Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/30/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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HOUSE BILL NO. 68                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  relating to sex trafficking;  establishing the                                                                    
     crime  of  patron  of  a  victim  of  sex  trafficking;                                                                    
     relating to  the crime  of human  trafficking; relating                                                                    
     to  prostitution;   relating  to  sentencing   for  sex                                                                    
     trafficking,  patron of  a victim  of sex  trafficking,                                                                    
     and  human trafficking;  establishing  the process  for                                                                    
     vacating   judgments   for   certain   convictions   of                                                                    
     prostitution  and  misconduct  involving  a  controlled                                                                    
     substance;   relating  to   the  Council   on  Domestic                                                                    
     Violence  and  Sexual  Assault; relating  to  permanent                                                                    
     fund   dividends   for    certain   individuals   whose                                                                    
     convictions   are  vacated;   and   providing  for   an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:10:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANGIE KEMP, DIRECTOR, CRIMINAL  DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF LAW,                                                                    
introduced herself  and her  colleague, Ms.  Kate Tallmadge,                                                                    
who was the assistant attorney  general at the Department of                                                                    
Law (DOL).  She explained  that Ms. Tallmadge  was available                                                                    
to  provide  a  sectional  breakdown  of  the  bill  if  the                                                                    
committee   desired.  She   relayed  that   human  and   sex                                                                    
trafficking was  a $32  billion industry  worldwide, ranking                                                                    
as the second most  profitable criminal enterprise after the                                                                    
illicit sale  of controlled substances. She  emphasized that                                                                    
the industry  specifically targeted  vulnerable individuals,                                                                    
with young  girls often  entering the sex  trade at  ages as                                                                    
early as  12 to 13.  The age was  even younger for  boys and                                                                    
was typically  between 11 and  13 years old.  The statistics                                                                    
came from  a study  conducted by  the federal  Department of                                                                    
Justice (DOJ)  in conjunction with  the National  Center for                                                                    
Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kemp explained  that it was challenging  to estimate the                                                                    
number of individuals affected by  sex and human trafficking                                                                    
each  year  as  it   was  difficult  to  quantify.  However,                                                                    
estimates  from DOJ  and organizations  such as  the Polaris                                                                    
Project  suggested that  as many  as 27  million individuals                                                                    
were  affected in  the United  States alone.  The number  of                                                                    
prosecutions related  to human and sex  trafficking had been                                                                    
rising. She  explained that DOJ  had seen a 61  percent rise                                                                    
in referrals for trafficking cases  from 2011 to 2020. There                                                                    
was  also  a growing  recognition  of  the severity  of  the                                                                    
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kemp  explained that human  and sex trafficking  did not                                                                    
occur in  a vacuum.  She emphasized that  traffickers preyed                                                                    
on individuals  from various walks of  life, including those                                                                    
who  were dependent  on  controlled substances,  immigrants,                                                                    
runaways,  homeless  individuals,   and  those  with  mental                                                                    
health  concerns.  Many  of  the   components  in  the  bill                                                                    
overlapped with  these various  factors. She  explained that                                                                    
traffickers  constantly  adapted  their  methods,  including                                                                    
finding   victims  through   social  media   platforms  like                                                                    
Instagram that specifically targeted youth.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kemp relayed  that the  Governor's Council  on Sex  and                                                                    
Human Trafficking  had been focused  on tackling  the issue.                                                                    
In   Alaska,  efforts   to   address  trafficking   included                                                                    
increasing  education   and  awareness,   providing  support                                                                    
services  for   victims,  enhancing  law   enforcement,  and                                                                    
improving  prosecution   efforts  through   legislation  and                                                                    
policy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kemp relayed that the  bill addressed many of the issues                                                                    
she had mentioned.  She explained that it  elevated the most                                                                    
serious  aspects  of  sex trafficking  crimes  to  a  higher                                                                    
classification. For  example, sex  trafficking in  the first                                                                    
degree,  where  force  was  used to  induce  a  person  into                                                                    
engaging  in  a  commercial  sex   act,  was  raised  to  an                                                                    
unclassified  felony offense,  which  was  the most  serious                                                                    
felony in the state.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kemp  highlighted  that the  bill  introduced  specific                                                                    
definitions   and   examples   for  recruitment   into   sex                                                                    
trafficking, emphasizing that the  language used in the bill                                                                    
clarified  what  was  meant  by  "inducing"  a  person  into                                                                    
trafficking. The  bill also  moved sex  trafficking offenses                                                                    
from  AS 11.66,  to AS  11.41, a  move that  she argued  was                                                                    
important for a variety of reasons.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:16:31 PM                                                                                                                    
Ms.  Kemp   explained  that  the  change   would  allow  for                                                                    
additional  protections for  victims, such  as limiting  the                                                                    
ability   for  the   defense  to   request  psychiatric   or                                                                    
psychological  evaluations of  the  victims.  The move  also                                                                    
allowed for  the appointment of  a guardian ad litem  when a                                                                    
victim  was under  the  age of  16.  Additionally, the  bill                                                                    
prevented bail  for individuals charged with  offenses under                                                                    
AS  11.41, prohibited  negotiated sentences  between victims                                                                    
and defendants,  and eliminated  the ability  for defendants                                                                    
to   earn  credit   for  time   served  through   electronic                                                                    
monitoring.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kemp shared  that  the  bill was  also  focused on  the                                                                    
demand  side  of  trafficking and  it  would  introduce  new                                                                    
classifications  for   sex  trafficking,   including  first,                                                                    
second,  and third-degree  sex trafficking.  The bill  would                                                                    
also create a  new crime: patronizing a  sex trafficker. The                                                                    
changes were designed  to target the demand  that fueled the                                                                    
trafficking industry.  She reiterated the importance  of the                                                                    
legislation  in  combating  sex  and  human  trafficking  in                                                                    
Alaska, emphasizing  that the bill intended  to address both                                                                    
the  supply and  demand aspects  of the  issue and  increase                                                                    
penalties  across  the  board   for  various  offenses.  She                                                                    
explained that the bill recognized  the importance of severe                                                                    
deterrence   and   consequences   for  those   involved   in                                                                    
trafficking. She  highlighted components  of the  bill aimed                                                                    
at assisting  victims of sex  trafficking, such  as allowing                                                                    
victims  to have  prostitution  charges  removed from  their                                                                    
records.  She  noted  that  this was  a  rare  provision  in                                                                    
criminal   law  and   offered  a   unique  opportunity   for                                                                    
individuals  who had  been trafficked  to move  forward with                                                                    
their lives.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kemp  emphasized that the  bill was one of  many efforts                                                                    
in the  state's broader  strategy to  address sex  and human                                                                    
trafficking.  She recognized  that the  bill was  part of  a                                                                    
multifaceted  approach  to  tackle the  widespread  problem,                                                                    
raise awareness, and provide support  for victims who sought                                                                    
it. She offered to go  through the sectional analysis, which                                                                    
would take  about 20 minutes.  She suggested  hearing public                                                                    
testimony before proceeding further.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:19:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:20:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMBER   NICKERSON,   COMMUNITY   UNITED   FOR   SAFETY   AND                                                                    
PROTECTION, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), stated that she                                                                    
opposed HB  68. She did  not think that the  bill adequately                                                                    
addressed  sex trafficking.  She  argued  that allowing  the                                                                    
state  to charge  a sex  worker with  a Class  B felony  for                                                                    
prostitution  was  problematic. She  noted  that  a Class  B                                                                    
felony  included serious  crimes like  first-degree burglary                                                                    
and extortion  and carried a sentence  of up to 10  years in                                                                    
prison  and  up  to  $100,000  in  fines.  The  fiscal  note                                                                    
associated with  the bill, which  listed no  additional cost                                                                    
for  the   Alaska  Bureau   of  Investigations   (ABI),  was                                                                    
unrealistic.   She    argued   that    adding   felony-level                                                                    
prostitution offenses  would result  in increased  costs for                                                                    
the state, particularly  for investigations and prostitution                                                                    
stings,  which she  claimed would  disproportionately affect                                                                    
marginalized individuals.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Nickerson   was  also  concerned  about   the  proposed                                                                    
penalties  for  clients  of  sex  workers.  If  someone  was                                                                    
convicted  three   times  within  a  five-year   period  for                                                                    
prostitution in the third degree,  the individual would face                                                                    
a Class B  felony charge and it would result  in a five-year                                                                    
prison  sentence.  She  argued that  the  increased  penalty                                                                    
could discourage  clients from reporting  criminal activity.                                                                    
She  was  concerned that  the  bill's  focus on  prosecuting                                                                    
clients would  undermine efforts  to encourage  witnesses to                                                                    
report violent  offenders in the  community. She  added that                                                                    
the  bill did  not  address sex  trafficking,  as it  lacked                                                                    
references  to   force,  fraud,  or  coercion,   which  were                                                                    
essential elements of trafficking.  She expressed her belief                                                                    
that the bill's provisions  on prostitution stings would not                                                                    
address  the  root  causes  of  sex  trafficking  and  would                                                                    
instead  criminalize individuals  who  were  often the  most                                                                    
vulnerable.   She   was   also  concerned   about   publicly                                                                    
condemning  individuals  without due  process,  specifically                                                                    
pointing out  the practice  of listing  arrests in  the news                                                                    
and papers before individuals have been found guilty.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Nickerson  relayed   that  she   disagreed  with   the                                                                    
criminalization  of sex  work. She  noted the  discrepancies                                                                    
between  the  criminal  charges for  different  prostitution                                                                    
offenses. The  bill would create  harsher penalties  for sex                                                                    
workers  and clients  while offering  sex for  a fee  in the                                                                    
fourth degree was  classified as a Class  D misdemeanor. She                                                                    
questioned whether  the committee cared about  the safety of                                                                    
sex workers. She  stated that HB 68 would  only increase the                                                                    
stigma  and  violence  faced  by  sex  workers  and  further                                                                    
criminalize them. She claimed that  the bill did not address                                                                    
sex trafficking  and criticized the  fiscal notes  for being                                                                    
unrealistic.  She concluded  by  stating that  the bill  was                                                                    
harmful and would  not effectively address the  issue of sex                                                                    
trafficking in  Alaska. She also  raised concerns  about the                                                                    
discredited statistic  regarding the  age of entry  into the                                                                    
sex  industry,  which  she  stated   had  been  debunked  by                                                                    
multiple  sources, including  the  Washington  Post and  The                                                                    
Atlantic in 2014.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:25:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRA  BURNS,  ADVOCATE,  COMMUNITY UNITED  FOR  SAFETY  AND                                                                    
PROTECTION, FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), shared that she                                                                    
was  sex  trafficked  as  a  minor  and  now  worked  as  an                                                                    
advocate.  She   had  been  involved  in   research  at  the                                                                    
University  of Alaska  Fairbanks (UAF)  that contributed  to                                                                    
policy   changes  in   related  to   prostitution  and   sex                                                                    
trafficking laws under  SB 91, which was passed  into law in                                                                    
2016. She currently  also worked as the  Research and Policy                                                                    
Director at an  organization called Call Off  Your Old Tired                                                                    
Ethics   (COYOTE),  Rhode   Island,   where  she   conducted                                                                    
participatory   action  research   with   sex  workers   and                                                                    
trafficking survivors.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Burns  expressed opposition  to HB  68, stating  that it                                                                    
would only  exacerbate sex trafficking  in Alaska.  She also                                                                    
addressed  the discredited  statistic regarding  the age  of                                                                    
entry into  the sex industry,  which she explained  had been                                                                    
debunked  by  major  publications. She  questioned  why  the                                                                    
government  would  create  laws   that  could  increase  sex                                                                    
trafficking under the guise of  addressing it and questioned                                                                    
the bill's focus  on the sex industry  over other industries                                                                    
with  higher  rates  of trafficking,  such  as  the  fishing                                                                    
industry in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Burns acknowledged  that the  bill was  too complex  to                                                                    
address  in  full within  a  few  minutes. She  argued  that                                                                    
creating a  new provision  for felony prostitution  and make                                                                    
it  a  Class B  felony  would  criminalize sex  workers  who                                                                    
shared hotel rooms  for safety, a common  practice among sex                                                                    
workers  to  protect  themselves from  potential  harm.  She                                                                    
explained  that  while  current law  applied  to  those  who                                                                    
profited from prostitution, it did  not apply to sex workers                                                                    
sharing a space for mutual protection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Burns shared  a personal account of  being trafficked as                                                                    
a minor  in Fairbanks by  her father, noting that  houses of                                                                    
prostitution at  the time operated with  regular payments to                                                                    
police, allowing  for safer  conditions where  victims could                                                                    
seek help  from others. She  stressed that laws like  HB 68,                                                                    
which  criminalized safety  measures  in  the sex  industry,                                                                    
would leave  vulnerable individuals like herself  as a child                                                                    
without   support  systems,   thus  isolating   victims  and                                                                    
exacerbating their exploitation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Burns  argued that the  bill would  criminalize clients,                                                                    
even  those  who  merely  solicited,   but  did  not  follow                                                                    
through,   for    serious   felonies.   She    warned   that                                                                    
criminalization   would   discourage   clients   who   might                                                                    
otherwise  help  identify  and  report  cases  of  real  sex                                                                    
trafficking  from contacting  law  enforcement, which  would                                                                    
hinder efforts to combat  actual trafficking. She reiterated                                                                    
that  the bill  would have  negative financial  implications                                                                    
and  would drive  sex  trafficking  further underground  and                                                                    
impose  substantial  costs  on  the  state.  She  urged  the                                                                    
committee to oppose HB 68.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:30:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAXINE DOOGAN,  COMMUNITY UNITED FOR SAFETY  AND PROTECTION,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), was  a member  of Community                                                                    
United for  Safety and Protection  (CUSP), a  group composed                                                                    
of  current   and  former   sex  workers,   sex  trafficking                                                                    
survivors,  and  their  allies.   She  shared  her  personal                                                                    
experience  as  a sex  worker  with  over  35 years  in  the                                                                    
industry, stating her intention  to continue working for the                                                                    
foreseeable future.  She expressed  strong opposition  to HB
68,  primarily due  to its  fiscal irresponsibility  and the                                                                    
negative   impact  it   would  have   on  sex   workers  and                                                                    
trafficking survivors.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Dugan  relayed that the bill  would allow administrative                                                                    
subpoenas  for suspected  sex  trafficking,  which would  be                                                                    
primarily   used  against   sex   workers  and   trafficking                                                                    
survivors. She  argued that the provision  violated the U.S.                                                                    
Constitution's  Fourth Amendment's  privacy protections  and                                                                    
would result in  significant legal costs for  the state. The                                                                    
bill would  also allow Alaska's Violent  Crimes Compensation                                                                    
Board to order restitution  from sex workers and trafficking                                                                    
survivors,  such as  compensation to  families of  customers                                                                    
who  died while  engaging in  prostitution. She  argued that                                                                    
the  provision  would   unfairly  penalize  individuals  who                                                                    
engaged in  safety practices within the  industry that would                                                                    
be criminalized under the bill.  She was also concerned with                                                                    
the bill's definition  of "fee" and thought that  it was too                                                                    
ambiguous particularly  relating to the exchange  of sex for                                                                    
housing rather  than money. She questioned  whether the bill                                                                    
intended  to exempt  clients who  paid  with housing  rather                                                                    
than money, or if it  would provide sex workers with clarity                                                                    
on   how  to   define   "reasonably  appropriated"   housing                                                                    
expenses. She  urged the committee  to not  waste additional                                                                    
state resources on prostitution  sting operations that could                                                                    
result in the arrest of  sex trafficking victims rather than                                                                    
perpetrators.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:33:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin noted  that many  of the  testimonies                                                                    
had come from people  affiliated with the same organization,                                                                    
and  she   was  curious  about  potential   alternatives  or                                                                    
solutions. She asked  Ms. Doogan if she  had any suggestions                                                                    
for  legislation that  could address  the issue,  especially                                                                    
since it  seemed that she  believed HB 68 would  not resolve                                                                    
the  problem.  She  acknowledged  the global  scale  of  the                                                                    
trafficking  industry   and  wanted  to  pursue   ideas  for                                                                    
effective action.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.    Doogan   responded    that    CUSP   supported    the                                                                    
decriminalization  of  prostitution,   similar  to  a  prior                                                                    
approach in  Alaska where prostitution was  not criminalized                                                                    
and   laws   were   not  enforced.   She   emphasized   that                                                                    
decriminalization  allowed individuals  in the  sex industry                                                                    
to  work together  in a  safer environment,  particularly in                                                                    
places  like  Fairbanks.   Historically,  the  approach  had                                                                    
allowed  for  better  communication among  sex  workers  and                                                                    
safer   practices,  including   sharing  information   about                                                                    
clients   who  might   be  dangerous.   The  conflation   of                                                                    
prostitution   laws  with   sex  trafficking   offenses  was                                                                    
problematic.  She   argued  that  by   criminalizing  safety                                                                    
measures  like sharing  spaces with  other sex  workers, the                                                                    
legislation  was pushing  individuals  further into  danger.                                                                    
She   stressed  that   the  focus   should  be   on  helping                                                                    
individuals  who wanted  to  get out  of  the industry,  but                                                                    
criminalizing  aspects   of  the  sex  industry   under  the                                                                    
umbrella of sex trafficking was not the solution.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin   thanked   Ms.   Doogan   for   her                                                                    
perspective. She did  not think there was a  clear answer on                                                                    
how to specifically address sex trafficking.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:36:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYNN   TOBEY,   SELF,    ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
introduced  herself  and explained  that  the  issue was  so                                                                    
important to her that she took  the day off work in order to                                                                    
testify.  She had  been  following  the legislative  process                                                                    
since  2015 and  she felt  the  issue was  too important  to                                                                    
ignore. She opposed HB 68 as it was currently written.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tobey  shared a deeply  personal story,  explaining that                                                                    
her  26-year-old  daughter was  currently  a  victim of  sex                                                                    
trafficking.  She  expressed  concern that  the  bill  would                                                                    
eliminate opportunities  for her daughter to  find safety if                                                                    
a  sex customer  did not  report a  dangerous situation  for                                                                    
fear  of  being  charged  with a  crime.  Her  daughter  had                                                                    
experienced repeated trauma after  being trafficked, and the                                                                    
experience had  taken an  emotional toll  on them  both. She                                                                    
described one  of the most harrowing  recent encounters with                                                                    
her daughter.  On March  30, 2024, she  had received  a call                                                                    
from an unknown number, hearing  her daughter's voice and an                                                                    
intense  argument in  the background.  The call  was quickly                                                                    
ended.  After   several  attempts  to  call   back  with  no                                                                    
response, an  hour later, she  received a text  message from                                                                    
the same  number, requesting Ms.  Tobey to come pick  up her                                                                    
daughter from a  local gas station. When she  arrived at the                                                                    
gas station, her daughter was  not there. As she frantically                                                                    
searched, she  eventually found her daughter  walking in the                                                                    
parking  lot of  a  nearby  hotel, with  a  bloody nose  and                                                                    
visibly shaken.  Once her daughter entered  the vehicle, she                                                                    
urgently  asked  to  leave  the   area.  Her  daughter  then                                                                    
disclosed  that  she  was being  prostituted  and  that  the                                                                    
perpetrator had  tried to kill  her. In shock,  her daughter                                                                    
was unwilling to talk about  her current situation, a direct                                                                    
result of the conditioning she had experienced.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tobey relayed  that she had offered to  get her daughter                                                                    
medical  help, but  her daughter  declined,  only asking  to                                                                    
take  a  shower and  change  into  clean clothes.  She  also                                                                    
requested  to rest  in a  safe  place and  eat. Despite  her                                                                    
offer  to   take  her  daughter  to   safety,  her  daughter                                                                    
requested that the trafficker pick  her up, as she was going                                                                    
into heroin withdrawal.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Tobey  highlighted   that  Alaska   lacked  sufficient                                                                    
resources  for  victims  of  sex  trafficking,  particularly                                                                    
those  who  have  suffered into  adulthood.  There  were  no                                                                    
emergency  shelters or  specialized counselors  available to                                                                    
serve the  unique needs  of such  victims. She  was strongly                                                                    
opposed to HB  68 and she thought  that incorrectly charging                                                                    
victims  of  sex  trafficking with  felonies  would  further                                                                    
inhibit  their chances  of recovery  and reintegration.  She                                                                    
urged that  there should be  increased awareness  about what                                                                    
human trafficking looked like  and hoped the committee would                                                                    
oppose the bill.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:41:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AJELA   BANKS,   SELF,   ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
indicated  that  she  was  a survivor,  not  a  victim.  She                                                                    
explained  that she  was representing  a  lineage of  silent                                                                    
women  who had  been manipulated  into appearing  as victims                                                                    
within  their  communities. She  thought  that  HB 68  would                                                                    
perpetuate the  harmful dynamic, making it  harder for women                                                                    
to  escape  their  situations. She  shared  that  while  she                                                                    
agreed with  some aspects of  the bill, she could  not fully                                                                    
support it. She felt that  the approach being used to combat                                                                    
sex   trafficking  was   disingenuous,   describing  it   as                                                                    
"gaslighting." She had repeatedly  spoken to the FBI, police                                                                    
officers, and other  agencies, but she had  not been helped.                                                                    
Many of  her clients were  military police officers  and she                                                                    
felt that individuals  who were meant to  be responsible for                                                                    
helping  her  were  not  recognizing   their  own  roles  in                                                                    
enabling trafficking.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Banks  shared that her experiences  with authorities led                                                                    
to further victimization, ultimately  resulting in her being                                                                    
convicted of  conspiracy to  sex traffic at  the age  of 19.                                                                    
She expressed  frustration that those  who were  supposed to                                                                    
help  her were  instead contributing  to her  victimization.                                                                    
She had only  been known in the community of  Anchorage as a                                                                    
sexually exploited, missing foster  child. Her case was part                                                                    
of a task  force operation involving both  state and federal                                                                    
police. She expressed frustration  that the standard process                                                                    
for handling her case was  neglected. She thought that HB 68                                                                    
would  make  it   easier  for  perpetrators  to   act  in  a                                                                    
misogynistic manner and avoid  facing consequences for their                                                                    
actions.  She relayed  that she  was  still seeking  relief,                                                                    
though she  felt she  had gained  a better  understanding of                                                                    
the issues at hand.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:44:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE  OVERSTREET, FOUNDER  AND  CEO,  MY HOUSE,  WASILLA                                                                    
(via teleconference),  relayed that she was  the founder and                                                                    
CEO  of  My  House,  a  homeless  youth  drop-in  center  in                                                                    
Wasilla. Her organization  offered wraparound services, case                                                                    
management,  transitional housing,  and job  training, along                                                                    
with a human trafficking  awareness and service program. She                                                                    
shared that there  were programs in Alaska  designed to help                                                                    
young   people   escape    human   trafficking,   with   her                                                                    
organization working  specifically with  clients aged  14 to                                                                    
26. She explained  that while only 3 percent  of new clients                                                                    
initially  reported being  trafficked, the  figure increased                                                                    
to approximately 13 percent as  clients engaged further with                                                                    
the services. She mentioned that  in February of 2023, seven                                                                    
new intakes  occurred, and  among them,  two-thirds reported                                                                    
experiencing trafficking.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Overstreet was  in support  of HB  68 because  it would                                                                    
increase  penalties for  trafficking  and provide  important                                                                    
legal  protections for  trafficking victims.  She emphasized                                                                    
the need for  more legal protections for  young people being                                                                    
groomed and recruited for trafficking,  as well as for those                                                                    
attempting  to escape  it. She  stressed  the importance  of                                                                    
offering  survivors support  tools, such  as expunging  low-                                                                    
level  criminal  records,  job training  to  help  survivors                                                                    
secure  self-sustaining careers,  and expanding  educational                                                                    
curricula to  raise awareness about the  dangers of grooming                                                                    
and safe online practices.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Overstreet relayed  that  she  strongly disagreed  with                                                                    
arguments from individuals in  the prostitution business who                                                                    
opposed HB  68, suggesting that  their ultimate goal  was to                                                                    
legalize  prostitution.  She  argued  that  in  areas  where                                                                    
prostitution  had  been  legalized,  human  trafficking  had                                                                    
increased, and  the bill  was a  necessary step  for Alaska.                                                                    
She  thought that  HB 68  would help  protect Alaska's  most                                                                    
vulnerable  populations by  addressing  serious issues  like                                                                    
child sexual  abuse, sexual assault, domestic  violence, and                                                                    
addiction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STACI   YATES,  DIRECTOR   OF  HUMAN   TRAFFICKING  RECOVERY                                                                    
SERVICES,  MY HOUSE,  WASILLA  (via teleconference),  shared                                                                    
that she was  a survivor of sex trafficking  the Director of                                                                    
Human Trafficking  Recovery Services  at My House.  She also                                                                    
chaired the  Alaska Stop Human Trafficking  Alliance (ASHTA)                                                                    
and  sat  on  the  Governor's   Council  on  Human  and  Sex                                                                    
Trafficking. She  strongly supported HB 68,  emphasizing the                                                                    
bill's importance in protecting  victims' rights. There were                                                                    
alarming statistics about child  abuse and sexual assault in                                                                    
Alaska.  She referenced  a 2019  FBI  Uniform Crime  Report,                                                                    
which  indicated that  Alaska's rate  of sexual  assault was                                                                    
nearly  four times  the national  average, and  child sexual                                                                    
assaults were nearly six times the national average.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Yates shared  that a 2012 World  Development Study found                                                                    
that  countries   that  legalized  prostitution   tended  to                                                                    
experience higher rates of  human trafficking. She explained                                                                    
that  while there  was a  theoretical opposing  effect where                                                                    
demand for trafficked might decrease,  the actual effect was                                                                    
that  legalized   prostitution  expanded   the  prostitution                                                                    
market   and  increased   prostitution.   She  argued   that                                                                    
prostitution was  not a victimless  crime, as  many involved                                                                    
individuals  had  been  sexually  abused  as  children.  She                                                                    
thought that  HB 68  was crucial because  it held  buyers of                                                                    
sex accountable,  especially when they  exploited trafficked                                                                    
individuals or children.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Yates  explained that HB  68 would empower  survivors to                                                                    
testify  against perpetrators  and would  also include  age-                                                                    
appropriate education  on trafficking and online  safety for                                                                    
youth. She stressed that it  was important to teach children                                                                    
early  on  how to  recognize  grooming  tactics and  protect                                                                    
themselves.  The  bill would  also  offer  vital support  to                                                                    
survivors by  expunging their criminal records,  which would                                                                    
help  survivors  regain  access to  employment  and  housing                                                                    
opportunities. She urged support for the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:52:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DELAYNA  WEST, SELF,  HOMER (via  teleconference), expressed                                                                    
her support for HB 68.  She echoed Ms. Yates' sentiments and                                                                    
thought  that  while  the  bill   might  not  be  a  perfect                                                                    
solution,  it was  a crucial  first  step toward  protecting                                                                    
survivors and victims of trafficking.  She argued that HB 68                                                                    
was  a positive  move in  the right  direction. She  relayed                                                                    
that  it  was  important  to  address  the  issue  of  human                                                                    
trafficking in Alaska. She acknowledged  that while it might                                                                    
not  be possible  to  fix  the problem  on  a global  scale,                                                                    
Alaska could  take action to  make a  significant difference                                                                    
for  its women  and  children. She  urged  the committee  to                                                                    
support the bill.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted that there were  some individuals who                                                                    
had  been waiting  to  present fiscal  notes  and there  was                                                                    
interest in  reviewing the sectional  analysis of  the bill.                                                                    
He  proposed beginning  the next  morning's meeting  at 8:30                                                                    
a.m. and not 9:00 a.m.  to accommodate the additional agenda                                                                    
items.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:54:21 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:54:44 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  indicated that the committee  would proceed                                                                    
with the  fiscal notes, ensuring  that those who  had waited                                                                    
for hours would have  their time respected. Public testimony                                                                    
would remain  open in case additional  individuals wished to                                                                    
testify the following morning. The  sectional analysis and a                                                                    
summary of the bill's changes  would also be reviewed in the                                                                    
morning.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:56:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES   STINSON,  DIRECTOR,   OFFICE  OF   PUBLIC  ADVOCACY,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION  (via teleconference), reviewed                                                                    
the   fiscal   impact   note    from   the   Department   of                                                                    
Administration (DOA) with OMB  component 43 and control code                                                                    
vNSYs. He explained that there  were several ways the fiscal                                                                    
note  could  have been  approached,  but  he had  ultimately                                                                    
decided to add a defense  investigator position at a cost of                                                                    
$128,600. He  noted that while  it was difficult  to predict                                                                    
how many cases would come to  the agency, the cases that did                                                                    
would  have   serious  penalties,   requiring  investigative                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked why the OMB  component was                                                                    
the same  as the OMB  component in  the fiscal notes  for HB
11, despite having a different control code.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stinson  responded that  OMB  component  43 was  always                                                                    
attached to fiscal  notes for the Office  of Public Advocacy                                                                    
(OPA) and that he had never seen a different one used.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  why  the department  needed                                                                    
half the amount of money as was  needed for HB 11 when HB 68                                                                    
was much longer.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stinson  responded that there were  multiple crime bills                                                                    
currently circulating and  he was not sure  which ones would                                                                    
pass or  in which order.  He erred on the  conservative side                                                                    
for his estimates  for HB 68 because it seemed  as though HB
11 and  HB 68 were  moving at  a similar pace.  He explained                                                                    
that HB 68 was extensive, but  much of the conduct was often                                                                    
captured by the federal government  and he was uncertain how                                                                    
many  cases the  state would  receive. He  relayed that  the                                                                    
state would need in-house  defense investigator services. He                                                                    
noted that an  agency could quickly become  overwhelmed by a                                                                    
variety of crime bills.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked how many sex  trafficking cases                                                                    
there were in 2024.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stinson  responded that the  question would  probably be                                                                    
better suited  for the  court system,  as it  maintained the                                                                    
total number of  filings in the state. He  explained that he                                                                    
could pull OPA's internal data,  but would need to follow up                                                                    
with  the  information.  He  could   obtain  the  number  of                                                                    
unclassified  felonies  that  had  come to  the  agency  and                                                                    
identify which  of those  were sex  offenses. He  noted that                                                                    
the bill  would involve  creating new conduct  and enhancing                                                                    
penalties, which  contributed to  the concern  regarding the                                                                    
workload of the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  understood that  it was  difficult to                                                                    
assess the impact  without knowing the specifics  of the new                                                                    
crime proposed by  the bill. She asked  if her understanding                                                                    
was correct.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stinson responded in the  affirmative. He explained that                                                                    
it was  unclear how  many of  the offenses  would ultimately                                                                    
reach the  agency, but the  cases that did would  be serious                                                                    
and require a significant amount  of work. He suggested that                                                                    
the court system provide additional insight on the matter.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:01:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  MEADE, GENERAL  COUNSEL, ALASKA  STATE COURT  SYSTEM,                                                                    
stated that  she had data  on the number of  sex trafficking                                                                    
cases,  convictions, and  charges over  the last  ten years.                                                                    
She relayed  that there  had been very  few such  cases. The                                                                    
Federal U.S. Attorney's Office  handled some sex trafficking                                                                    
cases in Alaska,  but the state had  experienced between one                                                                    
and  four cases  per year.  She  pointed out  that in  2017,                                                                    
there had been seven cases,  which were likely the result of                                                                    
a single case with multiple  charges. The range of cases had                                                                    
generally been between one and four each year.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  why it  would be  necessary to                                                                    
add  an entire  defense  investigator position  in order  to                                                                    
implement the  bill considering that  the average  number of                                                                    
cases over the past ten years had been only two per year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stinson explained  that the  issue was  not solely  the                                                                    
number  of  cases but  also  the  existing backlog  and  the                                                                    
ongoing workload.  He emphasized that without  adding fiscal                                                                    
notes to address the anticipated  workload, the agency would                                                                    
quickly become  overwhelmed. Committees  generally preferred                                                                    
to  avoid   indeterminate  fiscal   notes,  as   failing  to                                                                    
appropriately resource the  agency would exacerbate existing                                                                    
challenges.  He  explained  that OPA  operated  as  multiple                                                                    
independent  law  firms  under  one  central  administrative                                                                    
umbrella. There  were some sections  within OPA that  had as                                                                    
few  as two  attorneys, which  further complicated  resource                                                                    
allocation and underscored the  need for additional support.                                                                    
The major  crime unit in  Anchorage was lacking  an in-house                                                                    
investigator and the fiscal note  addressed an existing need                                                                    
that would be exasperated by an additional bill.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  agreed that it  would not be  wise to                                                                    
grow in the area of unfunded mandates.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:04:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRANCE  HAAS,  PUBLIC  DEFENDER, PUBLIC  DEFENDER  AGENCY,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION  (via teleconference), reviewed                                                                    
the fiscal impact note from  DOA with OMB component 1631 and                                                                    
control code QYxCX.  He explained that PDA  was requesting a                                                                    
single staff  position to address the  administrative burden                                                                    
created   by   the  increased   registration   requirements.                                                                    
However, the fiscal note reflected  the realities of several                                                                    
bills that had been considered together.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF  CORPORATIONS, BUSINESS,                                                                    
AND   PROFESSIONAL   LICENSING,  DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,                                                                    
COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC   DEVELOPMENT,  reviewed  the  zero                                                                    
fiscal impact  note was  for OMB  Component number  2360 and                                                                    
control  code MRisl.  She explained  that the  bill required                                                                    
the  board to  deny  a  license, prevent  the  renewal of  a                                                                    
license, and revoke a license  for life for anyone convicted                                                                    
of  certain   crimes,  for  15  licensed   professions.  She                                                                    
anticipated  that the  Division  of Corporations,  Business,                                                                    
and  Professional   Licensing  could  absorb   the  workload                                                                    
created by this bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TERI WEST,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DIRECTOR,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
CORRECTIONS  (via   teleconference),  reviewed   the  fiscal                                                                    
impact  note from  the Department  of  Corrections with  OMB                                                                    
component 1381  and control code  Mhybr. She  explained that                                                                    
the  fiscal   note  submitted  was  indeterminate,   as  the                                                                    
department was  unable to predict  how many people  would be                                                                    
convicted   of  the   offense  or   how   long  the   actual                                                                    
incarceration time would be. The  department would track and                                                                    
monitor  the  impacts  on  population  growth  within  their                                                                    
institutions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:07:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY MANNING,  DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF  INNOVATION AND                                                                    
EDUCATION  EXCELLENCE,  DEPARTMENT  OF EDUCATION  and  EARLY                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT (via teleconference),  stated that Department of                                                                    
Education  and  Early  Development (DEED)  had  submitted  a                                                                    
fiscal  impact note  with control  code SuqIJ  that included                                                                    
costs for  year one and  out-year costs associated  with the                                                                    
development  of   curriculum  related   to  human   and  sex                                                                    
trafficking. She  specified that the  year one cost  for the                                                                    
fiscal  note  was  $66,000,  which would  be  used  for  the                                                                    
development of the  course. There would be a  number of one-                                                                    
time costs  associated with the  development of  the course,                                                                    
such  as  working with  stakeholders  to  engage in  content                                                                    
development  and collaborating  with the  e-learning content                                                                    
provider   to  integrate   the   course   content  into   an                                                                    
appropriate  e-learning  delivery  model  for  the  learning                                                                    
management  system.  She  specified that  $25,000  had  been                                                                    
allocated  for the  process,  as well  as  stipends for  the                                                                    
participants involved  in the development. There  would also                                                                    
be  an estimated  $6,000 in  legal costs  to update  teacher                                                                    
certification  requirements. The  educational content  would                                                                    
be  loaded  onto the  e-learning  platform  in two  delivery                                                                    
methods:  one for  educators and  one  designed for  student                                                                    
safety that educators could use  to teach students. She also                                                                    
mentioned  that  $5,000  per year  would  be  allocated  for                                                                    
course  updates, as  the department  regularly reviewed  and                                                                    
updated  its  e-learning  content   to  ensure  it  remained                                                                    
current and relevant.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted that the fiscal  note corresponded to                                                                    
OMB component  2796. He  relayed that  the next  fiscal note                                                                    
was meant  to be presented  by Ms.  Deb Riddle, but  she was                                                                    
not  available. The  committee would  return  to the  fiscal                                                                    
note the following morning.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:10:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kemp relayed  that DOL had submitted a  zero fiscal note                                                                    
for  OMB  component  2202  with   control  code  hqUCq.  The                                                                    
department could absorb the litigation  without the need for                                                                    
additional positions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  if the  department anticipated                                                                    
more  cases,  given the  impact  on  other departments,  and                                                                    
wondered whether  it was  feasible for  DOL to  absorb these                                                                    
potential cases.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kemp  responded that the  department's zero  fiscal note                                                                    
was  consistent with  the  court  system's description.  She                                                                    
explained  that  the  number of  sex  trafficking  or  human                                                                    
trafficking cases  referred to  DOL in  the past  four years                                                                    
had been low,  with only 10 cases in total  according to the                                                                    
case management  system. She clarified that  sex trafficking                                                                    
was  not  a  commonly  charged statute  and  the  department                                                                    
believed   it  could   absorb   any  additional   litigation                                                                    
resulting  from the  bill. She  offered  assurance that  the                                                                    
department would continue to assess the situation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  understood   that  some  departments                                                                    
anticipated an increase in cases,  while others did not. She                                                                    
asked if the term  "indeterminate" might better describe the                                                                    
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kemp  responded  in  the  affirmative.  The  department                                                                    
thought that  it presently could absorb  the litigation. She                                                                    
explained  that any  case that  entered the  system required                                                                    
DOL's involvement, but based on  the numbers, the department                                                                    
felt confident in its ability  to manage the cases. She also                                                                    
noted that  while the case numbers  reflected referrals, the                                                                    
court  system's  numbers  only   included  cases  that  were                                                                    
formally charged, which meant  there might be referrals that                                                                    
were  never   formally  charged   but  still   required  the                                                                    
department's review.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:12:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Purinton stated  that the  Department of  Public Safety                                                                    
(DPS) had three  fiscal notes. The first was  related to OMB                                                                    
component 3200  with control code  pGFih and would  fund the                                                                    
Criminal Justice Information  Systems Program. She explained                                                                    
that  the  program  was within  the  Division  of  Statewide                                                                    
Services   and   managed   the  state's   criminal   history                                                                    
repository.  She  relayed that  a  key  aspect of  the  bill                                                                    
included  the option  for a  "vacation  of judgment,"  which                                                                    
would  allow   individuals  to  have   certain  prostitution                                                                    
charges withheld from being  displayed on certain background                                                                    
checks.  In  order  to implement  the  change,  the  state's                                                                    
repository  would need  to be  reprogrammed as  it currently                                                                    
operated  on a  legacy mainframe  system. As  a result,  DPS                                                                    
would need to contract  the work to specialized contractors.                                                                    
The one-time cost for reprogramming  would be $42,000, based                                                                    
on  the department's  prior  experience  in contracting  for                                                                    
similar changes to the mainframe.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Purinton continued that the  second fiscal note, for OMB                                                                    
component 521 with control code  pHrKv, related to the CDVSA                                                                    
and was  a zero fiscal  impact note. The department  did not                                                                    
expect the  bill to have  any significant impact  on CDVSA's                                                                    
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Purinton  relayed that  the third  fiscal note,  for OMB                                                                    
Component  2744  with control  code  TYvwB,  related to  the                                                                    
Alaska   State   Troopers   and   the   Alaska   Bureau   of                                                                    
Investigation.   The  department   did   not  anticipate   a                                                                    
significant  fiscal   impact  from  the  bill   and  it  was                                                                    
confident  that it  could absorb  any additional  costs with                                                                    
existing resources.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:15:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meade  reviewed the  fiscal note  from the  Alaska Court                                                                    
System for  OMB component  768 and  control code  psCmq. The                                                                    
provisions of  the bill related  to enhanced crimes  and the                                                                    
reclassification of sex trafficking  crimes would not have a                                                                    
significant fiscal impact on the  court system as the number                                                                    
of cases were not expected to  rise due to the provisions in                                                                    
the bill. However,  the provision that would  allow a person                                                                    
with  an existing  conviction for  prostitution  to seek  to                                                                    
vacate  the conviction  if  the  individual could  establish                                                                    
that they had been a victim  of sex trafficking would have a                                                                    
fiscal  impact. She  explained that  the court  system would                                                                    
need to hire a temporary  four-month attorney for a one-year                                                                    
cost of  $37,700 in  FY 25 to  implement the  procedure. The                                                                    
attorney would  be responsible for developing  forms related                                                                    
to the new procedure  and possibly handling hearings related                                                                    
to the cases.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  that  there  was  one  fiscal  note                                                                    
remaining which  would be covered in  the following morning.                                                                    
He reiterated  that public testimony  would remain  open and                                                                    
the  committee  would  address  both  the  fiscal  note  and                                                                    
questions tomorrow.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB  68  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  reminded the  committee that  the amendment                                                                    
deadline was  tentatively set  for Friday,  May 3,  2024, at                                                                    
5:00  p.m.  He intended  to  recess  the meeting  until  the                                                                    
morning.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[The meeting reconvened at 8:32 a.m. on May 4, 2025.]                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 11 Assault in the Presence of a Child Presentation.pptx HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 11
HB 11 Alaska Family Services Letter of Support.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 11
HB 11 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 11
HB 11 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 11
HB 11 WISH Letter of Support.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 11
HB 68 Sex and Human Trafficking Sectional 5.3.23.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 68
HB 68 Transmittal Letter.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 68
HB 68 Summary of Changes 5.5.23.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 68
HB068 - Public Testimony Letters of Support (submitted 03-23-23).pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 68
HB068 -Public Testimony Letters of Opposition (submitted 03-23-23).pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 68
HB 259 Public Testimony Rec'd by 042924.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 259
HB 68 Public Testimony Rec'd by 042924.pdf HFIN 4/30/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 68