Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

04/18/2023 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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03:04:20 PM Start
03:05:06 PM Confirmation Hearing(s):|| State Board of Parole|| Department of Corrections, Commissioner
03:59:31 PM HB61
04:18:21 PM HB116
04:59:51 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 116 RESTORATIVE JUSTICE ACCT APPROPRIATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 61 LIMITATIONS ON FIREARMS RESTRICTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 61(STA) Out of Committee
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Department of Corrections - Commissioner Jen
Winkelman; State Board of Parole - Sarah Possenti
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
          HB  61-LIMITATIONS ON FIREARMS RESTRICTIONS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:59:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  61, "An Act relating to  restrictions on firearms                                                               
and other weapons."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:00:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:01:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  moved  to  adopt Amendment  1  to  HB  61,                                                               
labeled 33-LS0333\A.4, Radford, 4/17/23, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 9, following "to":                                                                                            
          Insert "(1)"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 12, following "law":                                                                                          
          Insert ";                                                                                                             
               (2)  an order, proclamation, regulation,                                                                         
     ordinance, or policy                                                                                                       
               (A)  forbidding the possession of a firearm,                                                                     
      a firearm accessory, ammunition, or other weapon for                                                                      
     personal use at an emergency shelter; or                                                                                   
               (B)  ordering the seizure or confiscation of                                                                     
      a firearm, a firearm accessory, ammunition, or other                                                                      
       weapon for personal use that a person possesses or                                                                       
     attempts to possess at an emergency shelter"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  explained  that Amendment  1  would  allow                                                               
authorities to  restrict the possession of  firearms in emergency                                                               
shelters   during   a   disaster  declaration,   thus   providing                                                               
authorities with the flexibility  to assess situations and retain                                                               
order and safety in communal living spaces.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER   objected  to  the  motion   to  adopt                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Armstrong and Story                                                               
voted in  favor of  Amendment 1.   Representatives  Carpenter, C.                                                               
Johnson, Allard, Wright,  and Shaw voted against  it.  Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 2-5.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:03:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:03 p.m. to 4:04 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  moved  to  adopt Amendment  2  to  HB  61,                                                               
labeled 33-LS0333\A.3, Radford, 4/17/23, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 13 - 25:                                                                                                     
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON objected.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:04:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY explained that  Amendment 2 would delete the                                                               
language on  page 2,  lines 13-25, as  this language  would allow                                                               
people to bring  civil action against a government  agency or law                                                               
enforcement.  She opined that  this would encourage people to sue                                                               
the state government without resulting in injunctive relief.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:05:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C.  JOHNSON asked  the  bill  sponsor to  discuss                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CATHY  TILTON,  Alaska State  Legislature,  prime                                                               
sponsor  of  HB 61,  referenced  a  memo from  Legislative  Legal                                                               
Services [included in the committee  packet], which addressed the                                                               
concern  about  injunctive relief  versus  treble  damages.   She                                                               
deferred to her staff.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  ST.  CLAIR,  Staff, Representative  Cathy  Tilton,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, on  behalf  of  Representative Tilton,  prime                                                               
sponsor, stated  that this is  an existing practice in  state and                                                               
federal law.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:06:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY, referencing  the  legal  memo, shared  her                                                               
understanding that treble damages  are authorized in 14 different                                                               
statutes,  whereas  injunctive  relief   appears  in  the  Alaska                                                               
Statutes  46   times.    She  requested   a  representative  from                                                               
Legislative  Legal Services  to  answer the  question of  whether                                                               
injunctive relief would be more appropriate.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHAW  said no  one  from  Legislative Legal  Services  was                                                               
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:07:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE C.  JOHNSON maintained his objection  to Amendment                                                               
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:07:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Armstrong and Story                                                               
voted  in   favor  of  Amendment  2.     Representatives  Wright,                                                               
Carpenter,  C.  Johnson,  Allard,  and  Shaw  voted  against  it.                                                               
Therefore, Amendment 2 failed by a vote of 2-5.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:08:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT  moved to  adopt  Amendment  3 to  HB  61,                                                               
labeled 33-LS0333\A.1, Radford, 4/13/23, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 8, following "firearm,":                                                                                      
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 10, following "firearm,":                                                                                     
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 13, following "firearms,":                                                                                    
          Insert "firearm parts,"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 2, following "firearms,":                                                                                     
          Insert "firearm parts,"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 9, following "firearm,":                                                                                      
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 11, following "firearm,":                                                                                     
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 15, following "firearm,":                                                                                     
          Insert "a firearm part,"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 1, following "illumination":                                                                                  
          Insert ";                                                                                                             
               (3)  "firearm part" means a component of a                                                                       
      firearm that is essential to the basic function of a                                                                      
      firearm, including a component of an action or lock,                                                                      
     the stock, and the barrel"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER objected.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:08:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WRIGHT explained  that Amendment  3 would  insert                                                               
"firearm  part"  in the  associated  definition  in the  proposed                                                               
legislation.  He  explained that firearm parts  would be required                                                               
for the proper function of a firearm.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C. JOHNSON  asked  whether the  bill sponsor  was                                                               
supportive of Amendment 3.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TILTON  expressed   support  for   the  proposed                                                               
amendment, as  firearm parts would  be necessary  for subsistence                                                               
hunting, as well as for self-protection.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE C. JOHNSON removed his  objection.  There being no                                                               
further objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:09:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT moved  to report HB 61, as  amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:10:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:10:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY spoke  to her  objection, opining  that law                                                               
enforcement needs  to be able  to restrict firearm  possession in                                                               
certain situations, such as emergency shelters.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:11:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken.   Representatives Wright, Carpenter,                                                               
C. Johnson, Allard,  and Shaw voted in favor of  reporting HB 61,                                                               
as  amended,  out  of  committee.     Representatives  Story  and                                                               
Armstrong  voted  against  it.     Therefore,  CSHB  61(STA)  was                                                               
reported out of  the House State Affairs Standing  Committee by a                                                               
vote of 5-2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:12:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW  noted that Legislative Legal  Services was authorized                                                               
to make  any necessary technical  and conforming changes  to CSHB
61(STA).                                                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Jennifer Winkelman Resume_Redacted.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
Confirmation: Winkelman, Jennifer - Dept of Corrections Commissioner
3.1.23 Sarah Possenti Parole Resume_Redacted.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
Confirmation: Possenti, Sarah -- State Parole Board
HB 61 - Emailed Public Comment - As of 04-17 - Oppose.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 61 - Emailed Public Comment - As of 04-17 - Support.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 116 Sponsor Statement v.1.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 Sectional Analysis V.1.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116A.PDF HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 Supporting Document - PPT.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 - Fiscal Note - DPS - 19,334.3.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 116 - Fiscal Note - DOC - 0.0 (Fund Change).pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 116
HB 61 - Amendments - HSTA - Amendment 2 - 33-LS0333-A.3.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 61 - Amendments - HSTA - Amendment 1 - 33-LS0333-A.4.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61
HB 61 - Amendments - HSTA - Amendment 3 - 33-LS0333-A.1.pdf HSTA 4/18/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 61