Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

02/05/2025 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

Note: the audio and video recordings are distinct records and are obtained from different sources. As such there may be key differences between the two. The audio recordings are captured by our records offices as the official record of the meeting and will have more accurate timestamps. Use the icons to switch between them.

Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

Audio Topic
01:02:07 PM Start
01:02:43 PM HB62
01:48:39 PM Presentation(s): Therapeutic Court
02:35:00 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 62 SEXUAL ASSAULT EXAMINATION KITS/TRACKING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Presentation: HB 62 by Commissioner James TELECONFERENCED
Cockrell; and David Kanaris, Chief of the
Scientific Crime Detection Laboratory, Department
of Public Safety
+ Presentation: Therapeutic Court by Therapeutic TELECONFERENCED
Court Coordinator
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
        HB  62-SEXUAL ASSAULT EXAMINATION KITS/TRACKING                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:02:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY  announced that the  first order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL   NO.  62,  "An   Act  relating  to   sexual  assault                                                               
examination  kits; establishing  the  sexual assault  examination                                                               
kit tracking system; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:03:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  COCKRELL,   Commissioner,  Office  of   the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department of Public  Safety (DPS), presented HB 62  on behalf of                                                               
the House  Rules Standing  Committee, sponsor  by request  of the                                                               
governor.   He  said the  state has  come a  long way  in how  it                                                               
handles  sexual  assault  investigations and  examines  evidence.                                                               
The goal of the bill is  to track sexual assault examination kits                                                               
and implement  a 14-day timeline  for health care providers.   It                                                               
would also shorten the timeline  for law enforcement from 30 days                                                               
to 20 days.  In addition,  the bill would notify individuals when                                                               
their  sexual  assault examination  kits  were  processed in  the                                                               
state  crime lab.   He  noted  that HB  62 is  a continuation  of                                                               
legislation that was vetted during the last legislative session.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  KANARIS,  Chief,  Scientific Crime  Detection  Laboratory,                                                               
Department of Public  Safety (DPS), on behalf of  the House Rules                                                               
Standing  Committee,   sponsor  by   request  of   the  governor,                                                               
presented  the sectional  analysis  for HB  62  [included in  the                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                                  
     Amends   AS   12.61.010   Rights  of   crime   victims,                                                                    
     subsection  (a) to  add paragraph  (16) to  include the                                                                    
     right to be notified of  location and testing date of a                                                                    
     sexual assault  examination kit that is  collected from                                                                    
     the victim.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2                                                                                                                  
     Amends AS 44.41.065 Sexual examination kits subsection                                                                     
     (a) to require that within 14 days after gathering the                                                                     
     evidence,  health  care   providers  shall  notify  the                                                                    
     appropriate  law  enforcement  agency that  the  sexual                                                                    
     assault examination kit  is available to be  sent to an                                                                    
     accredited   laboratory   in  coordination   with   the                                                                    
     Department  of Public  Safety. Previously  this section                                                                    
     was only applicable to law enforcement agencies.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Requires that  a law enforcement  agency must  send the                                                                    
     kit  identified  by the  health  care  provider in  the                                                                    
     scenario   above   must   send   the   sexual   assault                                                                    
     examination   kit  to   an  accredited   laboratory  in                                                                    
     coordination with the Department of Public Safety.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Requires  that  within  120  days   of  when  a  sexual                                                                    
     examination kit is received by  the laboratory to which                                                                    
     it is sent, the sexual  assault examination kit must be                                                                    
     tested within 120 days.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Clarifies  that  if the  case  is  resolved before  the                                                                    
     sexual  assault examination  kit  is  tested, then  the                                                                    
     health  care  provider,   law  enforcement  agency,  or                                                                    
     laboratory   in  possession   of  the   sexual  assault                                                                    
     examination  kit  is  not required  to  meet  the  time                                                                    
     limits established in (a) of this section.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3  Amends AS 44.41.065 Sexual  examination kits                                                                    
     to add subsection (e), which  clarifies that the sexual                                                                    
     assault  examination kit  information  must be  entered                                                                    
     into the tracking system  established by the Department                                                                    
     of Public Safety.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4  Amends AS 44.41 Department  of Public Safety                                                                    
     to  add  a new  section,  AS  44.41.067 Sexual  assault                                                                    
     examination   kit   tracking   system.   Requires   the                                                                    
     Department of  Public Safety to  develop and  operate a                                                                    
     sexual  assault examination  tracking  system to  track                                                                    
     status  and location  of a  sexual assault  examination                                                                    
     kit from  the point of evidence  collection to testing.                                                                    
     Requires  that  the   sexual  assault  examination  kit                                                                    
     tracking system allow the victim  to access and, if the                                                                    
     victim chooses,  to receive automated  notifications of                                                                    
     the status of  the kit and when a kit  has been tested.                                                                    
     Establishes   the   sexual  assault   examination   kit                                                                    
     tracking  system as  confidential  and  not subject  to                                                                    
     public records,  except that  the Department  of Public                                                                    
     Safety may  use the  information to provide  the report                                                                    
     required  by AS  44.41.070  Report  on untested  sexual                                                                    
     assault examination kits.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5  Repeals  AS 44.41.070  Report  on  untested                                                                    
     sexual   assault  examination   kits  subsection   (a).                                                                    
     Section 6  Adds uncodified law to  allow the Department                                                                    
     of Public  Safety to  establish regulations.  Section 7                                                                    
     Provides an  immediate effective date for  Section 6 of                                                                    
     the bill.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:10:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS presented  a PowerPoint on HB 62  [hard copy included                                                               
in   the  committee   packet],   beginning  on   slide  2,   "Key                                                               
Provisions,"   which  read   as  follows   [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Timelines  for  transmittal   and  testing  of  Sexual                                                                    
     Assault Kits                                                                                                               
      Codifying the Sexual Assault Kit Tracking System                                                                          
      Survivor Rights and Transparency                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS continued to slide 3, "Time Processing of Kits,"                                                                    
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      Medical providers  must notify law  enforcement within                                                                    
     14 days after evidence collection                                                                                          
      New Requirement                                                                                                           
      Law enforcement  must transfer  kits to  an accredited                                                                    
     laboratory within 20 days                                                                                                  
      Currently 30 days                                                                                                         
      Laboratory must complete testing within 120 days                                                                          
      Currently 180 days                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS turned to slide 4, "Survivor Rights and                                                                             
Transparency," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                      
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Survivors must be notified when their kits are tested                                                                     
      The   tracking  system   enables  survivors   to  stay                                                                    
     informed   and   connected   to  their   case   without                                                                    
     compromising  their  privacy  or needing  to  re-engage                                                                    
     with law enforcement                                                                                                       
      The system ensures survivors  can securely monitor the                                                                    
     status of their kits and opt-in for automated updates                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS  proceeded to  slide 5,  "Codification of  the Sexual                                                               
Assault  Kit Tracking  System," which  read as  follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      Sexual assault examination kit tracking system will                                                                       
     be operated by the Department of Public Safety                                                                             
     Data remains confidential to protect survivor privacy                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KANARIS described  two photos  on  slide 6  that showed  the                                                               
crime lab's long-term storage room  where all the kits are stored                                                               
in perpetuity.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:15:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY referred  to subsection (c) beginning on  page 4, line                                                               
30 of the  bill, and asked what happens to  the kits when charges                                                               
are dropped, or the case is resolved.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS said all kits are saved in perpetuity.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY  inquired about the  tracking system and  whether it's                                                               
currently being used.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS  responded yes, the  tracking system was  deployed in                                                               
2023  and is  currently  used by  law  enforcement agencies,  the                                                               
crime lab, and medical providers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY concluded  that  the bill  seeks  to codify  existing                                                               
practices into law.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS answered yes, in  addition to establishing turnaround                                                               
times to  ensure that the  kits are  moved through the  system as                                                               
quickly as possible.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:17:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COSTELLO asked  what processes  occur during  the                                                               
department's 20-day timeframe.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER COCKRELL  said the  kits are  stored in  an evidence                                                               
locker until they are sent to the lab.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COSTELLO  asked  whether   there  is  a  plan  to                                                               
communicate the  proposed deadline with medical  providers if the                                                               
bill were to pass.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS said yes, the crime  lab has a training position that                                                               
works exclusively on the kit tracking  system.  It would be their                                                               
job [to train the medical providers].                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:20:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  UNDERWOOD asked  whether 120  days is  a national                                                               
standard and whether that timeframe could be shortened.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KANARIS explained  that  on  average, it  takes  5 weeks  to                                                               
process  DNA through  the  system with  the  crime lab's  current                                                               
technology.    He  acknowledged the  importance  of  striving  to                                                               
improve the  turnaround time and  speculated that 90 days  may be                                                               
realistic in the future.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE UNDERWOOD  asked whether there was  any opposition                                                               
to the bill last year.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KANARIS  recalled  that  medical  providers  expressed  some                                                               
concern about the 7-day turnaround time.   He opined that with an                                                               
average turnaround  time of 8  days, a 14-day turnaround  time is                                                               
realistic for everyone.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:23:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  asked how training would  be administered to                                                               
ensure that this plan is followed and enforced.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  COCKRELL  reiterated  that  the  crime  lab  has  a                                                               
position that's  specifically dedicated to training.   He assured                                                               
Representative  Kopp that  law enforcement  would follow  the law                                                               
and that the deadlines would be met.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:25:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EISCHEID shared  that  public safety  is of  huge                                                               
importance to his constituents.  He  asked for a brief history of                                                               
the backlog in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KANARIS  explained  that  around 2015,  DPS  applied  for  a                                                               
federal  grant  to  investigate the  backlog  of  500-600  sexual                                                               
assault kits that had not been  tested.  By 2018, all outstanding                                                               
kits  had been  tested  under  the grant.    In  2018, a  capital                                                               
appropriation of $2.75 million was  awarded by the legislature to                                                               
audit the evidence  rooms of law enforcement  agencies across the                                                               
state for  untested sexual  assault kits.   This  audit uncovered                                                               
2,500 additional  kits that were  subsequently sent out  of state                                                               
for testing  and entered  into Alaska's DNA  database.   He added                                                               
that currently, the lab receives  around 600 sexual assault cases                                                               
per year.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:28:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  UNDERWOOD  inquired  about the  proper  chain  of                                                               
custody for sexual assault kits.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KANARIS  said  medical providers  are  not  responsible  for                                                               
maintaining  a  legal chain  of  custody.    The lab's  chain  of                                                               
custody is kept in the  lab information management system and law                                                               
enforcement's  chain  of  custody  is maintained  in  its  record                                                               
management system.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  UNDERWOOD   asked  whether   the  kit   could  be                                                               
disqualified from court for any reason.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KANARIS answered no.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  confirmed that  the custody log  is attached                                                               
to  the kit  at  all times  and  must be  signed  for at  various                                                               
intervals.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GRAY   asked  what  causes  the   delay  between  evidence                                                               
collection and law enforcement taking custody.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KANARIS  described  several   factors  that  may  delay  the                                                               
process, including  a peer review  of the paperwork  and staffing                                                               
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:32:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA asked whether  there had been more engagement                                                               
with medical providers since the previous iteration of the bill.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   COCKRELL   responded   that  the   department   is                                                               
comfortable with  the 14-day  timeline and  has not  received any                                                               
additional feedback from medical providers.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY opened public testimony on HB 62.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAUREE  MORTON,  Deputy  Director,  Alaska  Network  on  Domestic                                                               
Violence and Sexual  Assault (ANDVA), testified in  support of HB
62.  She  described the history of sexual assault  kits in Alaska                                                               
and  asked whether  the  state is  doing  everything possible  to                                                               
ensure that  victims are  treated with  dignity and  respect; are                                                               
able to  make choose how and  when to interact with  the criminal                                                               
justice system;  and have  access to  support.   Streamlining the                                                               
timeline  and  establishing  a  kit  tracking  system  are  great                                                               
strides forward, she said.   She urged favorable consideration of                                                               
HB 62.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:37:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEGAN  EDGE,   Alaska  Prison  Project  Director,   Alaska  Civil                                                               
Liberties Union (ACLU), testified in support  of HB 62.  She said                                                               
the bill  would take steps  to ensure that  kits are tested  in a                                                               
timely  fashion  and that  victims  are  better informed  of  the                                                               
process, thereby improving access to  justice for survivors.  She                                                               
shared her  personal history and  explained why she chose  not to                                                               
come  forward  to law  enforcement.    She  said the  bill  would                                                               
increase confidence that  kits are handled in  an expeditious and                                                               
transparent way and  ensure that Alaska is  upholding its promise                                                               
to a safe, fair, and balanced legal system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:41:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRA  HENRY, Forensic  Nurse Practitioner,  Friends of  Nursing,                                                               
testified  in  support  of  HB  62.    She  shared  her  personal                                                               
experience as a  forensic nurse and said  with the implementation                                                               
of  tracking, patients  would  have the  ability  to monitor  the                                                               
status of their  sexual assault kit.  She spoke  favorably of the                                                               
medical facilities'  14-day timeframe  and urged members  to pass                                                               
HB 62, as written.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:45:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:45 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:45:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GRAY announced that public testimony would be left open.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[HB 62 was held over].                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB0062A.pdf HJUD 2/5/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 62
HB 62 Sectional Analysis Version 34-GH1317 A.pdf HJUD 2/5/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 62
0317-DPS-SSA-01-21-25.pdf HJUD 2/5/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 62
HB 62 Transmittal Letter.pdf HJUD 2/5/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 62
HJUD Therapeutic Court Presentation.pdf HJUD 2/5/2025 1:00:00 PM
Therapeutic Court Presentation
Summary of TC 2-3-25.pdf HJUD 2/5/2025 1:00:00 PM
Therapeutic Court Presentation