Legislature(2025 - 2026)DAVIS 106

03/13/2025 03:15 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 27 MEDICAL MAJOR EMERGENCIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 27(HSS) Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 70 EMERGENCY MED SVCS; OPERATIONAL CANINES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 64 SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         HB  70-EMERGENCY MED SVCS; OPERATIONAL CANINES                                                                     
HB 70-EMERGENCY MED SVCS; OPERATIONAL CANINES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:39:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 70 "An  Act relating to emergency medical services                                                               
for  operational canines;  relating  to the  powers, duties,  and                                                               
liability of  emergency medical technicians and  mobile intensive                                                               
care  paramedics;   relating  to   the  practice   of  veterinary                                                               
medicine; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CALVIN  SCHRAGE,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime sponsor, provided a brief recap of HB 70.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:42:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA announced invited testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:42:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN WEBB, Paramedic  and EMS Educator, testified  in support of                                                               
HB 70.   He described  his medical experience and  his experience                                                               
with canine care.  He shared  the story of a state trooper canine                                                               
who was fatally shot in  2017, explaining that although emergency                                                               
medical  service  (EMS) personnel  were  available,  they had  no                                                               
authority  to  assist.    He  emphasized  the  scarce  veterinary                                                               
resources available  in Alaska.   He also  said that HB  70 would                                                               
allow  for training  that would  fit within  continuing education                                                               
requirements  for EMS.   He  compared  emergency medications  for                                                               
canines to pediatric patients.  He  said that HB 70 would address                                                               
low frequency, high acuity canine trauma events.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:46:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  asked if canine services  that would be                                                               
provided by  EMS would  need to  be approved  by the  EMS medical                                                               
director.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. WEBB  confirmed that the  EMS medical director would  need to                                                               
designate authority to provide canine services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE asked  if approval  by the  EMS medical                                                               
director to provide services is implied as an EMT.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WEBB  responded that  standing orders  and protocol  give EMS                                                               
providers their authority  to practice, which is  mentioned in HB
70.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked about  the need for a veterinarian                                                               
to approve EMS canine services under HB 70.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WEBB  responded  that  the  EMS  medical  director  approves                                                               
standing orders and protocols.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  asked if  it is  true that  the "dosing                                                               
and  care  for  operational  canines is  virtually  identical  to                                                               
pediatric  patients."   He  said he  believes  that statement  is                                                               
mostly untrue.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WEBB  responded with  an example  of medication  whose dosage                                                               
and concentration is  the same for pediatric  and canine patients                                                               
as an emergency medication.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE asked  about the  training required  to                                                               
provide  emergency medical  services to  operational canines  and                                                               
what that training cost would be.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WEBB responded  that training  is  all based  on the  Canine                                                               
Tactical  Emergency Care  Course, developed  by the  US Military.                                                               
He described the  program and said that the cost  would depend on                                                               
the  scope of  practice of  the services  being provided  in that                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:55:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS asked  if there  is a  continuing education                                                               
requirement  for EMS  providers  and if  this  course would  help                                                               
fulfill those requirements.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WEBB responded  that this  course  would be  rolled into  an                                                               
annual  training cycle  within  the services  that  opted in  for                                                               
canine  services.    He  said  there  is  not  a  recertification                                                               
standard nationally.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:56:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked how  many service canines have been                                                               
injured in recent years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WEBB  responded  that  two  operational  canines  have  been                                                               
injured in recent years in Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SCHWANKE   asked   about  what   the   reporting                                                               
requirements for  administering Schedule II drugs  would be under                                                               
HB 70.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WEBB responded  that he  reached  out to  the regional  Drug                                                               
Enforcement  Administration  (DEA)  of  Seattle  to  ask  them  a                                                               
similar question  regarding controlled substances.   He said that                                                               
the DEA  responded that  there would be  no changes  necessary to                                                               
the existing processes for reporting controlled substances.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:00:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA opened public testimony on HB 70.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RACHEL BERNGARTT,  DVM, JD, Board  of Veterinary  Examiners, said                                                               
the board does not have an  official position statement on HB 70.                                                               
She offered clarification  on parts of Mr.  Webb's testimony that                                                               
she  believed  were misleading.    She  said that  the  committee                                                               
should  consider   the  potential  liability   for  veterinarians                                                               
regarding  HB 70.   She  emphasized several  issues she  believes                                                               
must be addressed regarding HB 70.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MCKAYLA  DICK, DVM,  Member at  Large, Alaska  Veterinary Medical                                                               
Association, testified in  opposition to HB 70.   She recommended                                                               
the formation of an emergency  veterinary advisory committee or a                                                               
task  force where  veterinarians,  emergency medical  technicians                                                               
(EMTs),  and  paramedics  can  collaborate  on  emergency  canine                                                               
protocol.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:08:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATRINA  BACKUS, DVM,  Medical  Director,  North Pole  Veterinary                                                               
Hospital, testified  in opposition to HB  70.  She said  that she                                                               
is  concerned that  HB 70  would allow  untrained individuals  to                                                               
perform  medical   interventions  without  proper   education  or                                                               
oversight.   She emphasized the need  to strengthen collaboration                                                               
between veterinarians and first responders.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:11:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA announced invited testimony again.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:11:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SEAN  MCPECK,  DVM,  CEO,  Tier   1  Veterinary  Medical  Center,                                                               
testified in support  of HB 70.  He emphasized  the low frequency                                                               
of situations  that HB  70 would apply  to.  He  said that  HB 70                                                               
would allow paramedics to try to  save the life of an operational                                                               
canine  if it  is  injured  in a  very  remote  environment.   He                                                               
emphasized  that the  care  provided by  paramedics  would be  en                                                               
route to  a veterinarian, not  in place  of veterinary care.   He                                                               
also emphasized how few veterinarians practice in Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:15:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA continued with public testimony on HB 70.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:16:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY ANN HOLLICK, DVM, said  the idea that a non-veterinarian can                                                               
be  trained in  a short  term to  perform advanced  procedures is                                                               
crazy.  She said that any  care beyond basic first aid must occur                                                               
under the direct instructions of a  veterinarian.  She said HB 70                                                               
would  need to  include a  waiver of  liability for  the licensed                                                               
veterinarian  taking  over  the  referred  cases  of  operational                                                               
canines.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:18:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK  STIGAR,   Former  President,   Alaska  Search   and  Rescue                                                               
Association, said  there are between  20 and 25 canines  with the                                                               
Alaska  Search  and  Rescue Association.    He  offered  personal                                                               
anecdotes of the  help he would seek out from  a paramedic if his                                                               
dog were injured and there were no veterinarians nearby.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:21:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  LEVY, MD,  Medical Director,  State of  Alaska Emergency                                                               
Medical Services, said he believes  giving his EMS clinicians the                                                               
ability  to transport  injured operational  canines  to a  higher                                                               
level of care is important.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:23:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE asked  Dr.  Levy to  describe what  the                                                               
process for  a medical director  approving canine  training under                                                               
HB 70 would look like.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEVY  responded that  under HB 70,  a medical  director would                                                               
need to establish  when particular services would  be provided to                                                               
canines and what resources would  be available to ensure adequate                                                               
training for those services.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:26:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRITTANY TURNER, noting that she  is a veterinarian assistant and                                                               
member of  the US Air  Force, testified  in opposition to  HB 70.                                                               
She said  that HB 70 needs  to define roles, regarding  first aid                                                               
and transportation, more clearly.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:26:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT  LUNA, Paramedic  Firefighter, testified  in support  of HB
70.   He said that operational  canines are often the  first line                                                               
of defense  in high-risk  situations.  He  said that  with proper                                                               
training,  EMS   providers  would   have  the  ability   to  make                                                               
significant impacts on these dogs  and provide the opportunity to                                                               
deliver a salvageable dog to the veterinarian clinic.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:29:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA SAMASH, representing self, testified  in support of HB 70.                                                               
She  said  that  she lives  in  a  rural  area  70 miles  from  a                                                               
veterinarian.  She explained that  a veterinarian trained members                                                               
of her community  in emergency care for their  pets because there                                                               
are no  veterinarians in  town.  She  emphasized that  many rural                                                               
areas do not have access to veterinary care.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:31:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 70.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 27 A.2.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 27
HB 27 Letters of Support 02.17.25.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 27
HB 27 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 27
HB 27 Sponsor Statement Verson A.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 27
HB 27 Version A Fiscal Note DOH Public Health.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 27
HB0027A.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 27
HB 64 Combined Bill Packet 03.12.25.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 - DFCS - Voluntary Background Information form surrendered infant.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 - DFCS - How Safe Surrender Infants Act Affects you.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Letter of Support Anchorage Fire Department.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Letter of Support SB9 HB64 Anchorage Dispature.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
SB 9
HB 64 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Support Doc - News - Anchorage police are still searching for the mother of an infant found dead last week 11.6.2024.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Support Doc - Table comparision of Infant Safety Devices Requirements.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Zero Fiscal Note DFCS Childrens Services.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Zero Fiscal Note DOH Health Care Services.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 64 Zero Fiscal Note DPS AST.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB0064A.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 64
HB 70 - Support Testimony Recieved as of 2.13 (redacted).pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 - Support Testimony Recieved as of 3.12 (redacted).pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Version A - Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Version A - Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Version A - Presentation.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Version A Fiscal Note DOH Public Health.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Bill Packet 02.17.25.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Version A - Bill Text.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Research Retrospective Gunshot Wound Study 1.1.2013.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/31/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Research Causes of Mortality in MWDs from Traumatic Injuries 8.7.2024.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/31/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 Research Recommendations for Prehospital Veterinary Care 1.3.2016.pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HL&C 3/31/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70
HB 70 - Opposition Testimony Recieved as of 3.12 (Redacted).pdf HHSS 3/13/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 70