Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

05/15/2025 10:00 AM House FINANCE

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+= HB 90 FINANCIAL LITERACY PROGRAM IN SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 156 AK COMMERCIAL FISHING & AG BANK; LOANS TELECONFERENCED
<Pending Referral>
Scheduled but Not Heard
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+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 28 TEACHER/STATE EMPLOYEE STUDENT LOAN PRGRM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 28(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 90                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing a financial literacy education                                                                        
     program for public schools; and providing for an                                                                           
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:16:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TED EISCHEID,  SPONSOR, thanked the committee                                                                    
for   hearing   the   bill   creating   financial   literacy                                                                    
requirements for  high school graduation. The  bill required                                                                    
school districts to create a  financial literacy program. He                                                                    
clarified that it was not necessarily a standalone course.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:17:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEREDITH  TRAINOR, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE TED  EISCHEID, did                                                                    
not have any remarks at the time.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  thought  back to  her  high  school                                                                    
days. She was  not necessarily opposed to the  idea, but she                                                                    
wondered why a new requirement  was needed. She did not want                                                                    
to  get into   piece meal-ing   100 different  programs that                                                                    
was part of general education for schools.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Eischeid  replied  that as  they  looked  at                                                                    
different education  priorities in  the state,  for example,                                                                    
the Alaska Reads  Act by the governor. He felt  that it came                                                                    
down  to   equity.  If  they   were  important   skills  for                                                                    
individuals, everyone should have it.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  stated it did  not get to  the point                                                                    
of why they should have a separate requirement.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:22:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Eischeid clarified  that  the  bill did  not                                                                    
require  a standalone  course; it  could be  integrated into                                                                    
another lesson.  There were many people  who could calculate                                                                    
but  they did  not necessarily  have financial  literacy. He                                                                    
knew many  people who  had math skills  but had  not managed                                                                    
their financial lives well.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked  about  the  reason  for  the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  answered that if a  person knew how                                                                    
to  manage their  money, they  might be  more successful  in                                                                    
society. He  remarked that the  average credit card  debt in                                                                    
Alaska was  over $8,000, so  with the education,  he thought                                                                    
people would take  action to avoid those  kinds of financial                                                                    
pitfalls. When  he had  been empowered  with the  skills and                                                                    
knowledge he usually took appropriate actions.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:26:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  liked the  bill. He  shared that                                                                    
he had  been required  to take an  economics course.  He did                                                                    
not want  to take  the class  when he had  been told  he was                                                                    
required to;  however, it  ended up  being his  favorite and                                                                    
memorable class.  He was happy  to have taken the  class and                                                                    
thought perhaps it was why  he had been self-employed in his                                                                    
career.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Eischeid replied  that the  Anchorage School                                                                    
District provided the program for  freshman and it was up to                                                                    
the school  district how to deliver  financial literacy. The                                                                    
equivalent of half a course over four years.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  did not  want  to  put so  much                                                                    
burden on school districts to have to do it annually.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:29:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  how many  districts in  Alaska                                                                    
already required a financial class for graduation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid replied that he did not know.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  clarified   she   thought  it   was                                                                    
overreach  to tell  a  district it  had  to teach  financial                                                                    
literacy.  Her concern  was having  it be  a requirement  to                                                                    
graduate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:31:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  clarified that he had  stated there                                                                    
were financial  literacy issues in Anchorage  and Fairbanks,                                                                    
and rural districts that may or  may not have the ability to                                                                    
implement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan stated  that  he kept  saying to  the                                                                    
amount practicable.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Eischeid   stated   that   kids   who   had                                                                    
transferred were not subject to the requirement.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan thought it  was an unfunded mandate on                                                                    
school districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:36:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster noted  he would  set an  amendment deadline                                                                    
for Friday at 5:00 p.m.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard thanked her  colleague from Juneau who                                                                    
was an expert as she had  been a teacher for many years. She                                                                    
had addressed her concerns.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Eischeid   answered   that  AML   was   not                                                                    
supportive  of the  bill, but  other entities  had supported                                                                    
it. He felt  that one would assume with  math education that                                                                    
people would  understand financial literacy, but  it was not                                                                    
the case.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Trainor spoke to the  fiscal note from the Department of                                                                    
Education  and  Early  Development  (DEED) with  a  cost  of                                                                    
$76,000.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:44:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard thought  everyone  should be  treated                                                                    
the same and standards should be the same across the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum asked  Co-Chair Foster  to repeat  the                                                                    
amendment deadline.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  replied that the  deadline was  Friday, May                                                                    
16 at 5:00 p.m.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum believed  the  topic was  particularly                                                                    
important and he  thought kids needed a better  idea on what                                                                    
it meant to balance a checkbook and other issues.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:48:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  clarified there was nothing  in the                                                                    
bill  that talked  about checkbooks.  He believed  financial                                                                    
literacy was a  priority and putting it in  a bill reflected                                                                    
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Trainor   added  that  the   office  took  a   look  at                                                                    
administrative code and the statute question.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:51:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  wanted more elaboration on  the issues                                                                    
brought  up by  Representative Hannan  about how  to make  a                                                                    
school district comply.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  stated he had been  an educator for                                                                    
25 years.  He stated that  change was  hard. In each  of the                                                                    
situations he  had become  a better  teacher because  it had                                                                    
forced  him   to  change.   He  believed   sometimes  school                                                                    
districts should be pushed if it was important.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:55:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum stated  his other  concern related  to                                                                    
chapter 30,  which gave direction to  school districts about                                                                    
how to apply the program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Eischeid   deferred  to   Legislative  Legal                                                                    
Services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  did  not  think  the  bill  went  far                                                                    
enough. He thought it should be a three credit requirement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:00:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Eischeid  appreciated   the  comments.   He                                                                    
respected  the sensitivity  from other  member comments  and                                                                    
his goal was to find a balance to get the bill forward.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  heard a  lot about  unfunded mandates,                                                                    
and he  thought it depended  on the topic how  people seemed                                                                    
to feel.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  stated that the  legislature funded                                                                    
schools  and the  bill  would be  a  mandate; therefore,  he                                                                    
viewed it to be a funded mandate.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:03:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie  was a little worried  about the idea.                                                                    
She stated  the idea  was relevant  and she  appreciated the                                                                    
bill because  she wanted children  to succeed. She  asked if                                                                    
there was  a way to make  the bill requirement not  impact a                                                                    
student's grades.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  stated that the bill  specified the                                                                    
topic should  be taught, but he  did not really know  how to                                                                    
answer the question pertaining to grades.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:06:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked if it  was possible to do the class                                                                    
requirement in a couple of weeks.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  replied that  he believed  that the                                                                    
requirement could be completed in an intensive.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson found the  number ludicrous, and stressed                                                                    
that  there  was some  frustration  about  the cost  of  the                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid felt  that there was no  way to make                                                                    
all parties happy.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  stressed  that  the  state  was                                                                    
supposed to  be teaching kids  to read. He outlined  all the                                                                    
aspects of  participating as an  adult in the  economy, such                                                                    
as opening  bank accounts,  holding an  identification card,                                                                    
and applying for loans.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:12:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum thought that  it would be an additional                                                                    
burden on  school districts  to implement  this requirement.                                                                    
He   asked  about   the  reasoning   for  the   department's                                                                    
involvement in the proposal.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Eischeid   thought    accountability   was                                                                    
essential to the success of the program.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  asked about  any other  items, besides                                                                    
the  Alaska   Reads  Act,  with   the  same   obligation  of                                                                    
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Eischeid  was  not  aware  of  anything.  He                                                                    
deferred to Ms. Trainor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Trainor asked for a repeat of the question.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  complied.  He asked  outside  of  the                                                                    
Reads Act whether there were  any other programs required to                                                                    
be overseen by DEED.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Trainor answered that what was  in the bill was a middle                                                                    
ground between including it in AAC and statute.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:18:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan addressed  comments by other committee                                                                    
members.  She was  consistent  on  education policies  where                                                                    
something   was  mandated   for   graduation.  Her   primary                                                                    
objection to  the bill was  not about the content  but about                                                                    
mandating a  specific requirement  to graduate. She  did not                                                                    
think it was the legislature's role.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:21:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  stated her  concerns were  about the                                                                    
specifics  of  what  would  be  taught  in  the  class.  She                                                                    
remarked  about the  possibility of  influencing a  mindset.                                                                    
She personally  felt that teaching about  managing debt took                                                                    
on a social position.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reiterated the amendment deadline.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eischeid  remarked on the  robust discussion.                                                                    
He  asked people  to look  at the  bill again  and explained                                                                    
that it was not a standalone  course. The bill was an effort                                                                    
to teach about living within a person's means.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  90  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:25:47 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:29:57 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 28 Amendments 1-7 051425.pdf HFIN 5/15/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 28
HB 28 Other_State_Loan_Repayment_Assistance_Programs051525.pdf HFIN 5/15/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 28