Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

03/15/2023 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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01:01:02 PM Start
01:01:37 PM Presentation(s): Priceless Alaska
01:57:50 PM Presentation(s): My House
02:56:17 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Alaska's Human & Sex Trafficking TELECONFERENCED
Advocacy & Awareness Organizations by Priceless
Alaska and MyHouse Alaska
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
[Includes discussion of HB 68.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:01:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
a presentation by Priceless Alaska on human sex trafficking.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:02:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GWEN  ADAMS,   Executive  Director,  Priceless  Alaska,   gave  a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation on human  sex trafficking.  She explained                                                               
that   Priceless  Alaska   began  in   2012,  working   with  law                                                               
enforcement  connections  to  provide clothing  and  supplies  to                                                               
those  brought in  on arrest  for prostitution.   From  this, she                                                               
said that  Priceless began working  with victims  of trafficking,                                                               
and  it  has  witnessed  235  survivors since  the  onset.    She                                                               
described the  work as "dark,  hard, and relentless."   She posed                                                               
the  question, as  seen  on  slide 1,  "Why  would anyone  oppose                                                               
efforts to  end human  trafficking?"   She moved  to slide  2 and                                                               
pointed out that some think  prostitution is another form of work                                                               
and should  be legalized.  Moving  to slide 3, she  put forth the                                                               
arguments  of why  prostitution  is unsafe,  as  many are  raped,                                                               
abused,  and exposed  to  diseases such  as HIV  and  AIDS.   She                                                               
argued that it  is impossible to alleviate  harms in prostitution                                                               
by simply putting safety measures in place.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS moved  to  slide  5 and  slide  6,  pointing out  that                                                               
prostitution  is the  gateway to  trafficking.   She argued  that                                                               
prostitution  is a  form of  modern-day slavery.   She  indicated                                                               
that  where   prostitution  is  legalized   in  the   world,  the                                                               
exploitation of children  has grown there.  She moved  to slide 7                                                               
and slide  8 and  argued that prostitution  is not  about women's                                                               
empowerment and free choice, and  she expressed the understanding                                                               
that the vast majority of  people involved in prostitution wished                                                               
"they could get out."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:08:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS  moved to  slide 9  and slide  10, which  addressed the                                                               
argument  that  people should  be  free  to  purchase sex.    She                                                               
expressed the  understanding that buyers  do not know if  the sex                                                               
worker is underage or coerced into  the work, as victims would be                                                               
purchased the  same way as  a free-lance prostitute.   She argued                                                               
that buyers are fueling this  modern-day slavery; therefore, they                                                               
must be punished as well.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS  moved to  slide  10  and  stated  that the  crime  of                                                               
trafficking  never goes  away  if safety  for  victims cannot  be                                                               
provided.   She stated that  safety means that victims  would not                                                               
face repercussions  from traffickers for providing  testimony and                                                               
that  they  are  free  from  going back  into  the  trade.    She                                                               
described  this  as an  "endless  game,"  as traffickers  are  in                                                               
endless  pursuit to  bring "merchandise"  back.   She stated  the                                                               
providing safety would  be the way to help  these individuals not                                                               
return to the trade.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS  moved  to  slide  11 and  stated  that  if  financial                                                               
benefits to  trafficking are not  ended, the crime  will persist.                                                               
She reiterated that  if buyers are not  stopped, trafficking will                                                               
continue.    She  suggested that  the  average  trafficker  earns                                                               
$200,000 per year, per victim.   She stressed that this amount of                                                               
money  puts her  own life  into danger  as she  attempts to  help                                                               
victims.  She stated that trafficking  is second only to drugs as                                                               
the most lucrative  form of income for cartels.   She pointed out                                                               
that  drugs and  guns  can be  sold once,  while  victims of  sex                                                               
trafficking can be sold multiple times a day.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:14:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS moved to slide 12  and stated that Alaska is considered                                                               
to be a  trafficking origination point.  She  explained that this                                                               
means this  is a state where  traffickers come from out  of state                                                               
because Alaska's population  is vulnerable.  She  stated that the                                                               
U.S. and Mexico are considered to  be number one in the world for                                                               
trafficking.   She pointed  out that  a vulnerable  population is                                                               
created  in the  state  by  the high  rates  of childhood  sexual                                                               
abuse, neglect, domestic violence, and  more.  She indicated that                                                               
those who  have spent  time in  the foster  care system  are also                                                               
vulnerable.   She discussed the vulnerability  linked with people                                                               
not  living on  the  road  system, suggesting  that  Alaska is  a                                                               
"hotbed" for  pre-groomed victims.   She stated  that individuals                                                               
who have  already experienced some  sort of abuse  are considered                                                               
to be pre-groomed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS  moved to slide 12  and reiterated the importance  of a                                                               
close  partnership between  organizations  like Priceless  Alaska                                                               
and law  enforcement.   She stressed  that law  enforcement needs                                                               
the  tools to  fight this,  along with  plans that  are built  on                                                               
trust and  hope with victims.   She stated that  traffickers will                                                               
not be caught unless victims are willing to testify.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS  moved to slide  13 and discussed how  Priceless Alaska                                                               
helps.  She  expressed the opinion that Alaska  has the resources                                                               
to help  victims, but it  is "terrible at  networking resources."                                                               
She stated  that Priceless is  a networking agency, and  this was                                                               
the reason for creating the agency.   She stated that through the                                                               
agency  individuals   are  able  to   "walk  with  a   victim  of                                                               
trafficking."  The agency provides  each person two mentors and a                                                               
case  manager.   She stated  that often  this team  is the  first                                                               
healthy support network  that victims have ever had.   She stated                                                               
that recidivism rates  plummeted when this practice  was put into                                                               
place.  She further explained how this model works.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS  moved  to  slide  15 through  slide  17,  giving  the                                                               
examples of  three women's stories.   She stated that  each woman                                                               
was asked to describe "hope."   She read the quoted statements on                                                               
each  slide.    She  stated that  Priceless  Alaska's  effort  is                                                               
centered around  what the  victims have  expressed as  their hope                                                               
and dreams, not what the organization thinks the victim needs.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:23:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS concluded  the presentation.  She pointed  out that the                                                               
proposed legislation  [HB 68] is  coming before  the legislature,                                                               
and it is  addressing some "big" needs.  She  stated that she has                                                               
been involved with  the creation of the  proposed legislation and                                                               
recommended that  it would help  address expunging the  record of                                                               
prostitution for  victims of trafficking,  as this is  a lifetime                                                               
record.  She  noted that patrons are only getting  "a slap on the                                                               
back of  the wrist," with no  record.  She stated  that currently                                                               
there  is  only  a  24-hour   notice  before  the  release  of  a                                                               
trafficker, and  the legislation  is requesting  that there  be a                                                               
72-hour notice  to victims.   She argued  that the buyers  of sex                                                               
also  need   to  be  held   responsible  if  they   are  "feeding                                                               
trafficking," for example by purchasing  a child.  She noted that                                                               
her name and Priceless Alaska  has been dragged through the "mud"                                                               
for  various  reasons   by  those  lobbying  against   it.    She                                                               
reiterated  that  there  are  people who  opposed  to  the  fight                                                               
against trafficking.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:26:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:26:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY   acknowledged  that  the   legalization  of                                                               
prostitution in a society would cause more sex trafficking.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER expressed  the  understanding that  not                                                               
all the  events in  the state  get reported.   He  questioned the                                                               
scale of sex trafficking in Alaska.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS responded that from the  data she has seen, only a very                                                               
small  percentage of  victims go  and seek  justice, and  this is                                                               
because of  fear.  She  stated that  across the country  the vast                                                               
majority of  sex trafficking  cases end  up as  domestic violence                                                               
cases.    She  suggested  that  law  enforcement  and  first-line                                                               
responders be trained to ask  better questions and learn bruising                                                               
patterns to  understand if  a person is  being trafficked.   From                                                               
this, she  said that individuals  could be referred  to Priceless                                                               
Alaska.   She  stated that  the Federal  Bureau of  Investigation                                                               
(FBI) has reported  that in six high schools in  Alaska there has                                                               
been incidents  of minors  trafficking minors.   She  stated that                                                               
from townhall meetings held in  villages, most people do not know                                                               
what a trafficking  victim is.  She expressed the  opinion that a                                                               
majority of runaway  cases are trafficking cases,  as the runaway                                                               
left with  a person  who they  think they  are in  a relationship                                                               
with.   In  response to  a  follow-up question,  she stated  that                                                               
since 2012 she has worked with 245 victims.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER referenced  Alaska State  Trooper data,                                                               
pointing  out   that  there   have  only   been  85   charges  of                                                               
trafficking, with 20 convictions since around 2012.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS  expressed the  desire for  the victims  to be  able to                                                               
testify against the  traffickers; however, she stated  that it is                                                               
rare for the victims to have the confidence to do this.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS,  in  response  to a  request  of  Priceless  Alaska's                                                               
process, stated  that first there  is a screening, as  there must                                                               
be  a legitimate  story of  trafficking.   She  stated that  next                                                               
there would  be an  intake process, and  the individual  would be                                                               
assigned a  mentor team  and case manager.   She  reiterated that                                                               
the  organization  is client  directive,  so  the case  is  built                                                               
around  what  the victim  needs.    She  stated that  before  any                                                               
funding  can  be given  to  the  victim,  the paperwork  must  be                                                               
processed; therefore, funding at  this time comes from Priceless.                                                               
She responded that this takes a month to six weeks.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE noted that words  like force, fraud, and coercion are                                                               
important  concerning   human  trafficking.    She   requested  a                                                               
description  of what  these words  look  like to  someone who  is                                                               
being trafficked.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS  related  a  story  of a  victim  who  never  met  the                                                               
trafficker,  as it  was  all done  over the  internet.   She  had                                                               
befriended someone who came across  as a potential boyfriend, and                                                               
he asked  for pictures  and videos.   It came out  that he  was a                                                               
fraud, and she was blackmailed.   From this she felt forced to be                                                               
a  prostitute.   She stated  that this  is an  example of  force,                                                               
fraud, and  coercion.  She  added that  fear is a  driving factor                                                               
behind all  of this.   She provided  another case example  of the                                                               
use of fear.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:38:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS,  in response to  a committee question,  confirmed that                                                               
in six  high schools  in Alaska,  minors are  trafficking minors.                                                               
For  example,  she explained  that  a  boyfriend would  tell  his                                                               
girlfriend to  sleep with a  man for cash  or drugs.   She stated                                                               
that  often the  exchange  is  for drugs.    She reiterated  that                                                               
traffickers look for vulnerable or addicted individuals.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS,  in response  to a  committee question,  expressed the                                                               
understanding  that the  high schools  mentioned are  the six  in                                                               
Anchorage.  She  listed these schools.  She  responded that there                                                               
has  been an  aggressive presence  in the  schools over  the past                                                               
year  concerning training  around trafficking.   She  stated that                                                               
this has  "not been  an easy  sell;" however,  this is  now being                                                               
addressed  as  "safety  training"   so  students  are  taught  to                                                               
recognize a predator.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD  suggested   that  the  proposed  parental                                                               
rights bill  could include some cautionary  training that parents                                                               
could opt into.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:42:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE mentioned  legislation passed  last year  concerning                                                               
"sextortion,"  as this  addresses  many things  described in  the                                                               
presentation, such  as exchanged photos  used as blackmail.   She                                                               
acknowledged that  currently this  can be classified  as domestic                                                               
violence.    She advised  the  committee  that these  things  are                                                               
likely happening  in every high  school and middle school  in the                                                               
state, and she  added that children are vulnerable.   She advised                                                               
that  trafficking  is  occurring,  and  not  only  in  the  adult                                                               
context.  She suggested that good laws need to be passed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:44:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS, in  response  to a  committee  question, stated  that                                                               
minors trafficking minors  are usually one-off events,  such as a                                                               
group of men behind a  13-year-old trafficker.  She expressed the                                                               
opinion that the unlimited use of  the internet is the main cause                                                               
of trafficking in youth.  She  added that as the state has better                                                               
connectivity  with   the  internet,  this  would   become  worse,                                                               
especially since the laws in the state are not effective.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ADAMS, in  response  to a  committee  question, stated  that                                                               
there  needs  to be  recognition  that  Alaska is  a  trafficking                                                               
origination point,  with the vast  majority of victims  taken out                                                               
of state.   To understand vulnerabilities, she  suggested a focus                                                               
on the foster  care system.  She stated that  700 youth aging out                                                               
of the system without finding  a home creates vulnerability.  She                                                               
expressed the  understanding that 40  percent of those  aging out                                                               
of foster  care end up on  the street, with 100  percent of these                                                               
approached by traffickers.  She  offered the advice that for this                                                               
to change "other areas of brokenness"  need to be addressed.  She                                                               
reiterated  that 40  percent  of  teenagers who  age  out of  the                                                               
state's  foster care  system are  homeless, with  100 percent  of                                                               
these  approached  by  traffickers.   She  expressed  uncertainty                                                               
concerning the number who are recruited.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:50:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS, in  response to a committee question,  stated that her                                                               
prime  motivation   is  to  end   trafficking.     She  expressed                                                               
frustration with  the argument that prostitution  is a victimless                                                               
crime.   She  suggested  that the  burden should  be  put on  the                                                               
buyers of sex,  as these people should be aware  that they may be                                                               
purchasing a  child or a  person who has been  repeatedly forced.                                                               
She  argued  that  if  the  patrons  are  not  asking  the  right                                                               
questions, they should be "behind bars."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. ADAMS, in  response to a follow-up question,  stated that she                                                               
has  the   same  beliefs  concerning  child   pornography.    She                                                               
expressed   the   understanding   that   with   better   internet                                                               
connectivity throughout the  state, there will be  an increase of                                                               
child pornography, as it is very lucrative.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Chair Vance offered closing comments on the presentation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:56 p.m. to 1:57 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): MY House                                                                                                      
                   PRESENTATION(S): MY House                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
1:57:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
the presentation by MY House on human sex trafficking.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE  OVERSTREET, Executive  Director, MY  House, provided  a                                                               
PowerPoint   presentation,  titled   "The  fight   Against  Human                                                               
Trafficking  in Alaska,"  [hard  copy included  in the  committee                                                               
packet].   She stated that MY  House serves youth from  age 14 to                                                               
age 26.  She  noted that the director of MY House  is funded by a                                                               
grant from  the U.S.  Department of  Justice and  by fundraisers.                                                               
She pointed out  the director's bio on slide 2,  noting that from                                                               
the age of 17 she suffered 7 years of sexual assault.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET moved to slide 3  and pointed out that she started                                                               
MY House  in 2009.   She pointed out that  at that time  she knew                                                               
nothing  of   homeless  youth;  however,  as   a  master's  level                                                               
councilor,  she  knew  that  Alaska  had  the  highest  rates  of                                                               
domestic  violence,  abuse,  rape,   and  sexual  assault.    She                                                               
expressed  the   understanding  that   many  victims   have  been                                                               
trafficked  by  families and  groomed  by  domestic violence  and                                                               
assault,  and this  creates harder  situations for  police to  be                                                               
involved in.  From their stories,  she has learned that youth are                                                               
often consistently  abused by adults  who say they  are "helping"                                                               
them.   She  noted that  helping  the staff  at MY  House are  an                                                               
assigned FBI  agent, an  Alaska State  Trooper taskforce,  and an                                                               
extra patrol from the Wasilla Police Department.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET  moved to slide  4 and  slide 5, titled  "MY House                                                               
Trafficking Data."   She noted  that out  of its 456  clients, 42                                                               
have reported  as being sex trafficked.   She pointed out  the MY                                                               
House definitions  of sex trafficking  and labor  trafficking, as                                                               
seen on the slide.  She  discussed the questions asked during the                                                               
intake process  at MY House,  as these lead to  understanding the                                                               
needs of  victims.  She  pointed out  that the number  of clients                                                               
who have reported  being trafficked has doubled over  the last 27                                                               
months.  She  expressed the belief that these  numbers have risen                                                               
because  of  activities  on  the  internet  during  the  COVID-19                                                               
pandemic  and the  fact that  domestic violence  does not  easily                                                               
fool authorities and staff any longer.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:03:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET moved to slide  6, addressing the questions of how                                                               
trafficking happens and  who it happens to.  She  stated that the                                                               
two  case managers  at MY  House see  an average  of 100  youth a                                                               
week.  On the slide she  gave examples of how grooming groundwork                                                               
is laid out  for victims.  She noted that  risk factors for [easy                                                               
grooming] are  present in Alaska.   She urged the  committee that                                                               
better laws  are needed.   She moved to  slide 7 which  listed MY                                                               
House statistics for its clients.   These statistics include that                                                               
76  percent of  its clients  have reported  experiencing domestic                                                               
violence.  She expressed the opinion  that over 90 percent of the                                                               
clients have experienced substance abuse.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET  discussed wrap around  services to  survivors, as                                                               
seen  on  slide  8.    These  include  on-site  case  management,                                                               
transitional supported  housing, substance abuse  treatment, high                                                               
school completion, paid job training, and more.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET  moved to  slide 9 and  discussed the  Alaska Stop                                                               
Human Trafficking  Alliance (ASHTA).   She stated ASHTA  has four                                                               
top areas  of focus for  youth, which include education  and age-                                                               
appropriate  curriculum.   She  expressed  the  opinion that  the                                                               
SPEAK UP  program has promise  in the  state.  She  discussed the                                                               
People's First  Initiative and  the flyers  posted at  the Alaska                                                               
State Fair  to raise  awareness of trafficking.   She  added that                                                               
the Alaska State Fair is  the highest single point of trafficking                                                               
in the state.  She  continued listing ASHTA's efforts in bringing                                                               
awareness to  sex trafficking in the  state.  She moved  to slide                                                               
10, which showed an example of  a flyer distributed at the Alaska                                                               
State Fair.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET moved to slide 11,  titled "Why it is so important                                                               
to pass  HB 68  from a  survivor's stand  point?"   She explained                                                               
that  the  proposed  legislation   would  provide  greater  legal                                                               
protections  to  victims  by   expunging  records  of  trafficked                                                               
victims.   She explained the  difficulties for  these individuals                                                               
as they try  to recover from something that they  had not chosen,                                                               
but for  which the record  follows them.   She stated that  HB 68                                                               
would also increase penalties for buyers  of sex to a Class B sex                                                               
felony, if  under 18,  and a  Class C  felony, if  over 18.   She                                                               
added that  these individuals  would be  required to  register as                                                               
sex offenders.  She argued  that the legislation should be passed                                                               
"sooner rather  than later," as  more victims will  "fall through                                                               
the cracks."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:15:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET moved  to slide 12 and played a  video of a young,                                                               
anonymous victim discussing her experiences.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET  concluded on slide 13  and slide 14.   She argued                                                               
that  lawmakers may  only  have  two or  three  times  to make  a                                                               
difference  for youth,  and  this is  one of  these  times.   She                                                               
expressed the importance  for victims to be able  to identify and                                                               
testify against  traffickers.  She  acknowledged that this  is an                                                               
uncomfortable topic that  is easy to discard.   She expressed the                                                               
understanding  that  part  of  this is  because  people  who  are                                                               
involved do not want others to know.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OVERSTREET  stated that  out  of  the  42 clients  who  have                                                               
reported an  experience in sex  trafficking, no  traffickers have                                                               
been prosecuted.   She  stressed that even  with an  assigned FBI                                                               
agent and extra police patrols,  a charge has never been brought.                                                               
She suggested that  when traffickers give victims  drugs, this is                                                               
"a  get out  of jail  free  card," because  a victim's  testimony                                                               
would  then be  considered compromised.   She  argued that  these                                                               
perpetrators need  to be incarcerated,  otherwise they  will kill                                                               
their victims.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:25:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE   thanked  the  presenter   and  noted   the  highly                                                               
uncomfortable nature of the discussion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OVERSTREET,  in response  to  a  request from  Chair  Vance,                                                               
explained that  for many  of the clients,  grooming looks  like a                                                               
boyfriend who  wants to take  care of  the victim by  giving them                                                               
nice things.   She stated that  for low-income clients this  is a                                                               
"Cinderella story."   She stated that after some  weeks or months                                                               
of  this type  of treatment,  the trafficker  will then  tell the                                                               
victim  that there  is some  kind of  financial crunch,  with the                                                               
solution  being that  the victim  engages  in prostitution  "just                                                               
this  once."    She  suggested   that  this  usually  starts  out                                                               
innocuous, but in a short amount  of time the victim then becomes                                                               
indebted to  an unimaginable extent.   She further  discussed why                                                               
and how people are being trapped by traffickers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OVERSTREET, in  response to  a follow-up  request concerning                                                               
the signs of  trafficking, suggested that parents  should look at                                                               
their child's  phone every day.   Concerning gaming,  she pointed                                                               
out  two  games  that  were  designed  by  pedophiles,  who  were                                                               
grooming in the  chatrooms of the game.  She  explained that this                                                               
is why  education in schools  is important,  as youth need  to be                                                               
taught that people  talking on a game are not  always another 12-                                                               
year-old.    She suggested  that  parents  should talk  to  their                                                               
children about who  their friends are and what  their friends are                                                               
doing.   She  suggested putting  a tracker  on the  phone if  the                                                               
child is  sneaking out  at night.   She also  noted if  the child                                                               
comes home with expensive gifts, this is a red flag.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:31:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OVERSTREET,  in  response  to  a  request  for  examples  of                                                               
preschoolers  molested  or  trafficked by  parents,  stated  that                                                               
these clients  are generally youth  who eventually run  away from                                                               
home.  She stated that  clients with parents who are perpetrators                                                               
have a loyalty  to the parents, as the victim  has been raised to                                                               
keep  the  secret, but  also,  this  is  the  same type  of  fear                                                               
generated from traffickers.  She  pointed out that these would be                                                               
the pre-groomed  children.  She expressed  the understanding that                                                               
Alaska rates of child abuse and violence fuel this.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET, in response to  a follow-up question, stated that                                                               
education would help because it  increases the understanding that                                                               
the victim  is not alone,  as it  happens to other  children too.                                                               
Education would  also help the  understanding that  this behavior                                                               
is harmful  and not  normal.  She  suggested that  counselling in                                                               
schools can intervene  and pickup on clues that  otherwise may be                                                               
missed.    She   pointed  out  that  Alaska  is   big,  and  many                                                               
organizations do not  do a good job of  networking with community                                                               
partners.  She concluded that education is the bottom line.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET, in response to  a committee question, stated that                                                               
MY  House is  a mandatory  reporter.   In regard  to whether  the                                                               
organization  is  culpable  for   not  reporting,  she  expressed                                                               
uncertainty  because this  has never  happened,  adding that  the                                                               
challenge is not necessarily in  the reporting, and she related a                                                               
story concerning this and how  a youth fell "through the cracks."                                                               
She pointed out  how many entities that serve youth,  such as the                                                               
Office  of  Children  Services  (OCS), are  not  trained  to  see                                                               
instances of  trafficking, and she  reiterated that  there should                                                               
be mandatory training on sex  trafficking for those who work with                                                               
youth.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET,  in response to  a follow-up  question concerning                                                               
responsibility for  mandatory reporting,  stated that this  is on                                                               
the radar  for MY House  staff.  She expressed  the understanding                                                               
that OCS  does not have the  staff to deal with  16- and 17-year-                                                               
olds  who  are  in  trouble.   She  argued  that  some  of  these                                                               
teenagers  are  the most  vulnerable  people  and should  receive                                                               
services.   She stated that  there is a way  for MY House  to put                                                               
17-year-olds in  transitional housing if  they are at risk.   She                                                               
added that extra  housing is being built to do  this.  She stated                                                               
that the organization  is reporting these instances,  but it does                                                               
not have the same capacity as state organizations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:42:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. OVERSTREET,  in response to  a committee  question concerning                                                               
the age  of consent of 16  years old, expressed the  wish that it                                                               
had stayed at 17 years old, as  this would give an extra year for                                                               
the maturing process.  She stated  that the general rule is, if a                                                               
youth  is  in  three  years  of the  older  individual,  this  is                                                               
consent, unless  there is  evidence of  grooming.   She discussed                                                               
the  strategic  relationship  between  MY House  and  the  police                                                               
department in Wasilla.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE referenced the bill  that recently raised the age for                                                               
missing persons  to 21 years  old.   She commented that  this age                                                               
group  would still  be  vulnerable to  coercion.   She  expressed                                                               
concern that these  younger individuals do not  realize that they                                                               
are  being trafficked  and they  need  to be  protected a  little                                                               
longer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GROH   commented    on   his   experience   with                                                               
sophisticated predators, and he relayed  the story.  He requested                                                               
a discussion of this.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OVERSTREET pointed  out that  there is  a specific  group of                                                               
abusers, whose children  talk and look normal but  hide that they                                                               
have  been beaten.   She  noted  that some  traffickers are  like                                                               
these abusers,  as they know  where to hit  so it does  not show.                                                               
She  spoke about  multi-generational  abuse.   She expressed  the                                                               
understanding  that there  is a  particular relationship  between                                                               
Alaska and  Texas, as many  people are  taken to and  from Texas.                                                               
She  continued giving  examples  of victims  being moved  around,                                                               
expressing  the understanding  that this  would help  traffickers                                                               
from  getting caught.   She  advised that  many traffickers  have                                                               
calculated  behavior to  avoid law  enforcement.   She  continued                                                               
that  youth  who  are  disabled  or  have  a  low-level  learning                                                               
disability are often targeted.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:53:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  requested  advice  for   those  who  may  be  in  a                                                               
vulnerable situation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OVERSTREET urged  individuals to  educate themselves  and to                                                               
know  what  to  look  for.     She  suggested  studying  grooming                                                               
information  to understand  what  a trafficker  might  say.   She                                                               
continued  that  those in  this  situation  should run  and  find                                                               
people who would help by hiding them from danger.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE  added that there  is an incredible amount  of shame,                                                               
and this is  what prevents women and boys from  speaking up.  She                                                               
continued that  it is  important for  these people  to understand                                                               
that they are not alone.  She thanked the presenters.