Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

05/01/2023 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 126 ASSOCIATE AND PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 126 Out of Committee
+= HB 97 SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 100 PAID FAMILY LEAVE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 21 SCHOOL/UNIVERSITY EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSUR TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 21(L&C) Out of Committee
                    HB 100-PAID FAMILY LEAVE                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:33:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  100,  "An  Act relating  to  teacher and  public                                                               
employee leave."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:33:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JENNIE ARMSTRONG,  Alaska  State Legislature,  as                                                               
prime sponsor, introduced  HB 100.  She stated that  HB 100 would                                                               
give 18  weeks of  paid family medical  leave to  state employees                                                               
and  teachers.    She  said  that  there  would  be  a  committee                                                               
substitute which would give the  private sector the chance to opt                                                               
into the provisions of the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:33:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG began  a PowerPoint presentation titled,                                                               
"HB 100:  Paid Family and  Medical Leave" [hard copy  included in                                                               
the committee  packet].  Moving to  slide 2 through slide  4, she                                                               
stated that  23 percent  of mothers  in the  U.S. return  to work                                                               
within  10 days  of giving  birth, although  experts recommend  a                                                               
waiting  period  of  at  least   6  weeks  for  a  birth  without                                                               
complications and  12 weeks  for a cesarean  section birth.   She                                                               
pointed  out that  children and  families are  the first  step in                                                               
investing in "human  capital," and she displayed  a graph showing                                                               
the return on this investment.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:36:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG continued  to slide  5 through  slide 9                                                               
and  stated  a  child's  early   years  are  a  time  of  intense                                                               
neurological development.  She pointed  out that increased social                                                               
and  emotional  contact  with  a caregiver  is  important  for  a                                                               
child's development,  as 90 percent  of brain  development occurs                                                               
before kindergarten.  She said  that the Family and Medical Leave                                                               
Act (FMLA)  was passed in 1993,  giving 12 weeks of  unpaid leave                                                               
for  employees of  qualifying  companies  and federal  employers.                                                               
She stated that  the proposed legislation would provide  up to 18                                                               
weeks of unpaid  leave for state employees.  She  stated that the                                                               
lack  of  paid  leave  costs  workers in  the  U.S.  $22  billion                                                               
annually.   She displayed  a map showing  which states  have some                                                               
type of paid family leave.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:38:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG moved  to slide 10 through  slide 12 and                                                               
gave  a  brief  overview  of   how  paid  family  leave  supports                                                               
families,  infants, and  parents.   She argued  that mothers  are                                                               
less likely  to need public assistance  if they are able  to take                                                               
paid  family leave,  and overall  financial burdens  are lessened                                                               
for these  families.  She  said that  infants are more  likely to                                                               
receive   follow-up  appointments   and   have  increased   brain                                                               
development  under paid  family  leave.   Mothers  who take  paid                                                               
family  leave are  less likely  to be  re-hospitalized within  21                                                               
months  of   giving  birth,  less   likely  to   have  postpartum                                                               
depression,  and  more  likely  to  have  a  better  relationship                                                               
between the father and the baby.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:41:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG moved  to slide 13 through  slide 15 and                                                               
gave  a brief  overview of  how paid  family leave  would support                                                               
businesses, dependents, and the state.   She said that businesses                                                               
offering paid family  leave are more likely  to retain employees.                                                               
She noted  that small businesses  in California saw a  14 percent                                                               
decrease  in per  worker labor  costs.   She suggested  that paid                                                               
family leave  allows an increase  in preventative  care, reducing                                                               
healthcare  costs for  the nearly  one in  three U.S.  households                                                               
that  provide care  for an  adult  family member  with a  serious                                                               
disability or illness.  She stated  that if Alaskan women had the                                                               
same rate  of participation  in the  workforce as  countries with                                                               
paid family leave,  it is estimated there would  be an additional                                                               
8,000 workers  and over $300  million in wages earned  in Alaska.                                                               
She   concluded   that   paid   family   leave   would   increase                                                               
participation of women in the workforce.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:43:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG continued  to slide 16 and  slide 17 and                                                               
stated that  HB 100 would  change current state statute  to offer                                                               
18  weeks of  paid family  leave, rather  than unpaid,  for state                                                               
employees and teachers.   She stated that  a committee substitute                                                               
will  be  offered,  and  this  follows  the  model  used  by  New                                                               
Hampshire,  which  has made  paid  family  leave  a part  of  the                                                               
employees' insurance  policy, allowing political  subdivisions of                                                               
the state  to opt in.   She said that  the plan would  also allow                                                               
private businesses to  opt into the plan at the  same rate as the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:45:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  asked  whether paid  family  leave  would                                                               
allow families to have more children, if desired.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:45:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRISTIAN  WALSH, Staff,  Representative Jennie  Armstrong, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  answered questions  on HB  100, on  behalf of                                                               
Representative    Armstrong,   prime    sponsor.       Concerning                                                               
Representative  Fields' question,  he expressed  uncertainty, but                                                               
noted that childcare  for early childhood is  very expensive, and                                                               
paid family leave would help keep the families' earnings higher.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ARMSTRONG  added   that  finding   childcare  is                                                               
difficult,  and paid  family leave  could  potentially result  in                                                               
more openings at childcare centers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:47:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked  whether the state would  be paying the                                                               
deductible.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALSH  answered that New  Hampshire offers an  insurance plan                                                               
to its  employees in which  it pays  for the premiums,  which are                                                               
capped at  the same rates  as long-term disability premiums.   He                                                               
stated  that he  would  follow  up to  the  committee  on who  is                                                               
responsible  for the  deductible.   In  response to  a series  of                                                               
follow-up questions, he said that  there would be a short waiting                                                               
period on the insurance policies.   He answered that the proposed                                                               
legislation  would allow  the family  leave  to be  used for  any                                                               
reason a  child is added  to the family, as  well as the  care of                                                               
another  family  member's  health.     Concerning  the  actuarial                                                               
analysis,  he   answered  that  there  is   an  estimate  through                                                               
legislative finance.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:52:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked who  would ultimately be responsible                                                               
for paying the cost of family leave for state employees.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG answered  that it  would come  from the                                                               
general fund like any other state employee benefit.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:53:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FIELDS   asked   whether   the   Department   of                                                               
Administration  tracks   the  number   of  employees   who  leave                                                               
employment because of a lack of paid family leave.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WALSH answered  no, as  it is  considered to  be part  of an                                                               
employee's personnel file.  In  response to a follow-up question,                                                               
he said  that failing to retain  an employee can cost  as much as                                                               
21 percent of the salary which would have been paid.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:55:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK asked  whether  the  required figure  for                                                               
hours worked is a standard requirement in other legislation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALSH answered yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:57:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked  whether  it  would  be  an  optional                                                               
benefit.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALSH  answered no.   He added that  it could apply  to older                                                               
workers needing to take care of  a family member.  In response to                                                               
a  follow-up question,  he  said  that there  had  not been  much                                                               
discussion with labor unions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:59:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WRIGHT   asked   whether  there   has   been   a                                                               
conversation  with  the  administration concerning  the  proposed                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALSH  answered that there  has been minimal  discussion with                                                               
members of the administration.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:00:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether there  is a figure for usage                                                               
of the current unpaid leave policy.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALSH answered  no.  In response to a  follow-up question, he                                                               
said that he is unsure what  the split is between employees using                                                               
the leave to care for sick family members or children.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER questioned  whether there  is information                                                               
on a federal level.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WALSH responded  that he  would follow  up to  the committee                                                               
with this information.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:02:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that HB 100 was held over.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:03:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Labor and  Commerce Standing Committee  meeting was  adjourned at                                                               
4:03 p.m.                                                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB97 Supporting Document RCW 19.150.060.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Sponsor statement.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Alaska Lien Law Presentation - 2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Supporting DocumentCalifornia_Codes_.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Fiscal Note EB.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 A.PDF HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 GlobalFCU Letter Concerns.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB 100 Paid Family Leave PPT 4.26.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 ver A Supporting Document NPWF 4.23.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 ver A Supporting Document a better balance report-business 4.23.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 ver A Supporting Doc-Joint Economic Committee Economic Benefits of Paid Leave 4.20.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB 100 ver A Supporting Document a better balance-health 4.23.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB0100A.PDF HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB97 CS (2).pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 97
HB 100 Supporting Doc-Paid Family Leave PPT 5.1.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB100 Ver A Sectional Analysis 4.1.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
HB100 Ver A Sponsor Statement 4.7.2023.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
Fiscal Note 1 HB100.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
Fiscal Note 2 HB100.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
Fiscal Note 3 HB100.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
2023.5.15 - HB100 Letter of Support - ACT.pdf HL&C 5/1/2023 3:15:00 PM
HB 100