Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

03/27/2025 03:15 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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             HB 58-OPA: PUBLIC ADVOCATE APPOINTMENT                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:18:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 58, "An  Act relating to the  office of public                                                               
advocacy; and relating to the public advocate."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:19:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZACH  FIELDS, Alaska  State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented  HB 58.    He  said  that he  introduced  the                                                               
proposed bill when a constituent who  had worked in the Office of                                                               
Public Advocacy  (OPA) explained that  the selection of  the head                                                               
of  OPA is  very  different  from the  selection  process of  the                                                               
Alaska  Public  Defender  Agency (PDA),  despite  having  similar                                                               
functions and  work and  many  of the same types  of legal cases.                                                               
He opined  that work associated  with OPA was even  more complex.                                                               
He said  the bill objective is  to make the selection  process of                                                               
the director  of OPA  analogous to the  selection process  of the                                                               
public defender in  PDA.  He commented that  this probably should                                                               
have been done 40  years ago.  He clarified that  the bill is not                                                               
intended  to  criticize  the  current director  of  OPA  but  was                                                               
intended to create a structural fix to the selection process.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS explained that  OPA was established in 1984                                                               
by  a bill  that was  put forward  by the  governor at  the time.                                                               
This  office  was  established  to  provide  legal  advocacy  and                                                               
guardianship to vulnerable Alaskans.   He said that often PDA and                                                               
OPA are required to hire outside  counsel in cases that involve a                                                               
conflict  of interest.   He  remarked that  OPA provides  crucial                                                               
services  for children,  vulnerable  individuals, and  represents                                                               
clients  in  a variety  of  civil  and  criminal matters.    This                                                               
includes advocacy for  abused and neglected children,  as well as                                                               
protective proceedings  regarding guardianship  for incapacitated                                                               
adults.   He reaffirmed that OPA  plays a role in  these types of                                                               
cases when a public defender can have a conflict of interest.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS reiterated  that  OPA  was established  in                                                               
1984  whereas PDA  was formed  in 1969.   He  explained that  PDA                                                               
provides  constitutionally   mandated  legal   representation  to                                                               
vulnerable  clients, including  legal representation  in criminal                                                               
cases.  When looking  at the work of both OPA  and PDA, the scope                                                               
of OPA's  work is  broader, but both  agencies are  essential for                                                               
providing constitutionally required legal representation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  explained that  both agencies  are similar                                                               
in  that they  are both  government agencies  that provide  legal                                                               
services  under the  Department  of Administration  (DOA).   They                                                               
both  serve vulnerable  Alaskans  and, in  some cases,  represent                                                               
clients  in the  same case.   He  noted that  OPA provides  these                                                               
services  to youth  and elderly  individuals.   However,  despite                                                               
these  similarities,  the  process for  selecting  each  office's                                                               
director differs substantially.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  explained  that the  public  defender  is                                                               
appointed by the  governor from a list of two  or more candidates                                                               
nominated by the Judicial Council.   The prospective appointee is                                                               
subject  to   confirmation  by  members   of  the   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature   and   serves   a   term  of   four   years   before                                                               
reappointment.  He noted that  the governor may remove the public                                                               
defender  at any  time.   In contrast,  the OPA  director, though                                                               
also appointed  by the governor,  is not subject  to confirmation                                                               
or  term limits.   However,  like  the public  defender, the  OPA                                                               
director may be removed at the governor's discretion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS, in  conclusion, said  that the  selection                                                               
processes  for  the  two  agencies  differ,  despite  overlapping                                                               
services provided  by OPA and  PDA.   He reiterated that  the OPA                                                               
arguably has an even broader scope of practice.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK   announced  the  committee  would   hear  invited                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:23:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANT  MCGEE,   Independent  Law  Practice   Professional,  began                                                               
invited testimony in support of HB 58.   He said he was the first                                                               
public  advocate, appointed  in  1984, and  served  at OPA  until                                                               
2003.    He  stated  that the  proposed  legislation  corrects  a                                                               
mistake dating back  to the agency's creation in 1984.   He added                                                               
that  adopting the  same  selection  process as  that  of PDA  is                                                               
appropriate  and expressed  uncertainty  about why  it was  never                                                               
aligned.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCGEE explained that there  were three reasons to accommodate                                                               
the proposed changes  to the appointment process in  OPA.  First,                                                               
it would  address potential conflicts  of interest.   Second, OPA                                                               
can serve as  the entity responsible for  accountability.  Third,                                                               
the   position   does   not  involve   policymaking   or   policy                                                               
implementation.    He  noted   that  OPA's  responsibilities  are                                                               
established by statute in the  U.S. and Alaska Constitutions.  He                                                               
urged   the  committee   to  take   these   three  reasons   into                                                               
consideration when evaluating the proposed legislation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:28:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSANNE  DIPIETRO, Executive  Director, Alaska  Judicial Council,                                                               
Alaska  Court  System,  began  invited  testimony  on  HB  58  by                                                               
explaining that the  council was established in Article  4 of the                                                               
Alaska State  Constitution and its  members include  both lawyers                                                               
and  non-lawyers who  are appointed  without regard  to political                                                               
affiliation since the council is a nonpartisan body.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DIPIETRO  explained that  the  Alaska  Judicial Council  has                                                               
several constitutional and statutory  duties.  She explained that                                                               
one  important duty  would  be the  council's  statutory duty  to                                                               
screen  and  nominate  applicants   to  the  position  of  public                                                               
defender.  She said that  as Representative Fields had mentioned,                                                               
the intent of  the bill is to use the  same nomination procedures                                                               
for OPA as currently conducted with PDA.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DIPIETRO  discussed  the  process  of  nominating  a  public                                                               
defender.   First is the  announcement of a vacancy,  followed by                                                               
solicitations  from   applicants.    She  said   this  is  widely                                                               
publicized; a  letter is sent out  to every lawyer in  the state;                                                               
press  releases are  put out;  and information  is posted  on the                                                               
Alaska Judicial Council's website.  She said that this is a 5-                                                                  
week application process and included  a 27-page application that                                                               
asked  for  previous   employers,  education,  legal  experience,                                                               
trial-practice   experience,  and   any   references  that   were                                                               
previously affiliated  with their work.   They are  also required                                                               
to  provide  waivers  to  allow   the  council  access  to  their                                                               
confidential   personnel  files   and  their   confidential  bar-                                                               
discipline records.   At the  close of this  application process,                                                               
the Alaska  Judicial Council publicizes  the names of  people who                                                               
have applied,  and an electronic  survey is sent to  every member                                                               
of  the  bar  who  may   have  had  direct  experience  with  the                                                               
applicants   to  rate   applicant  qualifications.     She   said                                                               
applicants are  rated on several  qualities that the  council has                                                               
found to be critical to these  types of positions.  These include                                                               
legal  ability, temperament,  impartiality, fairness,  integrity,                                                               
and overall  performance.  The  results of the survey  are posted                                                               
on the council's website for everyone to see.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. DIPIETRO  said that during  the application  process, council                                                               
staff are  investigating all the information  that the applicants                                                               
provided.   Contact  is  made  to each  legal  employer that  the                                                               
person  has   worked  for  and  requests   feedback  about  their                                                               
performance.   The  council also  contacts  references and  other                                                               
people who have  been involved in litigation  with the applicant;                                                               
this could  involve co-counsel,  opposing council,  or even  as a                                                               
judge  in the  case.   These  affiliates are  asked  to answer  a                                                               
questionnaire providing  detailed feedback about  the applicant's                                                               
performance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DIPIETRO said that the  Alaska Judicial Council also conducts                                                               
criminal-records   checks,  credit-history   checks,  and   looks                                                               
through those personnel files and  bar-discipline files, and does                                                               
other  investigations  as  needed.     Importantly,  the  council                                                               
members listen to public comments throughout the process.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. DIPIETRO said that the council  holds a public hearing on the                                                               
applicants and a 45-minute interview  is held for each applicant.                                                               
Following  the   interviews,  the  council  nominates   the  most                                                               
qualified individuals in  the group.  She said  the criteria used                                                               
to  determine "most  qualified" include  professional competence,                                                               
diligence   and  administrative   skills,  integrity,   fairness,                                                               
temperament, judgement, common sense,  legal and life experience,                                                               
commitment, demonstrated  commitment to the public  and community                                                               
service and  a demonstrated commitment  to equal justice  and the                                                               
legal needs of all communities in Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. DIPIETRO  noted that at  least two individuals  are nominated                                                               
for  later confirmation  processes  and only  the most  qualified                                                               
among  the  applicants   were  candidates  following  application                                                               
procedures.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:34:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  said he recalled  a lot of  these details                                                               
from  previous discussions  in the  House Community  and Regional                                                               
Affairs  Standing Committee.   He  asked whether  there were  any                                                               
changes  to   the  proposed  legislation  since   those  previous                                                               
discussions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  responded that  there had been  no changes                                                               
to the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COURTNEY OWEN,  Staff, Representative  Zack Fields,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of Representative Fields,  prime sponsor,                                                               
gave the sectional analysis for  HB 58 [included in the committee                                                               
file], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:  Amends  AS 13.26.750(a), changing the title                                                                    
     from  "COMMISSIONER   OF  ADMINISTRATION"   to  "public                                                                    
     advocate."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Amends AS 36.30.305(a), changing  the title                                                                    
     from  "DIRECTOR OF  THE OFFICE  OF PUBLIC  ADVOCACY" to                                                                    
     "public advocate."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3: Amends  AS  36.30.850(b)(31), changing  the                                                                    
     title from "DIRECTOR OF THE  OFFICE OF PUBLIC ADVOCACY"                                                                    
     to "public advocate."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4:   Amends  AS   44.21.400  to   read:  (with                                                                    
     reference to the "public  advocacy office") "The office                                                                    
     is administered by the public advocate."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5: Amends  AS 44.21  by adding  a new  section                                                                    
     that reads:   "Sec.44.21.405. Appointment, removal, and                                                                    
     vacancy."                                                                                                                  
     Subsection  (a) directs  the  governor  to appoint  the                                                                    
     public advocate for a term  of four years, from persons                                                                    
     nominated  by  the  judicial  council  and  subject  to                                                                    
     majority   confirmation  by   the  joint   legislature.                                                                    
     Retention  of   the  public  advocate   requiring  only                                                                    
     similar legislative approval.                                                                                              
     Subsection  (b) lays  out the  removal process  for the                                                                    
     public  advocate, a  power held  by  the governor,  who                                                                    
     need  only  submit a  report  stating  the reasons  and                                                                    
     notify  the legislature  of the  report within  10 days                                                                    
     after the convening of the regular session.                                                                                
     Subsection (c)  required eligibility  entails acquiring                                                                    
     admittance to practice law in the State of Alaska.                                                                         
     NOTE:   This  mirrors   the  existing   Sec.  44.21.430                                                                    
     (requiring employees  of the public advocacy  office to                                                                    
     be licensed to practice law in the State of Alaska.                                                                        
     Subsection  (d)   during  vacancy,  the   governor  has                                                                    
     discretionary  authority to  appoint an  "acting public                                                                    
     advocate" and  the joint  duty (with  judicial council)                                                                    
     to fill the vacancy as soon as possible.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6:  Amends  AS 44.21.410(a)(7),  changing  the                                                                    
     title from "COMMISSIONER  OF ADMINISTRATION" to "public                                                                    
     advocate."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7:  Amends AS 44.21.410(b), changing  the title                                                                    
     from   "COMMISSIONER  OF   ADMINISTRATON"  to   "public                                                                    
     advocate" (and under  (b)(1): "COMMISSIONER" to "public                                                                    
     advocate").                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8:  Amends AS 44.21.415(c), changing  the title                                                                    
     from "COMMISSIONER" to "public advocate."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9:  Amends AS 44.21.415(e), changing  the title                                                                    
     from  "COMMISSIONER   OF  ADMINISTRATION"   to  "public                                                                    
     advocate."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10: Amends  AS 44.21.420,  changing the  title                                                                    
     from "COMMISSIONER OF  ADMINISTRATON" in subsection (a)                                                                    
     and  "COMMISSIONER"  in  subsections  (b),  &  (c),  to                                                                    
     "public advocate."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11: The  uncodified law of the  State of Alaska                                                                    
     is   amended  by   adding   a   new  section,   titled:                                                                    
     "TRANSITION" and to read:                                                                                                  
     Subsection  (a): Provides  for  the  continuity of  all                                                                    
     orders,  regulations,  contracts,  rights,  liabilities                                                                    
     and  obligations issued,  created,  or  adopted by  the                                                                    
     predecessor  to  the  envisioned public  advocate  (the                                                                    
     commissioner  of   administration)  and  by   the  pre-                                                                    
     existing law changed by this bill.                                                                                         
     Subsection   (b):  Provides   for  the   continuity  of                                                                    
     governance by  allowing the individual employed  as the                                                                    
     director of  the office of  public advocacy on  the day                                                                    
     before the effective  date of this Act to  serve as the                                                                    
     public  advocate  until  the governor  appoints  a  new                                                                    
     public advocate.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:38:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK announced that HB 58 was held over.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 16 Version A Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB0016A.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Version A Sectional Analysis.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Fiscal Note DOA-APOC-3-21-2025.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Support LTR Alaska Voter Hub.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Written Testimony Rec'd 3-26-25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
HB 16 Presentation 3-27-25 UPDATED.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 16
CS HB 35 Sponsor Statement - Version G 3.13.25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
CS HB 35 Sectional Analysis - Version G 3.13.25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
CS HB 35 CRA Ver G.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
CS HB 35 - Version G Explanation of Changes 3.13.25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35
HB 35 Presentation ARP 3-27-25.pdf HSTA 3/27/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 35