Legislature(2023 - 2024)BUTROVICH 205

04/04/2024 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:45:29 PM Start
03:46:30 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
03:55:57 PM Presentation: Governor's Task Force on Child Care
04:24:56 PM HB57
04:40:01 PM SB240
04:44:17 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Eric Nimmo, State Medical Board
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Presentation: Department of Health - Child Care
Task Force
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 89 CHILD CARE: TAX CREDITS/ASSISTANCE/GRANTS TELECONFERENCED
<Above Item Removed from Agenda>
+= HB 57 EMERGENCY MED. SVCS: REVIEW ORGANIZATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HB 57(HSS) Out of Committee
+= SB 240 SCHOOL DISTRICT MEDICAL ASSISTANCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 240(HSS) Out of Committee
        HB  57-EMERGENCY MED. SVCS: REVIEW ORGANIZATIONS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:24:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   WILSON  reconvened   the   meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration of  HOUSE BILL  NO. 57 "An  Act relating  to review                                                               
organizations  and  permitting   an  emergency  medical  services                                                               
provider  to establish  a review  organization;  and relating  to                                                               
patient records."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:25:23 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   STANLEY  WRIGHT,   District  22,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,  Alaska,  sponsor  of HB  57  provided  the                                                               
following recap:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     House   Bill  57   introduces  legal   protections  for                                                                    
     confidential  EMS peer  reviews  and quality  assurance                                                                    
     discussions,  fostering  an environment  of  continuous                                                                    
     learning  and  safety.  It shields  EMS  providers  and                                                                    
     medical  directors from  legal repercussions,  ensuring                                                                    
     that  they  focus  on improving  patient  care  without                                                                    
     fear.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:26:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON  moved  to  adopt   Amendment  1,  work  order  33-                                                               
LS0334\A.3, to HB 57.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                 33-LS0335\A.3                                                                  
                                                     Bergerud                                                                   
                                                       4/3/24                                                                   
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                BY SENATOR WILSON                                                                     
     TO HB 57                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 2:                                                                                                            
          Delete "and"                                                                                                        
          Following "records":                                                                                                
               Insert "; and relating to disclosure and                                                                       
     reporting  of health  care  services,  prices, and  fee                                                                  
     information"                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 22:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
     "* Sec. 4. AS 18.23.400(n)(3) is amended to read:                                                                        
                (3)  "health care facility municipal, or                                                                        
     state   hospital,   psychiatric   hospital,   emergency                                                                    
     department,  independent  diagnostic testing  facility,                                                                    
     residential psychiatric treatment  center as defined in                                                                    
     AS 47.32.900,    kidney   disease    treatment   center                                                                    
     (including freestanding hemodialysis  units), office of                                                                    
     a private  physician or  dentist whether  in individual                                                                    
     or  group  practice,   ambulatory  surgical  center  as                                                                    
     defined in  AS 47.32.900, freestanding birth  center as                                                                    
     defined  in AS 47.32.900,  and rural  health clinic  as                                                                    
     defined  in AS 47.32.900;  "health care  facility" does                                                                    
     not include " means a private,                                                                                             
               (A)  the Alaska Pioneers' Home and the                                                                           
          Alaska Veterans' Home administered by the                                                                             
          department under AS 47.55;                                                                                            
               (B)  an assisted living home as defined in                                                                       
          AS 47.33.990;                                                                                                         
               (C)  a nursing facility licensed by the                                                                          
          department to provide long-term care;                                                                                 
               (D)  a facility operated by an Alaska tribal                                                                     
          health organization;                                                                                                  
               [AND]                                                                                                            
               (E)  a hospital operated by the United                                                                           
          States Department of Veterans Affairs or the                                                                          
          United States Department of Defense, or any other                                                                     
         federally operated hospital or institution; or                                                                     
               (F)  a hospital subject to 45 C.F.R. 180 as                                                                  
          that section  read on the  effective date  of this                                                                
          Act  or  any   other  federal  price  transparency                                                                
          requirements  that are  reasonably  similar to  or                                                                
          exceed the requirements in this section;"                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:26:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:26:30 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:26:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON reconvened the meeting  and explained that Amendment                                                               
1 addresses price transparency and  disclosure of healthcare cost                                                               
information for providers.  Alaska updated its laws  in 2018, but                                                               
since that time, federal laws  have been updated twicefirst  with                                                               
the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and  then with the No Surprises Act                                                               
(NSA), which are  more rigorous than our state  laws. Amendment 1                                                               
provides statutory clarity upon those  laws and, if passed, would                                                               
require hospitals  to comply with  federal requirements  under 45                                                               
CFR 180,  in addition to  state standards found in  AS 18.23.400,                                                               
if  45   CFR  180  or   similar  federal   hospital  transparency                                                               
regulations are  repealed. This ensures hospitals  remain subject                                                               
to state  reporting requirements, maintaining  price transparency                                                               
without duplicative  reporting obligations.  Federal requirements                                                               
are  currently more  stringent than  state requirements.  Members                                                               
have  been provided  with  four relevant  items  from the  Alaska                                                               
Hospital  and Healthcare  Association, Alaska  Regional Hospital,                                                               
and Fairbanks  Memorial Hospital. He stated  representatives from                                                               
these organizations were available to answer questions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:29:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  acknowledged the  efficacy of the  amendment but                                                               
expressed  difficulty understanding  its connection  to Emergency                                                               
Medical  Services (EMS)  reviews, noting  that it  feels like  an                                                               
entirely  new topic,  perhaps  suited for  a  separate bill.  She                                                               
requested clarification.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON clarified that it is  not a separate bill but rather                                                               
an amendment  to similar sections  of law and  statutes addressed                                                               
by the current bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL replied she understood and noted it.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  responded that the  premise is to do  a legislative                                                               
fix to statute. He noted that  a title change resolution was also                                                               
prepared.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  stated that she  would be interested  in hearing                                                               
the sponsor's response to this significant amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:30:11 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT  stated that he had  reviewed the amendment                                                               
and is  open to  taking more  if it  creates positive  changes in                                                               
similar legislation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:30:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  noted for  the record,  and with  appreciation to                                                               
the  Chair,  that   Amendment  1  as  he  reads   it  provides  a                                                               
"backstop." He stated  the purpose of the amendment  is to ensure                                                               
hospitals  adhere to  the higher  federal standard  under 45  CFR                                                               
180, or  any similar federal  price transparency  requirement, in                                                               
case of  future changes.  He explained that  if federal  law were                                                               
fully  repealed,  the  amendment   would  default  to  the  state                                                               
standard, serving as  a fallback. He emphasized that  this is his                                                               
interpretation of  the amendment  and expressed hope  that future                                                               
readers understand  it similarly, commending the  Chair's work in                                                               
crafting the language.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:32:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  asked Mr. Kosin  to provide comment  and background                                                               
on  the  impetus  for  Amendment  1,  as  well  as  some  of  the                                                               
challenges Alaskan  hospitals encounter with dueling  federal and                                                               
state statutes.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:32:54 PM                                                                                                                    
JARED   KOSIN,   President,   Alaska  Hospital   and   Healthcare                                                               
Association,  Anchorage,   Alaska,  pointed  out   that  Alaska's                                                               
requirements require manual data entry  into a PDF, while federal                                                               
standards are  automated and  on a  much broader  scale. Aligning                                                               
with federal  standards would save  both hospitals and  the state                                                               
considerable time and resources,  as it would eliminate redundant                                                               
data  entry.   He  expressed  appreciation  for   the  amendment,                                                               
emphasizing that  if federal standards  ever fall  below Alaska's                                                               
current requirements, hospitals will  automatically revert to the                                                               
state  standards.  He  also  highlighted  the  federal  focus  on                                                               
shoppable   services  and   episodes  of   care,  which   provide                                                               
practical, consumer-friendly information  that state requirements                                                               
currently lack.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:36:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON asked if objection was maintained.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:36:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:37:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON found no further objection and solicited a motion.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:37:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN  moved to report  HB 57, work  order 33-LS0335\A,                                                               
as amended,  from committee  with individual  recommendations and                                                               
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:37:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON asked if there was objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:37:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR stated there was mention of a title change.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON explained  that  Legislative  Legal Services  would                                                               
provide a  title change resolution  that will be read  across the                                                               
floor and  then go to the  Senate Secretaries office until  HB 57                                                               
is taken up.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:38:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR removed his objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:38:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON found  no further objection and SCS HB  57 (HSS) was                                                               
reported  from the  Senate Health  and  Social Services  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Eric Nimmo Med Board App_Redacted.pdf SHSS 4/4/2024 3:30:00 PM
SHSS 4.4.24 Consideration of Governor's Appointees - Eric Nimmo, State Medical Board
Eric Nimmo Medical Board Resume_Redacted.pdf SHSS 4/4/2024 3:30:00 PM
SHSS 4.4.24 - Consideration of Governor's Appointees - Eric Nimmo, State Medical Board
SHSS GTFCC Presentation 4.4.24.pdf SHSS 4/4/2024 3:30:00 PM
SHSS 4.4.24 DOH Governor's Task Force on Child Care Presentation
SB 240 DOH on Age of Consent Amdnmt.pdf SHSS 4/4/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240
HB 57 Amdmt Wilson A.3.pdf SHSS 4/4/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 57
SHSS 4.4.24 December 2023 Governor's Task Force on Child Care Report.pdf SHSS 4/4/2024 3:30:00 PM
SHSS 4.4.24 DOH Presentation on Governor's Task Force on Child Care
SB 240 Amdmt 1 - Adopted.pdf SHSS 4/4/2024 3:30:00 PM
SB 240