Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

03/11/2025 03:15 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to a Call of the Chair --
+= HB 91 MARIJUANA: TAX/RETAIL STORES/REGISTRATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 91(STA) Out of Committee
+= HB 43 ELECTIONS, VOTING, BALLOTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 104 ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+= HB 119 GAS PIPELINE FAIRBANKS SPUR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 30 OFFICE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 30(STA) Out of Committee
        HB 91-MARIJUANA: TAX/RETAIL STORES/REGISTRATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 91, "An  Act relating to the  lawful operation                                                               
of retail  marijuana stores;  relating to  marijuana cultivation;                                                               
relating  to   the  registration  of   marijuana  establishments;                                                               
relating  to  marijuana taxes;  relating  to  the duties  of  the                                                               
Department of Revenue; and providing for an effective date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:51:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  moved  to  adopt Amendment  1  to  HB  91,                                                               
labeled  34-LS0528\A.2,  C.  Radford,  3/5/25,.   Which  read  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 17:                                                                                                           
          Delete "a new subsection"                                                                                             
          Insert "new subsections"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          Page 5, following line 17:                                                                                            
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(g)  The K-12 public education fund is                                                                               
     established  in the  general fund.  In addition  to the                                                                    
     accounting  under  (c) and  (f)  of  this section,  the                                                                    
     Department of  Administration shall  separately account                                                                    
     for 25 percent of the  tax collected under this section                                                                    
     and  deposit it  into the  K-12 public  education fund.                                                                    
     The legislature  may use  the annual  estimated balance                                                                    
     in the  fund to  make appropriations to  the Department                                                                    
     of  Education  and  Early  Development  for  grants  to                                                                    
     school  districts  for   classroom  resources,  teacher                                                                    
     salaries,  student  support services,  and  educational                                                                    
     infrastructure improvements."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsection accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  explained that  Amendment 1 would  place 25                                                               
percent of the  tax collected under "this section"  into the K-12                                                               
public education  fund.  She  shared that although  typically she                                                               
does not like  to designate funds, she would like  "to align this                                                               
with the public expectation."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:52:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK asked for confirmation  that the funding pinpointed                                                               
under Amendment 1  is money that would otherwise  be allocated to                                                               
the  undesignated  general  fund  (UGF), not  money  allotted  to                                                               
address recidivism reduction or marijuana treatment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE confirmed that is correct.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked if  there  is  an added  expense                                                               
associated with establishing a fund.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE answered,  "I'm  under  no impression  that                                                               
this is a new fund."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT observed  that the  amendment specifies                                                               
"is established in the general fund".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  said it  was  her  intent  to use  a  pre-                                                               
existing account and "divert it that direction."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  pointed to lines 12-14,  as numbered in                                                               
Amendment  1, and  she  said  it sounds  like  a different  grant                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  suggested a representative from  the Department of                                                               
Revenue may be able to shed some light on the topic.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:55:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON  SPANOS, Deputy  Director,  Tax  Division, Department  of                                                               
Revenue,  stated that  he is  not the  best person  to ask  about                                                               
funds.   He said he  is familiar  with funds that  the department                                                               
currently  deposits "the  marijuana  money" into.   He  indicated                                                               
that  that is  set up  in statute  but said  he is  "not familiar                                                               
enough to know if that's necessary  every time."  He said he does                                                               
not see a  specific K-12 fund discussed in the  fiscal notes.  He                                                               
recommended asking  the question  of the  Office of  Management &                                                               
Budget (OMB).   That said, he  said there would be  no additional                                                               
cost for  the Tax  Division to  administer a  new fund  after the                                                               
initial cost of setting it up.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:57:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK said  that as prime sponsor of the  bill, she liked                                                               
the Amendment 1.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE, in  response  to Chair  Carrick, said  she                                                               
thinks the key is that  "the legislature may" [emphasis on "may"]                                                               
us [the 25  percent specified under Amendment 1 and  it would "go                                                               
to education."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:59:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked what might  be taken away from the                                                               
Department of Health (DOH) if Amendment 1 were adopted.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE answered  that  there would  be no  "taking                                                               
away"  because the  25 percent  Amendment 1  proposes to  use for                                                               
education is currently going into the general fund.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:00:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY commented that  she really liked Amendment 1                                                               
but  cautioned  that  it  could make  another  grant  program  to                                                               
administer.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:01:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  if  the funding  from  DEED  is                                                               
always called a grant.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:02:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:02 p.m. to 4:09 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:09:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK moved to adopt  Conceptual Amendment 1 to Amendment                                                               
1, with  the following pages  and lines as numbered  in Amendment                                                               
1:                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7                                                                                                             
     Delete "The K-12 public education fund is established                                                                      
     in the general fund."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 10                                                                                                            
     Delete "K-12"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 10, following "fund."                                                                                         
     Delete "The  legislature may  use the  annual estimated                                                                    
     balance  in  the fund  to  make  appropriations to  the                                                                    
     Department  of  Education  and  Early  Development  for                                                                    
     grants  to school  districts  for classroom  resources,                                                                    
     teacher   salaries,  student   support  services,   and                                                                    
     educational infrastructure improvements."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:10:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK announced,  there being  no objection,  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1 to Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  expressed  that   although  he  was  not                                                               
opposed to Amendment  1, as amended, he has  always been hesitant                                                               
to  tie  education funding  to  [sin]  taxes.   He  said  putting                                                               
education on  the back  of these  kinds of taxes  puts him  in an                                                               
uneasy state.   Further, he  expressed concern that  revenue from                                                               
the  marijuana  industry is  decreasing.    He followed  that  by                                                               
emphasizing his support  for a focus on the  issues of recidivism                                                               
and "the marijuana misuse prevention component."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:13:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  said she  understood that  the bill  in its                                                               
current  form   would  drop   tax  [revenue]   significantly  and                                                               
questioned whether  the general fund  would be needed to  make up                                                               
the  lost  revenue  for  the   behavioral  health  treatment  and                                                               
recidivism grants.   She asked what the existing  grants would be                                                               
losing.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:14:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  remarked that it  is hard to  anticipate potential                                                               
increase or  decreases.  She stated  that the 6 percent  has been                                                               
modeled to  "neutralize" the current revenue  for those programs.                                                               
She  noted  that  other legislation  could  affect  outcomes  but                                                               
speculated there would not be a loss.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:15:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  inquired whether the  [marijuana] industry                                                               
had   paid  back   the  start-up   money   the  legislature   had                                                               
[designated].    If  not,  he  stated,  he  does  not  think  the                                                               
legislature should give the industry more money.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:16:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SPANOS, at  the invitation of Chair Carrick,  said that "this                                                               
was  a voter  initiative" and  DOR did  not have  a fiscal  note;                                                               
therefore, he does  not know what the costs were.   That said, he                                                               
reported  that  DOR  collected  the  following  from  the  Alaska                                                               
marijuana industry,  25 percent of which  goes to the GF:   $27.2                                                               
million in  fiscal year  2024 (FY  24); $29.5  million in  FY 23;                                                               
$28.6 in FY 22; and $30 million in FY 21.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:17:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK removed  her objection to Amendment  1, as amended.                                                               
There being  no further objection,  Amendment 1, as  amended, was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:18:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE   said  she   shares  concerns   of  others                                                               
regarding "making the  right move."  She said it  would be better                                                               
to collect  tax "on the retail  end," which is what  is supported                                                               
under HB  91.  She  indicated that  she would recommend  a sunset                                                               
date to the  next committee of referral  to allow reconsideration                                                               
of the  tax in 10 years.   She said  she would not object  to the                                                               
bill moving forward but expressed that it needs further review.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK entertained a motion.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:20:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at ease at 4:21 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:21:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY moved  to report HB 191, as  amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes and to allow  Legislative Legal Services to make any                                                               
necessary  conforming changes.   There  being no  objection, CSHB
91(STA)  was reported  out of  the House  State Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 91 Fiscal Note DCCED-AMCO-03-10-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 91
CSHB30 Ver I HSTA.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 30
HB 30 HSTA Summary of Changes Ver N to I.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 30
CSHB 43 HSTA Ver I.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 43 Written Testimony 2-13-25 Packet 2.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 43 Support LTR ACLU 2-13-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB104 Sponsor Statement Version N 2.26.2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Version N.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Version N Sectional Analysis 2.26.2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DOA-SSOA-03-07-2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DPS-AST-3-7-2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DPS-CDVSA-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Fiscal Note DPS-VCCB-3-7-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB104 Version N Written Testimony as of 3.01.2025.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 104
HB119 Support Letter GVEA 3-5-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119
HB119 Support Letter IGU 3-5-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119
HB 119 Backup FNSB Resolution.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119
CSHB43 Summary of Changes Ver N to I.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 43
HB 91 Amendment A.2.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 91
HB 30 Support LTR Launch Alaska 3-10-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 30
HB 119 HSTA Follow Up AGDC 3-11-25.pdf HSTA 3/11/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 119