Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

02/26/2025 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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        HB  97-ORG. RETAIL THEFT/FUND;MKTPLACE SALES TAX                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of HB 106.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:09:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO. 97,  "An  Act  relating  to theft;  relating  to                                                               
organized retail theft; relating  to property crimes; relating to                                                               
aggravating  factors  at  sentencing;  establishing  a  statewide                                                               
marketplace   facilitator  sales   tax;   and  establishing   the                                                               
organized retail theft fund in the general fund."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:09:25 PM}                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZACK  FIELDS, Alaska  State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor, presented HB 97.  He  explained that he was motivated to                                                               
introduce HB  97 because a  disturbing number of  retail business                                                               
have  shut down  in  Anchorage, largely  due  to un-policing  and                                                               
rising levels  of unprosecuted  retail theft.   He referred  to a                                                               
PowerPoint  presentation  on HB  97  [included  in the  committee                                                               
packet], beginning  on slide 2,  "Organized Retail  Crime," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) defines                                                                        
          ORC  as "the  association of  two or  more persons                                                                    
          engaged  in  illegally  obtaining items  of  value                                                                    
          from retail  establishments, through  theft and/or                                                                    
          fraud, as part of a criminal enterprise. 1"                                                                           
        • According to the 2021 joint report released by                                                                        
          the  Retail  Industry Leaders  Association  (RILA)                                                                    
          and  the  Buy  Safe America  Coalition,  in  2019,                                                                    
          nearly  $70  billion  in goods  were  stolen  from                                                                    
          retailers. 2                                                                                                          
        • ORC is not simply shoplifting, and these crimes                                                                       
          are  not victimless.  A growing  number of  thefts                                                                    
          turn  violent,  and consumers,  local  communities                                                                    
          and businesses  bear the  costs of  rising prices.                                                                    
          These thefts  are detrimental to  both businesses,                                                                    
          small and large alike,  and the overall economy as                                                                    
          they pose  both societal  and health risks  to the                                                                    
          community.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:11:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS summarized  slides 3-5,  which listed  the                                                               
types  of retailers  and products  targeted for  organized retail                                                               
crime  (ORC)  by  ranking,  with  pharmacy,  big  box,  and  home                                                               
improvement making up the top  three categories.  He continued to                                                               
slide 6, "Economic Impact of  Organized Retail Crime," which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        • The economic impact of retail crime is profound.                                                                      
          Retailers face  increased costs for  lost product,                                                                    
          security, and  labor, which lead to  higher prices                                                                    
          for consumers  and ultimately, lower  sales. Lower                                                                    
          sales  translate  to  fewer  jobs  throughout  the                                                                    
          economy.  The result  is  $125.7  billion in  lost                                                                    
          economic activity  and 658,375 fewer  jobs, paying                                                                    
          almost  $39.3 billion  in  wages  and benefits  to                                                                    
          workers.                                                                                                              
        • National estimates reveal ORC costs federal and                                                                       
          state governments  nearly $15 billion in  lost tax                                                                    
          revenue, not including lost sales taxes.                                                                              
        • It is estimated that the average American family                                                                      
          will  pay more  than $500  annually in  additional                                                                    
          costs due to the impact of ORC.                                                                                       
        • ORC is a low-risk, high-reward income stream for                                                                      
          domestic and  transnational criminal organizations                                                                    
          that     greatly    impacts     inter-state    and                                                                    
          international  commerce and  the overall  economic                                                                    
          security of Alaska and the United States.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS continued  to  slide 7,  which featured  a                                                               
graph  that illustrated  the correlation  between  the growth  in                                                               
online   shopping  and   shoplifting.     Forums  like   Facebook                                                               
Marketplace  and  Amazon  are  common   vectors  for  stolen  and                                                               
counterfeit goods to  be resold.  Slide 8 gave  an example of the                                                               
rising rates  of loss at Lowe's,  as the retailer lost  nearly $1                                                               
billion  to  loss of  inventory  ("shrink")  in  2022.   Slide  9                                                               
illustrated  the  connection  between ORC  and  organized  crime,                                                               
including  drug  trafficking,   human  trafficking,  and  violent                                                               
cartels.     Slides   10-12   displayed   graphics  showing   the                                                               
organizational  structure of  organized theft  groups (OTG),  the                                                               
organized  retail  theft  (ORT)  cycle, and  an  example  of  the                                                               
Central America labor trafficking threat.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:16:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  continued to  slide  13,  which showed  a                                                               
graph of  the impact on small  businesses and how often  they are                                                               
experiencing ORC.   He anecdotally  reported that  some Anchorage                                                               
businesses  are  experiencing  significantly higher  losses  than                                                               
their  national peers.    Slide  14 displayed  photos  of ORT  in                                                               
Alaska.  Slide  15 indicated that in 2022,  Alaska retailers lost                                                               
$202  million in  revenue to  theft.   Slide 16  showed a  map of                                                               
legislation  addressing ORC  across the  U.S.   He cautioned  the                                                               
legislature  from  inadvertently  penalizing someone  who  steals                                                               
food to survive and reiterated that the goal is to target ORC.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:18:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS turned  to slide  17, "What  Can We  Do to                                                               
Address   the  Problem,"   which   read   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        • Update the definition of organized retail crime                                                                       
          and  increase  criminal penalties:  States  should                                                                    
          act  to  define  the crime  of  "organized  retail                                                                    
          theft"  in criminal  law to  specify those  thefts                                                                    
          involving   two  or   more  participants   and  an                                                                    
          intention   of   resale  and   include   increased                                                                    
          penalties for those specific violations.                                                                              
        • The law and prosecutors must hold those who                                                                           
          engage in  organized and significant  retail theft                                                                    
          accountable: Since  2000, at least 40  states have                                                                    
          raised  the thresholds  for  the  value of  stolen                                                                    
          goods  to   trigger  a  felony  charge.   In  some                                                                    
          instances,  criminals  are   taking  advantage  of                                                                    
          these  increased higher  thresholds  to engage  in                                                                    
          repeated  thefts  and  avoid  prosecution.  States                                                                    
          should    reconsider    these    thresholds    and                                                                    
          prosecutors  should  avoid   adopting  broad  non-                                                                    
          prosecution policies.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:18:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  moved to  slide  18,  which compared  the                                                               
existing criminal  code in  Title 11 to  the penalties  for theft                                                               
proposed in HB 97.  He stated  that the bill would do two things:                                                               
establish ORC in law and  reduce the penalty threshold for theft.                                                               
The  goal, he  said, is  to give  prosecutors more  tools to  put                                                               
criminals  behind bars,  adding that  ORT  would be  added as  an                                                               
aggravating  factor to  allow  the courts  to  impose a  sentence                                                               
above the  presumptive range.  He  concluded on slide 19,  "HB 97                                                               
Proposes  a 2%  Sales Tax  on 'Marketplace  Facilitators'    Both                                                               
Online &  Offline," which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        • Marketplace facilitator means a person who                                                                            
          contracts with a  third-party seller to facilitate                                                                    
          the  sale of  the  third-party seller's  property,                                                                    
          product,  or services  through  a physical  retail                                                                    
          location  or online  marketplace  operated by  the                                                                    
          person.                                                                                                               
          o  The bill  sets a  minimum  sales threshold  for                                                                    
             marketplace facilitators who must remit the tax                                                                    
           at $200,000 or 200 separate transactions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • HB 97 establishes an organized retail theft fund                                                                      
          in the  general fund, intended to  be appropriated                                                                    
          to local  law enforcement agencies  to investigate                                                                    
          and prosecute  organized retail theft  and related                                                                    
          fraud and property crimes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:21:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EVAN ANDERSON,  Staff, Representative  Zack Fields,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of Representative Fields,  prime sponsor,                                                               
presented  the sectional  analysis  for HB  97  [included in  the                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: This section amends AS 11.46.100 to modify                                                                  
     the definition of theft in the criminal code to                                                                            
     include organized retail theft.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: This section amends AS 11.46.120(a) to                                                                      
     update the definition of theft in the first degree,                                                                        
     and it lowers the threshold for these crimes to                                                                            
     $20,000 from $25,000.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3: This section amends AS 11.46.130(a) to                                                                      
     modify the definition of theft in the second degree,                                                                       
     and it lowers the threshold for these crimes to a                                                                          
     range of $500 to $20,000 from the current range of                                                                         
     $750 to $25,000. This section also provides for                                                                            
     individuals with a prior similar conviction in the                                                                         
     last 5 years to be charged with theft in the second                                                                        
     degree.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4: This section amends AS 11.46.140(a) to                                                                      
     modify the definition of theft in the third degree,                                                                        
     and it lowers the threshold for these crimes to a                                                                          
     range of $200 to $500 from the current range of $250                                                                       
     to $750. This section also provides for individuals                                                                        
     with a prior similar conviction in the last 5 years to                                                                     
     be charged with theft in the third degree.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5: This section amends AS 11.46.150(a) to                                                                      
     modify the definition of theft in the fourth degree,                                                                       
     and it lowers the threshold for these crimes to $200                                                                       
     or less from the current range of $250 or less.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6: This section amends the criminal code with                                                                    
     a new section Sec. 11.46.215 defining organized retail                                                                   
     theft.                                                                                                                     
     Section 7: This section amends AS 11.46.220(c), which                                                                  
     deals with the crime of concealment of merchandise, to                                                                     
     conform with previous sections.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8: This section amends AS 11.46.260(b), which                                                                  
     deals with the crime of removal of identification                                                                          
     marks, to conform with previous sections.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9:  This section amends AS  11.46.270(b), which                                                                
     deals  with  the  crime   of  unlawful  possession,  to                                                                    
     conform with previous sections.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10: This section amends AS 11.46.280(d), which                                                                 
     deals with the crime of issuing a bad check, to                                                                            
     conform with previous sections.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11: This section amends AS 11.46.285(b), which                                                                 
     deals with the crime of fraudulent use of an access                                                                        
     device or identification document, to conform with                                                                         
     previous sections.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12: This section amends AS 11.46.360(a), which                                                                 
     deals with the crime of vehicle theft, to conform with                                                                     
     previous sections.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13: This section amends AS 11.46.482(a), which                                                                 
     deals with the crime of criminal mischief, to conform                                                                      
     with previous sections.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14: This section amends AS 11.46.530(b), which                                                                 
     deals with the crime of criminal simulation, to                                                                            
     conform with previous sections.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15: This section amends AS 11.46.620(d), which                                                                 
     deals with the crime of misapplication of property, to                                                                     
     conform with previous sections.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16: This section amends AS 11.46.980(e), which                                                                 
     allows for the combined value of goods or services to                                                                      
     be aggregated. This is a conforming change.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 17: This section adds new paragraphs to AS                                                                     
     11.46.990 to define the terms "aggregate value" and                                                                      
     "commercial establishment."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 18: This section amends AS 12.55.155(c) with a                                                                 
     new paragraph that adds organized retail theft as an                                                                       
     aggravating factor, which allows the sentencing court                                                                      
     to consider a sentence above the presumptive range set                                                                     
     out in AS 12.55.125.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19: This section amends AS 43 with a new                                                                       
     chapter: Chapter 72: Marketplace Facilitator Sales                                                                         
     Tax.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         - Sec. 43.72.010 establishes a 2% sales tax on                                                                         
          sales by marketplace facilitators.                                                                                    
          - Sec. 43.72.020 requires the marketplace                                                                             
          facilitator to collect the tax, hold it in trust                                                                      
          for the state, and remit to Department of                                                                             
        Revenue. There is a minimum sales threshold for                                                                         
          the sales tax of $250,000 or 200 individual                                                                           
          transactions in the previous calendar year.                                                                           
        Marketplace facilitators who meet or exceed the                                                                         
          minimum sales threshold are required to register                                                                      
          and remit the tax to the state, including online                                                                      
          marketplace facilitators without a physical                                                                           
          presence in state.                                                                                                    
          - Sec 43.72.030 establishes liability for payment                                                                     
          of tax.                                                                                                               
        - Sec 43.72.040 provides for the same method of                                                                         
          accounting the person uses for federal tax                                                                            
          purposes.                                                                                                             
          - Sec 43.72.050 requires marketplace facilitators                                                                     
          file a tax return.                                                                                                    
         - Sec. 43.72.060 authorizes the Department to                                                                          
          adopt regulations relating to a rounding method.                                                                      
          - Sec. 43.72.070 allows the marketplace                                                                               
         facilitator to deduct bad debts from their tax                                                                         
          return.                                                                                                               
          - Sec. 43.72.080 provides that the Department may                                                                     
        require a cash deposit as a security, a bond to                                                                         
          guarantee solvency, or that the tax-payer's                                                                           
          corporate officers assume the tax liability.                                                                          
          - Sec 43.72.090 provides that the successor of a                                                                      
         marketplace facilitator who quits business be                                                                          
          liable for remitting any outstanding tax payment.                                                                     
          - Sec 43.72.100 names the tax imposed by this                                                                         
          chapter as a personal debt of the marketplace                                                                         
          facilitator and its personal representatives,                                                                         
          officers, or employees.                                                                                               
          - Sec 43.72.110 establishes an organized retail                                                                       
        theft fund in the general fund. The Legislature                                                                         
          may appropriate funds to law enforcement agencies                                                                     
         to investigate and prosecute organized retail                                                                          
          theft. The fund is not a dedicated fund.                                                                              
         - Sec. 43.72.990 provides definitions for "law                                                                         
          enforcement agency," "marketplace facilitator,"                                                                       
          "online marketplace," "resident," and "third-                                                                         
          party seller." o The definition for "marketplace                                                                      
          facilitator' includes a person who contracts with                                                                     
         a third-party seller to facilitate the sale of                                                                         
          the third-party seller's property through either                                                                      
          a physical retail location or online marketplace.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 20: adds new sections in uncodified law to                                                                       
     provide for an immediate effective date for each of                                                                        
     this bill's sections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:27:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY opened invited testimony on HB 97.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:27:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  STASER,  Owner, Mountain  View  Sports  Center, shared  his                                                               
belief that HB 97 would  take a significant step towards reducing                                                               
retail theft  in Alaska.   He explained that thieves  continue to                                                               
adapt their  strategies.  Most  recently, they have  been hitting                                                               
multiple stores  in one  day and staying  below the  felony theft                                                               
levels at  each store  to avoid higher  punishment.   Holding the                                                               
third-party  sellers  responsible  would undermine  the  thieves'                                                               
ability to make a quick profit,  he said, adding that anything to                                                               
disincentivize retail theft would help  fight illicit drug use as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:29:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEB  BONITO,  President,  Sourdough  Mercantile,  Inc;  Co-Owner,                                                               
Kobak Coffee, said she concurred  with Mr. Staser's testimony and                                                               
expressed her support for the  bill.  She explained that lowering                                                               
the  threshold  would  help fight  theft  and  associated  crime,                                                               
because  thieves  know to  stay  below  the threshold  [to  avoid                                                               
higher punishment].                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:30:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:30 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:30:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY sought questions from committee members.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:31:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  UNDERWOOD  asked  whether the  bill  sponsor  was                                                               
familiar  with the  differences between  the governor's  bill [HB
106] and HB 97.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  stated that  the two bills  were developed                                                               
independently, adding  that he  had asked  for the  Department of                                                               
Law's (DOL) help in critiquing  his bill and determining the best                                                               
vehicle to  advance.   He asked the  committee whether  - without                                                               
imposing a user fee on  the online marketplaces - the legislature                                                               
would be  doing enough  to disrupt  this very  lucrative criminal                                                               
marketplace.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  UNDERWOOD  asked  Mr.  Skidmore  to  explain  the                                                               
differences between HB 106 and HB 97.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:33:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  SKIDMORE,  Deputy   Attorney  General,  Criminal  Division,                                                               
Department   of  Law   (DOL),  said   there  are   three  primary                                                               
difference: firstly, there  is no tax in HB 106;  secondly, HB 97                                                               
would reduce the  class C felony threshold from $250  to $200 and                                                               
the  Class B  felony from  $25,000  to $20,000;  thirdly, HB  106                                                               
would create  a higher level  crime for organized  theft, whereas                                                               
HB 97  would create a new  theory of theft and  focus exclusively                                                               
on commercial retail theft.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:37:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   UNDERWOOD   asked    whether   there   are   any                                                               
constitutional concerns associated with the taxes in HB 97.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE said  he's unaware  of any  constitutional problems                                                               
while acknowledging that he's not an expert on that subject.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FIELDS   stated   that  there's   a   meaningful                                                               
distinction  between "designated"  and "dedicated"  to illustrate                                                               
intent.   He  highlighted one  additional difference  between the                                                               
two proposals:  HB 106 would  three people or more  to constitute                                                               
organized theft, whereas HB 97 would only require two.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:39:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLAIRE   RADFORD,    Attorney,   Legislative    Legal   Services,                                                               
Legislative Affairs  Agency (LAA), in response  to Representative                                                               
Underwood's question about  constitutional concerns, said there's                                                               
a small chance that there may  be a single subject issue with the                                                               
bill.  She explained that under  HB 97, the single subject may be                                                               
commerce; however,  if a  challenge were  brought, a  court could                                                               
decide  that commerce  doesn't  accurately  capture the  criminal                                                               
provisions in the bill.  In  addition, there's a small risk of an                                                               
equal  protection  concern  regarding the  taxes  on  marketplace                                                               
facilitators.   She  explained that  to win  an equal  protection                                                               
challenge, at a  minimum, it would need to be  shown that the tax                                                               
serves a  legitimate governmental  purpose, which  fairly relates                                                               
to taxing only marketplace facilitators.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA   asked  how   the  bill  would   impact  an                                                               
individual   shoplifter  who   sells   [stolen   goods]  on   the                                                               
marketplace.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS said if the  shoplifter were selling a $225                                                               
jacket, they would be [prosecuted]  at an elevated penalty level.                                                               
Beyond that,  the bill would  attempt to correct  the marketplace                                                               
distortion  whereby  online  facilitators are  fueling  organized                                                               
crime and level the playing field for local establishments.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA considered  the  example  of people  selling                                                               
jewelry  on  Instagram  and questioned  the  level  of  formality                                                               
that's required to be in contract with the third-party seller.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS questioned how  to most accurately describe                                                               
these online  third-party vendors, such as  Facebook Marketplace,                                                               
Amazon, and Instagram, in the bill.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. RADFORD offered to follow up with the requested information.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:45:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA shared  her  understanding  that the  Alaska                                                               
Remote  Seller  Sales  Tax Commission  repealed  the  transaction                                                               
threshold related  to a  sales tax  in January  2025.   She asked                                                               
whether HB 97 would create a new tax or reinstate a prior tax.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  did not  know the  answer.   He reiterated                                                               
that the  bill would  establish a  new user  fee to  target third                                                               
party sellers that are vectors for organized crime.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA pointed  out that  price negotiations  often                                                               
occur on  these third-party marketplaces  and asked  how accurate                                                               
the two percent sales tax would be.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  responded if the e-commerce  is transacted                                                               
online, it's more likely the tax would be captured.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:47:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EISCHEID  questioned  the  rationale  behind  the                                                               
minimum  threshold   of  $250,000   in  sales  or   200  separate                                                               
transactions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  reasoned that the  goal is to  target high                                                               
volume online retailers, as opposed to  a person who sells a bike                                                               
to their neighbors.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EISCHEID  asked  whether the  minimum  thresholds                                                               
were based on research.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON admitted  that from a previous version  of the bill,                                                               
the number had increased after feedback from stakeholders.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EISCHEID asked whether  the bill would incentivize                                                               
criminals to steal lower value items more often.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS said  the  lower threshold  would make  it                                                               
harder to  steal things that  smaller businesses need to  stay in                                                               
business.   He  added  that  the goal  is  to protect  additional                                                               
product for local store owners.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:50:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   GRAY  speculated   that  lowering   the  thresholds,   in                                                               
combination with  inflation, would  create new crimes  for people                                                               
who wouldn't otherwise  be charged, which he  characterized as an                                                               
aggressive change.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  shared  several examples  and  emphasized                                                               
that $200  may not seem  like a lot  of money, but  it negatively                                                               
impacts  store owners'  margins  when  the volume  is  high.   He                                                               
reiterated  that  the  bill  would  target  local  businesses  in                                                               
downtown and midtown Anchorage that he'd like to see stay open.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY asked how two people constitutes organized crime.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  clarified  that   these  two  people  are                                                               
typically  considered  "boosters"  and  operating as  part  of  a                                                               
larger  organized   crime  network.     He  added  that   if  law                                                               
enforcement  had   ample  evidence   to  prove  that   these  two                                                               
individuals   were  part   of  a   broader  network,   "let  them                                                               
prosecute."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY contended that one person  could also be part a larger                                                               
network and committing crimes on its behalf.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS responded,  "that is  a very  fair point,"                                                               
adding that  the committee could  make that change  with guidance                                                               
from Legislative Legal Services and Department of Law (DOL).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:54:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA asked how retail  theft has shifted as online                                                               
marketplaces have become more prevalent.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS offered  to follow  up with  the requested                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY announced that the bill would be held over.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 97 Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 Supporting Document ASIS Organized Retail Crime Megan Gates - Oct 2023.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 Ver.A.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 Supporting Document - OrganizedRetailCrimeHearing_HouseHomeland_USChamber.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 Supporting Document OrganizedRetailTheft_Congress - USChamber.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 Supporting Document The fight against stolen products on Amazon and Facebook Marketplace - CNBC.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 Support Doc Homeland Security.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 Support Doc National Insurance Crime Bureau.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 Supporting Doc Customs Enforcement.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 Supporting Document - Honda Memo Copy.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 Version A.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 FN Courts.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 FN DOC.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 FN DPS.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 FN Law.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 FN Public Advocacy.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 FN Public Defender Agency.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 74 Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 FN Courts.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 FN DOC.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 FN Tax Division.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 FN Public Defenders.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 FN Public Advocacy.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 FN DPS.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 FN LAW.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 ver. A Sectional Analysis 2.17.25.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 - Organized Retail Crime Bill Presentation.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 CCIA Opposition.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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HB 97 Emails in Opposition.pdf HJUD 2/26/2025 1:00:00 PM
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