purchasing   pool                                                                   
     premium   stabilization   account.   It   requires   the                                                                   
     commissioner  of  administration to  account  separately                                                                   
     for  premium  taxes  on family  leave  insurance  plans,                                                                   
     appropriations    made   for    the   purchasing    pool                                                                   
     stabilization,  and  gifts,  grants and  donations  made                                                                   
     for the purpose of stabilizing the purchasing pool.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.740(b)  allows the  legislature to  appropriate                                                                   
     funds  to the purchasing  pool so  that premiums  do not                                                                   
     exceed $5 per week.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AS   23.10.750   (a)  establishes   the   family   leave                                                                   
     insurance  advisory board,  to support the  Commissioner                                                                   
     of  Administration  in  implementing  and  administering                                                                   
     the family leave insurance plans.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.750(b)  directs the  composition of the  family                                                                   
     leave insurance advisory board.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.750(c)  requires the advisory board  to meet at                                                                   
     least quarterly.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.760   declares  that  the  provisions   of  AS                                                                   
     23.10.700-23.10.790 are not subject to                                                                                     
     collective bargaining.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.770  (a) requires  the Department of  Labor and                                                                   
     Workforce   Development,   in   conjunction   with   the                                                                   
     Department  of Administration, to  prepare and  submit a                                                                   
     report  to  the  Legislature  by January  15th  of  each                                                                   
     year.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     AS 23.10.770  (b) directs  the Department  of Labor  and                                                                   
     Workforce Development to work in                                                                                           
     conjunction  with   the  Department  of   Administration                                                                   
     develop   an  outreach  program   to  educate   workers,                                                                   
     families,   and    employers   on   the    benefits   of                                                                   
     participation in the paid family leave program.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.780  directs  that the  Commissioners  of  the                                                                   
     Departments  of  Labor and  Workforce  Development,  and                                                                   
     Commissioner  of Administration,  may issue  regulations                                                                   
     to implement AS 23.10.700-23.10.790.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     AS  23.10.790 is  the definitions  section for  specific                                                                   
     terms in AS 23.10.700-23.10.790.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:                                                                                                                 
     This  section  amends  Chapter 39  Public  Officers  and                                                                   
     Employees pay  and compensation, for conforming  changes                                                                   
     under Section 1.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AS 39.20.305(a)  is amended to allow an employee  of the                                                                   
     state to  take paid family  leave. This is  a conforming                                                                   
     change.  The  state  may not  require  the  employee  to                                                                   
     substitute accrued  paid leave to which the  employee is                                                                   
     entitled.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3:                                                                                                                 
     This  section  establishes  parameters  for  the  Alaska                                                                   
     Paid Family Leave Plan for state employees.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AS  39.20.500(b)  is  amended   to  reflect  that  state                                                                   
     employees are  entitled to paid family leave;  because a                                                                   
     political subdivision  may choose  to opt in or  not, an                                                                   
     employee of  a political subdivision  may opt  into such                                                                   
     a program  through AS  23.10.700-23.10.790, and  such an                                                                   
     employer  is  not allowed  to  require the  employee  to                                                                   
     substitute  accrued  paid  leave.  It  also  establishes                                                                   
     that  eligible   reasons  to  take  paid   family  leave                                                                   
     include pregnancy  and birth of a child,  placement of a                                                                   
     child, caring  for a child,  spouse or parent who  has a                                                                   
     serious  health   condition,  and  the   employee's  own                                                                   
     serious health condition.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4:                                                                                                                 
     This  section  makes  conforming changes  to  Title  39,                                                                   
     Chapter  20 to  reflect the  ongoing  employment of  the                                                                   
     employee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     AS 39.20.500(d)  is amended  to delete the reference  to                                                                   
     unpaid leave.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5:                                                                                                                 
     This  section  is  a  conforming   change.  Because  the                                                                   
     policy is offered  outright to all state  employees, the                                                                   
     language is a conforming change.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AS  39.20.500(f)   is  amended   to  include   political                                                                   
     subdivisions  of   the  state.  This  is   a  conforming                                                                   
     change.  If  a  political   subdivision  did  decide  to                                                                   
     provide the benefit, their staff would be covered.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6:                                                                                                                 
     These are conforming changes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AS 39.20.550(2)  is amended  to make conforming  changes                                                                   
     to the definition of "employer".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7:                                                                                                                 
     This  section  establishes   a  paid  family  leave  tax                                                                   
     credit   for  eligible  taxpayers   that  provide   this                                                                   
     benefit.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     AS 43.20  is amended to  include AS 43.20.075,  a family                                                                   
     leave insurance  tax credit: taxpayers  providing family                                                                   
     leave insurance  plans are allowed a credit  equal to 50                                                                   
     percent  of the  premium paid  by the  taxpayer for  the                                                                   
     year in which the premium is paid.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8:   This  section  provides for  a  transition                                                                   
     date and implementation of  the paid family leave plan.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:24:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  offered  his understanding  that  the  state                                                              
would  be required  to  provide coverage,  political  subdivisions                                                              
would be  able to  choose whether  to opt  in, and companies  with                                                              
more than 50 employees would be required to participate.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALSH responded  that it is optional for all  employers in the                                                              
state, other than  the state itself.  He explained  that employers                                                              
with more than 50  employees would still have to  follow FMLA.  In                                                              
response  to a  follow-up  question,  he stated  that  there is  a                                                              
discussion  concerning a  cost/benefit  analysis.   He added  that                                                              
the  proposed legislation  would  require  an actuarial  analysis.                                                              
This  would  look  at  the  state pool  and  the  rate  a  private                                                              
employer would pay.   He added that the plan  would be actuarially                                                              
based, with  modifications  for private employers  that decide  to                                                              
offer the  benefit.   These modifications would  be made  with the                                                              
state's insurance provider.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  expressed the understanding that  the benefit                                                              
would be  based on  the number  of people  employed in  a company.                                                              
He questioned whether  private employers with a  smaller number of                                                              
employees would be penalized for having fewer employees.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALSH  responded that these  employees would just  become part                                                              
of the state's pool.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX,  in  regard   to  an  employer  opting  out,                                                              
questioned  whether an individual  employee  could become  part of                                                              
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ARMSTRONG  responded  that   there  will   be  an                                                              
individual purchasing pool available  to any worker in the state.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:28:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT questioned  what the cost  would be  to buy                                                              
into the insurance plan.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WALSH  pointed to  [slide  20]  and  explained the  costs  in                                                              
similar plans in  other states.  He stated that  Washinton State's                                                              
plan is $2  a week, while New Hampshire's  plan is $5 a  week.  He                                                              
added  that  the  contract  with   the  insurance  provider  would                                                              
determine the cost.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:30:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 100 was held over.]                                                                                                         

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HB 115 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
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House Bill 115 Sponsor Statement Version A.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
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HB 115
HB 115 Support Omnibus.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 115
DOLWD Letter to House Labor and Commerce 11.2023.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 186
HB186 Sectional Analysis VersionA.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 186
B.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 Ver B 12.4.2023 PPT.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 Ver B Key Highlights, Summary of Changes 12.4.2023.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100
HB100 Ver B Sectional Analysis 12.1.2023.pdf HL&C 12/5/2023 2:00:00 PM
HB 100