Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

02/21/2025 09:00 AM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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           HB 60-PROCURE PREF: AGRIC. & FISH PRODUCTS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:01:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 60,  "An Act  relating to municipal  and state                                                               
procurement  preferences for  agricultural products  harvested in                                                               
the state  and fisheries products  harvested or processed  in the                                                               
state; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:01:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:02:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA  LATHAM,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Commerce,                                                               
Community   and   Economic   Development,  began   a   PowerPoint                                                               
presentation [hard copy  included in the committee  packet] on HB
60.   She stated that  HB 60 was  a result of  the administration                                                               
focusing  on food  security in  Alaska.   She explained  that the                                                               
global  pandemic [COVID-19]  triggered  supply chain  disruptions                                                               
across the United  States that impacted the delivery  of food and                                                               
other  essential goods.   She  stated  that Administrative  Order                                                               
(AO)  331,  ordered   in  2022,  was  a  part   of  the  Dunleavy                                                               
Administration's  initiative   to  increase  food   security  and                                                               
agricultural sector  growth.  She  explained that AO  331 created                                                               
the  Alaska  Food  Security  and  Independence  Taskforce.    She                                                               
reported  that  the  recommendations of  the  taskforce  included                                                               
increasing  the procurement  and use  of Alaska-sourced  foods in                                                               
state &  local agencies, institutions,  and schools.   She stated                                                               
that she had met with growers  and processers who reported a need                                                               
to enter  commercial markets.   Additionally, she stated  that HB
60 aligns with  AO 136, the directive from  the administration to                                                               
create a Department of Agriculture.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM   moved  to  slide   2  of  the   PowerPoint,  titled                                                               
"Procurement  Preference:   Agriculture and  Fish Products  House                                                               
Bill 60,"  and gave an  overview of Alaska's  current procurement                                                               
code, which  she noted has been  in place since 1996.   This read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          AS 36.15.050 and AS 29.71.040 require the use of                                                                      
     local agricultural and fisheries products by state                                                                         
     agencies, school districts, and municipalities that                                                                        
     receive state money                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Current statute requires agricultural and                                                                             
     fisheries products harvested in the state:                                                                                 
               Shall be purchased if the product is priced                                                                      
     not more than seven percent above a similar product                                                                        
     harvested outside the state                                                                                                
               May be purchased if the product is priced                                                                        
     not more than 15 percent above a similar product                                                                           
     harvested outside the state                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM  clarified that  HB 60  would impact  only agriculture                                                               
and  fish products;  it would  not  impact timber  or steel,  for                                                               
example.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM moved to slide 3,  and gave an overview of the current                                                               
purchasing process,  which read as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          The  DOA   Office  of  Procurement   and  Property                                                                    
     Management  administers a  statewide  contract with  US                                                                    
     Foods (Mandatory for the  Department of Corrections and                                                                    
     Non-mandatory for all others)                                                                                              
          Local growers  register and indicate  the products                                                                    
     they can provide                                                                                                           
          State  agencies set  up a  corporate account  with                                                                    
     vendor                                                                                                                     
          Once  they've  set  up an  account,  there  is  an                                                                    
     option to select Alaska Grown Products                                                                                     
          These  are  online  mobile  markets  that  display                                                                    
     Alaska products                                                                                                            
          State   buyers   such   as   the   Department   of                                                                    
     Corrections and  AMHS purchase products based  on price                                                                    
     after the application of preferences                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM noted that, upon  checking the US Foods website, there                                                               
are  only two  products available:   potatoes  and lettuce.   She                                                               
further noted that  there are typically very  few Alaska products                                                               
available on  the website.  She  gave a list of  qualified users,                                                               
including  state agencies,  federally  recognized  tribes on  the                                                               
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)  list, the legislative branch, the                                                               
university,  the  court  system, state  boards  and  commissions,                                                               
boroughs,  cities,   and  school  districts.     She  noted  that                                                               
corporate agencies are exempt from  the procurement code, as they                                                               
have their own  procurement code.  She explained  that the intent                                                               
of the  legislation is  to bring awareness  to local  growers and                                                               
fishermen and encourage  them to ramp up production  and become a                                                               
vendor with U.S. Foods.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM  moved to  slide  4,  and  gave  an overview  of  the                                                               
proposed changes  under HB  60, which  read as  follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Increases allowable price  differentials for state                                                                    
     agencies,  school  districts,   and  municipalities  to                                                                    
     purchase  more   Alaskan  agricultural   and  fisheries                                                                    
     products                                                                                                                   
          Changes  the   purchase  price   differential  for                                                                    
     required in-state  purchases from seven percent  to ten                                                                    
     percent                                                                                                                    
          Changes  the   purchase  price   differential  for                                                                    
     permissible in-state  purchases from  15 percent  to 25                                                                    
     percent                                                                                                                    
          Incentivizes   more  production   of  Alaska-grown                                                                    
     agricultural   and   Alaska   fisheries   products   by                                                                    
     providing access to institutional markets                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM added  that Alaska producers have  cited cost barriers                                                               
to institutional markets.   She further noted  that the 3-percent                                                               
increase for  required in-state  purchases was  done so  to avoid                                                               
adverse effects on school districts and municipalities.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM,  moved  to  slide   5,  drawing  committee  members'                                                               
attention to  the table chart,  which is representative  of state                                                               
agencies'  procurement of  Alaska grown  versus non-Alaska  grown                                                               
food products.   She  noted that  the State  of Alaska  spent $17                                                               
million on food  products, with roughly $200,000  spent on Alaska                                                               
grown products.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:08:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM   MAYER,    Chief   Procurement   Officer,    Department   of                                                               
Administration,    clarified   that    the   $17    million   was                                                               
representative of  all food  products purchased  by the  State of                                                               
Alaska through the U.S. Foods  contract, not just the agriculture                                                               
and fish products.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:08:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM remarked  that there is a lot of  room for improvement                                                               
in Alaska  grown markets,  noting that  the percentage  of Alaska                                                               
grown purchases was 0.014 percent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:08:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL invited questions from committee members.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:08:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE queried  the price  differential between                                                               
15 and  25 percent.   She  used potatoes  as an  example, seeking                                                               
clarification  that an  Alaska agency  could  choose to  purchase                                                               
potatoes grown  in state  that are  not necessarily  the cheapest                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM confirmed that, under  HB 60, if Alaska grown potatoes                                                               
are  within  10  percent  of  non-Alaska  grown  potatoes,  state                                                               
agencies  under  the  jurisdiction of  the  proposed  legislation                                                               
would   be   required   to    purchase   the   Alaska   potatoes.                                                               
Additionally, she  explained that  state agencies are  allowed to                                                               
purchase Alaska  grown potatoes up  to 25 percent  more expensive                                                               
than non-Alaska grown potatoes,  allowing more money to circulate                                                               
in state.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  stated  that ultimately,  HB  60  could                                                               
increase  food   costs  for  the  agencies   under  the  proposed                                                               
legislation's  jurisdiction.   She  asked  if  agencies would  be                                                               
required  to purchase  Alaska grown  products under  the proposed                                                               
legislation or if they could opt out.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM responded  that agencies  must  buy what's  available                                                               
through  the U.S.  Food  contracts.   Further,  she stated  that,                                                               
under HB  60, if Alaska  products are  within 10 percent  of non-                                                               
Alaska products, the  agencies would be required  to purchase the                                                               
Alaska  products.    She  reiterated  that  [agencies]  would  be                                                               
permitted  to  spend  up  to  25 percent  more  on  Alaska  grown                                                               
products over non-Alaska grown products.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:10:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  queried  the  strength  of  the  current                                                               
mandate to purchase Alaska grown products.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAYER responded  that he is not  sure that there is  a way to                                                               
measure that.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  further queried the  potential additional                                                               
costs of the proposed legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAYER, referring  to  the  table chart  on  slide  5 of  the                                                               
PowerPoint  presentation,  noted  that   the  largest  buyers  of                                                               
Alaska-grown products  were the  Department of  Corrections (DOC)                                                               
and  the   Department  of   Commerce,  Community,   and  Economic                                                               
Development-Alaska Seafood Marketing  Institute (DCCED-ASMI).  He                                                               
stated  that ASMI  bought mostly  canned seafood  for conventions                                                               
and  the DOC  purchases were  for incarcerated  individuals.   He                                                               
estimated an additional cost of roughly $7,000.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  questioned why the purchases  of ASMI and                                                               
DOC were so close in number, $117,667 and $117,643 respectively.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAYER responded that it was serendipitous.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:12:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS asked  whether DOC  had contemplated  purchasing                                                               
more seafood.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM stated  [DCCED] had  not had  conversations with  DOC                                                               
about inmates' meals.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  offered interest in stronger  language mandating                                                               
[DOC] purchase  Alaska seafood.   Additionally, he  asked whether                                                               
DOC had considered growing food;  he noted the department owns "a                                                               
lot of land."   Further, he asked whether  [DOC] had contemplated                                                               
long-term  purchase agreements  with  farmers  of greater  scale,                                                               
"given the size of DOC's purchasing power."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM  stated that  she would follow  up with  the committee                                                               
regarding DOC.  She offered her  belief that DOC has capacity for                                                               
processing food,  but she  was unsure of  DOC's capacity  to grow                                                               
food.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:14:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BURKE  shared concerns  that  there  would be  an                                                               
increased  cost  to  school   districts,  particularly  in  rural                                                               
Alaska.  She  queried the additional cost of freight.   She asked                                                               
the reason  behind the low procurement  of Alaska-grown products,                                                               
referencing the table  chart on slide 5, and pondered  if the low                                                               
purchasing was due to limited  products.  She further queried how                                                               
long the vendors have been on U.S. Foods.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM replied  that she  found a  study between  the Alaska                                                               
Farm Bureau  and the  University of  Alaska Fairbanks  (UAF) that                                                               
concluded  that  buying  in-state  could decrease  costs  due  to                                                               
decreased food waste.   She stated she would follow  up with that                                                               
information for the committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:16:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAYER responded that the  statutes for the U.S. Foods program                                                               
contracts have  been in place since  1988.  He admitted  that the                                                               
proposed  legislation  would  increase   costs  but  stated  that                                                               
purchasing Alaska grown products  is already mandatory for school                                                               
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:17:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  offered her  appreciation for  the intent                                                               
of  the proposed  legislation.   She questioned  whether a  [10]-                                                               
percent  differential was  large  enough  for rural  communities.                                                               
She further queried the cost  difference of Alaska-grown potatoes                                                               
in Utqiagvik,  for example, versus "produced  out-of-state."  She                                                               
additionally asked about regional price differences.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:18:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM clarified  the proposed  legislation would  be a  10-                                                               
percent differential,  from 15  to 25 percent.   She  stated that                                                               
she would follow up with the  committee on average prices and the                                                               
costs of shipping.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:18:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER   stated   that   he   supports   Alaska                                                               
agriculture.    He  wondered whether  the  change  in  percentage                                                               
proposed  by  HB  60  would  be  effective.    He  queried  other                                                               
structural impediments in the uptake of Alaska grown products.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LATHAM responded  that  there is  a  balance between  making                                                               
incremental changes and  disrupting the market.   She stated that                                                               
the percentage change was based  both on meetings with the Alaska                                                               
Farm Bureau and recommendations of the taskforce.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAYER offered his belief  that there are capacity limitations                                                               
and storage limitations.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:20:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LATHAM,  in response  to Representative  Coulombe's question,                                                               
stated that  "polisubs" stood for political  subdivisions, in the                                                               
table chart on slide 5.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:20:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL thanked the invited testifiers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL announced that HB 60 was held over.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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HB 99 Supporting Document - FTA Letter 2.20.25.pdf HL&C 2/21/2025 9:00:00 AM
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HB 60 Supporting Document-AML Municipal Impact Statement 2.12.2025.pdf HL&C 2/21/2025 9:00:00 AM
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HB99 Supporting Document-Letter of Support AKBA 2.20.2025.pdf HL&C 2/21/2025 9:00:00 AM
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