Legislature(2017 - 2018)BARNES 124
03/20/2017 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE
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| HJR14 | |
| HB157 | |
| HB119 | |
| HB79 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | HB 79 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HJR 14 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 157 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | HB 119 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED |
HB 79-OMNIBUS WORKERS' COMPENSATION
4:19:37 PM
CHAIR KITO announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 79, "An Act relating to workers' compensation;
repealing the second injury fund upon satisfaction of claims;
relating to service fees and civil penalties for the workers'
safety programs and the workers' compensation program; relating
to the liability of specified officers and members of specified
business entities for payment of workers' compensation benefits
and civil penalties; relating to civil penalties for
underinsuring or failing to insure or provide security for
workers' compensation liability; relating to preauthorization
and timely payment for medical treatment and services provided
to injured employees; relating to incorporation of reference
materials in workers' compensation regulations; relating to
proceedings before the Workers' Compensation Board; providing
for methods of payment for workers' compensation benefits;
relating to the workers' compensation benefits guaranty fund
authority to claim a lien; excluding independent contractors
from workers' compensation coverage; establishing the
circumstances under which certain nonemployee executive
corporate officers and members of limited liability companies
may obtain workers' compensation coverage; relating to the
duties of injured employees to report income or work; relating
to misclassification of employees and deceptive leasing;
defining 'employee'; relating to the Workers' Compensation
Board's approval of attorney fees in a settlement agreement; and
providing for an effective date."
4:20:00 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON moved to adopt CSHB 79, Version 30-
GH1789\O as the working document. There being no objection,
Version O was before the committee.
4:20:23 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH referred to the Alaska Truckers Association
(ATA) proposed amendments and asked whether they found their way
into Version O.
CHAIR KITO advised that the department will explain the changes
in Version O and will address Representative Birch's question.
4:20:54 PM
MARIE MARX, Director, Division of Workers' Compensation,
Department of Labor & Workforce Development (DLWD), explained
that the changes are from Version D to Version O, and most of it
is clean up. Ms. Marx paraphrased from a document entitled,
"Summary of Changes ver D to ver O 3.14.17," included in the
committee packet as follows:
Page 2 and 21-22, Secs. 2, 4, 40, 45, and 46: Deletes
sections 2, 4, 40, 45 and 46 relating to second injury
fund transition. This allows the legislature to amend
the statutes to repeal the second injury fund after it
has been notified that all second injury fund claims
have been satisfied, rather than having the repeal
occur automatically.
4:22:03 PM
The committee took a brief at ease.
4:22:30 PM
MS. MARX explained that beginning on CSHB 79, page 2, Version O,
sections are deleted relating to the second injury fund repeal:
Sections 2, 4, 40, 45 in the previous Version D are not in
Version O. She reiterated that these sections dealt with second
injury fund statutes that would have automatically been repealed
when the bill passed. She explained that the Alaska Legislative
Council indicated that it was in the best interests of the
legislature, to let the legislature decide to repeal once all
claims had been paid. She explained that Version O did not
changed that, and on July 1, 2018, acceptance of new claims for
the second injury fund would end. She further explained that
the existing liability would be paid off over time and the fund
balance would continue until those claims were paid off. Down
the road, after all claims had been paid, the balance would go
to the general fund. She noted that most of the claims are
permanent total disability and paid through the life of the
claimant. It is all tied to the "first amendment" allowing the
legislature to amend the statutes that repeal the second injury
fund, rather than the appeal occurring automatically.
4:24:22 PM
MS. MARX continued paraphrasing as follows:
Page 11, Line 4, Sec. 21: Technical correction
changing "payment or compensation" to "payment of
compensation."
Page 11, Lines 25-26, Sec. 22: Inserts "When the
employer files a notice of controversion" to the
sentence, "The Division shall notify the employee if
an employer controverts the employee's right to
compensation."
Page 12, Lines 13-14, Sec, 23: Deletes "to the person
owed or to be reimbursed." Lines 28-31 describe more
specifically to whom the additional amount should be
paid. Stating it twice in the same subsection may open
it to inconsistent interpretations.
4:25:41 PM
MS. MARX, in response to Representative Birch's question,
advised that one of the stakeholder groups raised the issue in
Version D, referring to business licenses, permits, and
certifications. She opined that after further discussion and
reflection, it was decided that the idea is better captured in
the current language, which is that an independent contractor is
a business that has all of the business, trade, or professional,
licenses required by law. She explained that change was made
after a discussion with the stakeholder groups.
MS. MARX, in response to Representative Birch, agreed that it
was the entire section.
MS. MARX continued paraphrasing as follows:
Page 14, Lines 17-18, Sec. 26: Technical correction
reorganizing sentence so "AS 23.30.082" appears after
"fund" instead of "guaranty."
Page 16, Lines 14-16, Sec. 28: Deletes "has a license,
permit, or certification" and inserts, "has all
business, trade, or professional licenses."
Page 19, Line 26, Sec. 33: Technical correction
deleting "the."
Page 20, Line 7, Sec. 34 and Page 20, Line 28, Sec.
35: Technical correction deleting "and" and inserting
a comma.
Page 21, Line 18, Sec. 39: Technical correction
changing AS 23.30.080(8) to AS 23.30.080(g).
Page 21, Line 19, Sec. 39: Technical correction
changing AS 23.30.080(n}-(k) to AS 23 .30.080(h}-(k).
Page 21, Line 26, Sec. 39: Inserts "AS 23.30.1 lO(d),
as repealed and reenacted by sec. 17 of this Act."
This clarifies the new provision relating to
representation applies to new claims filed on or after
the effective date of the bill.
4:27:26 PM
MS. MARX advised that stakeholder groups raised the issue about
the representation provision because the previous version of the
bill would not permit non-attorneys from representing parties
before the board because non-attorneys are not bound by ethical
and professional rules. The question was raised as to whether
that applies to current ongoing claims, and she clarified that
it would apply only to new claims filed after the effective date
of this Act. She continued paraphrasing from the above-
mentioned document as follows:
Pages 21, Line 31-Page 22, Line 5, Sec. 39: Inserts a
new subsection (c) providing the new executive officer
and business entity member provisions apply to an
insurance policy or contract entered into or renewed
on or after the effective date of sec. 29, which
August 1, 2018.
MS. MARX explained that another concern raised by stakeholder
groups was with regard to rules relating to executive officers
as employees. Currently, the insurance policies may, or may
not, cover the executive officers and the concern was raised
whether the executive officers would be employees under HB 79.
Stakeholder groups also expressed concern for how insurance
policies would be affected if executive officers suddenly became
employees when they were not, or became "not employees" when
they previously were. She expressed that in order to be certain
there was not a lot of litigation or ambiguity created over
"what insurance policy these new rules regarding employee status
apply to, we made it very clear that, and we checked with the
Division of Insurance to make sure there was no concerns there,
but to make sure that the rules regarding who was an employee
and therefore who needs to be covered under their insurance
policy applies at a delayed effective date." She noted that the
bill would only apply to new policies and renewals -- not
existing ones. The division will give insurance companies one
year to update their forms, make sure they get the word out to
their new policyholders that says "you may not have needed
coverage before, but you need it now. Or, they may tell these
executive officers, you had to have coverage before, you do not
need it now. And, let them opt in if they want to opt in."
MS. MARX continued paraphrasing as follows:
Page 22, Lines 8-11, Sec. 40: Deletes "The balance of
the second injury fund created by former AS 23.30.040
shall be transferred to the general fund on the
effective date of this section" and inserts, "Subject
to appropriation, the balance of the second injury
fund created under AS 23.30.040 lapses into the
general fund when all liability for accepted claims
under AS 23.30.205 to the second injury fund and
claims ordered to be paid from that fund have been
satisfied."
Page 22, Line 18, Sec. 43: Provides Sec. 30 takes
effect July 1, 2018.
4:30:57 PM
MS. MARX referred to page 22, line [19], and said the effective
date of July 1, 2018 is for second injury fund questionnaires.
She explained that the rest of the statutes were repealed.
Except, the only statute tied to this Act that will continue to
have an effective date and go into effect at the same time, is
the second injury questionnaire an employer gives to an employee
for second injury fund claim purposes. She reiterated that on
July 1, 2018, no new claims will be accepted.
MS. MARX continued paraphrasing as follows:
Page 22, Line 20, Sec. 44: Provides Sec. 29 takes
effect August 1, 2018.
4:32:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON surmised that an element of the second
injury fund was designed to incentivize employment of people who
were previously injured. He asked why it is acceptable to end
the second injury fund.
MS. MARX responded that when second injury funds were created,
that prior to offering an individual a job, it was permissible
to ask whether the individual had a disability. Subsequent to
the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), that
question became unlawful. Therefore, she said, the incentive to
hire people with pre-existing disabilities no longer exists,
although they can be asked whether they have any limitations
that would keep them from performing the essential functions of
the job without accommodations. The purpose of the fund is
served by the ADA, and the second injury fund does not now have
an ongoing purpose, she explained.
4:34:39 PM
CHAIR KITO opened public testimony on HB 79.
4:35:04 PM
CHARLIE YOUNG advised that he is a member of the International
Union of Painters and Allied Trades, a 28-year painter and
drywall finisher, and a life-long Alaskan. He said he supports
CSHB 79, and specifically the section pertaining to
misclassified workers and employees who call themselves
independent contractors. He said he has never seen the abuse of
misclassification so high as currently, and has always worked
for painting contractors who played by the rules, paid wages,
taxes, and the insurance an employee deserves. When a
contractor hires individuals as independent contractors, the
contractor is able to avoid paying payroll taxes, workers'
compensation insurance, and unemployment insurance on each
worker; therefore, the contractor can complete the job for much
less money. When projects are bid with this type of practice
used, the cheating contractors have the distinct advantage over
contractors who follow all of the rules. More often these
cheating contractors are winning the bids on projects as he
watches the amount of work for himself become less and less
every year. He asked the committee to please support CSHB 70
for the honest contractors and employees working in the building
trades across this great state.
4:37:01 PM
WALTER ROBINSON advised that he is with the International
Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 1547, and supports CSHB
79 because this bill addresses several problems, and helps
streamline the process for the timelines in which an employee
receives wage replacement and treatment for an injury. He said
he has personally witnessed the stress and hardship workplace
injuries put on the family dealing with the current lengthy
process, and this bill creates a more efficient process for both
the employer and employee. This legislation also addresses the
large problem of the misclassification of an employee as an
independent contractor and closes the loophole for unethical
employers.
4:38:54 PM
DOUG TANSY, President, Fairbanks Central Labor Council, advised
he is testifying in support of CSHB 79 because it protects
workers and employers who comply with the workers compensation
laws by clearly defining which workers are legally independent
contractors. He commented that employers misclassify workers as
independent contractors for financial reasons, while workers are
denied their rights under minimum wage, overtime, and other
workplace protection such as, increased tax burdens, no overtime
pay, and the workers are often ineligible for unemployment
insurance and disability compensation. Misclassification also
causes federal, state, and local government to suffer revenue
losses as employers circumvent their tax obligations.
Generally, he said, the workers must "pick up the tab for that"
so the cost is shifted from unscrupulous employers to the
worker. He asked that the committee pass this legislation.
4:40:35 PM
ERNIE EADS advised that he owns a small sawmill and is
testifying as to the misclassification of independent
contractors. He said he is the product of laws not being
enforced or being unenforceable, including workers' compensation
"in a big way," and he has a 35-year history of owning above-
board businesses, including sawmills. Due to the failed logging
and lumber business in the late 1980s in Oregon, he clearly
understands the wrath of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS),
Oregon Department of Revenue, and workers' compensation. He
then discussed the timber industry in the State of Alaska and
the effects of unethical employers. In approximately 2000-2001,
he said he began asking the Division of Workers' Compensation to
come to Prince of Wales Island and assist those who were trying
to legally operate a business in Alaska. He was advised that
the Division of Workers' Compensation had not been allotted
travel dollars and was shorthanded, yet the employees were
suffering. He said he was responsible in providing a decent
living and protection for his employees and their families for a
long time.
4:49:49 PM
AVES THOMPSON, Executive Director, Alaska Trucking Association
(ATA), said that during his testimony before this committee on
February 20, 2017, the Alaska Trucking Association (ATA) was
generally in support of the legislation. However, there were
concerns about specific provisions dealing with the definition
of independent contractors, or "owner/operators." The Alaska
Trucking Association (ATA) has been working with the Department
of Labor & Workforce Development (DLWD) to resolve these issues,
and he apologized to many individuals for the miscommunication
of ATA which had occurred.
MR. THOMPSON advised that ATA maintains its objections to the
following: page 16, lines 1-6, concerning direction and control,
and he noted that ATA has proposed language to clarify what
constitutes control; page 16, lines 7-9, responsibility for
expenses, and ATA has proposed language to clarify that
responsibility; page 16, lines 17-27, tax payments
responsibility, and ATA has proposed language clarifying that
the independent contractor is responsible pursuant to the
contract; page 17, lines 1-3, business location, and ATA has
proposed language clarifying the definition of a business
location; and page 17, lines 4-6, advertising (coughing), and
ATA has proposed language clarifying this responsibility. He
advised that more detail can be found within the package he
forwarded to the committee earlier last week. The proposed
amendments are not set in stone, he described, and ATA is
willing and able to continue discussions on compromise
positions. He said that while ATA is supportive of the bill, it
maintains its objections and hopes to find a workable solution.
The ATA has received assurances from the DLWD that it is willing
to work with ATA in the next committee of referral to resolve
its concerns. It is ATA's intent is to help develop definitions
that can be used within the Divisions of Workers' Compensation,
Wage and Hour, and Unemployment Insurance.
4:52:44 PM
CHAIR KITO commented that the committee is trying to figure out
how to move the bills in the House Labor and Commerce Standing
Committee from committee and make their way to the Senate. The
intent, he said, is to keep this bill moving and not hold it
over the summer.
4:53:35 PM
MR. THOMPSON stressed that ATA does not intend to slow down the
bill because DLWD agreed to work with ATA in the next committee
of referral. He said, ATA has no objection to moving the bill
out of the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.
4:54:15 PM
CHRIS NETTELS, President, Geotech Alaska, advised that he is
testifying on behalf of his company and the National Federation
of Independent Businesses (NFIB). Currently, NFIB cannot
support this legislation, specifically the definition of
contract worker and employee. He opined that as an employer it
is too detailed for the purposes of geophysical and geological
consulting, and he is afraid some these requirements could
negatively impact the ability to hire consultants and/or
professional contractors. In particular, he said that he
reviewed the Alaska Trucking Association (ATA) proposed changes
and language, and said there is the danger of unintended
consequences in the language. He referred to the testimonies
which said, "these criminals and these crooks are doing this and
that, and hiring people and calling them contractors," and he
asked what rules these people are breaking. He said they are
breaking federal IRS rules, and those federal IRS rules have
"common law rules" based on three parts: behavioral, financial,
and type of relationship. Currently, the way the language is
written in this legislation, the regulations are all over the
place. He asked to put the regulations in the same sort of
categories as the IRS regulations.
MR. NETTELS referenced the IRS' policy as to how to decide
whether someone is a contractor or employee, and he explained as
follows:
Behavioral. Does the company control or have the
right to control what the worker does and how the
worker does his or her job? I believe there is
language like that in this house bill right now.
Financial. Are the business aspects of the worker's
job controlled by the payer? These include things
like how the worker is paid, whether expenses are
reimbursed, who provides tools, supplies, et cetra.
Again, I believe that language is in this bill.
Type of relationship. Are there written contracts or
employee type benefits, i.e., pension plan, insurance,
vacation pay, et cetra? Will the relationship
continue? And, is the work performed the key aspect
of the business? Again, I think there is similar
language in this bill. They at least ... be organized
the same categories for people that are trying to make
this decision for not only the purposes of the IRS,
but now, if we are going to have this bill for the
purpose of this bill.
4:57:18 PM
MR. NETTELS expressed irritation and asked why there is an
exclusion for the real estate folks if the real estate folks can
meet these requirements. There are some problems about this
bill he said he just does not understand, and thinks that "we're
trying to make a lot more specific with the high danger of
creating problems for the sorts of folks in his same business.
4:57:56 PM
MIKE McGUIRE said he has been in the trades since the late
1970s, and his father was a sub-contractor/independent
contractor who paid taxes, hired employees, and paid benefits.
He advised that the legislature is allowing the impossibility
for honest contractors to compete with "these people." He
stated that in the construction trade misclassification has been
bad. He referenced a press release from DLWD which disclosed
details of the death of a worker who did not have the required
protections of a normal job. He remarked, "You people are not
protecting the worker, and the other businessmen and ultimately
this will lead to the loss of protection of the property owner."
He referred to the construction trade and the mess with the
independent contractor owner/operator and said, "I don't see why
they don't have to pay the taxes like everybody else."
4:59:53 PM
BRONSON FRYE advised that he is with the Painters Union Local
1959, and noted that, unfortunately, a business model had taken
root in this state in the construction industry whereby certain
employers are requiring, as a condition of employment, that
their workers get business licenses and self-perform as "so-
called owner/operators or independent sub-contractors." In
doing so, it creates an unfair playing field in the bidding
process due to the cost factor. Essentially, he explained, all
of the factors are approximately the same for everyone with the
only exception being the cost of labor, and the person who can
cut their labor costs down the most, will typically be the low
bidder and will ultimately be awarded the contract for the work.
When a company misclassifies its employees as independent sub-
contractors rather than employees, it avoids paying workers'
compensation premiums, payroll taxes, unemployment, social
security, and so forth. Thereby, he pointed out, cutting up to
30 percent of their labor costs off of the top with a tremendous
and thoroughly unfair advantage over honest, law abiding
employers whose workforce is made up of properly classified and
insured employees. This legislation creates a clear definition
of an independent contractor and misclassification with no
ambiguity, allowing everyone bidding the project through a fair
and equitable system. He referred to previous testimony
regarding the IRS and said if the IRS rules were sufficient,
then "we wouldn't have a problem." He remarked that any rule or
law is only as good as the ability of the governing body to
enforce it, so obviously the IRS rules are not sufficient, which
is why it is important to pass CSHB 79.
5:03:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH noted that he does not perform mechanic
work on his own vehicle, and a mechanic shop advises as to the
amount of time the work would take, and he pays that amount.
Except, what if the person performing the work finishes it in
two hours, he asked whether there is an opportunity to reward
the person who completes a job more expeditiously. He said he
understands there is a "per hour rate," but does that stymie
competition by limiting the hourly rate, and if an independent
contractor can do it twice as fast, maybe they actually end up
getting paid more.
MR. FRYE responded that the reward comes in securing the
contract for the work, and if a construction company has a crew
of employees that works more efficiently and bids the project
fairly, it is rewarded by securing the contract. He reminded
the committee that currently there is a system where people
employing an unscrupulous business model are rewarded by cutting
their labor costs and misclassifying all of their workers. He
stressed that everyone can remain competitive in an industry and
still have that industry operate in a fair manner.
5:06:24 PM
BRANDON McGUIRE, Representative, UA Local 367 Plumbers &
Steamfitters, said he is speaking on behalf of the membership of
the UA Local 367 Plumbers & Steamfitters. It supports CSHB 79
because it impacts contractors looking to skirt the edges of
ethics by calling a clear employee an independent contractor.
Across the country this has been a way for contractors to take
advantage of workers and this bill lessens the current penalty
burden on the contractor. He said that dropping the penalty
amount has a great impact when considering (coughing) current
penalties can be an astronomical amount, and when contested, the
penalties do not withstand review on appeal. This bill sets
three times what workers' compensation insurance would have
cost, and this amount would not just be determined by the amount
of money, but also by considering the employer's size, nature of
the employer's business, and financial gain the employer
realized by failing to make the proper payments. He said this
directly impacts the membership of the UA because its
contractors are bound by the bidding process that is supposed to
be fair. He advised that when it comes to bidding, the real
difference in bids is almost always the manpower, which
typically accounts for 40 percent or more of the costs on a job,
and cutting labor costs makes the bidding process completely
unfair. Often, that cost difference means the difference
between being awarded the contract, and not being awarded the
contract. In the end, he said it is the worker who suffers
because most of these young kids do not have a clue about
workers' compensation, "they just want to show up and do a good
day's work and get paid for it." Overall, he remarked that CSHB
79 is fairer to all parties involved because it lessens the
penalty on constructors while at the time strengthening the
enforcement of the penalty to a degree in which it can actually
be assessed as a damage to a contractor who is gambling on
workers not being injured.
5:09:17 PM
PAT FALON said he represents himself, and described that CSHB 79
is pro-business, and it updates workers' compensation laws.
Many Alaskans are true independent contractors, except more
outside businesses are coming to Alaska and breaking the laws
and misclassifying workers. Defining independent contractor is
a common-sense reform that will reduce the influence of
misclassification, and this legislation contains other
provisions modernizing workers' compensation as well. He said
that he appreciates Governor Bill Walker for introducing this
legislation thereby supporting Alaskan businesses and Alaskan
workers, and asked that the committee pass the legislation out
of committee.
5:10:51 PM
RODNEY HESSON, President, Juneau Building Trades, offered
support for CSHB 79, and in particular for the section defining
the terms independent contractor and misclassification. He
noted the committee understands previous testimonies as to the
unfair bidding process by misclassification. Basically, he
noted, the bill clearly defines independent contractor and
misclassification which will help put an end to the unsafe
practice of workers not being covered, and makes the employer
vulnerable to lawsuits for a possible catastrophic injury.
Overall, he noted, the bill is good and will protect and provide
coverage for more Alaskan workers in the coming years.
5:12:37 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH said he met with folks from the Alaska
Surgery Center with concerns regarding Sec. 17, and asked how
Sec. 17 was addressed in Version O.
5:13:34 PM
MS. MARX referred to Version O, Sec. 15, page 8, beginning line
10, and advised it discusses the question at issue. The concern
raised by stakeholder groups was actually on page 9, lines 15-
16, where the section references an Ambulatory Surgical Center
Payment System produced by federal Centers for Medicare and
Medicaid Services. The amendments, she explained, are adding
onto the list of reference material that arose from HB 316
[passed in the Twenty-Eighth Alaska State Legislature], which
changed the methodology, the way in which Alaska's medical fee
schedule is calculated. House Bill 316 used reference material
already out there from the American Medical Association as a
base. For example, page 8, line 14, references the Current
Procedural Terminology Codes produced by the American Medical
Association and relative values set by the Centers for Medicaid
and Medicare Services of which there are many. That legislation
re-established the Medical Services Review Committee (MSRC) and
told it to look at the fee schedule every year and update it.
The American Medical Association updates the list of materials
every year, the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services come
up with its values every year and usually January 1 is the
effective date.
MS. MARX advised that the division preferred automatically
incorporating them as each amended version came up, "just to
say, okay we're using the new version January 1, 2018, the new
version January 2019." The division was told it had to have
legislative permission to incorporate future amended versions
through that process, so the legislature granted permission for
the numbers in the section (1) through (9), and after using the
fee schedule for one year realized some were left off the list.
She explained that the decision as to whether to use these
materials or how they are used has been set by the legislature,
and that is how the MSRC makes the recommendations. It then
takes the recommendation to the Workers' Compensation Board and
if the board and the MSRC are in agreement, they go through the
regulatory process and are adopted. Again, she said, every year
there will be a January 1 fee schedule in effect every year. In
response to the stakeholder's concerns, she advised that this is
just a list of reference material the MSRC and board may
incorporate by reference for future amended versions as they
become available from "these entities."
5:17:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH surmised that this is not necessarily a
prescription of what has to be used, it is basically only a
reference.
MS. MARX responded, "Absolutely," and affirmed that that is
stated on page 8, lines 10-11, "the department may incorporate
future amended versions of a document or reference material
incorporated by reference."
5:17:35 PM
CHAIR KITO, in response to Representative Knopp, advised that
when the bill is next before the committee there will
opportunities for discussion and having the department
available.
REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP requested that someone from the Division of
Wage & Hour attend the next meeting.
MS. MARX asked for a little more information so the folks could
be prepared to answer questions.
REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP said he would have his office call Ms. Marx
regarding the information he is requesting. Representative
Knopp then referred to Chair Kato's desire to move the bill out
of committee for the sake of getting it moving, and said that
this is the committee to fix these bills, it still warrants a
lot of discussion, and he is not eager to move the bill until
the discussions are finalized. He said, for the record, this is
the place to fix the bill, and to not pass it on to the next
committee to fix the bill.
[HB 79 was held over.]
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HJR014 Supporting Documents Index 3.17.17.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2017 3:15:00 PM |
HJR 14 |
| HJR014 Supporting Documents-Support Letters 3.17.17.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2017 3:15:00 PM |
HJR 14 |
| HJR014 Supporting Documents-Universal Service Disbursements 2015 3.20.17.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2017 3:15:00 PM |
HJR 14 |
| HJR014 Supporting Documents-Universal Services Fact Sheet 3.17.17.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2017 3:15:00 PM |
HJR 14 |