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04/30/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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HOUSE BILL NO. 91                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to the  lawful  operation of  retail                                                                    
     marijuana  stores; relating  to marijuana  cultivation;                                                                    
     relating    to    the   registration    of    marijuana                                                                    
     establishments; relating  to marijuana  taxes; relating                                                                    
     to  the  duties  of  the  Department  of  Revenue;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:52:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked members to  hold questions until after                                                                    
the presentation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ASHLEY  CARRICK,   SPONSOR,  introduced  the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:53:55 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:54:16 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carrick introduced  the  bill. She  remarked                                                                    
that the bill  may look familiar to  some committee members.                                                                    
The  legislation was  a reiteration  of similar  legislation                                                                    
passed in the House  by a 36 to 3 margin  in the prior year.                                                                    
She stated  that 10 members  of the House  Finance Committee                                                                    
had previously  voted in  favor of  the bill.  She explained                                                                    
that HB 91 stemmed from  challenges in the budding marijuana                                                                    
industry.  In  2014,  Alaska Voters  legalized  recreational                                                                    
marijuana.  After  initial  growth, the  industry  has  seen                                                                    
stagnation, which  had once again  opened the door  to black                                                                    
and  gray  market  activity.   In  2022,  Governor  Dunleavy                                                                    
convened the  Advisory Taskforce on  Recreational Marijuana,                                                                    
and  its  number  one  recommendation   was  tax  reform  in                                                                    
addition   to  various   policy  reforms.   The  legislation                                                                    
included  both  tax  reform and  policy  changes  that  will                                                                    
support  the  industry,  making   it  more  sustainable  and                                                                    
allowed it to flourish for years  to come and close the door                                                                    
on the  black market. She  shared the following  facts about                                                                    
the marijuana industry:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          In FY 24 the Marijuana industry brought in $27.2                                                                      
       Million in revenue. It was the sole source of                                                                            
          revenue for the following funds:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    o    $13.5 million to the Recidivism Reduction Fund                                                                         
     o    $6.7 million to the Marijuana Education and                                                                           
          Treatment Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          • Nearly $48.3 million in wages (2022)                                                                                
               475 Active Licenses (Feb 2025)                                                                                   
          • 5828 Marijuana Handler Permits (Feb 2025)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Required for anyone involved in marijuana commerce.                                                                      
Representative Carrick  believed that  action must  be taken                                                                    
to stabilize  and grow the  industry. She added that  in the                                                                    
prior committee,  The House State Affairs  Committee changed                                                                    
the designation  of 25 percent  of the funds for  revenue to                                                                    
be designated to the Public  Education Fund versus the prior                                                                    
designation to UGF.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:57:23 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:09:43 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  that the  committee  was  currently                                                                    
receiving a presentation on HB 91.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carrick  wrapped up her opening  and prepared                                                                    
remarks.   She   emphasized   that  the   state   must   act                                                                    
"expeditiously to stabilize the  marijuana industry" and the                                                                    
state  revenue from  the industry.  She asked  her staff  to                                                                    
provide a brief presentation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
STUART   RELAY,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   ASHLEY   CARRICK,                                                                    
provided a  PowerPoint presentation titled "HB  91 Marijuana                                                                    
Tax  Reform" (copy  on file).  He  began on  slide 2  titled                                                                    
 Recent History of Marijuana Policy in Alaska                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • In 2014 Alaska voters legalized recreational                                                                             
     marijuana.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • In 2022 Governor Mike Dunleavy established the                                                                           
     Advisory Taskforce on Recreational Marijuana and                                                                           
     its final report was published in January 2023.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • In 2024 the House passed HB 119 which included                                                                           
     many of the taskforce's recommendations, but that                                                                          
     bill did not pass the Senate before the end of the                                                                         
     33rd Legislature.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • HB 91 has a nearly identical tax structure to HB 119                                                                     
     and picks up the conversation about marijuana tax                                                                          
     reform where it left off last year.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Relay  elaborated that  the prior bill  had a  7 percent                                                                    
sales tax amended  from 6 percent on the House  floor and HB
91  had  a  6  percent  sales tax.  He  moved  to  taskforce                                                                    
recommendations    on    slide     3    titled     Taskforce                                                                    
Recommendations included in HB 91                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Recommendation 1                                                                                                           
     Reduce excise tax to 25% of current rate. Repeal the                                                                       
     excise tax after a transition period and implement a                                                                       
     sales tax.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Recommendation 10                                                                                                          
     Allow for product transfers between all license types.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Recommendation 11                                                                                                          
     Biannual licenses.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Relay delineated  that Sections  1 and  10 of  the bill                                                                    
reflected  recommendation 10  that allowed  "upstream sales"                                                                    
selling unsold  or unused  product back  to producers  to be                                                                    
disposed of  safely and reused  in other products.  He added                                                                    
that  Sections  3 through  9  related  to recommendation  11                                                                    
regarding biannual  licensing. He explained that  it allowed                                                                    
marijuana retail facilities to  obtain two-year licenses. He                                                                    
turned to  slide 4 titled  "Marijuana Revenue in  Alaska, FY                                                                    
24                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     $27.2 million total                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     $13.5 million DGF (50 percent)                                                                                             
     Recidivism Reduction Fund                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     $6.7 million DGF (25 percent)                                                                                              
     Marijuana Education and Treatment Fund                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     $6.9 million UGF (25 percent)                                                                                              
     Public Education Fund                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:13:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Relay advanced  to slide 5 titled  "Marijuana Tax Reform                                                                    
in HB 91                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Provides immediate tax relief by reducing the excise                                                                     
     tax from $50 per ounce, to $12.50 per ounce on                                                                             
     marijuana (Sec 11, effective Jul 1, 2025)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • Repeals the excise tax (Sec 18, effective Jan 1,                                                                         
     2026)                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Establishes a 6% Sales Tax on all Marijuana Sales                                                                        
     (Sec 13, effective Jan 1, 2026)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Relay pointed  out that the bill aligned  with the first                                                                    
recommendation on the task force  of providing immediate tax                                                                    
relief.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:14:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Relay discussed slide 6   Marijuana Policy Changes in HB
91                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   • Allow "upstream sales" so that marijuana stores can                                                                        
     sell products back to producers (Sec 1,10).                                                                                
     Taskforce recommendation 10.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • Require a tracking number for each crop of                                                                               
   marijuana rather than each individual plant (Sec 2).                                                                         
   All other agricultural products are tracked per crop.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Biannual licenses for marijuana establishments                                                                           
     (Sec 3-9). Taskforce recommendation 11.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • Quarterly statements, tax payments (Sec 14).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • Requires DOR to establish at least one tax                                                                               
     collection facility in each of the four judicial                                                                           
     districts (Fairbanks, Juneau, Nome, and Anchorage)                                                                         
     (Sec 16).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Relay  explained  that  the   change  from  monthly  to                                                                    
quarterly  tax payments  eased the  burden on  producers who                                                                    
had to physically  deliver their payments in  cash. He noted                                                                    
that a collection box already existed in Anchorage.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:15:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Relay  advanced to slide  7 titled  "Differences between                                                                    
HB 91 (Ver. A) and SB 73 (Ver. G):                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • SB 73 by Senator Claman is another marijuana                                                                             
     tax reform bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Only includes biannual licenses, does not                                                                                
     include the other policy reforms to support the                                                                            
     industry outlined in HB 91.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • SB 73 lowers the excise tax to $12 per ounce.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • SB 73 does not recoup lost revenue from excise                                                                           
     tax cut, leading to approximately $14 million in                                                                           
     lost revenue.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster   held   questions  and   OPENED   invited                                                                    
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BAILEY   STUART,  CHAIR,   MARIJUANA   CONTROL  BOARD   (via                                                                    
teleconference), relayed  that the  board reviewed  the bill                                                                    
and appreciated the sponsor's efforts  to address the issues                                                                    
and  understood the  need  for  thoughtful consideration  of                                                                    
taxation  for the  industry. However,  due to  concerns over                                                                    
implementing  a statewide  sales tax  at 6  percent and  the                                                                    
broader  implications  that may  arise,  the  board did  not                                                                    
fully  support  the bill.  She  expressed  concern over  the                                                                    
issue of "double taxation." She  indicated that the products                                                                    
on  the market  were already  subject to  an excise  tax and                                                                    
would also be taxed under  the proposed statewide sales tax.                                                                    
She felt  that it  could result  in an  unintended financial                                                                    
burden.  She furthered  that the  board recognized  the need                                                                    
for a  value based tax  structure especially to  prepare for                                                                    
interstate  commerce.  However,  the  board  wanted  to  see                                                                    
further safeguards  and attention to a  thoughtful approach.                                                                    
The board was committed  to continuing the conversation once                                                                    
the  industry had  relief, lessening  immediate pressure  of                                                                    
implementing a statewide sales tax  and allowing for a "more                                                                    
thorough  and considered  discussion."  She emphasized  that                                                                    
the board was in strong  support of immediate tax relief and                                                                    
a   long-term  solution.   She   commented  that   marijuana                                                                    
legalization  sparked  economic  growth in  the  agriculture                                                                    
sector  and would  continue if  the  market instability  was                                                                    
addressed. The  current excise tax  model posed  a challenge                                                                    
with  the future  possibility  of  interstate commerce.  She                                                                    
noted  that products  from out-of-state  may entirely  avoid                                                                    
taxation.  Currently, the  marijuana  industry was  fighting                                                                    
three  fronts   with  the  most   urgent  issue   being  the                                                                    
"punitive"  flat tax  structure  of $50  per pound  totaling                                                                    
$800  per   pound,  resulting  in  an   effective  tax  rate                                                                    
approaching  50  percent.  She  delineated  that  the  legal                                                                    
market was forced  to compete with two  illicit markets: one                                                                    
operated illegally, and  the other existed in  a "gray area"                                                                    
involving  hemp products.  The issue  made it  difficult for                                                                    
the  legal  market to  remain  viable  when held  to  strict                                                                    
regulations  and high  taxation while  unregulated operators                                                                    
continued without oversight or prosecution.                                                                                     
5:20:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stuart  continued providing  remarks.  She  spoke to  a                                                                    
concern that was discussed in  a prior hearing regarding how                                                                    
the legal market could compete  with the illicit market. She                                                                    
declared that currently, legal market  prices were unable to                                                                    
match  the illicit  market prices.  She delineated  that the                                                                    
illegal market  stayed stagnant for  decades with  3.5 grams                                                                    
costing $40.00  until the legal industry  entered the market                                                                    
inducing competition.  The board's top priority  was to make                                                                    
the  legal  market  the  preferred  choice  through  ensured                                                                    
safety,  transparency,  and  compliance. She  described  the                                                                    
cost of  the legal market, which  she considered investments                                                                    
in public  health, safety, and  trust. She felt  these value                                                                    
factors  should be  considered in  the legal  market besides                                                                    
the  price.   She  related  that  while   the  legal  market                                                                    
businesses were closing the illegal  market was thriving. In                                                                    
2024,  the  Department of  Public  Safety  (DPS) seized  360                                                                    
pounds  of illegal  marijuana which  increased significantly                                                                    
from  2023, underscoring  the importance  of tax  reforms to                                                                    
support   the   legal   industry.  The   seizures   occurred                                                                    
incidentally  and  not  through  targeted  enforcement.  She                                                                    
acknowledged the state's deficit  and the effect of lowering                                                                    
the  excise  tax and  acknowledged  the  reduction in  state                                                                    
revenue  was approximately  $9.6 million.  The board  shared                                                                    
the  concern  but believed  the  tax  designations could  be                                                                    
revisited.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:22:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stuart   continued  providing  prepared   remarks.  She                                                                    
informed  the  committee  that  Ballot  Measure  2  did  not                                                                    
require 50  percent of the  excise tax be designated  to the                                                                    
Recidivism Reduction Fund. The  provision was included in SB
91 [Omnibus  Crim Law &  Procedure; Corrections,  Chapter 36                                                                    
SLA  16, 07/11/2016]  which was  subsequently repealed.  She                                                                    
relayed that  the 2024 Alaska Criminal  Justice Data Analyst                                                                    
Commission report,  showed that recidivism had  continued to                                                                    
rise since  the implantation  of the  excise tax.  She added                                                                    
that in  the prior year,  the industry overpaid  the renewal                                                                    
fee  to fund  the AMCO  office by  $1.8 million.  The excess                                                                    
funding was returned  to UGF. She suggested  that the excess                                                                    
could provide  an opportunity  to adjust  current designated                                                                    
funding to offset the impact of a tax reduction while                                                                           
still  supporting critical  state functions.  She felt  that                                                                    
the issue  extended beyond  personal beliefs  over marijuana                                                                    
use. She  stressed that the  issue was  "fundamentally about                                                                    
public  health  and  safety and  ensuring  tax  revenue  was                                                                    
collected  and  reinvested in  the  economy  from the  "only                                                                    
homegrown" state industry. She  reiterated a few differences                                                                    
between  the  illicit  and  legal  marijuana  industry.  She                                                                    
addressed Section 2 of the  bill that proposed placing batch                                                                    
tagging  requirements in  statute. She  noted that  over the                                                                    
prior  year the  board had  carefully revised  plant tagging                                                                    
regulations   to   balance   public  health,   safety,   and                                                                    
enforcement   needs.  The   board   already  had   statutory                                                                    
authority  to  implement   batch  tagging  regulations.  She                                                                    
shared that  in the prior  year the board  transitioned from                                                                    
clone  tagging  to  batch tagging  and  raised  the  tagging                                                                    
threshold from  8 inches  to 18  inches. However,  the board                                                                    
learned   that   moving   to  full   batch   tagging   would                                                                    
significantly  increase  costs;   charging  cultivators  per                                                                    
plant versus per tag, more  than doubling the state's annual                                                                    
subscription  hosting fees.  She understood  that a  revised                                                                    
fiscal note showed the increased  fees incorporated into the                                                                    
bill. She concluded  that the board was  motivated to return                                                                    
year after year to address  excise tax reform for the reason                                                                    
that  if interstate  commerce was  allowed,  the excise  tax                                                                    
would only apply to Alaska  businesses causing a significant                                                                    
disadvantage. She urged the committee  to address the excise                                                                    
tax and eliminate  batch tagging from the bill  and leave it                                                                    
to the regulatory process.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:26:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster moved  to review the fiscal  notes. He asked                                                                    
if Ms. Stuart could submit  her written comments. Ms. Stuart                                                                    
replied  affirmatively.  She  would   provide  them  to  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  RICHARD,  DIRECTOR,  ALCOHOL  AND  MARIJUANA  CONTROL                                                                    
OFFICE,  DEPARTMENT  OF  COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT  (via teleconference),  reviewed the  new fiscal                                                                    
impact note  for the Department  of Commerce,  Community and                                                                    
Economic Development (DCCED) allocated  to AMCO, dated April                                                                    
29, 2025.  He explained that  the fiscal note  reflected the                                                                    
marijuana  licensing registration  fees shift  from annually                                                                    
to biennially and also included  $10 thousand for regulatory                                                                    
changes. In  addition, the  legislation changed  from single                                                                    
plant  tagging to  batch plant  tagging  at a  cost of  $250                                                                    
thousand.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:29:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN WORLEY,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES  DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  CORRECTIONS  (via  teleconference),  discussed  the  new                                                                    
fiscal impact  note (change in revenues)  for the Department                                                                    
of  Corrections  (DOC)  allocated to  Community  Residential                                                                    
Centers  (CRC).   He  indicated   that  the   bill  impacted                                                                    
community  residential centers  and  halfway  houses due  to                                                                    
reduced   revenues  resulting   in   lower  dollar   amounts                                                                    
appropriated  to  DOC  from  the  Recidivism  Fund.  Without                                                                    
replacement  funding,   these  efforts  would   be  severely                                                                    
impacted,   if  not   eliminated.   He   pointed  out   that                                                                    
Undesignated General  Funds (UGF) replacement  funding would                                                                    
be necessary to  offset a $2,573 million  loss of recidivism                                                                    
reduction funds  in FY 2026.  The same amount  was necessary                                                                    
as backfill in  FY 2027 and lost revenue  ranged from $2.222                                                                    
million in FY 2028 to $1.758 million in 2013.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRACY  DOMPELING, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  BEHAVIORAL HEALTH,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (via  teleconference), reviewed the new                                                                    
fiscal  impact  note  for the  Department  of  Health  (DOH)                                                                    
allocated  to  the  Behavioral Health  Administration  dated                                                                    
April 7, 2025. She delineated  that the reductions from lost                                                                    
marijuana tax revenue went to  support several grants within                                                                    
DOH  from the  Recidivism Fund  and the  Marijuana Education                                                                    
Tax Fund grants.  She listed the specific  grants that would                                                                    
be  impacted. Additional  general fund  appropriations would                                                                    
be necessary to  maintain the grants. The  second new fiscal                                                                    
impact  note allocated  to Behavioral  Health Treatment  and                                                                    
Recovery  Grants  identified  the reductions  of  Designated                                                                    
General  Funds  (DGF)  from  the  Recidivism  Fund  and  the                                                                    
Marijuana Education  Tax Fund  and the  accompanying general                                                                    
fund  dollars needed  to replace  the lost  funds for  grant                                                                    
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:35:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER ROGERS,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES  DIRECTOR, DIVISION                                                                    
OF    PUBLIC    HEALTH,    DEPARTMENT   OF    HEALTH    (via                                                                    
teleconference),  highlighted  the  new fiscal  impact  note                                                                    
dated April 7, 2025, for  the Division of Public Health, DOH                                                                    
allocated   to  Chronic   Disease   Prevention  and   Health                                                                    
Promotion. She  indicated that the Marijuana  Education Fund                                                                    
that  supported the  Youth Services  Grant Program  would be                                                                    
reduced, and  the department  was requesting  replacement of                                                                    
the revenue loss with general funds.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:36:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANNA    THORNTON,   ADMINISTRATIVE    SERVICES   DIRECTOR,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC  SAFETY (via teleconference), addressed                                                                    
the  new fiscal  impact note  for the  Department of  Public                                                                    
Safety (DPS)  allocated to the Council  on Domestic Violence                                                                    
and Sexual Assault (CDVSA) dated  April 7, 2025. She related                                                                    
that  the department  received the  spring forecast  showing                                                                    
the  reduction  in  the   Recidivism  Reduction  Fund  which                                                                    
supported  programs within  the CDVSA.  In FY  26, the  lost                                                                    
revenue amounted to $597,200  thousand and showed reductions                                                                    
in the  outyears until 2031,  with a loss of  $408 thousand.                                                                    
The  fiscal  note  requested  the  funds  be  replaced  with                                                                    
general funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:37:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON  SPANOS, DEPUTY  DIRECTOR, TAX  DIVISION, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  REVENUE (via  teleconference), reviewed  the new  fiscal                                                                    
impact note  for the Department  of Revenue  (DOR) allocated                                                                    
to  the  Tax Division  dated  March  4,  2025. He  began  by                                                                    
describing the revenue  impact from the bill.  The change in                                                                    
FY 26  had a $9.7  million reduction  in revenue due  to the                                                                    
change to  the tax  rate from  $50 per  ounce to  $12.50 per                                                                    
ounce.  The  projected  revenue  reductions  were  allocated                                                                    
between  three  funds,  per  the  current  statute,  at  the                                                                    
following   percentages:   Recidivism   Fund   50   percent;                                                                    
Marijuana  Education  and  Treatment Fund  25  percent;  and                                                                    
Unrestricted General Fund  25 percent. He pointed  to page 3                                                                    
of  the  fiscal note  that  contained  a chart  listing  the                                                                    
change  in  revenues  for  each  fund.  He  noted  that  the                                                                    
implementation costs were  primarily due to the  change to a                                                                    
retail sales  tax and would  require significant  changes to                                                                    
the  Tax  Revenue  Management System  (TRMS)  that  included                                                                    
identifying the  taxpayers and building a  sales tax module.                                                                    
The department estimated  a cost to expedite  the rollout of                                                                    
the module so  it would be ready in time  at $2 million. The                                                                    
bill  required the  department to  establish  "at least  one                                                                    
facility in  each judicial district" or  cash depository for                                                                    
cash  tax  collection.  He briefly  described  the  way  the                                                                    
department  would implement  the  provision  and pointed  to                                                                    
further  details contained  in the  fiscal note  analysis on                                                                    
page 3.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:41:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster moved to committee members' questions.                                                                          
Co-Chair Foster asked  if there was a  total amount required                                                                    
to  backfill  all  the   lost  UGF.  Representative  Carrick                                                                    
replied that she did not know but would follow up.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski   referred  to   [batch  tagging                                                                    
discussion]  the  per crop  amount  taxed  versus the  prior                                                                    
individual tax per  plant. He wondered how  many plants were                                                                    
in  a crop  and  what the  tax rate  currently  was and  the                                                                    
proposed rate  per crop. Mr.  Relay replied that he  did not                                                                    
have the number on hand, but he would follow up.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carrick  interjected that the issue  had been                                                                    
substantively  addressed  through regulation.  She  strongly                                                                    
encouraged the  committee to amend  the bill  by eliminating                                                                    
Section 2 that was no longer relevant.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:44:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson looked forward  to receiving Ms. Stuart's                                                                    
written   testimony.   He   asked  about   the   number   of                                                                    
dispensaries  in  Anchorage. Ms.  Stuart  did  not have  the                                                                    
information  on  hand.  She directed  the  question  to  the                                                                    
department. Co-Chair Josephson recalled  that the number was                                                                    
around  75. He  asked if  the board  had considered  through                                                                    
regulation or legislation an equivalent  to a DBL licensure.                                                                    
He wondered  why it  was important  to protect  75 different                                                                    
licenses  in Anchorage.  Ms. Stuart  answered that  the more                                                                    
retail stores available would help  the legal market compete                                                                    
with the  illicit market. There  was controversy  within the                                                                    
industry about  the number of  licenses that there  were and                                                                    
whether  the  number  was sustainable  for  the  state.  She                                                                    
pointed  out that  the goal  was to  incentivize the  public                                                                    
health and safety aspect  of consuming marijuana. Therefore,                                                                    
there were no limitations on the number of licenses.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:46:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson deduced  that if there were  half as many                                                                    
dispensaries  they  would  begin  to thrive.  He  asked  for                                                                    
comment. Ms.  Stuart believed a reduction  in licenses could                                                                    
improve the economic situation in the industry.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:47:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked Ms.  Stuart what  timeframe was                                                                    
necessary  to  avoid a  duplicative  tax.  She thought  that                                                                    
currently it  was six  months, which  was before  the excise                                                                    
tax  was lowered  and  the sales  tax  was implemented.  Ms.                                                                    
Stuart answered that  the sales tax would  be implemented on                                                                    
January   1,   2026,   and  the   excise   tax   would   end                                                                    
simultaneously. She  believed there was data  in the state's                                                                    
tracking system  that would narrow  what the  timeline would                                                                    
look  like.  She  was  unsure of  the  proper  timeline  and                                                                    
suggested researching the data  was necessary. A duplicative                                                                    
tax  would impact  the  products on  the  market and  public                                                                    
health  and  safety.  Representative  Hannan  asked  if  Ms.                                                                    
Stuart's  concern was  with  the sales  tax  and excise  tax                                                                    
overlapping.  She questioned  whether 6  months would  be an                                                                    
adequate time  period. Ms.  Stuart replied  that would  be a                                                                    
good  timeline and  that Representative  Hannan was   on the                                                                    
right path" regarding the timeline.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan directed  a question  to Mr.  Spanos.                                                                    
She cited the DOR fiscal note  and reported that she did not                                                                    
see the  generation of revenue  from a sales tax.  She asked                                                                    
where it  was accounted for  on the fiscal note.  Mr. Spanos                                                                    
replied  that the  fiscal note  was based  off DOR's  spring                                                                    
revenue forecast , which included  revenue under the current                                                                    
tax structure at $50 per  ounce. The fiscal note anticipated                                                                    
a decrease due  to the sales tax. In FY  2031, the tax would                                                                    
amount  to   $6.6  million  less  than   under  the  current                                                                    
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:50:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  understood the note was  based on the                                                                    
revenue  forecast, but  it  did not  reflect  what the  bill                                                                    
would do. She asked if DOR  could produce a fiscal note that                                                                    
predicted  the amount  of sale  tax revenue.  She understood                                                                    
there would be  loss under the excise tax,  but there should                                                                    
be  a gain  on  sales  tax. Mr.  Spanos  responded that  the                                                                    
department  would provide  the details.  The current  fiscal                                                                    
note showed the net effect  of the two taxes. Representative                                                                    
Hannan understood it  was a net effect.  She appreciated the                                                                    
ability to learn the details to make informed decisions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Carrick   interjected   that   a   previous                                                                    
iteration  of the  legislation  had  an implementation  date                                                                    
delayed for 18  months. She informed the  committee that she                                                                    
would be  supportive of pushing out  the implementation date                                                                    
to offer more time.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster discussed the agenda of future meetings.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 91 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the schedule for the following                                                                         
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB078 ver N Explaination of Changes.pdf HFIN 4/30/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 78
HB 91 DOR Response to HFIN Question 05.01.2025.pdf HFIN 4/30/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 91
HB 91 Public Testimony Rec'd by 05.08.25.pdf HFIN 4/30/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 91