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04/24/2024 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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+= HB 97 SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
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*+ HB 29 INSURANCE DISCRIMINATION TELECONFERENCED
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            HB  97-SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:43:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration of CS  FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 97(JUD)  "An Act relating                                                               
to  self-storage  facilities  for  personal  property,  including                                                               
vehicles  and  watercraft; distinguishing  self-storage  facility                                                               
liens  from another  type of  storage lien;  and excluding  self-                                                               
storage liens from the treatment of certain unclaimed property."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:44:10 PM                                                                                                                    
ERICK  CORDERO-GIORGAN, Staff,  Representative Mike  Prax, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska, presented  a recap of  HB 97.                                                               
He said  HB 97 establishes  self-storage lien law in  Alaska, the                                                               
only  state without  self-storage lien  laws. He  said lien  laws                                                               
protect both  the renter and  the [lessor]. The main  purpose for                                                               
these laws is  to recognize a voluntary agreement  to store items                                                               
in  the  property, which  automatically  creates  a lien  on  the                                                               
property. He  said in the  rare case that  a renter fails  to pay                                                               
and goes into default, HB  97 provides for a notification process                                                               
and in  the case that  the debt is  not remedied, the  lessor may                                                               
foreclose  or sell  the  items stored.  He said  this  is a  rare                                                               
occurrence and  when it does  happen, it is because  the [lessor]                                                               
wants to be  able to rent [the storage space]  again. He asserted                                                               
that even  when the lessor  sells [abandoned items], they  do not                                                               
make  enough  money  to  capture  lost revenue.  He  said  HB  97                                                               
provides protection similar to that  for landlords and tenants in                                                               
the landlord/tenant act.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced invited testimony for HB 97.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
DANIEL  BRYANT,  Legal  and Legislative  Counsel,  National  Self                                                               
Storage  Association,  Alexandria,  Virginia, said  HB  97  would                                                               
bring much needed  certainty to businesses in Alaska  to know the                                                               
precise legal  process and  steps to  follow to  lawfully enforce                                                               
their lien  rights in the  event of a  default. He said  the bill                                                               
further  provides significant  consumer  protections  in that  it                                                               
would require  every storage facility  in the state  to precisely                                                               
follow  all  the mandatory  requirements  outlined  in the  bill.                                                               
Additionally, the various requirements  and elements contained in                                                               
HB 97  are consistent  with the overwhelming  majority of  the 49                                                               
other states' self-storage laws.  He acknowledged concerns raised                                                               
regarding  HB  97,  but  respectfully  disagreed  with  them.  He                                                               
asserted that HB  97 would establish a floor or  a minimum set of                                                               
requirements that  every owner [lessor]  must follow and  no such                                                               
minimum requirements exist  presently [in Alaska]. He  said HB 97                                                               
would not establish a statutory  ceiling and if an owner [lessor]                                                               
wishes to  go above and  beyond the minimum  mandates established                                                               
by  the bill,  they may.  Any owner  that can  afford to  provide                                                               
their unit  renters with  a much  longer enforcement  timeline or                                                               
provide  significantly more  notice  may  do so.  He  said HB  97                                                               
establishes a  minimum framework  that every owner  [lessor] must                                                               
comply with and creates a new  baseline and rules of the road for                                                               
storage  owners to  enforce their  lien  rights in  the event  of                                                               
default.  It  would  also  set minimum  guard  rails  to  protect                                                               
consumers  and let  them know  what  to expect  should a  default                                                               
occur.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  Brant  concluded  that  policy making  is  a  balancing  act                                                               
blending  various  viewpoints  to  reach a  reasonable  and  fair                                                               
middle ground compromise; and HB 97 achieves that objective.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:48:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN opened public testimony on HB 97.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:49:26 PM                                                                                                                    
WILLIAM BREWER,  representing self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified                                                               
in support  of HB  97. He  said it was  scary, as  a self-storage                                                               
business  owner  in  Alaska,  to operate  his  business  with  no                                                               
governed framework or set of laws  to follow when the customer is                                                               
paying him to  protect their personal items. He said  he found it                                                               
very strange that any storage  facility owner operating in Alaska                                                               
is  comfortable  with the  current  Alaska  lien laws.  He  said,                                                               
without HB  97, there are  no set of laws  regarding self-storage                                                               
liens.  Owners  are instead  using  their  own interpretation  of                                                               
governing laws,  or, he said,  in his case copying  the framework                                                               
from another  state. He  said HB  97 lien  laws are  no different                                                               
than the Alaska landlord-tenant  act regarding non-paying tenants                                                               
or  individuals  who  stop  paying  their  car,  phone  or  house                                                               
payments. As a  business owner in Alaska, he  found it ridiculous                                                               
that he  would have  to copy the  self-storage laws  from another                                                               
state to  try to protect  his family and business  from lawsuits.                                                               
He urged the committee to support HB 97.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:50:45 PM                                                                                                                    
ELIZABETH   MANN,  Alaska   Mini   Storage,  Fairbanks,   Alaska,                                                               
testified in  support of HB  97. She referred to  letters written                                                               
by Daniel  Bryant representing the Self  Storage Association. Mr.                                                               
Bryant's  letters were  in response  to letters  of concern  from                                                               
Spirit of Alaska  Federal Credit Union and  Global Federal Credit                                                               
Union.  She   applauded  his  letters  and   explained  that  the                                                               
financial  institutions were  requiring  tenants  and lessors  to                                                               
create lists  of stored items  when there is  a lien owed  to the                                                               
institutions.  She  said  there  is wide  consensus  among  self-                                                               
storage  owners  that  they  are  not willing  to  take  on  that                                                               
responsibility. She  noted similar situations in  which owners or                                                               
landlords are  not responsible  to care  for or  retain abandoned                                                               
items,  for  example  vehicles  left  at  airports  in  long-term                                                               
parking that are subject to  impounding; motorcycles left to long                                                               
for repair  and abandoned items  left in a rented  apartment. She                                                               
pointed out  that these  situations do  not require  landlords to                                                               
contact former tenants who have defaulted.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
ARTY FONOV, Eagle Eye Secure  Storage, Wasilla, Alaska, testified                                                               
in  support  of  HB  97.  He said  he  was  concerned  about  the                                                               
provision  to  provide  adequate  notice for  customers  who  are                                                               
entering  auction status.  He noted  that, as  a lessor  he tries                                                               
very hard  to reach a customer  prior to a unit  entering auction                                                               
status. He said  auction status is a last  resort because lessors                                                               
receive pennies on the dollar  for abandoned property. He said it                                                               
is best  when a customer  pays for their  unit and moves  out. He                                                               
said the  lack of  self-storage lien laws  makes it  difficult to                                                               
know how to protect his business and his customers' property.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
JAMES  MACNAUGHTON,   representing  self,  Blue   Moose  Storage,                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska, testified  in support of HB 97.  He said, with                                                               
no laws  in the State  of Alaska  to provide guidance,  he worked                                                               
with national  trade associations  to use  other states'  laws as                                                               
models to develop  his businesses policies. He  said this created                                                               
an element of risk when trying to  guess what will hold up in the                                                               
State of  Alaska courts should  there be  a need to  defend their                                                               
business practices. He said clear  and transparent guidelines are                                                               
key  to mitigating  that  risk and  protecting  the business.  He                                                               
described Blue Moose Storage as  being run by good local Alaskans                                                               
running  a small  business to  support their  families and  not a                                                               
massive corporation  looking to  take advantage of  neighbors. He                                                               
said the last thing he would want  to do is foreclose on a tenant                                                               
and that  foreclosure is  a lot  of work  and not  profitable. He                                                               
said over  his twenty years  in this business nearly  one hundred                                                               
percent of foreclosures  have resulted in loss  for his business.                                                               
He urged  passage of HB  97 for clear and  transparent guidelines                                                               
for the  protection of businesses  and for tenants, and  said the                                                               
bill was a win-win.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:55:56 PM                                                                                                                    
TIM SULLIVAN,  President, Alaska Credit Union  League, Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  testified with  concerns on  HB 97.  He said  the league                                                               
appreciates the  introduction of  HB 97 and  noted that  the bill                                                               
grants  lien  superiority  already  available  in  the  49  other                                                               
states. He highlighted several main concerns:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   • the need for timely notice to other lien holders,                                                                          
     particularly those with publicly noticed liens                                                                             
   • the need for a limit on fees to prevent increasing                                                                         
     encumbered collateral and adding to consumers' compounding                                                                 
     debt                                                                                                                       
   • the liability limitations for self-storage facilities,                                                                     
     which could conflict with their duty of care as                                                                            
     warehousemen under federal law                                                                                             
   • the absence of consequences for violating the legislation's                                                                
     provisions                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:57:28 PM                                                                                                                    
TYLER  SCOTT,  Owner,  Publix Self  Storage,  Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
testified in  support of  HB 97.  He said the  bill would  give a                                                               
level playing field  to the storage operators  and the customers.                                                               
He said  it would  allow [both  parties] to  know what  to expect                                                               
from the terms of the rental  and what would happen if it doesn't                                                               
end successfully. He  said the current situation is  a crap shoot                                                               
and  creates  an unfair  playing  field  for both  operators  and                                                               
renters. He said  he would willingly return  stored and abandoned                                                               
items without  charge to  the customers,  had the  customers made                                                               
the  effort [to  recover  them] and  when they  do,  he said  his                                                               
business does simply give the  items back. He said selling things                                                               
at auction  is not worth  the liability for the  storage business                                                               
or  for the  renter  when there  is no  legislation  in place  to                                                               
protect either party.  He noted the irony that  the credit unions                                                               
were objecting to fees.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:59:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN closed public testimony HB 97.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:59:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:00:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   moved  to  adopt  the   Senate  committee                                                               
substitute  (SCS) for  CSHB 97,  work order  33-LS0392\R, as  the                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:00:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN objected for purposes of explanation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:00:31 PM                                                                                                                    
KONRAD  JACKSON,  Staff,  Senator Jesse  Bjorkman,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, provided  a summary of  changes for                                                               
HB  97, version  U.A  to R.  He  stated that  on  April 23,  2024                                                               
committee  members received  four proposed  amendments that  were                                                               
put into HB 97 to create  the committee substitute HB 97, version                                                               
R. He reviewed the four amendments:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation included.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                             33-LS0392\U.A.1                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                     4/11/24                                                                    
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
     TO: CSHB 97(JUD) a                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     1    Page 3, lines 7 - 8:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     2    Delete "certified mail"                                                                                               
     3    Insert "by the United States Postal Service with                                                                      
          a certificate of mailing"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:01:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. JACKSON  continued to present  the summary of changes  for HB
97, version U.A to R.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation included.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                             33-LS0392\U.A.2                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                     4/17/24                                                                    
                          AMENDMENT 2                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
          TO: CSHB 97(JUD) am                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     1    Page 2, line 8:                                                                                                       
     2         Delete "Notwithstanding AS 28.10.371, if"                                                                        
     3         Insert "If"                                                                                                      
     4                                                                                                                          
     5    Page 2, line 9:                                                                                                       
     6         Delete "superior"                                                                                                
     7         Insert "junior"                                                                                                  
     8                                                                                                                          
     9    Page 2, line 11:                                                                                                      
       10        Delete "A storage lien is superior to a                                                                        
     security interest perfected under AS 45.29."                                                                               
     11                                                                                                                         
     12   Page 2, line 12, following "tax lien":                                                                                
      13   Insert "or security interest that was perfected                                                                      
     before the date the rental agreement was                                                                                   
     14   entered into"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:02:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. JACKSON continued to present the summary of changes for HB
97, version U.A to R.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation included.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                             33-LS0392\U.A.3                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                     4/17/24                                                                    
                          AMENDMENT 3                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
          TO: CSHB 97(JUD) am                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     1    Page 3, following line 28:                                                                                            
     2         Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                 
     3              "(c) In addition to the notice required                                                                     
     under (a) of this section, a facility owner                                                                                
      4    shall, after a unit renter has been in default                                                                       
     for 20 days, notify a lienholder identified                                                                                
      5    in the rental agreement that the unit renter is                                                                      
     in default."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:02:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. JACKSON continued to present the summary of changes for HB
97, version U.A to R.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation included.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                             33-LS0392\U.A.4                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                     4/22/24                                                                    
                          AMENDMENT 4                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
          TO: CSHB 97(JUD) am                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     1    Page 2, line 2, following "law":                                                                                      
     2         Insert "not to exceed an amount equal to 60                                                                      
     days of accrued charges permitted under                                                                                    
     3    the rental agreement, including rent, labor, and                                                                      
     other fees"                                                                                                                
     4                                                                                                                          
     5    Page 3, line 10, following "days":                                                                                    
     6         Insert ", but not more than 20 days,"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:03:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN removed his objection. He found no further                                                                     
objection and SCS for CSHB 97 was adopted as the working                                                                        
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:03:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held HB 97 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB97 DOR Response to SLAC on Child Support Liens.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Public Testimony-combined 04.02-04.23.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Draft Proposed Amendment U.A.1.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Draft Proposed Amendment U.A.2.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Draft Proposed Amendment U.A.3.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Draft Proposed Amendment U.A.4.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
HB29 Ver U.A.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Sponsor Statement 2.20.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Sectional Analysis 2.20.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Fiscal Note-DCCED-DOI 02.03.23.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Fiscal Note-DCCED-DOI 04.19.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Blank Draft Proposed SCS ver H.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Presentation by Rep. Armstrong re. Paid Family Leave CS 04.22.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Explanation of Changes ver U.A to ver H 04.23.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB29 Sectional Analysis SCS Ver H 04.23.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 29
HB97 Draft Proposed CS ver R.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
HB97 Public Testimony-Response to Proposed Amendments 04.23.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 97
SB257 Draft Proposed CS ver H.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
SB 257
HB254 ver U.A.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB254 Sponsor Statement ver U.A.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB254 Sectional Analysis ver U.A.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB254 Fiscal Note CS(JUD)AM FCS-AS 04.26.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB254 Public Testimony-Free Speech Coalition 04.29.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB254 Public Testimony-Letter_CUSP 04.28.24.pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 254
HB254 Public Testimony-Letter_NDC 04.29.24 .pdf SL&C 4/24/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 254