Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

03/04/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:33:46 PM Start
01:34:56 PM Overview: Fy26 Department Budget by the Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development
02:49:06 PM Adjourn
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+= HB 53 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 55 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY26 Department Budget by Department of TELECONFERENCED
Commerce, Community and Economic Development
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     making  reappropriations;  making appropriations  under                                                                    
     art.  IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution  of  the State  of                                                                    
     Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 55                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW:  FY26  DEPARTMENT  BUDGET BY  THE  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                  
COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:34:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE   SANDE,   COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,                                                                    
COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, introduced  herself and                                                                    
the  PowerPoint  presentation  "Department  Overview  FY2026                                                                    
Budget" dated  March 4, 2025  (copy on file).  She continued                                                                    
through  slide   2  and  relayed  that   the  Department  of                                                                    
Commerce,  Community  and   Economic  Development's  (DCCED)                                                                    
mission  was  to  promote  strong  communities,  maintain  a                                                                    
healthy economy, and protect  consumers throughout the state                                                                    
of Alaska.  She explained  that the  department accomplished                                                                    
its  work  through  its  seven   core  divisions  and  eight                                                                    
corporate  agencies.   She  continued   to  slide   3  which                                                                    
illustrated  the  department's  structure. She  pointed  out                                                                    
that the gray  boxes on the slide  represented the following                                                                    
divisions: the  Administrative Services Division  (ASD), the                                                                    
Alaska Broadband  Office (ABO), the Division  of Banking and                                                                    
Securities  (DBS), the  Division of  Community and  Regional                                                                    
Affairs  (DCRA),  Corporations, Business,  and  Professional                                                                    
Licensing  (CBPL),  the  Division of  Investments,  and  the                                                                    
Division of  Insurance. She added  that the  department also                                                                    
housed  corporate  agencies,  including the  Alaska  Seafood                                                                    
Marketing  Institute  (ASMI),   the  Alcohol  and  Marijuana                                                                    
Control Office  (AMCO), the Alaska Oil  and Gas Conservation                                                                    
Commission  (AOGCC),  the  Regulatory Commission  of  Alaska                                                                    
(RCA),  the  Alaska  Energy   Authority  (AEA),  the  Alaska                                                                    
Industrial  Development and  Export  Authority (AIDEA),  the                                                                    
Alaska  Gasline  Development  Corporation  (AGDC),  and  the                                                                    
Alaska Railroad  Corporation (ARC).  She clarified  that the                                                                    
ARC was  categorized differently because it  fell outside of                                                                    
the Executive Budget Act.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson  remarked   that  there   had  been                                                                    
considerable discussion  about the gasline and  funding that                                                                    
might be  directed through AGDC  or another entity,  such as                                                                    
AIDEA. She  asked if the  department could explain  its role                                                                    
in  the process  and if  it had  the resources  necessary to                                                                    
manage  the cash  flow. She  suggested  that the  department                                                                    
address the topic throughout the presentation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:37:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HANNAH LAGER,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES  DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,  proceeded                                                                    
to  slide  4,  which  provided   a  broad  overview  of  the                                                                    
department's  budget. She  stated that  the total  operating                                                                    
budget request  for FY  26 was  $240 million.  She explained                                                                    
that  only  a small  portion  of  the  total came  from  the                                                                    
general fund, which  was represented by the  blue segment on                                                                    
the  pie chart.  The  majority of  the department's  funding                                                                    
came from receipts of  various types, including assessments,                                                                    
fees, regulatory cost charges,  and investment earnings. She                                                                    
stated  that the  department was  primarily self-funded  and                                                                    
that  more  information  would  be  provided  later  in  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked for  clarification on  the data                                                                    
presented  in   the  pie  chart.  She   observed  a  notable                                                                    
discrepancy between  the amount  of federal  funds projected                                                                    
and the amount  actually received. For example,  there was a                                                                    
significant  difference  between  the  management  plan  and                                                                    
actuals   and  she   asked  for   an   explanation  of   the                                                                    
discrepancy.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager responded  that in FY 22,  the department received                                                                    
a  significant influx  of federal  COVID-19 pandemic-related                                                                    
funds  for a  wide range  of projects.  She stated  that one                                                                    
appropriation of just  over $180 million had  been placed in                                                                    
the  operating  budget  as a  multiyear  appropriation.  She                                                                    
explained  that  the appropriation  had  been  added in  the                                                                    
first  year,  reversed out  in  the  second year,  and  then                                                                    
updated  annually   based  on  what  could   be  spent.  She                                                                    
clarified  that not  all of  the funding  was received.  The                                                                    
large increase  in the federal  portion of the FY  24 budget                                                                    
was  not received  in the  budget, but  the increase  simply                                                                    
reflected the technical authority to receive the funds.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin asked for  confirmation that since the                                                                    
discrepancy   was  due   to   pandemic-related  funds,   the                                                                    
projections for  FY 25  versus the  actuals would  likely be                                                                    
better aligned.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded in the affirmative.  The department had                                                                    
returned to  its usual  level of  federal funding  but there                                                                    
was always some variability due  to the nature of receivable                                                                    
grants.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  asked  if it  was  the  department's                                                                    
intention  for the  funding  proportions  in the  governor's                                                                    
proposed FY 26 budget to closely  track with those of FY 24.                                                                    
She asked if her interpretation was accurate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that  there was  very little  change in                                                                    
the department's federal budget between FY 25 and FY 26.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  asked what  the term "DGF"  stood for                                                                    
on slide 4. She asked for some examples of DGF.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that DGF  stood for  designated general                                                                    
funds.  She  explained  that the  funds  primarily  included                                                                    
licensing  fee receipts.  The regulatory  cost charges  from                                                                    
AOGCC and RCA  were categorized as DGF as  well as insurance                                                                    
licensing  receipts. She  indicated that  the "other"  funds                                                                    
category  consisted  of  a  mix   of  sources  such  as  AEA                                                                    
receipts, which  reflected investment  earnings, as  well as                                                                    
receipts  from the  AIDEA. She  stated  that the  department                                                                    
also had  a significant amount of  duplicated authority. For                                                                    
example, ASD  was funded by interagency  authority which was                                                                    
considered duplicated authority  because the other divisions                                                                    
paid ASD for its services.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  proceeded to slide  5. She emphasized  that DCCED                                                                    
was the smallest  consumer of general funds  among all state                                                                    
departments. She continued  to slide 6 and  noted that while                                                                    
the department had the smallest  general fund draw, it was a                                                                    
complex  entity.  The  department   had  30  different  fund                                                                    
sources in its  operating budget, which was the  most of any                                                                    
department.  She explained  that  the  budget included  many                                                                    
specialized   funding  sources   and  that   the  department                                                                    
operated  17 different  divisions or  result delivery  units                                                                    
(RDU). She  indicated that the presentation  would address a                                                                    
wide range of functions because  the agency itself carried a                                                                    
wide range of responsibilities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp stated that it  would be helpful if the                                                                    
department  could provide  a breakdown  of  the fund  source                                                                    
codes and  the corresponding  RDUs. He  noted that  while it                                                                    
appeared that  DGF fund sources  were increasing,  it seemed                                                                    
that  other   receipts  were  decreasing,  such   as  ASMI's                                                                    
receipts  from the  Fishermen's Fund.  He explained  that he                                                                    
had no way of determining  whether the funds were increasing                                                                    
or decreasing.  He asked which  of the department's  30 fund                                                                    
source codes  were showing the  largest increases  and which                                                                    
were showing the largest decreases.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager responded  that she  could  provide some  general                                                                    
information but might  need to follow up  with more details.                                                                    
She explained  that the  presentation primarily  showed what                                                                    
the department was requesting authority  to expend from each                                                                    
funding source,  rather than  the actual  amounts collected.                                                                    
In many  cases, the department collected  significantly more                                                                    
than  it expended.  The largest  area of  growth in  revenue                                                                    
sources was the insurance  premium tax, which the department                                                                    
collected but did not spend in its budget.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager explained  that  some of  the  funds were  passed                                                                    
through the  Department of  Labor and  Workforce Development                                                                    
(DLWD)   to  fund   workers'   compensation  programs.   She                                                                    
reiterated that  DCCED did not  expend the funds  itself and                                                                    
that the  funds were  deposited into  the general  fund. She                                                                    
noted that the department had  observed a decline in seafood                                                                    
marketing  assessments  collected  by  ASMI.  She  clarified                                                                    
again   that  the   presentation   focused  on   expenditure                                                                    
authority rather  than revenue  collections. She  offered to                                                                    
follow up with  a report detailing actuals  for each funding                                                                    
source.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   asked   what  occurred   when   the                                                                    
department collected  more in receipt authority  than it was                                                                    
authorized to expend.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager responded that a  future slide in the presentation                                                                    
would address the specific issue.  Depending on the program,                                                                    
most of  the excess  revenue went to  the general  fund. She                                                                    
added  that  the department  was  permitted  to carry  funds                                                                    
forward  to  the  following year  in  some  components.  For                                                                    
example,  the intent  with  professional licensing  receipts                                                                    
was  to  retain  the  funds within  the  same  program  that                                                                    
collected the  fees so that  the revenue would  be available                                                                    
in the following year.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp asked if any  RDUs that had the ability                                                                    
to  carry  forward  DGF  were also  requesting  UGF  in  the                                                                    
current fiscal year.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that there  were a few areas  where the                                                                    
department had  requested general  funds. For  example, ASMI                                                                    
had  the  authority  to  carry  forward  revenues,  but  the                                                                    
revenues had  declined which had prompted  the department to                                                                    
request  general funds  to backfill  the marketing  efforts.                                                                    
She added  that another  example was AOGCC,  which primarily                                                                    
operated  using   regulatory  cost  charges.   However,  the                                                                    
department  had requested  general funds  for carbon-related                                                                    
expenditures  to  ensure  that   the  work  continued  while                                                                    
awaiting the development of revenue  sources specific to the                                                                    
carbon program.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp asked if  the RDUs that were requesting                                                                    
general  funds already  had more  than the  requested amount                                                                    
available  in  the  carry-forward  authority  for  the  next                                                                    
fiscal year.  He asked why  a unit  would request UGF  if it                                                                    
already had sufficient funding.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager responded that the  use of revenue depended on the                                                                    
statutory  or  regulatory  authority   under  which  it  was                                                                    
collected.  She explained  that  funds had  to  be used  for                                                                    
their   designated  purpose.   For   example,  the   revenue                                                                    
authority for AOGCC applied to  its traditional drilling and                                                                    
monitoring work, but  not to the carbon  program. She stated                                                                    
that  the commission  was still  developing regulations  for                                                                    
the carbon program  and that the revenue had  to remain tied                                                                    
to the work for which it was collected.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  whether the  Division  of  Motor                                                                    
Vehicles (DMV) was an exception to the rule.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager   responded  that  she  could   not  provide  any                                                                    
information on  the DMV's revenue  because it was  not under                                                                    
DCCED.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager moved  to slide 7 which detailed  major sources of                                                                    
department revenue generation. She noted  that in FY 24, the                                                                    
department  requested authority  to spend  approximately $16                                                                    
million  in FY  26.  However, the  department had  deposited                                                                    
over  $118 million  in  FY  24 into  the  general fund.  She                                                                    
stated that in  addition to funding its  own operations, the                                                                    
department  had consistently  returned a  significant amount                                                                    
to the treasury each year.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  continued to slide 9  which detailed the                                                                    
Commissioner's  Office  and  its marketing  initiative.  She                                                                    
explained  that the  Commissioner's Office  was involved  in                                                                    
legislative  relations, boards  and commissions,  the Office                                                                    
of  International   Trade,  economic   development,  special                                                                    
projects,   and  the   Marketing   Alaska  initiative.   She                                                                    
announced  that  the  department  was  excited  that  Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner Anna Latham had  recently joined the leadership                                                                    
team.  She  explained  that  the  marketing  initiative  was                                                                    
brought  about as  a result  of presentations  that she  had                                                                    
given to the legislature in  the past. She relayed that when                                                                    
she first  began her work  as commissioner,  she immediately                                                                    
recognized  the  value  of  the   work  conducted  by  ASMI,                                                                    
particularly in  global promotion  of the  seafood industry.                                                                    
She  noted  that  the  Alaska  Travel  Industry  Association                                                                    
(ATIA) had also been  highly effective in promoting tourism.                                                                    
When  she first  started  working as  commissioner, she  had                                                                    
wondered  if there  were any  entities  that were  marketing                                                                    
Alaska to  investors and  promoting other  industries beyond                                                                    
seafood and tourism.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  stated  that the  department  aimed  to                                                                    
develop   a   long-term   vision   for   Alaska's   business                                                                    
environment that would appeal  to both current investors and                                                                    
future  generations  of  Alaskans. She  explained  that  the                                                                    
department  had recently  released a  request for  proposals                                                                    
and successfully offered a  marketing contract. The selected                                                                    
contractor was the Black Rock  Group, working in partnership                                                                    
with  Poolhouse and  Six7 on  the marketing  initiative. The                                                                    
department  had  hired  a   project  manager,  executed  the                                                                    
contract,  and   was  pleased   to  have   the  contractor's                                                                    
expertise supporting the  marketing initiative. She reported                                                                    
that   the  department   was   working   toward  the   first                                                                    
deliverable milestone,  which was  the launch of  a website.                                                                    
She explained  that the department  had identified  the need                                                                    
for investors outside Alaska to  easily navigate the process                                                                    
of   identifying   the  appropriate   economic   development                                                                    
contacts  and  obtaining  relevant information.  She  stated                                                                    
that DCRA had compiled  extensive data, including story maps                                                                    
and  other community  data,  but the  data  was not  readily                                                                    
accessible to users  both inside and outside  the state. She                                                                    
confirmed  that  the  department  was  actively  working  to                                                                    
address the  issue and  stated that the  soft launch  of the                                                                    
website was scheduled for the end of the month.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande added that  one of the department's early                                                                    
partners  in the  initiative was  the Alaska  Chamber, which                                                                    
had assisted in data collection  to establish a baseline for                                                                    
measuring  progress.  She  stated that  the  department  was                                                                    
working  with  stakeholders  across various  industries  and                                                                    
businesses  in Alaska  to  gather feedback  on  how best  to                                                                    
represent the  state. She relayed that  the department would                                                                    
participate  in the  SelectUSA Investment  Summit in  May of                                                                    
2025,  which was  the highest-visibility  event for  foreign                                                                    
direct  investment  in the  U.S.  and  would take  place  in                                                                    
Washington,   D.C.  She   expressed  enthusiasm   about  the                                                                    
opportunity to represent Alaska at the event.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:52:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  how  much  the department  was                                                                    
spending on the  external contracts. She asked  if the three                                                                    
aforementioned  contractors  [Black Rock  Group,  Poolhouse,                                                                    
and  Six7] constituted  the full  scope of  the department's                                                                    
external contracts.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande   responded  that  the   department  had                                                                    
received a  $5 million  capital appropriation  for marketing                                                                    
two years  earlier. She explained that  the funds originated                                                                    
from excess business licensing  receipts. The department had                                                                    
allocated  approximately $500,000  to  a  contract with  the                                                                    
Alaska  Chamber for  in-state marketing  and  $3 million  to                                                                    
external contractors for nationwide marketing.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   asked   if  the   department   had                                                                    
established specific  deliverables and  performance measures                                                                    
when issuing  the requests for  proposals. She asked  for an                                                                    
example of  how the  department would determine  whether the                                                                    
$3  million   allocated  for  marketing  had   achieved  its                                                                    
intended goals.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  responded  that  the  first  measurable                                                                    
milestone  was the  creation of  a website  that was  easily                                                                    
navigable. She  stated that the  department had  also relied                                                                    
on  the Alaska  Chamber to  survey Alaskan  businesses using                                                                    
metrics such as  job creation and new  business formation as                                                                    
key indicators of success. She  understood the importance of                                                                    
the   department  being   able  to   demonstrate  measurable                                                                    
outcomes.  She  did  not   believe  in  creating  additional                                                                    
government programs  without justification and  thought that                                                                    
a program  should not be  continued if the  department could                                                                    
not demonstrate that the program  was successful. She stated                                                                    
that  the  department  viewed the  marketing  effort  as  an                                                                    
opportunity   to   produce   long-term  value   for   future                                                                    
generations of  Alaskans. She relayed that  her children had                                                                    
received   targeted  advertising   related  to   the  Willow                                                                    
Project. Her  children had reached  out to her  after seeing                                                                    
content  online that  questioned the  project. She  stressed                                                                    
that  it was  important to  be able  to respond  quickly and                                                                    
effectively  to   outside  interests  that   were  spreading                                                                    
disinformation about Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   asked  for  clarification   if  the                                                                    
website  referenced earlier  was  part  of the  department's                                                                    
official website or a separate  site dedicated to investment                                                                    
promotion.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande   responded  that  the  website   was  a                                                                    
separate site. She  explained that it would  have some level                                                                    
of intersection  with the official  State of  Alaska website                                                                    
but  she  did   not  know  the  technical   details  of  the                                                                    
integration.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan asked  for the name or  web address of                                                                    
the  website.  She  had  searched the  names  of  the  three                                                                    
aforementioned  firms but  had  not found  any reference  to                                                                    
Alaska on their websites.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande stated that  the website would not launch                                                                    
until the end  of March of 2025. She  explained that nothing                                                                    
would  be online  yet  because the  department  had not  yet                                                                    
launched the site. The site  was being modeled after similar                                                                    
easy-to-navigate  economic  development websites  for  other                                                                    
states  that   offered  a   significant  amount   of  useful                                                                    
information and access to  external resources. She clarified                                                                    
that the  department did  not intend  to duplicate  work but                                                                    
instead  aimed to  create a  separate site  that was  easily                                                                    
navigable for  interested parties seeking  information about                                                                    
Alaska. The  department was reviewing which  information was                                                                    
most needed by users and how  best to present it. She stated                                                                    
that  North Carolina  had initially  received  a $1  million                                                                    
grant and it had  demonstrated measurable growth in economic                                                                    
value  attributed to  the content  provided on  its website.                                                                    
The  department  was using  North  Carolina  as one  of  its                                                                    
models for the Alaska website.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:57:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager continued  on  slide 11  and  explained that  ASD                                                                    
managed  the  department's   administrative  operations  and                                                                    
systems. The division's budget  was primarily funded through                                                                    
interagency  receipts,  which   were  collected  from  other                                                                    
divisions in  the department in  exchange for  services. She                                                                    
stated  that  each  division received  a  different  mix  of                                                                    
services  from ASD.  She explained  that the  largest budget                                                                    
change for FY  26 was the restructuring  of the department's                                                                    
facilities  rent component.  Previously, the  department had                                                                    
one component, but  it would now be separated  into two: one                                                                    
for  state-owned buildings  and one  for rented  facilities.                                                                    
She  noted that  $150,000 in  interagency receipt  authority                                                                    
had been added to align with projected expenditures.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager proceeded  to slide 12 and expressed  that she was                                                                    
excited  about ABO's  ongoing work.  She  reported that  the                                                                    
office was  preparing to issue  grants and  advance projects                                                                    
across the  state. Grant advertisements were  currently open                                                                    
and  would remain  open through  April of  2025. The  office                                                                    
expected  to   issue  grants  in  FY   26,  with  deployment                                                                    
scheduled from 2026  to 2030. She clarified  that the grants                                                                    
would  be issued  using capital  authority that  had already                                                                    
been  appropriated. She  indicated that  ABO's FY  26 budget                                                                    
included two changes. The first  change was the continuation                                                                    
of  funding to  maintain the  office's current  staffing and                                                                    
operations as the office had  previously been funded through                                                                    
one-time  items. The  second change  was a  small amount  of                                                                    
general  funds  to  support   core  services  billing  while                                                                    
federal funds continued to increase.  She clarified that the                                                                    
federal funds were collected based  on activity and required                                                                    
additional  authority to  ensure  the office  could pay  its                                                                    
outstanding bills.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  whether the  federal  funds  had                                                                    
flowed   in  a   typical  manner   since  the   presidential                                                                    
inauguration in January of 2025.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager responded that  the department's Broadband Equity,                                                                    
Access,  and Deployment  (BEAD) grant  was a  billion-dollar                                                                    
federal  grant  program  and  had  likely  experienced  only                                                                    
minimal   impacts   from   recent   federal   changes.   She                                                                    
anticipated that only slight  language adjustments and minor                                                                    
programmatic  updates would  be needed.  She did  not expect                                                                    
significant impacts to the large  grant issuances. She added                                                                    
that  the component  also  administered  the Digital  Equity                                                                    
Award and  that there might  be changes to the  program, but                                                                    
it   was   a  smaller   grant   program   with  funding   of                                                                    
approximately $5 million.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp understood that  ABO had been operating                                                                    
for at  least two  years. He  requested more  information on                                                                    
the  reported $3.1  million in  UGF  that was  spent on  the                                                                    
office.  He asked  how many  BEAD grants  had been  deployed                                                                    
beyond what  might have occurred  naturally through  the bid                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  responded  that  ABO  was  primarily  funded  by                                                                    
approximately  $3  million  in  federal  funds  appropriated                                                                    
through  the   capital  budget  and  collected   as  capital                                                                    
improvement project  (CIP) receipts. She clarified  that the                                                                    
department was requesting $50,000  in general funds and that                                                                    
the bulk of  the office's funding came  from federal capital                                                                    
receipts. She stated that the  grant programs were currently                                                                    
being  advertised and  application  periods  would close  in                                                                    
April. She  explained that no  BEAD grants had  been awarded                                                                    
yet  because the  federal grant  requirements were  specific                                                                    
and had taken time to implement.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp reiterated  that ABO  had existed  for                                                                    
approximately two  years and asked for  confirmation that no                                                                    
BEAD grants had been deployed during that time.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  confirmed that no  BEAD grants had  been deployed                                                                    
yet.  She  explained  that   the  department  was  currently                                                                    
collecting applications for the program.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked for more information  about the                                                                    
request  for  $50,000  in UGF.  She  acknowledged  that  the                                                                    
department had access  to other funding but  some costs were                                                                    
not permissible under the grant specifications.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  responded that  every  state  agency received  a                                                                    
number  of  baseline  charges, including  billing  from  the                                                                    
Office   of  Information   Technology,  billing   from  Risk                                                                    
Management,  and billing  from  ASD  and the  Commissioner's                                                                    
Office sections.  She explained that the  department had not                                                                    
historically managed  significant levels of  federal funding                                                                    
and did not have a  federally approved cost allocation plan.                                                                    
For  example,  when  the  department  administered  a  large                                                                    
federal  program  through  the Alaska  Comprehensive  Health                                                                    
Insurance  Association  (ACHIA),  it  intentionally  avoided                                                                    
collecting administrative funds in  order to reduce costs in                                                                    
the health care market.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager explained  that due to the absence  of a federally                                                                    
approved  indirect  cost  plan,  ABO  had  been  limited  to                                                                    
applying the  de minimis  rate of  10 percent.  She reported                                                                    
that the  rate had  not been sufficient  to fully  cover the                                                                    
office's  core services  and operational  costs. The  office                                                                    
itself  had   five  staff  positions  but   it  also  funded                                                                    
additional  personnel in  other  agencies.  She stated  that                                                                    
grant   administrators   were   located   in   other   grant                                                                    
administration  offices and  funded through  ABO. Similarly,                                                                    
ABO  funded  permitting  positions   in  the  Department  of                                                                    
Natural  Resources   (DNR).  She   explained  that   as  the                                                                    
expenditures increased,  the department expected  to collect                                                                    
more under the  de minimis rate or under  a future federally                                                                    
approved cost  plan. However, the department  did not expect                                                                    
the collections  to fully cover all  costs for FY 26  and FY                                                                    
27.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:03:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  asked  whether   it  would  be  more                                                                    
appropriate for planning  purposes to fund the  $50,000 as a                                                                    
three-year one-time increment instead of using UGF.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that the  department had  requested the                                                                    
funds as a two-year temporary  increment of $50,000 per year                                                                    
for  FY 26  and FY  27. She  stated that  the structure  was                                                                    
currently reflected in the budget.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  noted that the department  had stated                                                                    
it  was  currently   accepting  applications  for  broadband                                                                    
funding  and asked  why  it  had taken  two  years to  begin                                                                    
collecting applications.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that she  would need to follow  up with                                                                    
detailed  information.  She explained  that  ABO  was a  new                                                                    
office in  the state and  the BEAD  program was also  new at                                                                    
the  federal level.  She reported  that  the department  had                                                                    
spent  time  developing  the  required  planning  documents,                                                                    
collecting  mapping data,  and establishing  a framework  to                                                                    
appropriately  evaluate  incoming  grant  applications.  She                                                                    
stated that she  would be happy to provide a  summary of the                                                                    
office's activities over the past two years.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Allard  asked   how   many  vacancies   the                                                                    
department had.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager responded  that she  would follow  up. She  noted                                                                    
that   the  department   had   recently  submitted   vacancy                                                                    
information  to the  Office of  Management and  Budget (OMB)                                                                    
and she would provide it to the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  added that a significant  portion of the                                                                    
past   two   years   had  been   spent   coordinating   with                                                                    
stakeholders  and addressing  the mapping  component of  the                                                                    
BEAD program. She  emphasized that it was  a federal program                                                                    
and  that  all states  had  been  operating under  the  same                                                                    
schedule. She  stated that one of  Alaska's applications had                                                                    
been among  the first received  and that the  department had                                                                    
worked  responsively to  present  Alaska's  plan and  comply                                                                    
with federal requirements.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  added that  the mapping  requirement had                                                                    
been particularly complex for  Alaska because the department                                                                    
had   needed  to   demonstrate   where   the  unserved   and                                                                    
underserved locations  were throughout  the state.  Once the                                                                    
department  received federal  data showing  which areas  had                                                                    
been   designated  as   unserved   or  underserved,   Alaska                                                                    
communities were given the  opportunity to submit rebuttals.                                                                    
The rebuttals allowed communities  to challenge the accuracy                                                                    
of the  federal maps  by indicating locations  that appeared                                                                    
served but  were not receiving  service. She  explained that                                                                    
the  maps misrepresented  information because  the maps  had                                                                    
been created  by individuals who  were not from  Alaska. She                                                                    
emphasized that  ABO had thoroughly addressed  the issue and                                                                    
it had been  particularly important to ensure  the maps were                                                                    
accurate for rural Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  continued that the department  had spent                                                                    
a significant  amount of  time and  effort on  ensuring that                                                                    
communities  in  rural  Alaska were  accurately  represented                                                                    
during the mapping  process. For example, a  river in Alaska                                                                    
would  not  necessarily present  the  same  conditions as  a                                                                    
river in  the rest  of the  U.S. due  to challenges  such as                                                                    
weather  and  barge  transportation.  She  stated  that  the                                                                    
department  had  approached  the process  with  caution  and                                                                    
thoroughness.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:06:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum asked whether  the BEAD grants included                                                                    
any requirement  for communities to demonstrate  the ability                                                                    
to maintain the infrastructure.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande responded that  she would need to consult                                                                    
with her colleagues to provide the information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande proceeded to  slide 13 and explained that                                                                    
DBS  helped regulate  the state's  financial industries  and                                                                    
served  a  critical  role in  supporting  Alaska's  economic                                                                    
framework. There were no significant  budget changes for DBS                                                                    
for FY 26;  however, DBS had contributed $18  million to the                                                                    
general fund in the prior  year and it managed several other                                                                    
revenue-generating sources.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  continued to  slide 14,  which addressed                                                                    
DCRA. She  stated that the  division played a  critical role                                                                    
in  the department's  work and  administered grants  under a                                                                    
wide  variety  of  programs. She  noted  that  the  division                                                                    
housed  the  grant  administrators  for  ABO  and  currently                                                                    
managed  a  portfolio  of approximately  $1.2  billion.  The                                                                    
portfolio would increase to  approximately $2.2 billion once                                                                    
broadband was  included. She  explained that  the division's                                                                    
operating  budget  included  several recurring  grants  that                                                                    
were embedded in the base  budget. The grants did not appear                                                                    
in the  capital budget as  legislative grants and  would not                                                                    
appear as transactions.  She relayed that two  of the grants                                                                    
included  on the  slide had  associated budget  transactions                                                                    
and  had been  marked with  asterisks to  indicate that  the                                                                    
grants were being adjusted for FY 26.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  asked to  return  to  slide 13.  She                                                                    
requested  specific examples  of  what  was accomplished  by                                                                    
each grant listed on the slide.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande responded that  the Alaska Legal Services                                                                    
Corporation  (ALSC)  provided  low-cost  legal  services  to                                                                    
individuals with  limited means. She stated  that the Alaska                                                                    
Marine   Safety  Education   Association  (AMSEA)   provided                                                                    
maritime  education   to  professional  fishers   and  their                                                                    
families.   She  explained   that  the   Inter-Island  Ferry                                                                    
Authority (IIFA)  supported transportation  services between                                                                    
Ketchikan and  Prince of Wales  Island. She noted  that Life                                                                    
Alaska  Donor  Services  (LADS)  conducted  donor  awareness                                                                    
activities  related to  organ donation.  She explained  that                                                                    
the Kuskokwim  Ice Road (KIR)  grant funded  the maintenance                                                                    
and operation of  the ice road in the  Kuskokwim region. She                                                                    
stated  that the  Volunteers of  America Alaska  (VAA) grant                                                                    
supported an Anchorage-based program,  but she would need to                                                                    
follow up on the specific focus of the grant.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard stated that  she had reviewed the list                                                                    
and understood the general purpose  of each grant but wanted                                                                    
more  detailed  information   about  each  grant's  specific                                                                    
activities.  She requested  detailed  information about  the                                                                    
use  of  funds,  including  who received  payments  and  the                                                                    
rationale   for  funding   at   the   current  levels.   She                                                                    
acknowledged that  collecting the information  would require                                                                    
additional time, but  she was interested in  a more detailed                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson interjected  to  note that  he had  some                                                                    
familiarity  with   the  VAA  grant.   He  noted   that  the                                                                    
organization   was   located  in   Representative   Allard's                                                                    
neighborhood.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  agreed  and   stated  that  she  had                                                                    
visited  the organization.  She shared  that she  had nearly                                                                    
supported  removing  the  funding  for the  grant  from  the                                                                    
budget the previous year, but  had changed her opinion after                                                                    
visiting  the  organization.  She   was  grateful  that  the                                                                    
funding had not been removed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  if Representative  Allard  still                                                                    
wanted the department to  provide detailed information about                                                                    
VAA.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard relayed that  she was trying to better                                                                    
understand VAA's mission. She would  be happy to discuss the                                                                    
matter with the department offline.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager   responded  that  she   would  follow   up  with                                                                    
Representative Allard  offline with  additional information.                                                                    
She  explained  that  the  VAA  grant  had  been  added  the                                                                    
previous year as  a temporary increment and  was included in                                                                    
both FY 25 and FY 26 as a legislative addition.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie  asked whether Napakiak  was receiving                                                                    
funding through the grant for KIR.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager responded in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie asked if it  would make more sense for                                                                    
the funding  to be  included annually  in the  Department of                                                                    
Transportation  and Public  Facilities' (DOT)  budget rather                                                                    
than provided through a grant.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager responded  that she  could not  speak to  how DOT                                                                    
would  administer  the  funding.  She  explained  that  from                                                                    
DCCED's perspective, the funds  were granted directly to the                                                                    
village so that the village  could administer and manage the                                                                    
project itself. She reiterated that  she did not know if DOT                                                                    
used the same process.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  noted  that  there was  a  QR  code                                                                    
displayed on  slide 14 labeled "View  the Grants Dashboard."                                                                    
She stated  that she  did not have  her phone  available and                                                                    
asked for an  explanation of where the QR  code would direct                                                                    
users and what information would be available.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  responded  that she  thought  that  all                                                                    
Alaskans  should  be  able  to   access  the  dashboard  and                                                                    
immediately  view the  number of  live grants.  She remarked                                                                    
that she  was a visual  person and  she liked the  idea that                                                                    
any  Alaskan  could  scan  the   code  and  easily  see  the                                                                    
communities in which the grants  were located and view a map                                                                    
of each village or community  in Alaska. She stated that the                                                                    
dashboard   directed  users   to  the   department's  online                                                                    
community database, which she  believed was an underutilized                                                                    
resource. She  explained that the department  was working to                                                                    
consolidate  the  data  it   collected  and  distribute  the                                                                    
information more  broadly. She noted that  the dashboard had                                                                    
helped   inspire  aspects   of   the  department's   broader                                                                    
marketing  initiative and  encouraged  committee members  to                                                                    
review it.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Lager  added   that   the   dashboard  also   included                                                                    
information  about all  active  grants  administered by  the                                                                    
department.  The dashboard  allowed  users to  see both  the                                                                    
total amount  of each grant  and how much money  had already                                                                    
been  expended.  She explained  that  the  data was  updated                                                                    
daily and was a valuable resource.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson   commented  that   the   dashboard                                                                    
appeared to include over 740 grants.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager proceeded to slide  15 and presented a snapshot of                                                                    
DCRA's budget. She stated that  the budget changes for FY 26                                                                    
included two  technical adjustments  related to  base grants                                                                    
for ALSC  and AMSEA.  She explained that  one of  the grants                                                                    
was funded based  on a percentage formula,  which required a                                                                    
small  annual adjustment.  The  department  was also  making                                                                    
corrections  to  the funding  process  for  AMSEA to  ensure                                                                    
revenue  availability and  predictability for  grantees. The                                                                    
division's budget also  included a fiscal note  that had not                                                                    
been  incorporated  into the  FY  25  budget due  to  timing                                                                    
issues  near  the  end  of   the  legislative  session.  She                                                                    
explained  that several  pieces of  legislation were  moving                                                                    
quickly at the end of the  previous session and a few fiscal                                                                    
notes were inadvertently excluded.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager relayed  that the final item on the  slide was not                                                                    
within  the  department's  budget  but  was  included  under                                                                    
statewide items. She noted that  the item was still relevant                                                                    
because  DCRA administered  the  funding. The  FY 26  budget                                                                    
included $30 million to  capitalize the Community Assistance                                                                    
Fund   (CAF),   which   would   support   distributions   to                                                                    
communities in FY 27.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:14:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager proceeded  to slide  16 and  explained that  CBPL                                                                    
managed  the  administration  of 44  professional  licensing                                                                    
programs,  21  regulatory  boards, all  business  licensing,                                                                    
nicotine endorsements,  and corporations'  registration. She                                                                    
noted  that CBPL  was  likely the  division  with which  the                                                                    
highest number of Alaskans interacted  and it served a large                                                                    
number   of  residents.   She  reported   that  professional                                                                    
licensing  activity had  increased  by 55  percent over  the                                                                    
past 10 years and had caused CBPL to grow dramatically.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  for  more  information on  the                                                                    
events leading  up to the  significant increase  in business                                                                    
and professional  licenses between 2020 and  2022. She asked                                                                    
if the spike had been  related to the COVID-19 pandemic. She                                                                    
noted that there had been  subsequent tapering off of growth                                                                    
in more recent years.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager responded  that  the largest  change  was in  the                                                                    
business licensing  program. She  explained that  during the                                                                    
pandemic, licensing  fees had been suspended,  which allowed                                                                    
individuals  to obtain  business  licenses at  no cost.  She                                                                    
noted that  licenses could be  issued for either one  or two                                                                    
years, and many individuals  had chosen the two-year option.                                                                    
The  department  did  not  have   substantial  data  on  why                                                                    
licenses  were not  being renewed,  but it  expected that  a                                                                    
number  of  the  licenses  obtained   for  free  during  the                                                                    
pandemic  had not  been renewed,  which  contributed to  the                                                                    
downward trend.  She added that  a similar pattern  was seen                                                                    
on the  corporation side, where  registration fees  had also                                                                    
been  suspended  temporarily.  She noted  that  professional                                                                    
licensing had continued  to grow, although there  had been a                                                                    
small decline  in FY 24. Some  of the change was  likely due                                                                    
to professionals moving  in and out of the  state during the                                                                    
pandemic  and  needing to  be  licensed,  such as  traveling                                                                    
nurses. She stated that the  decrease in 2024 did not appear                                                                    
to be significant and overall activity remained strong.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   asked  for   an  overview   of  any                                                                    
particular  industry  that  had   shown  notable  growth  or                                                                    
decline in recent years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  responded that there had  been continued                                                                    
growth   in  nurse   licensing.  She   indicated  that   the                                                                    
department  had  placed  significant   focus  on  the  nurse                                                                    
licensure  compact, which  she viewed  as an  important step                                                                    
forward.  When she  was initially  hired, one  of the  first                                                                    
issues  the  governor identified  to  her  was the  need  to                                                                    
reduce licensing wait times. She  had been well aware of the                                                                    
challenges  as a  business owner  and  health care  provider                                                                    
herself.  She  had  personally  experienced  the  impact  of                                                                    
staffing  shortages  and the  community  at  large was  well                                                                    
acquainted  with   the  challenges  of  the   timeline.  She                                                                    
stressed that the situation had  improved and the department                                                                    
had made substantial progress since she was first hired.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  reported that  when  she  began at  the                                                                    
department,  wait   times  for  professional   licenses  had                                                                    
reached  13 to  14 weeks  and the  current average  was just                                                                    
over  four weeks.  The system  was not  perfect but  she was                                                                    
proud  of  the  team's  improvements.  She  noted  that  the                                                                    
department remained honest about  its limits. She viewed the                                                                    
nurse  licensure compact  as  a  strategic opportunity  that                                                                    
would  help   improve  wait  times.  She   stated  that  the                                                                    
department  estimated   approximately  30  percent   of  its                                                                    
licensing staff  time was  spent processing  nurse licenses.                                                                    
If the  state were to  join the  compact, the time  could be                                                                    
redirected  to   other  sectors.  For   example,  contractor                                                                    
licensing  was an  area in  which timeliness  was especially                                                                    
critical,  particularly during  Alaska's short  construction                                                                    
season.   She  emphasized   that  faster   licensing  helped                                                                    
businesses and strengthened the economy.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:19:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard remarked  that many  military spouses                                                                    
lived  in Alaska  and asked  why it  seemed so  difficult to                                                                    
adopt the  military spouses  compact. She  acknowledged that                                                                    
it was a  policy decision for legislators  but asked whether                                                                    
the department had been working  to understand the barriers.                                                                    
She asked  what the  department believed was  preventing the                                                                    
compact from being adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande responded  that she  would defer  to Ms.                                                                    
Lager  to   provide  more  specific  information.   She  had                                                                    
participated in related discussions  but could not currently                                                                    
recall the details.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that the  department would be  happy to                                                                    
follow up with more information.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Allard  stated   that  the   committee  had                                                                    
previously  discussed the  number  of  vacancies within  the                                                                    
department and the presenters had  indicated they would need                                                                    
to  follow  up  with  the  information.  She  asked  why  it                                                                    
continued  to  be  difficult for  commissioners  and  deputy                                                                    
commissioners  to provide  the  number  of vacant  positions                                                                    
when appearing  before the committee.  She asserted  that if                                                                    
she herself were  in the role, she would ensure  she had the                                                                    
number  readily  available.  She   was  concerned  that  the                                                                    
repeated  delays in  providing vacancy  data might  indicate                                                                    
that   the  department   would  not   follow  up   with  the                                                                    
information at all  and that the vacancy  dollars were being                                                                    
used  in other  areas of  the department.  She asked  if the                                                                    
department had  anyone available online to  read the vacancy                                                                    
number into the record.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  responded  that  she  did  not  have  any  other                                                                    
colleagues  online  who  could   provide  the  numbers.  She                                                                    
offered  reassurance  that  she  would follow  up  with  the                                                                    
information.  She noted  that  the  vacancy numbers  changed                                                                    
every day.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  confirmed   that  the  committee  would                                                                    
discuss the  information if it  was made available  prior to                                                                    
the meeting's adjournment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  stated  that  some  departments  had                                                                    
informed  her they  had  56  vacancies, including  positions                                                                    
that  had  remained  vacant  for the  past  12  months.  She                                                                    
thought  DCCED likely  had more  than 56  vacancies and  she                                                                    
wanted to know  the exact number of vacancies,  how long the                                                                    
positions were  unfilled, and what  was being done  with the                                                                    
associated  funds. She  emphasized  that  she wanted  budget                                                                    
cuts. She  was concerned  that the funds  might be  used for                                                                    
other  purposes   and  stated   that  the   public  deserved                                                                    
transparency.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked Ms.  Lager how  long she  had been                                                                    
with the State of Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that she  had worked for the  state for                                                                    
18  years and  had  served  within DCCED  for  just over  10                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked whether  it was correct that unused                                                                    
dollars typically lapsed back to the general fund.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager responded that it  depended on the funding source.                                                                    
She stressed  that the  department's personal  services line                                                                    
was  never  fully funded.  The  budget  included a  built-in                                                                    
vacancy  factor,  which assumed  that  some  level of  staff                                                                    
turnover would  occur due to  life circumstances  and hiring                                                                    
timelines. As  a result, the  department did not  fully fund                                                                    
personal services annually.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked if  dollars typically  lapsed into                                                                    
the general fund  if there were an unusually  high number of                                                                    
vacancies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager confirmed  that any  unspent general  funds would                                                                    
return to the general fund.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:23:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande added that her  team worked very hard and                                                                    
explained  that   the  scope  of  the   department  made  it                                                                    
difficult to always have immediate  access to specific data.                                                                    
The department was exceptionally  broad and its wide-ranging                                                                    
responsibilities  meant  she  often  had  shallow  depth  of                                                                    
knowledge in  many areas. She  credited her staff  for being                                                                    
as prepared  as possible.  She offered reassurance  that the                                                                    
department would  follow up with the  requested information,                                                                    
but  she emphasized  that the  question was  complex because                                                                    
vacancy  rates could  fluctuate based  on budgetary  changes                                                                    
and the addition of new positions.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  stated that when  she began in  her role                                                                    
as commissioner, the  department was in a  "death spiral" in                                                                    
the   aftermath  of   the  pandemic.   Some  divisions   had                                                                    
experienced  a  60 percent  increase  in  workload over  the                                                                    
course  of   a  ten-year  period  without   a  corresponding                                                                    
increase in  staffing. The increase  in workload had  led to                                                                    
staff burnout and  low morale, and employees  left for other                                                                    
opportunities.   She  reported   that  the   department  had                                                                    
stabilized staffing and received  legislative support to add                                                                    
new positions,  but the addition  of new  positions impacted                                                                    
vacancy statistics  depending on  when data  were collected.                                                                    
She  explained that  the vacancies  had  decreased, but  the                                                                    
addition of new  positions made it appear that  there was an                                                                    
increase in vacancies.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  emphasized  that  interpreting  vacancy                                                                    
data without  context could lead to  misleading conclusions.                                                                    
She explained that the  department's core divisions operated                                                                    
differently  from corporate  agencies. Vacancies  within the                                                                    
corporations' side  were sometimes intentionally  held open,                                                                    
which  could skew  totals when  all  divisions were  grouped                                                                    
together. She  stressed that the  vacancy rate for  the core                                                                    
divisions  would be  significantly  different  than that  of                                                                    
corporate  agencies. She  stated that  the department  would                                                                    
provide more detailed information in the follow up.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  responded that  the lapsing  of funds                                                                    
was not the core issue. She  stated that her concern was why                                                                    
the state  continued to "pro-fund"  positions if it  did not                                                                    
fully understand how vacancy-related  funds were being used.                                                                    
She  acknowledged the  department's hard  work but  remained                                                                    
unconvinced   that  the   current   funding  structure   was                                                                    
justified. She  emphasized that the public  deserved to know                                                                    
how  much  carryover  funding  was  associated  with  vacant                                                                    
positions and exactly where the money was being redirected.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson asked  what Representative  Allard meant                                                                    
by "pro-fund."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  responded  that  she  meant  funding                                                                    
forward.  She  questioned  why   future  funding  should  be                                                                    
allocated without greater clarity on vacancy data.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:27:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager moved  to slide 17 and stated  that the department                                                                    
was  proposing two  significant changes  within CBPL  for FY                                                                    
26. She explained that CBPL  had a large number of licensing                                                                    
programs  and was  a major  consumer  of regulations  review                                                                    
services from DOL. The rate  changed going into 2025 and the                                                                    
department was  adding licensing receipt authority  to cover                                                                    
the costs in 2026.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson stated  that  she  had watched  many                                                                    
presentations  from the  department over  the years  and had                                                                    
always  been  impressed by  CBPL's  level  of expertise  and                                                                    
employee   retention.  She   remarked   that  CBPL   managed                                                                    
significant  financial responsibilities  and demonstrated  a                                                                    
strong  understanding of  its operations  despite its  small                                                                    
size.  She noted  that Director  Sylvan Robb  often appeared                                                                    
before the committee and she  expressed her appreciation for                                                                    
the division's professionalism and institutional knowledge.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  thanked Representative  Johnson and  continued on                                                                    
slide  17. She  stated that  the  second item  on the  slide                                                                    
reflected a  fiscal note that  had not been included  in the                                                                    
FY 25  budget due to timing  issues at the end  of the prior                                                                    
legislative session.  She explained that the  item pertained                                                                    
to funding for professional counselors.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager moved to slide 18  and provided an overview of the                                                                    
Division  of Insurance.  She stated  that  the division  was                                                                    
responsible   for  regulating   the  insurance   market  and                                                                    
identifying  ways to  reduce costs  to consumers.  She noted                                                                    
that the  division was  a major  contributor to  the general                                                                    
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  remarked that she could  not refrain                                                                    
from recognizing  Director Lori Wing-Heier when  she saw her                                                                    
photo on  slide 18. She expressed  appreciation for Director                                                                    
Wing-Heier's expertise and thanked her for her service.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  appreciated  the comments.  She  stated                                                                    
that  Director  Wing-Heier  had   been  extremely  busy  but                                                                    
remained highly  effective in her role.  She emphasized that                                                                    
the director's  knowledge was exceptional  and that  she had                                                                    
saved  the  state  an estimated  $700  million  through  the                                                                    
Affordable  Care Act's  (ACA) Section  1332 waiver  program.                                                                    
She  thought that  Director Wing-Heier  had made  a uniquely                                                                    
significant contribution  to the state and  stated she would                                                                    
be interested  to know  if any other  Alaskan had  saved the                                                                    
state as much money as the director.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  referred to  the second  bullet point                                                                    
on  the   slide,  which  mentioned   maintaining  multi-year                                                                    
contractual actuarial  support. She asked whether  there was                                                                    
a specific  dollar amount associated  with the item  and how                                                                    
many years the support would cover.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded that the  department was  requesting $1                                                                    
million over  two years from licensing  receipts. She stated                                                                    
that  the request  mirrored the  structure used  in previous                                                                    
years.  She  explained  that the  department  was  currently                                                                    
receiving  actuarial support  through contracts,  which were                                                                    
more  expensive  than  maintaining  in-house  positions  and                                                                    
varied  in   cost  depending   on  timing.   The  department                                                                    
structured  the   funding  as  multi-year   and  overlapping                                                                    
funding  to ensure  that approximately  $1 million  would be                                                                    
available in  any given year  when bills were  received. She                                                                    
stated  that the  structure ensured  the department  had the                                                                    
funds to cover the costs when bills were due.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:31:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  moved to slide  19 and discussed the  Division of                                                                    
Investments.  She  stated  that there  were  no  significant                                                                    
budget  changes for  the division  in FY  26, but  she still                                                                    
wanted  to  highlight  the   division's  ongoing  work.  The                                                                    
division  administered  numerous  small loan  programs  that                                                                    
supported  projects throughout  Alaska, including  financing                                                                    
for  fishing  permits,  boat gear,  small  restaurants,  and                                                                    
forest  products. She  stated that  the  division offered  a                                                                    
variety of  programs that benefited  many Alaskans  and that                                                                    
more information was available on the department's website.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  proceeded to  slide 21  and detailed  AMCO, which                                                                    
regulated  Alaska's alcohol  and  marijuana industries.  She                                                                    
noted  that the  office was  almost entirely  funded through                                                                    
licensing   receipts   from   the  alcohol   and   marijuana                                                                    
industries. The main budgetary change  within AMCO for FY 26                                                                    
was increased authority to pay  for regulation review costs.                                                                    
In  addition,  the   office  requested  increased  licensing                                                                    
receipts to cover  higher legal expenses related  to DOL and                                                                    
the Office of Administrative  Hearings due to increased case                                                                    
volume.   The  department   was   excited   to  revise   the                                                                    
carryforward  language   AMCO  in  FY  26   to  ensure  that                                                                    
licensing receipts remained with  the program. She explained                                                                    
that  in previous  years, specialized  carryforward language                                                                    
had been used  to ensure the office could  repay the general                                                                    
fund  investment made  to establish  the marijuana  program.                                                                    
The repayment effort had been  fully completed by the end of                                                                    
FY 24 and  as a result, all licensing  receipts would remain                                                                    
within the program from FY 26 on.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  moved to  slide  22,  which covered  AOGCC.  She                                                                    
stated that  the commission served a  quasi-judicial role in                                                                    
balancing the competing demands of oil production and long-                                                                     
term  resource  recovery.   The  commission  had  identified                                                                    
capital funding  for orphaned  wells and  secured additional                                                                    
federal  funds  for   carbon-related  work.  The  department                                                                    
proposed   aligning  federal   receipt   authority  in   the                                                                    
operating  budget with  the anticipated  costs of  the grant                                                                    
awards. She  noted that the  carbon program was  complex and                                                                    
that the  state was in  the process of seeking  primacy over                                                                    
it  from  the  federal  government. She  reported  that  the                                                                    
process  was  taking  longer  than  originally  anticipated,                                                                    
which  was why  the department  had requested  an additional                                                                    
year of general  fund support. She stated  that revenue from                                                                    
the permitting process was expected to begin in FY 27.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  moved to  slide  23,  which discussed  RCA.  She                                                                    
remarked that each year she  learned something new about the                                                                    
commission's responsibilities. The only  change in the FY 26                                                                    
budget  was the  inclusion of  a fiscal  note that  had been                                                                    
omitted from the operating budget  in the previous year. She                                                                    
reiterated that  not all  notes were  included in  the final                                                                    
budget  in  the  prior  legislative session  due  to  timing                                                                    
issues and the consolidation of multiple fiscal notes.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  advanced to  slide 24,  which detailed  AGDC. She                                                                    
stated that the department  was requesting level funding for                                                                    
AGDC in FY 26, which  was consistent with the previous year.                                                                    
She noted that while there  was project activity for AGDC in                                                                    
the capital  budget, there were  no proposed changes  to the                                                                    
corporation's operating budget.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson noted  that there  had been  ongoing                                                                    
discussions about  potential funding for a  gasline project.                                                                    
She  understood that  such funding  might  not come  through                                                                    
AGDC, but through direct appropriations  or AIDEA. She asked                                                                    
whether  the department  would be  involved in  the process.                                                                    
She wondered whether the establishment  of a separate entity                                                                    
for a  gasline project  would require additional  funds from                                                                    
the department or  if the department would serve  as a pass-                                                                    
through administrator  for grants. She relayed  that she was                                                                    
trying  to better  understand how  the  department might  be                                                                    
impacted by future developments.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  responded  that the  mechanics  of  the                                                                    
process  had not  yet been  discussed. She  stated that  her                                                                    
understanding  from conversations  with  AIDEA  was that  if                                                                    
funding were provided through AIDEA,  it would be standalone                                                                    
and separate from DCCED. She  stated that there had not been                                                                    
any  discussion suggesting  that  the project  would be  the                                                                    
responsibility of the department.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked if  AIDEA  would  be able  to                                                                    
receive and use federal  funds as a sufficiently independent                                                                    
organization if  federal funds were  to come into  the state                                                                    
for  a gasline  project.  She noted  that  the question  was                                                                    
hypothetical  and that  there would  likely be  restrictions                                                                    
depending on  federal requirements.  She explained  that she                                                                    
was   attempting  to   anticipate  whether   any  additional                                                                    
organizational structure would be needed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  responded that  both AIDEA and  AEA were                                                                    
currently working  closely with  the developer  Glenfarne as                                                                    
well as  with the 8  Star Energy subsidiary. She  noted that                                                                    
the  situation was  complex. She  understood that  AIDEA had                                                                    
not typically  received federal funds, but  AEA had received                                                                    
federal grants and retained  federal granting authority. She                                                                    
stated that  the department  would continue  working closely                                                                    
with both  agencies to  determine whether  DCCED involvement                                                                    
would be necessary.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager added  the department had come  forward to request                                                                    
legislative authorization  when AGDC received  federal funds                                                                    
in the past.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:38:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  moved to  slide 25  which illustrated  the budget                                                                    
overview  for AEA.  She noted  that  recent legislation  had                                                                    
allowed AEA  to manage  its own positions  and as  a result,                                                                    
the  budget  included  a  number  of  technical  adjustments                                                                    
reflecting the transfer of positions  from AIDEA to AEA. She                                                                    
explained that the four boxes shown  at the top of the slide                                                                    
represented the  end results  for AEA's  different operating                                                                    
components.  The first  component was  Owned Facilities  and                                                                    
had  experienced  minimal  changes. The  component  included                                                                    
management of  assets such  as Bradley  Lake and  the Alaska                                                                    
Intertie  Transmission.  The   second  component  was  Rural                                                                    
Energy   Assistance  and   housed  AEA's   core  operations,                                                                    
including the director and program  managers. The Power Cost                                                                    
Equalization (PCE) component continued  to manage the annual                                                                    
distributions as  well as  accounting and  management costs.                                                                    
The  fourth  component  was Statewide  Project  Development,                                                                    
Alternative  Energy,  and  Energy  Efficiency  and  included                                                                    
federal  positions for  new federal  programs,  such as  the                                                                    
Infrastructure  Investment  and  Jobs Act  (IIJA)  and  Grid                                                                    
Resilience  and  Innovation  Partnerships  (GRIP)  personnel                                                                    
costs. She  explained that the  positions had been  added in                                                                    
prior legislative sessions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  stated that  AEA's FY  26 request  included three                                                                    
major items.  First, the department requested  general funds                                                                    
to cover  AEA's rent  costs. She  explained that  AEA shared                                                                    
facilities with  AIDEA and the  request represented  half of                                                                    
AEA's actual costs  in 2024. She noted that  AEA was working                                                                    
through  its  federally  approved cost  allocation  plan  to                                                                    
include building  costs, and the  department did  not expect                                                                    
the  request   to  recur  beyond   one  year.   Second,  the                                                                    
department  requested  an  additional $3.1  million  in  CIP                                                                    
receipts  which  was  considered  duplicate  authority.  She                                                                    
clarified that  duplicate authority  allowed AEA  to collect                                                                    
funds  from  capital projects  and  use  the collections  to                                                                    
support its  positions and operations.  She stated  that the                                                                    
request was  essentially a true-up  to ensure  all positions                                                                    
could be properly  funded. The third item was  a request for                                                                    
a fund  source change of  $710,000 from federal  receipts to                                                                    
PCE  program funds  to maintain  the circuit  rider program.                                                                    
She  explained   that  the   circuit  rider   positions  had                                                                    
previously been  funded through federal  grants administered                                                                    
by  the  Denali  Commission,  but the  federal  funding  had                                                                    
declined over time and the  department needed an alternative                                                                    
source to continue the program.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked Ms.  Lager  to  elaborate on  the                                                                    
third request involving the Denali Commission.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager   responded  that   the  Denali   Commission  had                                                                    
previously provided  federal funding to support  the circuit                                                                    
rider  program.  The  circuit rider  employees  traveled  to                                                                    
rural  communities,  assisted  with local  powerhouses,  and                                                                    
helped ensure continuity of  electrical services. The Denali                                                                    
Commission  had funded  the positions  over  the past  three                                                                    
years;  however,  the level  of  support  had declined  from                                                                    
$700,000  to approximately  $75,000  in  the current  fiscal                                                                    
year.  The department  had attempted  to bridge  the funding                                                                    
gap by piecing together  funds from related capital projects                                                                    
such  as bulk  fuel or  rural power  system upgrades,  which                                                                    
allowed  circuit riders  to work  on multiple  issues during                                                                    
community  visits.   An  ad  hoc  approach   was  no  longer                                                                    
sustainable because  CIP funding  had also decreased  due to                                                                    
reduced  federal  investment.   The  requested  fund  source                                                                    
utilizing  PCE   program  funds  was  intended   to  provide                                                                    
consistent  and  reliable  support  for  the  circuit  rider                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson  asked   whether  the   department  had                                                                    
received any objections to the proposed fund source change.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  responded in  the  negative.  She reported  that                                                                    
nearly all of  the communities that received  PCE funds were                                                                    
also served by the circuit  rider program. The funding shift                                                                    
aligned with  the interests of the  communities and directly                                                                    
supported the PCE program's objectives.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster noted  that there  was typically  an annual                                                                    
surplus  of funds  within the  PCE program.  He stated  that                                                                    
once  distributions were  made  to  communities, any  excess                                                                    
could flow  into the waterfall  mechanism. He  asked whether                                                                    
the  circuit rider  funding  qualified  under the  waterfall                                                                    
structure. He  asked for more  information on  the governing                                                                    
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager confirmed  that the  excess would  flow into  the                                                                    
waterfall  mechanism.  She  was  not certain  of  the  exact                                                                    
statute,  but  the  circuit rider  funding  qualified  as  a                                                                    
program  operations expense,  which was  the first  category                                                                    
funded  from  available  PCE surplus.  She  added  that  the                                                                    
waterfall also  allowed excess funds to  be allocated toward                                                                    
other rural energy priorities, such  as renewable energy and                                                                    
rural system upgrades.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:43:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson stated  that she  had heard  reports                                                                    
that  federal grant  funding for  charging stations  and the                                                                    
direct  current  (DC)  transmission   line  from  the  Kenai                                                                    
Peninsula might  have been  paused or  changed. She  did not                                                                    
expect full  details immediately but  asked if she  could be                                                                    
provided with an  update. She asked how  much the department                                                                    
had needed to adjust in  recent weeks due to federal funding                                                                    
developments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager responded  that AEA  Director  Curtis Thayer  had                                                                    
been heavily  engaged in managing the  issues. She confirmed                                                                    
that  the  federal  Electric  Vehicle  Infrastructure  (EVI)                                                                    
funding  had been  impacted and  that  the charging  station                                                                    
initiative was not moving forward  at the moment. She stated                                                                    
that IIJA funding and Inflation  Reduction Act (IRA) funding                                                                    
had  been   temporarily  paused.  She  added   that  the  DC                                                                    
transmission line project had not been impacted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager advanced  to slide  26 and  explained that  AIDEA                                                                    
remained  co-located  with  AEA, but  legislation  from  the                                                                    
prior  year   had  formally  separated  the   two  entities'                                                                    
personnel.  The  separation  resulted in  several  technical                                                                    
changes in the  FY 26 budget to  reflect the reorganization.                                                                    
She stated  that AIDEA's FY  26 budget included  the removal                                                                    
of   $8.9  million   in  duplicated   receipts,  which   had                                                                    
previously been  required because AEA paid  AIDEA for shared                                                                    
services. The  duplicate authority  was no  longer necessary                                                                    
due to  the shift of the  positions directly to AEA,  and it                                                                    
was  therefore removed.  She indicated  that AIDEA's  budget                                                                    
added  receipt  authority  to  accept   rent  from  AEA  and                                                                    
included $110,000 in AIDEA  receipts derived from investment                                                                    
earnings  to  align  the building  component's  expenditures                                                                    
with  projected   operating  costs.   She  noted   that  the                                                                    
adjustment  related to  both intent  language and  statutory                                                                    
requirements to clearly demonstrate facility costs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager proceeded  to slide 27 and relayed  that ASMI's FY                                                                    
26  budget reflected  two main  changes. First,  it included                                                                    
the  continuation  of  a   $10  million  multi-year  seafood                                                                    
marketing  appropriation, which  began  in FY  25 and  would                                                                    
continue  over   three  years.  The  second   change  was  a                                                                    
reduction   in   ASMI's   appropriated   seafood   marketing                                                                    
assessment  receipts. She  relayed that  ASMI's revenue  had                                                                    
been  declining  over time  as  the  seafood industry  faced                                                                    
economic  struggles. The  two requested  changes would  help                                                                    
ASMI  maintain a  relatively stable  marketing program  over                                                                    
the  next  three  years  as   it  planned  future  marketing                                                                    
strategies.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked if  the administration  wanted the                                                                    
legislature to  pass the appropriation increase  promptly to                                                                    
ensure that some of the funding could be spent in FY 25.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  responded in the affirmative.  She confirmed that                                                                    
the appropriation  had been included as  a supplemental item                                                                    
for FY  25. She  explained that ASMI  conducted much  of its                                                                    
marketing  activity during  the spring  and the  sooner ASMI                                                                    
could  be   notified  of  funding  availability,   the  more                                                                    
effectively it could secure favorable marketing contracts.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson commented that  the committee had learned                                                                    
a great deal about  the wide-ranging responsibilities of the                                                                    
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:46:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan remarked that  it was significant that                                                                    
Commissioner  Sande   and  Ms.   Lager  were   graduates  of                                                                    
Ketchikan  High School  and Juneau-Douglas  High School  and                                                                    
were leading the department.  She praised Commissioner Sande                                                                    
for  her success  in recruiting  high-potential Alaskans  to                                                                    
serve  on  her team.  She  noted  that  when she  was  first                                                                    
elected, Ms. Lager had stood out  as someone with a deep and                                                                    
trusted knowledge base. She stated  that RCA was complex and                                                                    
that  the   department  approached  it  with   calmness  and                                                                    
professionalism.  She was  impressed  with the  department's                                                                    
knowledge.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  thanked the  presenters and  stated that                                                                    
the meeting marked the conclusion  of the FY 26 departmental                                                                    
operating budget overviews.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  53  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB 55 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson reviewed the agenda for the following                                                                        
day's meeting.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HFIN DCCED Department Budget Overview 03.04.2025.pdf HFIN 3/4/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
HB 55
Attachment 1 - DCCED FY24 Actuals by Fund Source with Description.pdf HFIN 3/4/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
Attachment 2 - Vacant Positions Greater Than 6-Months as of 2-13-25 OMB.pdf HFIN 3/4/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
HFIN DCCED Follow-up 03.04.2025.pdf HFIN 3/4/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53