Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519
02/27/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE
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HOUSE BILL NO. 53 "An Act making appropriations for the operating and loan program expenses of state government and for certain programs; capitalizing funds; amending appropriations; making supplemental appropriations; making reappropriations; making appropriations under art. IX, sec. 17(c), Constitution of the State of Alaska, from the constitutional budget reserve fund; and providing for an effective date." HOUSE BILL NO. 54 "An Act making appropriations, including capital appropriations and other appropriations; making reappropriations; making appropriations to capitalize funds; and providing for an effective date." HOUSE BILL NO. 55 "An Act making appropriations for the operating and capital expenses of the state's integrated comprehensive mental health program; and providing for an effective date." HOUSE BILL NO. 56 "An Act making supplemental appropriations; making appropriations to capitalize funds; and providing for an effective date." HOUSE BILL NO. 85 "An Act making supplemental appropriations, reappropriations, and other appropriations; amending appropriations; capitalizing funds; repealing appropriations; and providing for an effective date." 1:37:01 PM ^OVERVIEW: FY 25 GOVERNOR'S SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET BY THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET 1:37:05 PM LACEY SANDERS, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, provided a PowerPoint presentation titled "FY2026 Governor Amended Budget: House Finance Committee," dated February 27, 2025 (copy on file). The presentation provided an overview of the amendments th transmitted on behalf of the governor on February 18 per AS 37.07.070 that required requests to be submitted to the th legislature by the 30 day. She began with an updated FY 26 fiscal summary that incorporated the amendments submitted the previous week (slide 2). The amendments included FY 25 supplemental requests and the FY 26 budget. FY 25 operating supplementals totaled $40 million in all funds, including $36.2 million in unrestricted general funds (UGF), for an operating supplemental total of $453 million. The submitted capital supplementals totaled a reduction of $1.9 million with an overall increase of $500,000 UGF. The supplemental total was $522.5 million of which $84.2 million was UGF. The total brought the overall deficit to $157.8 million. Ms. Sanders explained that the total numbers in the presentation were a combination of the supplementals presented earlier to the committee as well as the ones presented the past week. The operating amendments in the FY 26 budget totaled $300 million in all funds, including $32.3 million UGF. The capital supplementals totaled $12 million, including $11.6 million UGF, for a grand total of $312 million in all funds and $43.9 million UGF. The overall deficit was $1.56 billion (shown at the bottom of the table on slide 2). 1:40:11 PM Ms. Sanders moved to slide 3 titled "Operating Governor Amend Requests" by agency. She noted there were detailed spreadsheets in the back of members' packets with additional information (copy on file). The amended budget incorporated changes for the implementation of a department of agriculture in FY 26 established in Executive Order (EO) 136. Two pieces had been submitted, including the transfer of 37 existing positions and $7.2 million from the Department of Natural Resources (DNR); and an addition of $2.7 million for new positions and startup costs. She noted there had been changes in the past several days and the $2.7 million would be backed out to result in a neutral cost for EO 136. The administration was reevaluating vacant positions that could be utilized instead of adding to the budget. Ms. Sanders moved to operating amendment requests for the Department of Administration (DOA) on slide 3. There were two projects related to artificial intelligence (AI) initiatives. The first was to offer Microsoft Copilot 365 to 2,000 state employees, allowing them to be more productive in their work. The second was two short-term AI projects for the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) and DOA. The first was for DEC to improve its forms and permitting processes through the use of AI and the second was for DOA to utilize AI for payroll processes and forms improvements. There were two significant adjustments within the Department of Corrections (DOC). 1:42:45 PM Representative Stapp asked about the Microsoft Copilot AI. He remarked he had the free app on his phone. He imagined the cost to the state would not be free. He referenced the stated goal of improving performance and efficiency. He asked if the administration was looking to eliminate positions that would be unnecessary due to AI. Alternatively, he wondered if the idea was to enable employees to be more productive in their current employment. Ms. Sanders replied that the goal was to improve performance for employees to ensure they could be more productive. She elaborated that there were a lot of needs in the state and things took time; therefore, it would be beneficial if the timeliness of processing things could be improved. Representative Stapp asked what the employees would be doing with the program. Ms. Sanders responded that she could provide general examples. One thing was processing paperwork. She elaborated that currently people were filling out forms or spreadsheets manually. She detailed that if the use of AI could improve the processes and timeliness, it would be a benefit to employees. She explained that it could slow down processing time backlog. 1:44:34 PM Representative Stapp asked where he could find the version of the program the state would be paying for. He was interested in looking it up and reviewing the capabilities. Ms. Sanders replied that she did not have an answer on hand. She would have DOA follow up with a response. She continued with slide 3 and highlighted two significant adjustments in the DOC budget. The first was related to community residential centers (CRCs). She detailed that the CRC contracts were recently finalized, resulting in an increase of $1.4 million for FY 26. Additionally, there was a technical correction throughout the budget that hit DOC with a larger impact reflected as a $5.5 million change in the "Other" column. When the budget was submitted there were fund source changes associated with the Restorative Justice Account or "felon funds" (incarcerated felons that were no longer eligible to receive their Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD)). The calculation used in the budget only accounted for individuals who had actually applied instead of individuals who were eligible to receive the PFD. The technical correction fixed the amount of Restorative Justice funds appropriated in the budget. The item showed up in several places in the budget including the legislature's budget or fund capitalizations for the Crime Victim Compensation Fund. The correction ensured the budget followed the statutory formula on the amount available for appropriation. 1:46:49 PM Representative Bynum referenced the AI component that would cover 2,000 employees under the [Microsoft] licensing. He stated that AI was a new space and a very powerful tool if an employee was trained to use it effectively. He asked if there was anything done prior to specify the program would be launched with 2,000 employees as opposed to a smaller group to determine if the investment increased productivity. He pointed out that if an employee did not understand the capabilities of the technology or did not use the program, it would be something the state was paying for that sat on a desktop and did not get utilized. Ms. Sanders stated there were individuals currently using the AI program to see what capabilities existed. She stated that whether it was being documented in terms of the number of users and how it was being used were "one off cases." She explained that the increment would provide a tool and resource to agencies to start the pilot project type initiative to determine who could use it and where it could be used effectively and efficiently. She stated there were 15,000 state employees and not every employee would need Microsoft Copilot. She stated that a specific group of individuals would be utilizing the program as a tool to automate. Representative Bynum asked if it would be available for 2,000 employees and departments would have the ability to purchase the program or if it would be deployed out to 2,000 people without request. Ms. Sanders answered that the Office of Information Technology would have 2,000 licenses to work with agencies to determine who would receive them. She continued to review slide 3 and highlighted increments for DEED. The two primary items were similar to supplementals submitted related to the Alaska Performance Scholarships and the Alaska Education grants to ensure there was sufficient authority based on the passage of law in 2024 that increased the number of eligible applicants and the dollar value. She moved to an addition for the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) to assume federal authorization of the state program and administer and enforce the dredge and fill permitting program allowed under the Clean Water Act. The request was the first of a phased approach and would provide five positions necessary to develop the application process and start the development of the regulations and guidance. The administration recognized that five positions would not be able to fully operate the program and it would be back in the future years to discuss what the next steps would look like under a fully developed plan. 1:50:43 PM Ms. Sanders addressed the Department of Health (DOH) on slide 3. The most significant change was under the Medicaid program. She elaborated that Medicaid projections were thth provided on December 15 and February 12. There was an addition of $19.6 million in match and $220.6 million in federal receipts to bring the budget in line with current projections. There were several items adding funding to the base for the Division of Public Assistance (DPA) to continue its efforts processing applications and ensuring individuals receive timely application responses. There was $8.2 million split between $4.1 million in match and $4.1 million in federal receipts to continue the virtual contact center. The center handled approximately 20,000 to 24,000 eligibility calls per month. Additionally, there was a request to add 15 permanent full-time eligibility technicians to the base budget to continue processing applications, renewals, and reports of change to public assistance. The Department of Natural Resources (DNR) line on slide 3 showed the transfer funding from DNR to the new department of agriculture. 1:52:33 PM Representative Stapp asked about the 15 permanent full-time eligibility technicians. He asked if it was a lateral transfer from the long-term non-permanent positions that had been in the budget the last couple of years. He asked for the current vacancy rate above the factor for DPA technicians. He thought it had been on the high side. Ms. Sanders answered it was an addition of 15 positions in the base budget, not non-permanent positions moving forward. The department had seen more success in filling full-time long-term positions because of the job security. The department had 14 vacant eligibility technicians and the increment would bring the number to a total of 30 the department would be attempting to fill in the next several months. The hope was that the department could fill the remaining 14 positions in the current fiscal year and the next 15 in FY 26. 1:53:44 PM Ms. Sanders moved to the Department of Public Safety (DPS) on slide 3. The governor's amend request included a $1.6 million increase for the Village Public Safety Officer (VPSO) program for the Northwest Arctic Borough. The department had taken steps in the past several months to fill and retain its VPSO position including arming officers, providing increased salaries, addressing housing needs, and costs associated with equipment. She noted the request was included in the FY 26 budget and the FY 25 supplemental budget. Ms. Sanders continued on slide 3 and reviewed the University of Alaska line. The professional teaching program was transferring from the University to DEED. She noted that the slide did not show several pages included in members' backup documents (copy on file). She explained that the University submitted many transactions to align with intent language submitted by the legislature in 2024 under AS 37.07.020(e) and had to do with reflecting annual facility and maintenance operation and repair costs separate from the other costs within their budget. She noted that the items had a net zero cost. Lastly, under debt service and fund capitalizations there were two technical adjustments. The first was $1.3 million for the school fund to align the budget with the revenue forecast. The second was funding from the Power Cost Equalization (PCE) fund provided to the Community Assistance Program. Due to a miscalculation, the amount available was incorrect by $163,700. The governor's amendment provided a technical correction to the error. 1:56:12 PM Ms. Sanders moved to slide 4 showing the FY 26 capital budget amendment requests. There were two items for Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development (DCCED) including a $2.7 million increase in federal authority for the Alaska Energy Authority's Statewide Grid Resilience and Reliability Project. There was also a request for $600,000 to provide three organizational grants. Alaska statute allowed organizational grants to be provided when a new borough or municipality was created. There was a pending election for the Hoonah Borough that would receive the grant if it was certified. Co-Chair Josephson asked Ms. Sanders to repeat the name of the borough. Ms. Sanders replied, "Hoonah." She noted there was contingency language specifying that the money would not go out if the certification was not complete. 1:57:29 PM Ms. Sanders addressed a $1.5 a $1.5 million capital project under DEED for the Mount Edgecumbe High School. The project would provide for an elevator on the campus to bring a facility up to ADA compliance. She moved to an increment for DNR that was not included in the governor's original budget for the Natural Historic Preservation Fund federal grant program. She detailed it was a $2 million federal grant program with a $1.3 million match. There was a phase 2 request for DPS for the Fairbanks trooper post renovation completion. She elaborated that DPS received about $5 million to begin the two-phase renovation project. She detailed that the requested $6.2 million was needed to complete the project. There was a $2 million project under DOT for the state managed seaplane base and harbor facility maintenance. She explained that seaplane bases and harbors were not covered under the state's deferred maintenance program and significant electrical work needed to be completed at several harbors in addition to other repair needs. Representative Stapp asked why the seaplane harbors were not under the deferred maintenance umbrella. Ms. Sanders answered that deferred maintenance included things like buildings and things like state runways, seaplane bases, and harbors were typically excluded. She stated there could be a conversation about including those items, but currently deferred maintenance was limited to physical facilities. She noted that the list could grow if the other things were added. Representative Stapp asked if there were any other things the state owned that were technically not facilities that needed preventative maintenance and deferred maintenance. Ms. Sanders answered state owned runways. She thought they could come up with additional items as they worked through agencies needing to do maintenance to their facilities. 2:00:53 PM Ms. Sanders addressed FY 25 operating supplemental requests on slide 5. The first item fell under DCCED and was a reversal of $50 million requested in the fast track supplemental to AIDEA. She explained that when the appropriation was first submitted, timing on the final investment decision (FID) was uncertain and anticipated it could occur within the fiscal year. The timeframe was revised and expected to take up to 24 months, which removed the urgency surrounding the appropriation. Representative Stapp asked if the legislature was still supposed to backstop the funding or if the cost was being pushed out into the future a couple of years. Ms. Sanders responded that AIDEA had $50 million set aside for the intended purpose. She stated her understanding that the backstop was still in place based on what AIDEA had. Representative Stapp asked if the state was not reimbursing AIDEA anymore because AIDEA could use its own receipt authority. Ms. Sanders replied that no backstop would be provided at the present time. Representative Hannan understood the AIDEA reversal but observed there was $225,000 remaining in other funding. She asked what the increment pertained to. 2:03:12 PM Ms. Sanders answered there was a separate item related to AEA. She explained that when the budget was submitted, it included a project submitted as a reappropriation for data library administration hosting, expansion, and digitization. After talking with LFD, it had been determined the item was not a reappropriation and it should have come from an emerging energy technology fund. The increment was a $225,000 direct appropriation instead of a reappropriation. Representative Hannan asked if the fund lived within AIDEA or AEA. Ms. Sanders answered that it was AEA and separate from AIDEA. 2:04:24 PM Ms. Sanders advanced to the operating supplemental increment for DOC on slide 5. There was a $7.5 million fund source change from federal receipts to state general funds. The change was also reflected in the FY 26 budget. A change made by the U.S. Marshals resulted in fewer federal mandays reducing federal collections in both fiscal years. The item brought the budget in line with expectations of what would not be collected. There was a $3 million request Department of Family and Community Services (DFCS) similar to the FY 26 budget, to ensure continued operations at the Alaska Psychiatric Institute (API). She detailed that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) reduced the disproportionate share hospital (DSH) allocations nationally, which reduced the federal funds the state could collect and required an increase of $3 million to continue operations. She addressed items for the Department of Health (DOH). The first was $5.9 million within DOH and the second was $5.9 million under special appropriations. She explained that DOH was officially notified by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) regarding the state's FY 23 error rate for the Supplemental Assistance Nutrition Program (SNAP). She detailed that the situation resulted in a penalty of $11.9 million. There was an option for the state to pay half of the penalty and invest the remaining half in new investments to improve the state's processes. The increment shown on the DOH line on slide 5 reflected the investment for one-time technology improvements to target increased efficiency, improve accuracy, and streamline processes. She stated there was an appropriation under the Department of Law (DOL) to pay the penalty of $5.9 million. She elaborated that in May of 2021 the Department of Health and Social Services experienced a cybersecurity attack. As a result, the department reviewed all lapsing balances to identify $10 million that could be encumbered in the accounting system to address any potential liability for fines incurred due to the event. There was no longer a potential for a fine and the request was to reappropriate the $10 million to meet a portion of the reinvestment cost as well as the penalty due. The proposal required $1.9 million to make up the difference between the $11.9 million and the $10 million available in the reappropriation. 2:08:08 PM Representative Galvin stated it was the first time she had heard about the state being fined by the federal government for not being an efficient passthrough of federal funds for SNAP. Ms. Sanders agreed. Representative Galvin asked when the state had learned about the fine. Ms. Sanders answered that she had learned about it one month back. She stated it covered the applications for the FY 23 time period. Representative Galvin recalled that in 2022 and 2023 the legislature had heard about the significant backlog from the department and the legislature had asked what it could do to help. She stated there was very little other than a few positions that had been requested and a little help with an old computer software system. She stated that she was befuddled by the situation because the legislature had made an earnest ask about how to address the situation. She remarked that it was one thing to be worried about getting fined by the federal government, but it was another thing to know that children and families were needing food. She understood the governor offered something through the Food Bank that was helpful in an emergency situation. She noted it was one-tenth of the funding going out through SNAP. She stressed that it was the legislature's job to make sure systems were fully funded in order for the implementation to be thorough and efficient and certainly, so the state did not get fined $11 million. She asked if they were accomplishing what was needed. The legislature had recently been told there was still a backlog. She was concerned that the $6 million [going to new investments] was not enough and that the state was getting fined. She was upset the legislature was unable to do its job because it did not have sufficient information to do it well and now the state was getting fined. She found it deeply concerning. Co-Chair Josephson shared the concern. Ms. Sanders answered that there were investments made and 30 non-permanent positions added. There had been significant adds in 2024 to stand up the virtual contact center. Additionally, there were IT improvements and funding, and the department was working hard to get the changes implemented and available to residents. She understood the concern with an $11.9 million fine. She recognized it was a big number. 2:12:41 PM Representative Galvin knew there were some options the state could have taken to give out SNAP cards instead of going through the backlog line. She highlighted that the state had some options that other states were doing to avoid getting fined. She wondered why Alaska had not made the same decision, which would have avoided the current situation. Ms. Sanders answered that there were steps taken by the state. She was not an expert in the area and did not want to make inaccurate statements on the record. She deferred the question to DOH. PAM HALLORAN, ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, replied that the department shared the concerns. She explained that the situation started prior to COVID-19 when a previous director decided against doing all of the steps required to certify, including the interview. In 2004 [2024] the department reported to the House Finance Committee that it had opted to waive the interview process in order to get food into people's hands. She elaborated that it was a decision made by the department's leadership. A couple of months after that time, the department had been able to get caught up. In the meantime, there were a number of improvements the department had made. She could follow up with more detail. Representative Stapp thought it was necessary to clarify what was being discussed. He stated that the fine was due to a payment error rate that occurred because the state gave out food stamps to people who were not eligible (i.e., because there was a backlog, food stamps had been given out to everyone, which was the reason the state was being fined). He asked if his statements were accurate. Ms. Halloran answered that they continued food stamps for people who were already receiving food stamps. She clarified that there had not been a free-for-all of handing out food stamps. She elaborated that the stamps had gone to eligible Alaskans. The department was required to recheck eligibility and it opted not to in order to renew their benefit. Representative Stapp stated his understanding that the state was required to check eligibility, but because of the backlog the department had waived eligibility to ensure people received food stamps. He asked for verification it was the reason the state was being fined. Ms. Halloran answered affirmatively. 2:16:38 PM Co-Chair Foster thought it went back to his point that there were not enough people processing the papers. He stated that the fines went back to 2023 and his office was receiving calls daily in 2024 and 2025 and there were not enough people working in the division to process the papers. He considered that if the fines were from 2023, he foresaw there would likely be more fines coming in the future. He was glad Representative Galvin had highlighted the issue because it was likely one of the biggest things his office had been dealing with. He provided history of the positions. In 2021, the governor proposed cutting 101 positions in public assistance. The House had funded all 101 positions, the Senate had cut the funding back to 50 positions, and the governor vetoed all 101 positions. He noted that 30 positions had been added back in the past several years. He believed the FY 26 budget included a proposal to cut $8 million and 30 positions. He asked Ms. Sanders for detail. Ms. Sanders answered that the $8 million was one-time funding added in the budget the previous year. She explained that one-time items were reversed out of the budget. There was a request to add 15 permanent positions back to the base. Co-Chair Foster was glad to hear it. He had a meeting with the commissioner about the topic and he understood she was very supportive of trying to get it taken care of. He stated that his heartstrings went out to the individuals who had gone weeks and months [without food assistance]. He shared that he had received an email from a constituent the previous day stating that she had kids and had been unable to get assistance for good. The constituent had asked how they were going to eat. He felt like he wanted to send money to the woman. 2:19:21 PM Ms. Sanders continued addressing operating supplemental requests on slide 5. She moved to the Department of Law (DOL) and highlighted a $1 million multiyear appropriation. She detailed that labor relations moved from DOA to DOL. Formerly, there had been a multiyear appropriation to DOA to contract for assistance with negotiations in the bargaining unit agreements. The prior appropriation had been expended. As labor relations was implemented in DOL there was a request to bring back the $1 million appropriation in order to move forward with getting bargaining agreements done timely. There was a $1.6 million request under DPS for the Northwest Arctic Borough's VPSO program. Co-Chair Schrage referenced the DPS supplemental and the fact that the state had already hired VPSOs in the Northwest Arctic Borough. He asked why the increment was in the supplemental. Ms. Sanders answered that it was a grant to the community beyond the standard VPSO program. She explained that the community had taken steps to expand the costs needed within their VPSO program including increasing salaries, arming VPSOs, and increasing the number. The grant provided additional funds to the community due to its success in growing the program and retaining officers. Co-Chair Schrage thought the grant was generally given first before communities hired officers and other improvements. He was confused about why the community had hired the VPSOs and the state was retroactively providing the grant. He trying to understand the process better, but he also expressed concern and asked if a community was able to act on behalf of the state and obligate state funds without the legislature having to appropriate the funds ahead of time. Ms. Sanders answered that the community took actions to increase its program and it had an associated cost. The community had asked for support in providing the program and the increased cost was a result. Co-Chair Schrage asked if the community communicated its intent to do so ahead of time or if the state was only notified after the action had been taken. Ms. Sanders replied that she could not speak to what the community did or did not do. The request had been brought forward and public safety was a priority of the governor. The administration wanted to see the VPSO program succeed to ensure the needs of communities could be met. 2:23:00 PM Representative Hannan asked if there would be an FY 26 amendment in the same amount. Ms. Sanders replied there was an identical amount in the FY 26 budget. Representative Bynum referenced the VPSO program and timing for funding. He referenced Ms. Sanders's statement that public safety was a priority of the governor. He asked about the measure of success. He wondered if it was hiring and retaining people or some other metric. Ms. Sanders responded that the efficacy was evidenced by the successful retaining and recruiting in the VPSO program. She shared that the last she had heard from the VPSO program and DPS was that all of the public safety officer positions were filled. She highlighted it was a big feat, especially in some of the rural communities across the state. There had been a history of a lot of turnover in the positions. She stated it was a success and public safety was a priority of the governor. 2:24:52 PM Co-Chair Schrage understood public safety was a priority of the administration and that the Northwest Arctic Borough had been successful in increasing VPSOs, which he believed was a great thing. He voiced concerns about the way the increment transpired. Given that public safety was a priority of the governor's, he asked if the administration was encouraging all communities to hire everyone they could. He asked if there was an increment in the FY 26 budget to account for the hiring of some unknown number of VPSOs. He asked how he was supposed to predict the costs for the coming year if the legislature was informed of new hires after the fact. He noted that public safety was also a priority of his and he was encouraged to hear there were new VPSOs; however, in a constrained fiscal environment he was concerned the state was allowing action to take place with no appropriation from the legislature and the legislature was expected to foot the bill for the cost after the fact. He stated his understanding that if the legislature rejected the increment, the individuals would be fired. He asked how to deal with it moving forward. Ms. Sanders answered that it was a grant to the community. She remarked that the legislature had the power of appropriation and if the funds were not provided it would be incumbent on the community to determine what moved forward. She stated she would not say people were going to get fired. There was a request in the FY 26 budget for an additional 15 VPSOs across the state. The administration was addressing the growth in the next fiscal year and was continuing to see increases in the program. She clarified that the request for FY 26 was either 10 or 15 positions. Co-Chair Josephson recognized Representative Chuck Kopp in the room. He asked about an Alaska Vocational Technical Center (AVTEC) issue under the Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DLWD). Ms. Sanders answered that the increment pertained to a recalculation of the Technical Vocational Education Program (TVEP). There were additional receipts available for distribution and the item showed up in DEED, DLWD, and the University. She moved to fund capitalizations at the bottom of slide 5. The first item added an additional $11 million to the Disaster Relief Fund, bringing total requests for FY 25 to $29 million. The request for FY 26 was $13 million. There were two significant increases and notifications received recently including $15 million associated with the Merbok storm on Alaska's west coast and an additional increase for the Mat-Su winter storm. The total request covered the costs associated with the storms and provided $5 million to address any disasters in the next couple of months. The second item was under the fire fund and included $7 million to address the upcoming fire season and $3 million for the closeout of the FY 2024 fire season. 2:28:38 PM Ms. Sanders turned to capital supplemental requests on slide 6. The two increments included a named recipient grant to the Blood Bank of Alaska to finalize the certification of the donor testing laboratory that would flow through DCCED and a technical correction for the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (AOGCC) data management project to break the project into two phases to address receipts collected in the current year and receipts utilized in a future year. Co-Chair Josephson remarked that the state was not in a position to afford the increments in the governor's amended budget. He noted the total including the indebtedness was about $150 million. He could think of one way to fund the items. He realized the legislature was the appropriating body and ultimately decided funding sources. He asked if the administration had any other guidance or wanted to participate in finding funding sources to pay the bills. Ms. Sanders answered affirmatively. She stated that the current proposed budget drew from the Constitutional Budget Reserve (CBR). She relayed that the governor was willing to have conversations about what the future may look like recognizing that the current fiscal situation was not looking great and there were limited resources to address the various needs. Representative Hannan referenced that the supplemental capital request for the Blood Bank. She stated that the entity had received state funds for the specific purpose several years in a row. She asked if there were cost overruns. She wondered why the item was a supplemental request as opposed to an FY 26 capital request. Ms. Sanders answered that it was to get funding to the Blood Bank as quickly as possible in order to finalize the project. Representative Hannan asked if the Blood Bank had underestimated the cost by $500,000 or exceed their expected cost by $500,000. She highlighted that the legislature had provided funding for the item for the past three years. Ms. Sanders answered it was the last piece of the total request that was broken into three phases. Representative Hannan stated it was a little frustrating. She stated the legislature had been generous with the Blood Bank, but no information was being provided about the reason for the additional increment. She elaborated that there had been numerous funding requests and the legislature kept being told the facility would be open soon and there would be testing in Alaska instead of paying to ship [blood samples] out. She was confused about the reason for a supplemental item. She underscored that it had not been a year since the legislature appropriated money for the final total cost of the project and now there was a request for another $500,000. 2:32:33 PM Representative Allard asked how to explain doing an $83.6 million supplemental in times of a deficit. Ms. Sanders answered there were urgent needs to be addressed such as the Disaster Relief Fund and the ability to respond [to disasters]. There were currently reserves available in the CBR to address the urgent needs of Alaskans. She stated that trying to prioritize the needs was not an easy task. Representative Stapp was curious about the manday dispute with the DOC and U.S. Marshals. He stressed that $7.5 million was a substantial number of mandays to not be able to be billables. He asked whose responsibility it was when related to federal prisoners. He would take the question offline. HB 53 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further consideration. HB 54 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further consideration. HB 55 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further consideration. HB 56 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further consideration. HB 85 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further consideration. 2:34:03 PM AT EASE 2:35:19 PM RECONVENED