Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

03/19/2025 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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<Bill Hearing Canceled>
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 123 TAXATION: VEHICLE RENTALS, SUBPOENAS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 123 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ SB 79 PAYMENT OF WAGES; PAYROLL CARD ACCOUNT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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         SB  79-PAYMENT OF WAGES; PAYROLL CARD ACCOUNT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of HB 99.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:39:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
SENATE BILL NO. 79, "An Act relating to wage payments."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:39:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JESSE  BJORKMAN, Alaska  State Legislature,  presented SB
79 on behalf  of the bill sponsor, the Senate  Labor and Commerce                                                               
Standing Committee,  on which Senator  Bjorkman serves  as chair.                                                               
He  gave  the  sponsor  statement  for SB  79  [included  in  the                                                               
committee  file], which  read  as  follows [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill  79 would  allow employers to  credit wages                                                                    
     to  an  employee  on  a  payroll  card  account  if  an                                                                    
     employee  has voluntarily  authorized  this,  or if  an                                                                    
     employee has  not authorized deposit of  their wages to                                                                    
     a specified  account. This legislation  gives employers                                                                    
     another  option to  pay their  employees that  could be                                                                    
     less expensive  than other forms of  payment and avoids                                                                    
     the difficulties of distributing paper checks.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     SB 79 requires employers  to be transparent when giving                                                                    
     employees the  option to open  a payroll  card account.                                                                    
     The  bill  requires  that employers  provide  employees                                                                    
     with a list of fees they could                                                                                             
     encounter  with  the card  and  a  cost-free method  to                                                                    
     access their wages,  as having an ATM card  that is not                                                                    
     connected  to  a specific  bank  can  require fees  for                                                                    
     withdrawal. Employers also cannot  offer a payroll card                                                                    
     that  charges  fees   for  an  employee's  application,                                                                    
     initiation, or participation in the account.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  bill  gives  employees  that  don't  have  a  bank                                                                    
     account  another  option  to accept  payment  of  their                                                                    
     wages  and a  mechanism  to avoid  check cashing  fees.                                                                    
     Payroll cards will be used  without fees to pay for any                                                                    
     store purchases and one cost-free  ATM withdrawal in an                                                                    
     amount up to the employee's net wages per pay-period.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     I urge your support of Senate Bill 79                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN gave a brief history of the bill in the prior                                                                  
legislature, noting that it failed to pass.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:41:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAVAYA  BIEBER,  Staff,  Senator  Jesse  Bjorkman,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of  the bill  sponsor, the  Senator Labor                                                               
and  Commerce  Standing  Committee,  on  which  Senator  Bjorkman                                                               
serves as chair, gave the  sectional analysis for SB 79 [included                                                               
in  the   committee  file],  which  read   as  follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:  Amends AS 23.10.040(a) to  add AS 23.10.044                                                                  
     allowing an employer to pay via payroll                                                                                    
     card account.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  AS 23.10  is amended  by adding  section AS                                                                  
     23.10.044                                                                                                                  
     (a) Allows an  employer to pay wages to  a payroll card                                                                    
     account if an employee has voluntarily                                                                                     
     authorized  or  if  an   employee  has  not  authorized                                                                    
     deposit of their wages to a bank account.                                                                                  
     (b) States an  employer paying wages to  a payroll card                                                                    
     account shall notify the employee of the                                                                                   
     terms and conditions of payroll cards.                                                                                     
     (c)  A payroll  card account  must provide  an employee                                                                    
     with at least one cost-free withdrawal                                                                                     
     each pay  period, up  to the  amount of  the employee's                                                                    
     net wages, and a cost-free mechanism                                                                                       
     to  check the  account balance  through a  phone system                                                                    
     and an additional unlimited cost-free                                                                                      
     electric mechanism to check account balances.                                                                              
     (d) An  employer may not  offer a payroll  card account                                                                    
     that charges fees for employee                                                                                             
     application  or   participation  in  the   account,  or                                                                    
     issuance of an employee's card and one                                                                                     
     replacement   each  calendar   year,  or   transfer  of                                                                    
     employee wages to the account, or point-ofsale                                                                             
     purchase transactions.                                                                                                     
     (e) An  employer may not  offer a payroll  card account                                                                    
     unless the wages are insured on a passthrough                                                                              
     basis by an entity that insures bank deposits.                                                                             
     (f) This  section protects employees' right  to bargain                                                                    
     collectively through representatives of                                                                                    
     their choice  to establish  mechanisms for  payments of                                                                    
     wages.                                                                                                                     
     (g) Defines  "payroll card" and "payroll  card account"                                                                    
     in statute.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:43:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY MILLER,  Senior Director, Government Affairs,  Automatic Data                                                               
Processing, Inc. (ADP),  gave invited testimony in  support of SB
79.  She explained that ADP  was the nation's largest provider of                                                               
human  capital management  solutions, supporting  Human Resources                                                               
(HR), payroll,  and benefits administration.   She  reported that                                                               
ADP pays one  in six employees in the United  States.  She stated                                                               
that SB 79 would eliminate  the requirement that Alaska employers                                                               
offer paper  paychecks as a form  of wage payment.   Under SB 79,                                                               
employers would  have the  right to  offer wages  in the  form of                                                               
direct  deposit  or  payment  cards.    She  clarified  that  the                                                               
proposed legislation  does not  prevent employees  from receiving                                                               
pay  via direct  deposit,  nor does  it  prohibit employers  from                                                               
distributing paper  checks.  She  further noted that SB  79 would                                                               
protect  the  right  to collective  bargaining  arrangements  and                                                               
would not impact payments made to state employees.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER  asserted that alternatives  to paper checks  are more                                                               
timely, consistent, and  secure.  She noted  that some employers,                                                               
if forced  to offer paper  checks, may  be unable to  fulfill the                                                               
legal requirements  of timely  pay laws;  weather events  or slow                                                               
mail  processing  can prevent  employees  from  picking up  their                                                               
paper checks.  She noted that  employees who do not qualify for a                                                               
bank  account  could still  receive  a  payroll card  from  their                                                               
employer, asserting  that payroll cards offer  employees consumer                                                               
protection and  convenience.  She  stated that payroll  cards can                                                               
be  used   for  online  bill   payments,  online   shopping,  and                                                               
electronic  travel  arrangements,  such as  flights,  hotels,  or                                                               
rental  cars.   She  further stated  that  payroll cards  provide                                                               
protection  against  unauthorized use  and  fraud  and cannot  be                                                               
overdrawn.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLER  asserted that  nearly  all  government payments  are                                                               
electronic,  such as  tax refunds,  social security  payments, et                                                               
cetera.    She  cited  the   National  Automated  Clearing  House                                                               
Association, reporting  that 93  percent of American  workers are                                                               
paid via  electronic direct deposit.   She  additionally reported                                                               
that electronic  pay is the  only permitted form of  wage payment                                                               
in many states,  and at least 30 states  have already implemented                                                               
payroll cards.   She  concluded by  stating that  employees often                                                               
welcome  the  change and  are  adaptable.   She  urged  committee                                                               
members to pass SB 79 and thanked the committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:48:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  asked whether  state employees  would be                                                               
eligible for payroll cards under the proposed legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:48:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER reiterated that SB 79  would not have an impact on the                                                               
payment of wages to State  of Alaska employees and further stated                                                               
that it would  be up to the  state if it wanted  to allow payroll                                                               
cards for its employees.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:48:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK noted that  Section 2, [subsection] (a) of                                                               
SB 79 would  allow employers to either pay wages  to payroll card                                                               
account if an employee has  voluntarily authorized that action or                                                               
an  employer  would deposit  wages  into  a  bank account  if  an                                                               
employee has not authorized wages to  be paid into a payroll card                                                               
account.   She asked  which scenario would  be more  common under                                                               
the proposed legislation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:49:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER  offered her belief that  the most popular of  the two                                                               
scenarios  would  be  the  direct deposit  and  noted  that  most                                                               
employees    were  already  on  a direct  deposit  option.    She                                                               
explained that  the payroll  card would  serve as  an alternative                                                               
for those who  are "unbanked."  Additionally,  she explained that                                                               
unbanked  individuals  who  receive  a payroll  card  could  make                                                               
purchases online.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:50:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  asked whether an employee  would receive                                                               
a  single reloadable  payroll card  or a  new payroll  card every                                                               
payday.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER replied  that the employee would  receive a reloadable                                                               
payroll card.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  noted  that the  legislation  prohibits                                                               
employers from offering a payroll  card account that would charge                                                               
fees.   She asked who would  be responsible for the  payroll card                                                               
fees.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLER   responded  that  the   issuer,  such  as   Visa  or                                                               
MasterCard, would be responsible for  the payroll card fees.  She                                                               
offered her belief  that mobile check cashing  and cash reloading                                                               
are typical  kinds of associated  fees.  She further  stated that                                                               
employees could use the payroll  cards anywhere that would accept                                                               
a check without incurring fees.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  requested a  list of  fees that  consumers could                                                               
pay  under SB  79 and  queried  how payroll  cards interact  with                                                               
banks.  He asked whether ADP provides banking services.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER responded  that ADP does not  provide banking services                                                               
but that it does provide payroll cards.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER,  in response  to a  follow-up question  from Co-Chair                                                               
Fields  clarified that  ADP does  not provide  any other  banking                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  asked whether  payroll card  users would                                                               
pay a fee  for withdrawing cash from an  automated teller machine                                                               
(ATM).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER replied  that payroll card users are  allowed one free                                                               
ATM withdrawal  per pay  period.   She noted  that there  are in-                                                               
network   ATMs   that    offer   free,   unlimited   withdrawals.                                                               
Additionally, she  stated that payroll  card users could go  to a                                                               
teller  at  any  brick-and-mortar   bank  that  accepts  Visa  or                                                               
MasterCard  for unlimited  cash withdrawals  with no  fees.   She                                                               
noted that payroll  card users could not use  an automated teller                                                               
machine (ATM) inside of a bank.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER  asked   whether  the   Federal  Deposit                                                               
Insurance  Corporation  (FDIC)  regulates   payroll  cards.    He                                                               
further asked whether federal  banking regulations are applicable                                                               
to payroll  cards.   He remarked that  the legislation  was being                                                               
presented as a simplified banking service.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER  responded that there are  regulations regarding anti-                                                               
theft protection  [for payroll cards].   Additionally, she stated                                                               
that  she  would   do  more  research  and   follow-up  with  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON commented that  access to payroll cards was                                                               
helpful for anyone without a bank  account.  He noted he was paid                                                               
through a payroll card at his first job.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:54:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  offered  his understanding  that  the  Consumer                                                               
Financial Protection  Bureau (CFPB) was "essentially  shut down."                                                               
He asked whether CFPB had any role related to payroll cards.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER replied that she believed  CFPB may have had a broader                                                               
federal role  in providing consumer protection  for payroll cards                                                               
and stated that the states  typically provide consumer protection                                                               
for payroll  cards.  She  added that the typical  protections one                                                               
might expect  with credit  and debit  cards are  the same  as for                                                               
payroll  cards.     Additionally,   she  stated  that   any  fees                                                               
associated  with  payroll  cards   are  no  different  from  fees                                                               
associated with credit or debit cards, such as merchant-                                                                        
generated fees or transaction fees.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BIEBER,   in  response  to  Representative   Saddlers  prior                                                               
question, referred to page 2,  line 24, [subsection] (e) and read                                                               
"an  employer  may  not  offer  a  payroll  card  account  unless                                                               
employee wages  or other  forms of  compensation credited  to the                                                               
account are insured on a passed  through basis to the employee by                                                               
the Federal  Deposit Insurance  Corporation, the  National Credit                                                               
Union  Administration,  or  another   entity  that  insures  bank                                                               
deposits."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:56:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN,  in response to Representative  Saddler's prior                                                               
question, noted  that state legislation  regarding cryptocurrency                                                               
and  money   transmission  modernization  should   also  consider                                                               
including gift cards  in regulation.  He stated that  was not the                                                               
purpose of SB 79.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:57:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK referred to [subsection]  (f) of SB 79 and                                                               
asked  if that  language was  in  the previous  iteration of  the                                                               
proposed  legislation.    She  noted  that the  value  of  SB  79                                                               
appeared to be in "employer options" and "employee choice."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:58:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BJORKMAN  offered  his  understanding  that  SB  79  was                                                               
identical to the previous iteration  of the proposed legislation.                                                               
He noted  that the provision  in [subsection] (f)  would preserve                                                               
collective  bargaining  rights  of  employees  regarding  payroll                                                               
format.   He added that  it is  the employee's right  to advocate                                                               
for and  negotiate with  employers regarding  how they  are paid.                                                               
He stated,  "That provision simply  protects rights  of employees                                                               
who are organized and bargain collectively with their employer."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:59:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK  noted  that   members  of  a  collective                                                               
bargaining unit  might disagree with  the form of pay  they might                                                               
collectively   accept.     She   suggested   that  the   proposed                                                               
legislation was supposed to be an "employer-offered option."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BJORKMAN,   in  response  to   Representative  Carrick's                                                               
question  regarding  the consideration  of  SB  79 as  conforming                                                               
language, responded yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:00:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  whether  HB 99  would  need to  be                                                               
modified were SB 79 to pass the legislature.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN  responded that SB  79 would not  intersect with                                                               
HB 99.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:01:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  queried the "real-world impact"  of the proposed                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER stated that 20  other states have passed paperless pay                                                               
legislation.  She stated that  it is helpful for employers, given                                                               
that the cost  of issuing checks can range from  $4 to $20, which                                                               
could  be expensive  for a  small business  owner.   She remarked                                                               
that most employees opt for  direct deposit and the payroll cards                                                               
serve as an alternative.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  further  inquired  whether  there  had  been  a                                                               
positive impact on  reducing the rate of  unbanked individuals or                                                               
other  consumer gains  in states  where  similar legislation  has                                                               
been enacted.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLER  replied that the  payroll cards would not  "offer the                                                               
option  to  be  banked,"  but  the  alternative  allows  unbanked                                                               
individuals to participate in online shopping.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:04:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL announced that SB 79 was held over.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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