Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

02/26/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:33:54 PM Start
01:35:03 PM Overview: Fy26 Department of Education and Early Development Budget
03:25:13 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+= HB 53 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 55 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY26 Department Budget by Department TELECONFERENCED
of Education and Early Development
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     making  reappropriations;  making appropriations  under                                                                    
     art.  IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution  of  the State  of                                                                    
     Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 55                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: FY26 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND EARLY                                                                             
DEVELOPMENT BUDGET                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:35:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEENA  BISHOP,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  EDUCATION  AND                                                                    
EARLY  DEVELOPMENT, introduced  the PowerPoint  presentation                                                                    
"Department  of  Education   and  Early  Development  FY2026                                                                    
Governor's Budget  Overview" dated  February 26,  2025 (copy                                                                    
on  file).  She  began  on  slide 2  and  relayed  that  the                                                                    
Department  of  Education  and  Early  Development's  (DEED)                                                                    
vision was to prepare  students with the necessary knowledge                                                                    
and skills to achieve their  goals after they leave the K12                                                                     
system. She  stated that the department  maintained a strong                                                                    
vision for  students. She  advanced to  slide 3  and briefly                                                                    
referenced  the   department's  statutory  responsibilities,                                                                    
which were  listed on  the slide. She  continued to  slide 4                                                                    
and  shared  that  the department's  work  continued  to  be                                                                    
grounded in  Alaska's Education Challenge, which  had been a                                                                    
nearly  decade-long   collaborative  effort  to   shape  the                                                                    
state's   educational  priorities.   She  stated   that  the                                                                    
initiative focused on five strategic priorities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  advanced to slide 5  which outlined the                                                                    
structure  of  the presentation.  She  would  begin with  an                                                                    
organizational overview.  She indicated that she  would then                                                                    
turn the presentation over to  her colleague for a financial                                                                    
summary and other high-level budget  items. She continued to                                                                    
slide 6  which included  a list  of definitions  of acronyms                                                                    
that were commonly used by the department.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop continued to  slide 7 and explained that                                                                    
the  department operated  under the  authority of  the State                                                                    
Board of  Education, which she reported  to as commissioner.                                                                    
Within DEED, she oversaw  Deputy Commissioner Karen Morrison                                                                    
and  Director Kathy  Moffitt of  the Division  of Innovation                                                                    
and  Education Excellence.  She  noted  that the  department                                                                    
included   several  divisions,   commissions,  and   boards,                                                                    
including the Alaska  State Council on the  Arts (ASCA), the                                                                    
Professional Teaching  Practices Commission (PTPC),  and the                                                                    
Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education (ACPE).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop advanced  to  slide 8  and stated  that                                                                    
there were teams within each  division that were responsible                                                                    
for various  functions and programs. She  encouraged members                                                                    
to  examine  the  chart  on  the slide  to  gain  a  clearer                                                                    
understanding  of the  department's operations.  She relayed                                                                    
that  the Division  of Innovation  and Education  Excellence                                                                    
(DIEE)  encompassed a  range of  programs and  outcomes. She                                                                    
moved to slide 9 which  included detailed information on the                                                                    
commissions  and boards  within  DEED. She  then turned  the                                                                    
presentation over to  the department's acting administrative                                                                    
services director.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:38:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MONIQUE  SIVERLY, ACTING  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES  DIRECTOR,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND  EARLY DEVELOPMENT, continued on                                                                    
slide 10 and  stated that the department's  total budget was                                                                    
$1.6 billion.  She noted that the  most significant decrease                                                                    
would be seen on slide  13, which covered school finance and                                                                    
facilities.  She  relayed  that  in the  pie  chart  labeled                                                                    
"expenditures,"   the   green  section   represented   funds                                                                    
directed toward  public education  in Alaska. The  pie chart                                                                    
labeled "divisions" illustrated  how funding was distributed                                                                    
by division.  She explained that funding  for K12  education                                                                    
was based on average daily  membership (ADM), which would be                                                                    
discussed further in the following slides.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Silverly  advanced  to slide  12,  which  outlined  the                                                                    
components within the various  divisions. She explained that                                                                    
the   executive    administration   budget    included   the                                                                    
Commissioner's  Office and  the  State  Board of  Education,                                                                    
both of  which provided guidance, policy,  and motivation to                                                                    
departmental  employees  and  school districts.  She  stated                                                                    
that   the  executive   administration  budget   totaled  $2                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked if  members were  comfortable with                                                                    
the presentation's pace.  He stated that he  liked the speed                                                                    
but acknowledged that members might have questions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  stated that she would  have questions                                                                    
but  was   happy  to  hold   them  until  the  end   of  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson  indicated   that  members   could  ask                                                                    
questions during the presentation if desired.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  noted  that  there  was  substantial                                                                    
growth  in "other"  funds  on  slide 12  between  the FY  24                                                                    
actuals  and the  FY 25  management plan.  She asked  for an                                                                    
explanation of the increase.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Silverly  responded  that the  slide  displayed  FY  25                                                                    
management plan  authority, whereas FY 24  figures reflected                                                                    
actual expenditures.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if the department  was on track                                                                    
to use the  full authority granted for FY 25  and whether it                                                                    
would need the same level in FY 26.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Silverly replied that she would follow up with details.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  asked  where  the  department  would                                                                    
recommend  cuts  within  the  state's  operating  budget  to                                                                    
support the requested increase in DEED's operating budget.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Silverly   responded  that   she   did   not  have   a                                                                    
recommendation at the moment.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop added  that the figures shown  for FY 24                                                                    
reflected actual expenditures and  that the FY 25 management                                                                    
plan  showed  authorized  amounts. She  explained  that  the                                                                    
department had authorization to  fill certain positions that                                                                    
remained  vacant, such  as a  deputy commissioner  role. She                                                                    
noted that the vacancies  contributed to differences between                                                                    
actual and  authorized amounts. She asked  if Representative                                                                    
Allard was asking about the cuts for the following year.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard acknowledged  the state's tight budget                                                                    
and  limited  funds  and explained  that  her  question  was                                                                    
intended   to   be  general.   She   wanted   to  know   the                                                                    
commissioner's personal opinion as  a taxpayer on where cuts                                                                    
might  be  made  in  the state  budget  to  accommodate  the                                                                    
requested increase in DEED's operating budget.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:42:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded that  she would follow up with                                                                    
more  information.  She  was  not   up  to  speed  on  other                                                                    
department's  budgets and  was  uncertain  where other  cuts                                                                    
could be made.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard stated  that  the  response would  be                                                                    
helpful.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  referred to  slide 12 and  asked whether                                                                    
the  executive administration  component of  the budget  was                                                                    
only growing by approximately $55,000.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Silverly responded in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  referred to  the pie chart  on slide                                                                    
11 and  asked if  the $1.2 billion  section in  light yellow                                                                    
reflected the  total base student  allocation (BSA)  for the                                                                    
previous year  or if other  components were included  in the                                                                    
section.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Silverly  responded that the yellow  section referred to                                                                    
K12 district support and reflected the ADM.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  asked if  the yellow section  of the                                                                    
pie  chart would  increase if  the BSA  were increased.  She                                                                    
asked  if the  other  sections would  increase similarly  or                                                                    
remain relatively the same.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop  responded   that  if  the  legislature                                                                    
increased only the  K12  support through the  BSA, the other                                                                    
components  would  likely  decrease  in  proportion  if  the                                                                    
overall  budget remained  fixed.  She  explained that  other                                                                    
budget components  contained small  increases, such  as $1.5                                                                    
million  for  career  and technical  education  (CTE),  $1.5                                                                    
million for teacher recruitment  and retention, and $120,000                                                                    
for a pilot nutrition services  program. She stated that the                                                                    
requested  changes to  the governor's  budget within  DEED's                                                                    
proposal  were  minimal  compared to  other  proposals.  She                                                                    
clarified   that  other   divisions  such   as  DIEE   would                                                                    
experience minimal differences.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked   if  the  BSA  distributions                                                                    
within  the   district  support  portion   were  effectively                                                                    
directly  allocated   to  districts.   She  asked   if  DEED                                                                    
exercised  direct oversight  over the  other portion  of the                                                                    
pie  chart,   which  reflected  the   department's  internal                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded in  the affirmative. She noted                                                                    
that the  district support funds were  primarily distributed                                                                    
directly  to school  districts and  that DEED's  operational                                                                    
budget  represented the  smaller portion  of the  pie chart.                                                                    
The data  provided by  the Office  of Management  and Budget                                                                    
(OMB)  confirmed that  DEED was  one of  the three  smallest                                                                    
agencies  in  state government  in  terms  of staffing.  She                                                                    
stated that  the majority of  the work occurred  in Alaska's                                                                    
53 school  districts, not within  the department.  She noted                                                                    
that  the other  two smallest  agencies were  the Governor's                                                                    
Office and  the Department of Military  and Veterans Affairs                                                                    
(DMVA).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked  if  the  $1.2  billion  K-12                                                                    
district  support  figure  was  based on  the  October  2025                                                                    
student count and  if there was any  updated enrollment data                                                                    
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Bishop  responded   that  the   $1.2  billion                                                                    
projection  was based  on enrollment  estimates provided  by                                                                    
districts.  She explained  that under  current statute,  the                                                                    
actual  BSA  figure  would  be   determined  by  the  20-day                                                                    
enrollment  count in  October,  but the  current budget  was                                                                    
based  on  the  projections  submitted in  November  by  the                                                                    
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:47:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  thought it  was important  to provide                                                                    
the   public  with   more  context   when  using   the  term                                                                    
"Innovation  and Education  Excellence."  She asked  whether                                                                    
the  DIEE portion  of  the pie  chart  represented the  work                                                                    
taking place within the DEED building in Juneau.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded in the affirmative.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin understood  that DIEE's work primarily                                                                    
involved determining  how dollars flowed to  schools as well                                                                    
as managing the parameters for  grant and federal funds. She                                                                    
asked whether her understanding was accurate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  by requesting  to return  to                                                                    
slide  8. She  noted that  the slide  showed the  division's                                                                    
areas  of work,  including Student  and School  Achievement,                                                                    
which encompassed  implementation of  the Alaska  Reads Act,                                                                    
teacher certification, and  early learning coordination. She                                                                    
stated  that  the  Early Learning  Coordination  Office  had                                                                    
approximately  three employees.  She noted  that staff  also                                                                    
supported pre-kindergarten grants and  CTE grants. She added                                                                    
that  additional employees  worked  on facilitating  federal                                                                    
grants.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked how  many individuals  from the                                                                    
Juneau  office were  delivering the  services listed  on the                                                                    
slide.  She  understood  that most  staff  were  located  in                                                                    
Juneau. She  asked how current  staffing levels  compared to                                                                    
staffing levels 15 years ago.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that  she did  not have  the                                                                    
specific staffing numbers on hand.  She stated that staffing                                                                    
had decreased significantly over  time. Some employees shown                                                                    
on  the earlier  slide were  part  of ACPE,  and the  acting                                                                    
director  was available  to provide  additional detail.  She                                                                    
stated  that  approximately  50  positions  were  lost  when                                                                    
investment responsibilities  were transferred to  an outside                                                                    
agency. Overall, the department  had fewer employees than it                                                                    
had five years earlier.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  stated that she had  recently visited                                                                    
the  Juneau office  and the  building appeared  almost empty                                                                    
compared to previous years when  it appeared to be full. She                                                                    
thought that changes  in staffing had occurred  not only due                                                                    
to  ACPE   but  also  due   to  the  loss   of  subject-area                                                                    
specialists who had previously  supported Alaska's 53 school                                                                    
districts. She  observed that  the specialists  had assisted                                                                    
smaller  and  more  remote  districts  with  science,  math,                                                                    
civics,  home  economics,   social-emotional  learning,  and                                                                    
other subjects.  Some support remained, such  as CTE support                                                                    
and  combined  science and  math  specialists,  but in  some                                                                    
cases, there  was only one  support person assisting  in one                                                                    
subject across all 53 districts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin emphasized  that historical  staffing                                                                    
reductions  were  significant,  and   she  requested  to  be                                                                    
provided  with  staffing  data.  She  understood  that  some                                                                    
districts  might now  rely on  online  resources to  replace                                                                    
prior  departmental support,  but  the  loss of  state-level                                                                    
expertise was  a significant change. She  suggested that the                                                                    
shift could  be attributed to  a policy change, a  change in                                                                    
philosophy,  or   funding  constraints.  She   stressed  the                                                                    
importance   of  recognizing   there   were  fewer   helpful                                                                    
resources available for students.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  observed  that  there  was  a  nearly                                                                    
$400,000  discrepancy between  actual  expenditures and  the                                                                    
management plan on slide 12.  He understood that there was a                                                                    
change  of  two  full-time  positions, but  he  thought  the                                                                    
discrepancy  seemed high  for only  two positions.  He asked                                                                    
for an explanation of the discrepancy.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  suggested that Ms. Silverly  respond to                                                                    
the question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:53:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Silverly responded  that  two  full-time positions  had                                                                    
been  added.   The  funding  for  the   first  position  was                                                                    
available  within  FY 24,  but  a  technical adjustment  was                                                                    
required,  and the  position was  deleted and  reestablished                                                                    
under a  different funding code.  The second was  a research                                                                    
analyst   position.   She   confirmed  that   the   $400,000                                                                    
discrepancy  was not  simply because  of wages  for the  two                                                                    
positions,  but  also   represented  interagency  authority,                                                                    
which was not fully utilized each year.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp  stated   that  he   appreciated  the                                                                    
response,  but it  did  not clarify  the  reason behind  the                                                                    
$400,000 discrepancy. He  requested that further information                                                                    
be provided  in a follow  up. He commented that  the funding                                                                    
still  involved  undesignated  general funds  (UGF)  despite                                                                    
being classified as interagency authority.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard asked  for job  descriptions for  the                                                                    
two positions discussed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  relayed that she  remained interested                                                                    
in the growth  in the other funding category  between the FY                                                                    
24 actuals and  the FY 25 management  plan. She acknowledged                                                                    
that the  FY 25 numbers  were based on  authorization rather                                                                    
than actuals  but noted that  the source of the  other funds                                                                    
was unclear.  She asked whether the  department had expected                                                                    
federal  funds  or  inter-agency   transfers  to  cover  the                                                                    
amounts and requested that the  explanation be included in a                                                                    
follow up.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson directed attention  to slide 11. He asked                                                                    
for clarification regarding the  three categories within the                                                                    
non-K12   district  support section  of  the  pie chart.  He                                                                    
noted that School  Finance and Facilities was  listed at $24                                                                    
million,  Child  Nutrition at  $77.5  million,  and DIEE  at                                                                    
$210.5 million.  He asked whether the  Child Nutrition funds                                                                    
were used to feed children.                                                                                                     
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that the  $77.5 million  for                                                                    
Child  Nutrition did  not remain  within the  department but                                                                    
was distributed to school districts.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if the DIEE  directly benefited                                                                    
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop  responded   in  the  affirmative.  She                                                                    
explained  that   some  of  the   funds  within   DIEE  were                                                                    
distributed  to  districts  in   the  form  of  grants.  For                                                                    
example,  school  accountability  funds provided  grants  to                                                                    
school districts identified through  the assessment model as                                                                    
needing  improvement.   The  grants  supported   efforts  to                                                                    
improve  educational outcomes.  She  added  that there  were                                                                    
other grants within DIEE that  supported initiatives such as                                                                    
teacher  retention and  recruitment, about  which she  could                                                                    
provide additional details in a follow up.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked where Head Start  program funding was                                                                    
in the budget.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded that  the $13 million for Head                                                                    
Start was  included within  the Early  Development category.                                                                    
She explained  that within  the Early  Learning Coordination                                                                    
component  within  DIEE,  one   employee  was  funded  using                                                                    
federal funds  from the  federal Office  of Head  Start, but                                                                    
the rest of  the Head Start funds were  distributed to local                                                                    
partners. She  confirmed that $13  million went to  all Head                                                                    
Start  programs  across  the state  but  additional  smaller                                                                    
specific amounts were allocated  to Best Beginnings, Thread,                                                                    
DOH, and Parents as Teachers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:59:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Siverly  continued on  slide  13  and stated  that  the                                                                    
Division  of  Finance  and Support  Services  (DFSS)  had  a                                                                    
budget of $1.3  billion and included components  such as the                                                                    
Foundation   Program,   Pupil  Transportation,   and   Child                                                                    
Nutrition. She added that  Broadband Assistance Grants (BAG)                                                                    
had  been moved  from the  Division of  Libraries, Archives,                                                                    
and Museums (DLAM), which would  be reflected as a reduction                                                                    
on slide 17.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp referred to  the $21 million listed for                                                                    
BAG and  remarked that it appeared  substantially lower than                                                                    
what he  recalled being appropriated  in the  previous year.                                                                    
He asked for more information about the reduction.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop indicated  that DEED  was available  to                                                                    
respond to the question.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER HEINEKEN, DIRECTOR OF  FINANCE AND SUPPORT SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF  EDUCATION   AND   EARLY  DEVELOPMENT   (via                                                                    
teleconference),  responded  that  she   did  not  have  the                                                                    
comparison available currently but  would follow up with the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp  thought   that   the  numbers   were                                                                    
published  on the  department's  website and  that he  could                                                                    
likely look  the information up  himself. He  expressed that                                                                    
his  primary interest  was understanding  whether the  lower                                                                    
number reflected  reduced participation by  school districts                                                                    
in the  program. He  asked if  the department  could confirm                                                                    
whether  fewer  school  districts   were  applying  for  the                                                                    
grants.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded that  there had been districts                                                                    
that  no  longer  needed  to  apply  for  the  funding.  For                                                                    
example, the  Lower Yukon  School District  had transitioned                                                                    
directly to  Starlink and utilized burstable  services. As a                                                                    
result,  that district  was no  longer using  either Federal                                                                    
Communications  Commission   (FCC)  funds  or   state  funds                                                                    
because it  had adopted  different technology. The  goal was                                                                    
to bring  all districts  up to 100  megabits. If  a district                                                                    
already   received  service   exceeding  the   100  megabits                                                                    
threshold, it would not qualify for funding.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked  how  it was  possible  that  a                                                                    
school  district   could  move  from  a   service  that  was                                                                    
subsidized at 90 percent by  the federal government and also                                                                    
supported by a  $21 million state grant, and  yet still find                                                                    
it  more affordable  to pay  out of  pocket for  a different                                                                    
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Bishop   responded   that  there   had   been                                                                    
significant  local pressure  within  the  state to  continue                                                                    
receiving the  federal money  because the  funds represented                                                                    
resources coming  into Alaska.  She acknowledged  that using                                                                    
Starlink could  be a  cost-effective opportunity  for school                                                                    
districts as  it did not consume  as high a percentage  of a                                                                    
district's budgets.  She emphasized that  local stakeholders                                                                    
still valued the federal funding.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:04:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  whether  the department  could                                                                    
provide  the  number  of school  districts  that  could  not                                                                    
obtain  service greater  than  100  megabits. She  suggested                                                                    
that  a substantial  reduction  in  spending suggested  that                                                                    
many  districts might  now have  access to  better services.                                                                    
She  speculated  that  the   most  remote  districts  likely                                                                    
remained  underserved  and  were   still  unable  to  access                                                                    
adequate  service  levels.  She  asked  how  many  districts                                                                    
remained underserved. Although a  decrease in spending could                                                                    
be seen  as a cost  savings, the increasing need  for online                                                                    
testing  and   initiatives  meant  all   districts  required                                                                    
consistent internet  access. She did not  believe that rural                                                                    
districts  should be  held to  the same  standards as  urban                                                                    
districts. She  noted that fiber  optic access  and Starlink                                                                    
reliability   could   be   problematic   in   extreme   cold                                                                    
temperatures.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  requested that the department  follow up                                                                    
with  the  information  if  it   did  not  have  it  readily                                                                    
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Silverly continued to slide  14. She stated that DAS had                                                                    
a budget  of $7.3  million and  the division  included human                                                                    
resources, grant  administration, and procurement,  and also                                                                    
included the department's leases and IT components.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Silverly  proceeded to slide  15 and reported  that DIEE                                                                    
had a  budget of $210  million. The division  contained most                                                                    
of the  programmatic funding  allocated to  school districts                                                                    
and housed special education programs and CTE.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  asked   how  many   employees  were                                                                    
currently working  on teacher certifications and  asked what                                                                    
the  current wait  time was  for  teacher certification  and                                                                    
recertification.  She noted  that over  the past  few years,                                                                    
the   committee  had   received  numerous   complaints  from                                                                    
individuals seeking certification  and from school districts                                                                    
attempting  to  pay  individuals whose  certifications  were                                                                    
still pending. She asked for information about the backlog.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that  the  most recent  data                                                                    
showed the  average processing time  was under  eight weeks.                                                                    
She  had  recently  encountered   two  individuals  who  had                                                                    
received their certifications within  four weeks. Last year,                                                                    
the   department  decided   to   continue  accepting   paper                                                                    
applications  while  also   processing  online  submissions,                                                                    
which   required    staff   to   work   in    both   systems                                                                    
simultaneously.   The  department   made  the   decision  to                                                                    
discontinue paper  applications in the past  summer. At that                                                                    
time, there had been a  backlog, and staff worked to process                                                                    
all  paper  materials  before  fully  transitioning  to  the                                                                    
online system.  At the  beginning of  the current  year, the                                                                    
department  faced  delays  due  to the  processing  of  non-                                                                    
traditional   certifications   which   required   individual                                                                    
review, such as  emergency certifications. Additionally, the                                                                    
influx of certification requests  driven by the Alaska Reads                                                                    
Act  created  a  significant  volume of  work,  placing  the                                                                    
department as much as four months behind.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  relayed that the  department redirected                                                                    
two   internal  positions   to  assist   with  certification                                                                    
processing which  brought the total number  of staff working                                                                    
on  certifications  to  seven. She  stated  that  processing                                                                    
times had  returned to  approximately four  weeks as  of the                                                                    
fall  of 2024,  and  the department  aimed  to maintain  the                                                                    
timeline. The  long-term goal was  to modernize  the system,                                                                    
which  would allow  both school  districts and  employees to                                                                    
view the  status of certification  applications. Previously,                                                                    
only individual  applicants could track the  progress of the                                                                    
applications, but  the new system  would allow  employers to                                                                    
also see  certification status  as applicants  moved through                                                                    
the   process.  The   department's  target   was  a   30-day                                                                    
turnaround time  for certification,  and it  was approaching                                                                    
its goal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   stated   that   the   update   was                                                                    
encouraging but  she still  had concerns.  She asked  if the                                                                    
transition  to  an   entirely  digital  application  process                                                                    
created complications for  non-traditional teachers, such as                                                                    
those from foreign countries. For  example, there might be a                                                                    
teacher who had graduated from  a college in the Philippines                                                                    
and might  still possess  only paper-based  transcripts. She                                                                    
asked  whether  the  department was  experiencing  a  burden                                                                    
related  to digitizing  such  records  for international  or                                                                    
non-traditional applicants.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that  the department  did not                                                                    
think  the issue  significantly  impacted  the backlog.  She                                                                    
explained  that  there  was a  growing  interest  in  hiring                                                                    
employees   on  visas   through   teacher  recruitment   and                                                                    
retention initiatives. Many  visa holders were transitioning                                                                    
from J-1  visas to  H visas,  which provided  more long-term                                                                    
employment  options.  She  stated  that the  trend  had  not                                                                    
created bottlenecks in the certification process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  emphasized that the real  challenge was                                                                    
with  emergency  certifications.  She stated  that  standard                                                                    
certifications   followed   set  criteria,   but   emergency                                                                    
certifications  required an  additional level  of individual                                                                    
review,   which   caused   delays.   She   reiterated   that                                                                    
international   teachers  were   not  contributing   to  the                                                                    
slowdown. The  department sought to provide  more support to                                                                    
school districts  through teacher recruitment  and retention                                                                    
initiatives.   She   noted   that  school   districts   were                                                                    
responsible for  sponsoring J-1 visas  and that much  of the                                                                    
paperwork  backlog existed  at the  district level.  Part of                                                                    
the  department's funding  request  involved establishing  a                                                                    
statewide  system to  assist districts  with processing  the                                                                    
applications.  She  reiterated  that the  backlog  was  more                                                                    
likely to occur at the local  level and not within the state                                                                    
certification office.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  if  the  box  labeled  "Federal,                                                                    
Student and School Achievement"  on slide 15 represented the                                                                    
most  vulnerable  source  of funding.  He  stated  that  the                                                                    
federal  administration  had  indicated  that  reforms  were                                                                    
under   consideration  and   that  the   funding  could   be                                                                    
restructured into  a block grant or  potentially eliminated.                                                                    
He noted  that the $157 million  funding allocation appeared                                                                    
uncertain  compared to  historical  norms and  asked if  his                                                                    
assessment was fair.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  replied that  the funds  were currently                                                                    
congressionally    approved    and    that    the    federal                                                                    
administration alone  could not  make changes to  the funds.                                                                    
She clarified  that the  federal funds  included entitlement                                                                    
funds and  were established through  congressional approval.                                                                    
She   relayed   that   any   modifications   would   require                                                                    
congressional   action  and   would  depend   on  the   U.S.                                                                    
Congress's  ability to  cancel  or redesign  the funds.  She                                                                    
reiterated    that   the    funding   amount    itself   was                                                                    
congressionally approved.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  stated that he remained  concerned about                                                                    
broader trends.  He noted that congress  also approved funds                                                                    
for the  United States Agency for  International Development                                                                    
(USAID), but the funds  had nevertheless become unavailable.                                                                    
He stated  that a definitive  U.S. Supreme Court  case might                                                                    
be needed  to confirm that appropriated  funds under federal                                                                    
law could  not be undone.  He noted that the  issue remained                                                                    
unresolved. He asked if there  was confidence that the funds                                                                    
in question  would remain available for  the current federal                                                                    
fiscal year.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop replied that  the USAID funds referenced                                                                    
were  competitive grants.  She  stated  that the  department                                                                    
also had a competitive grant  of $50 million over five years                                                                    
for reading programs. She  clarified that entitlement grants                                                                    
were  not  subject  to  cancellation  in  the  same  way  as                                                                    
competitive grants  and that  entitlement grants  could only                                                                    
be  changed  through  congressional action.  She  reiterated                                                                    
that while  competitive grant  contracts could  be canceled,                                                                    
entitlement funds remained protected.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson   expressed    appreciation   for   the                                                                    
explanation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:14:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siverly  continued to slide  16. She explained  that the                                                                    
slide was  included to  show the  FY 24  actual expenditures                                                                    
for the  Alyeska Reading Academy  and Institute  (ARAI). She                                                                    
reported that the expenditures totaled $4.2 million.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked why  the  slide  remained in  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded that  the department wanted to                                                                    
demonstrate that  the program  was closed  out in  the prior                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Siverly continued  to slide 17 and stated  that DLAM had                                                                    
a  total  budget of  $12  million.  She explained  that  the                                                                    
division   brought   communities   together   and   assisted                                                                    
libraries and museums across the state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan noted that  there had been issues with                                                                    
library grants  in the  past. She  asked for  assurance that                                                                    
the Public  Library Assistance (PLA)  grants were  on track,                                                                    
fully budgeted,  and were intended  to be fully  expended in                                                                    
FY 26.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that it  was a  departmental                                                                    
and  divisional priority  to ensure  the grants  were funded                                                                    
first.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Silverly continued  to slide  18 and  relayed that  Mt.                                                                    
Edgecumbe  High  School   (MEHS)  served  approximately  400                                                                    
students per  school year  and had a  total budget  of $15.9                                                                    
million.  She stated  that the  amount included  funding for                                                                    
the  aquatic center  as well  as  facilities operations  and                                                                    
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson asked  what  the  funding increases  for                                                                    
MEHS had  been over  the last  decade. He  acknowledged that                                                                    
the question might be provocative.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Silverly replied  that the  department would  follow up                                                                    
with the information.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Silverly continued  to slide  19 and  relayed that  the                                                                    
Professional  Teaching  Practices Commission  supported  the                                                                    
preparation,  attraction,  and  retention of  qualified  and                                                                    
ethical educators by  enhancing professional performance and                                                                    
promoting   positive   and  preventative   measures   within                                                                    
Alaska's   teaching   profession.   She  stated   that   the                                                                    
commission's budget was $293,000.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Silverly  continued to slide  20 and explained  that the                                                                    
Alaska  State Council  on the  Arts (ASCA)  had a  budget of                                                                    
$4.28 million.  She explained that the  council represented,                                                                    
supported,   and   promoted    the   creative   efforts   of                                                                    
individuals, organizations, and agencies throughout Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  noted that there  was growth in  the UGF                                                                    
spending for ASCA,  which he thought was  positive. He asked                                                                    
whether  advocacy groups  and  local  community arts  groups                                                                    
were satisfied with the funding amount.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that Mr. Benjamin  Brown from                                                                    
ASCA was available to provide more information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:17:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BENJAMIN BROWN, CHAIRMAN, ALASKA  STATE COUNCIL ON THE ARTS,                                                                    
noted that  he served ASCA  as a  volunteer and had  done so                                                                    
since his appointment by former  Governor Frank Murkowski in                                                                    
2004.  In response  to the  earlier  question from  Co-Chair                                                                    
Josephson, he  explained that ASCA  was very  satisfied with                                                                    
the  current budget  figure. He  expressed appreciation  for                                                                    
the recent increases to the  National Endowment for the Arts                                                                    
(NEA) budget made by the  U.S. Congress. He thought that the                                                                    
increases  had resulted  in slightly  larger allocations  in                                                                    
the council's three-year  partnership agreements, which were                                                                    
grant contracts. He expressed  gratitude to the governor and                                                                    
OMB for submitting  a budget in December of  2024 that fully                                                                    
funded  and matched  the council's  needs. He  described the                                                                    
funding as a prudent investment  of state dollars because it                                                                    
leveraged  not only  federal funds  but  also private  funds                                                                    
from  foundations such  as the  Rasmuson Foundation  and the                                                                    
Margaret A.  Cargill Philanthropies.  He stated  that Alaska                                                                    
had  the highest  ratio of  non-governmental funding  of any                                                                    
state arts agency in the country.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  asked what  the council did  and what                                                                    
kind of programs were operated by the council.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brown  responded  that  the  council  operated  several                                                                    
different  programs.  He  remarked   that  the  council  was                                                                    
probably best known  in local communities for  its grants to                                                                    
arts  organizations. Although  the  grants  were not  large,                                                                    
they were critical. For example,  there was a $21,000 annual                                                                    
operating  support  grant  to   Valley  Performing  Arts  in                                                                    
Wasilla,  which  served  as   a  foundational  part  of  the                                                                    
organization's budget  and helped provide  community theater                                                                    
to  local residents.  The council  also supported  many arts                                                                    
organizations  in Juneau,  Nome,  and  Ketchikan. The  grant                                                                    
recipients  were  typically  small  nonprofits  that  helped                                                                    
Alaskans access arts and cultural  activities in their daily                                                                    
lives. The  council also operated a  much smaller individual                                                                    
artist  grant program  that was  typically around  typically                                                                    
around $2,000 and  helped visual artists who  had never held                                                                    
a gallery  show obtain  necessary materials such  as framing                                                                    
supplies. He  stressed that the  small grants  were critical                                                                    
for individuals who  otherwise might not be  able to advance                                                                    
their careers.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brown added  that the  council was  well known  for its                                                                    
Alaska  Artistic License  Plate  Program,  which had  become                                                                    
extremely  popular.  He  thanked  the  legislature  for  its                                                                    
assistance in  changing the laws  governing the  program. He                                                                    
noted that  the fireweed  license plates  were now  the most                                                                    
widely distributed  by the Division of  Motor Vehicles (DMV)                                                                    
and that  the modest surcharge  from the plates was  used to                                                                    
support  council  programming.   Additionally,  the  council                                                                    
operated  a  contemporary  art bank  program,  which  placed                                                                    
contemporary  Alaskan   art  in  state   offices,  including                                                                    
legislative  offices.   He  added  that  the   council  also                                                                    
partnered with NEA  and the Poetry Foundation to  put on the                                                                    
Poetry  Out  Loud  competition. The  competition  encouraged                                                                    
young  Alaskans  to  memorize   and  recite  poetry  at  the                                                                    
classroom, school, district, and  state levels. He announced                                                                    
that  the statewide  final competition  would take  place on                                                                    
Wednesday, March  5, 2025,  and would  be broadcast  live on                                                                    
Gavel to  Gavel. He emphasized  that the council  operated a                                                                    
wide variety  of programs using  minimal resources  and that                                                                    
community   partnerships  were   vital  in   delivering  the                                                                    
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  stated that it was  important for the                                                                    
public to understand  the full scope of  the council's work.                                                                    
She  thought   that  Mr.  Brown's  comments   served  as  an                                                                    
effective public message.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson agreed  with  Representative Allard.  He                                                                    
stated the committee would continue with the presentation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:21:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Siverly continued  on  slide 21  and  stated that  ACPE                                                                    
oversaw  postsecondary education  needs.  She reported  that                                                                    
the  commission's   responsibilities  included   the  Alaska                                                                    
Performance Scholarship (APS),  Alaska Education Grants, and                                                                    
the Washington, Wyoming, Alaska,  Montana, and Idaho (WWAMI)                                                                    
program. She stated that the  commission's total funding was                                                                    
$53 million.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Silverly continued on slide  22 which detailed the FY 26                                                                    
budget  changes for  DEED. She  explained that  K12  funding                                                                    
formulas   were   fully   funded  according   to   statutory                                                                    
calculations and the foundation  program was funded at $1.13                                                                    
billion,  with a  BSA  of $5,960.  She  reported that  pupil                                                                    
transportation funding was set at $67.8 million.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked for more information  about the                                                                    
department's role  in helping  families and  students better                                                                    
understand  their opportunities  to qualify  for APS.  There                                                                    
was  legislation passed  in  the prior  year  [HB 148]  that                                                                    
brought about an increase of  students in the university and                                                                    
in  trade programs  such as  CTE.  She thought  it would  be                                                                    
helpful to  understand how the  state was  better delivering                                                                    
messages   to   families   and  students   about   available                                                                    
opportunities.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Bishop  deferred   the   questioned  to   her                                                                    
colleagues with more detailed knowledge on the subject.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  added that  part of the  question was                                                                    
understanding  how  the  team   was  working  together.  She                                                                    
thought  that  communication about  available  opportunities                                                                    
had improved both before and after a student graduated.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:23:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH  RIDDLE, DIVISION  OPERATIONS  MANAGER, DIVISION  OF                                                                    
INNOVATION   AND   EDUCATION   EXCELLENCE,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
EDUCATION AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT, introduced herself.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KERRY THOMAS,  ACTING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  ALASKA COMMISSION                                                                    
ON POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION, introduced herself.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  relayed that there was  a question about                                                                    
APS  and  how  its   availability  was  being  promoted  and                                                                    
communicated.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Riddle  responded  that DEED  started  the  process  by                                                                    
serving as the agency  that provided eligibility information                                                                    
to  ACPE. She  explained  that  the department  collaborated                                                                    
with   school   counselors   and   distributed   information                                                                    
regarding   early  award   notifications,  which   had  been                                                                    
established through HB  148 in the previous  year. She noted                                                                    
that  ACPE had  a strong  capacity for  advertising and  had                                                                    
become a partner  of the department. She  explained that the                                                                    
department   worked  to   support   ACPE  in   disseminating                                                                    
information  to  school   districts,  and  department  staff                                                                    
worked  with  both  private and  correspondence  schools  to                                                                    
ensure that  as many students  as possible were  informed of                                                                    
available opportunities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  if  Ms.  Thomas  had  additional                                                                    
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Thomas  reiterated  that  ACPE  and  DEED  were  strong                                                                    
partners in  providing information about the  scholarship to                                                                    
Alaskan families  and postsecondary institutions.  She noted                                                                    
that  ACPE employed  communication  methods  to promote  the                                                                    
scholarship.  She reported  that ACPE  communicated directly                                                                    
with students  and families, typically  via email,  and ACPE                                                                    
representatives attended school events  at both the K12  and                                                                    
postsecondary  levels, including  college and  career fairs.                                                                    
She relayed  that ACPE  maintained strong  partnerships with                                                                    
the  University of  Alaska (UA)  and other  higher education                                                                    
institutions. The goal was to  ensure that institutions were                                                                    
familiar   with    the   scholarship   program    and   were                                                                    
communicating details to prospective students.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Thomas added  that ACPE  also  conducted social  media,                                                                    
advertising, and  digital campaigns to promote  awareness of                                                                    
the  scholarship. There  was a  cross-agency workgroup  that                                                                    
included  ACPE, DEED,  school district  representatives, the                                                                    
Department of  Labor and  Workforce Development  (DLWD), and                                                                    
UA.  She explained  that the  goal of  the workgroup  was to                                                                    
ensure  that  every student  and  family  was aware  of  the                                                                    
scholarship  program at  the beginning  of high  school. She                                                                    
emphasized  that  early   awareness  was  important  because                                                                    
students  needed to  plan in  advance in  order to  meet the                                                                    
scholarship's  curriculum  and  grade  point  average  (GPA)                                                                    
requirements by  graduation. She  stated that  the workgroup                                                                    
was  attempting  to  address  the  need  from  all  possible                                                                    
angles.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp referenced slide  22 and noted that the                                                                    
pupil transportation program  was calculated separately from                                                                    
the  foundation formula.  He  asked  Commissioner Bishop  to                                                                    
explain the  rationale for separating  the program  from the                                                                    
rest of  the foundation formula.  He noted that  the program                                                                    
was a fixed cost.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that  she was not  certain of                                                                    
the  historical origin  of the  separation, but  she thought                                                                    
that the  approach made  sense. She  noted that  fixed costs                                                                    
varied significantly  across Alaska and that  separating the                                                                    
costs allowed  for clearer  identification of  the expenses.                                                                    
She added  that pupil transportation  costs were based  on a                                                                    
per-pupil  calculation but  were  separated  to ensure  that                                                                    
funds  intended  for  transportation  were  used  for  their                                                                    
intended  purpose,  while  other  funds  could  be  directed                                                                    
toward classroom instruction.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp agreed and  thought it was important to                                                                    
understand how  money reached the  classroom. He  noted that                                                                    
different  districts   faced  different  fixed   costs.  For                                                                    
example,  residential  electric   rates  in  Fairbanks  were                                                                    
approximately  $0.27  per  kilowatt  hour,  while  costs  in                                                                    
Ketchikan and Juneau  were much lower. He  asked whether the                                                                    
commissioner  had considered  identifying other  fixed costs                                                                    
outside of pupil transportation  and removing the costs from                                                                    
the  foundation formula  to provide  the legislature  with a                                                                    
clearer picture.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that  she had  considered the                                                                    
issue and  noted that Fairbanks' energy  costs also affected                                                                    
pupil transportation.  She explained that school  buses were                                                                    
required by  law to maintain  an interior temperature  of 45                                                                    
degrees before  picking up a single  student, which required                                                                    
heated indoor storage that was  not mandatory in other areas                                                                    
of  the state.  She  reported  that she  and  her staff  had                                                                    
explored  the   idea  of   addressing  fixed   energy  costs                                                                    
directly.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  explained that historically,  there had                                                                    
been  a 70/30  provision  that required  70  percent of  all                                                                    
funds received  by a  district to  be spent  on instruction.                                                                    
The  provision  had since  been  removed  due to  increasing                                                                    
difficulty in adhering to it.  She noted that some districts                                                                    
spent as  little as  8 percent of  their budgets  on energy,                                                                    
while others spent more than  40 percent on various forms of                                                                    
energy. She thought  it would be prudent to  review the last                                                                    
three years  of actual energy expenditures  and to determine                                                                    
an acceptable  percentage of  a district's  operating budget                                                                    
to be spent on energy. She  suggested a starting range of 10                                                                    
percent to 15 percent. If  a district participated in energy                                                                    
conservation  efforts,   the  state  could   provide  direct                                                                    
payments   for  any   energy   expenditures  exceeding   the                                                                    
established threshold.  She emphasized that the  goal was to                                                                    
protect   classroom   instruction  dollars   by   addressing                                                                    
unavoidable fixed costs separately.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:30:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson stated  that he was not an  expert on the                                                                    
foundation  formula,   but  he  believed  that   it  already                                                                    
accounted   for   district-level  cost   differentials   and                                                                    
disparities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that  the formula  included a                                                                    
cost  area differential;  however, the  disparity in  energy                                                                    
costs  had   grown  significantly.   She  stated   that  the                                                                    
volatility and  magnitude of energy  costs now  exceeded the                                                                    
predictable  market  basket  costs   used  in  the  original                                                                    
differential calculations, such as  those for food and fuel.                                                                    
She suggested  that re-examining the cost  area differential                                                                    
could be helpful.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin commented  that it  was important  to                                                                    
ensure that  resources were  being allocated  in a  way that                                                                    
was inclusive of students in  rural Alaska. She stressed the                                                                    
importance  of  ensuring  that   all  Alaskan  students  and                                                                    
families  were  informed  about  scholarship  opportunities,                                                                    
including   the   complexities   of  completing   the   Free                                                                    
Application for  Federal Student Aid (FAFSA).  She requested                                                                    
that the department follow up  with additional detail on how                                                                    
resources were being allocated.  In addition, she thought it                                                                    
would  be   helpful  to  be  provided   with  a  demographic                                                                    
breakdown  of the  over  900 students  who  had newly  taken                                                                    
advantage of APS.  She asked whether the  students were from                                                                    
correspondence  programs,  from  Anchorage,  or  from  other                                                                    
areas. She stated  that understanding the ways  in which the                                                                    
program had  been effective in reaching  students would help                                                                    
inform future funding decisions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson requested  that  the presenters  include                                                                    
the  requested breakdown  of students  in the  follow-up and                                                                    
provide  details about  outreach efforts  to rural  Alaskans                                                                    
regarding the scholarship.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:33:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN   MORRISON,   DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
EDUCATION AND  EARLY DEVELOPMENT, advanced to  slide 23. She                                                                    
stated that  the chart showed  total state aid  and one-time                                                                    
funding outside the foundation formula  from FY 00 to fiscal                                                                    
year  26.  She  moved  to  slide  24,  which  displayed  the                                                                    
historical  trend of  foundation  funding and  ADM over  the                                                                    
past   26  years.   She  noted   that  the   slide  included                                                                    
preliminary data for FY 25 as  well as projected data for FY                                                                    
26.  The table  on  the  right side  of  the slide  provided                                                                    
detailed figures  and showed  that the  projected foundation                                                                    
funding for FY 26 was $1.13 billion with an ADM of 124,700.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  asked  whether  the  department  had                                                                    
considered  presenting information  that  accounted for  the                                                                    
inflationary cost  of education  rather than only  the total                                                                    
dollar amount spent. She noted  that the purchasing power of                                                                    
each  dollar  changed over  time  and  it was  important  to                                                                    
understand  how  inflation   affected  educational  funding.                                                                    
While  dollar  values might  appear  to  increase, the  real                                                                    
value  could  decline.  She  reiterated  the  importance  of                                                                    
understanding  the  value of  the  dollar  being spent.  She                                                                    
suggested   including  background   data   that  showed   an                                                                    
inflation-adjusted trend.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp recommended  examining a 20-year period                                                                    
for inflation  adjustment. He  noted that  the chart  on the                                                                    
slide showed that  ADM was currently slightly  lower than in                                                                    
earlier  years, while  state aid  had approximately  doubled                                                                    
since 2004.  He suggested that  showing the growth  of fixed                                                                    
costs   over   the  time   period   would   be  helpful   in                                                                    
understanding  how  the costs  related  to  the increase  in                                                                    
state aid.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard  stated  that  some  members  of  the                                                                    
public had  expressed concern about crowded  classrooms. She                                                                    
asked  the  commissioner to  share  her  perspective on  the                                                                    
issue.  She recalled  that the  commissioner had  previously                                                                    
shared  data and  research that  showed that  classroom size                                                                    
was not  correlated to student learning  outcomes, which she                                                                    
agreed  with.  She  asked  the  commissioner  to  share  her                                                                    
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:37:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that the reference  came from                                                                    
a book she had read  that was a meta-analysis of educational                                                                    
research. She could not recall the  title of the book at the                                                                    
moment. According to the book,  class size was one indicator                                                                    
of  student learning  outcomes but  was not  within the  top                                                                    
forty  factors  that  impacted  learning  trajectories.  She                                                                    
asserted that  other improvements and  pedagogical practices                                                                    
used in schools  had greater influence than  class size. She                                                                    
offered to  provide the book title  or excerpted information                                                                    
from it in a follow  up. She indicated that teacher quality,                                                                    
teacher  feedback, and  student  engagement  were among  the                                                                    
higher-impact factors. The  educational research detailed in                                                                    
the  book demonstrated  that class  size was  not the  first                                                                    
priority for improving student learning.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard requested  that the department provide                                                                    
the  information  to  members   so  that  individual  school                                                                    
districts could better understand the research.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson asked  if  the follow  up  would be  the                                                                    
report alone or the complete book.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that she  could extract  the                                                                    
specific section  from the book  addressing class  size. She                                                                    
explained  that  the   study  summarized  which  educational                                                                    
factors  had   the  most  significant  effects   on  student                                                                    
learning.  She stated  she would  be happy  to provide  full                                                                    
copies of the book to members if desired.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  expressed that  he was skeptical  of the                                                                    
validity of the study. He  stated that he found it difficult                                                                    
to accept that  class size was ranked outside  the top forty                                                                    
influencing factors  and questioned  the credibility  of the                                                                    
report. He  noted that  at large  universities, introductory                                                                    
classes  might  have  hundreds   of  students,  while  small                                                                    
universities  had  small  class  sizes.  He  reiterated  his                                                                    
suspicion of  the book's data,  though he  acknowledged that                                                                    
he had not yet reviewed it.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  directed attention to slide  25, which                                                                    
addressed  the growth  of  correspondence  programs and  the                                                                    
decline   in   brick-and-mortar    school   enrollment.   He                                                                    
understood  that   one  of  the  formulaic   issues  in  the                                                                    
foundation formula  was that the school  size multiplier did                                                                    
not  act  as  a  positive  indicator  for  a  district  like                                                                    
Anchorage.  He noted  that Anchorage  might see  declines in                                                                    
brick-and-mortar  enrollment because  of  the declining  BSA                                                                    
amounts.  He  noted  that  Anchorage  was  discouraged  from                                                                    
closing schools,  and it would  receive reduced  funding per                                                                    
student  under   the  current  formula.  He   described  the                                                                    
situation as  a "perverse incentive" to  keep under-enrolled                                                                    
schools open.  He asked the  commissioner to comment  on the                                                                    
issue and suggest potential solutions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that  years  ago, there  had                                                                    
been  an incentive  for districts  to  close schools,  which                                                                    
included a  "hold harmless" provision to  ease the financial                                                                    
burden  of school  closure. Within  the  current formula,  a                                                                    
school  functioned as  a funding  factor,  which meant  that                                                                    
there  could be  financial  advantages  to maintaining  more                                                                    
schools. She  explained that the school  size factor favored                                                                    
smaller   schools  and   benefited  many   rural  districts.                                                                    
However,  there was  a  "sweet spot"  in  the formula  where                                                                    
funding began  to diminish with increasing  school size. She                                                                    
believed  that  at  the  high   school  level,  the  formula                                                                    
provided less  than one dollar per  additional student after                                                                    
reaching  approximately 1,100  students. She  clarified that                                                                    
the  reduction  applied  only   to  students  exceeding  the                                                                    
threshold, as the state considered  1,100 students to be the                                                                    
ideal school size.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop  understood  the ideal  total  was  450                                                                    
students in  elementary schools. She explained  that schools                                                                    
would  receive less  funding  for any  child  enrolled in  a                                                                    
school  after the  450 student  threshold had  been reached.                                                                    
She explained that the structure  addressed the economies of                                                                    
scale  that benefited  larger cities.  She  noted that  many                                                                    
students   had    shifted   to    correspondence   programs,                                                                    
particularly over  the past ten  years and  especially since                                                                    
the  COVID-19 pandemic.  She  explained  the department  had                                                                    
examined  strategies  to  provide funding  to  districts  in                                                                    
recognition   of  the   fact   that  modern   correspondence                                                                    
education differed  significantly from  what it had  been 20                                                                    
to 30 years ago.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Bishop  continued   that  many   parents  had                                                                    
discovered during  the pandemic  that they  preferred having                                                                    
more control over their children's  education and valued the                                                                    
flexibility  it   provided.  She  noted  that   many  school                                                                    
districts had adapted  by developing flexible correspondence                                                                    
models in  which students  participated both  in traditional                                                                    
brick-and-mortar instruction and  online learning. She added                                                                    
that districts  continued to provide  supports such  as CTE,                                                                    
special education, and English  language learner services to                                                                    
correspondence   students.  The   governor's  goal   was  to                                                                    
recognize   the    support   provided   by    districts   to                                                                    
correspondence  students and  to provide  additional funding                                                                    
in  response.  She  acknowledged   that  the  hold  harmless                                                                    
provision  related  to  school closures  only  lasted  about                                                                    
three years, and  including a school in  the formula created                                                                    
an  incentive to  keep schools  open. She  noted that  there                                                                    
were  multiple  factors  involved  and  indicated  that  the                                                                    
department was attempting to make improvements.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:44:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp remarked  that the  growing popularity                                                                    
of correspondence  programs had  created a  unique situation                                                                    
in which  student enrollment shifted significantly  from one                                                                    
district  to  another.  He   observed  that  the  foundation                                                                    
formula did  not appear to  account for the shift.  Once the                                                                    
hold harmless period expired,  districts often experienced a                                                                    
significant  and  sudden drop  in  ADM.  He noted  that  the                                                                    
Fairbanks North  Star Borough  School District  (FNSBSD) had                                                                    
experienced  a  significant  ADM   drop.  He  asked  if  the                                                                    
commissioner  had any  ideas on  how to  compensate for  the                                                                    
shift.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that  she was not  certain of                                                                    
the  exact  numbers related  to  FNSBSD;  however, a  school                                                                    
closure  triggered  one  type of  hold  harmless  provision,                                                                    
while  a  district-wide  enrollment  drop  of  more  than  5                                                                    
percent  triggered another  type  of  provision. She  stated                                                                    
that  both provisions  were  currently  enforced. She  noted                                                                    
that  some  school   districts  operated  popular  statewide                                                                    
correspondence  programs that  had generally  existed for  a                                                                    
long period of time. She  explained that 32 school districts                                                                    
had   either  launched   correspondence  programs   or  were                                                                    
operating their own correspondence  programs in an effort to                                                                    
retain students.  Many districts  aimed to  capture students                                                                    
as they  entered kindergarten  because parents  preferred to                                                                    
retain  rollover funds  in the  allotments,  which could  be                                                                    
used  for specific  educational purchases.  The process  was                                                                    
similar  to  how  schools  maintained  a  fund  balance  for                                                                    
targeted purposes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop relayed that  districts sought to enroll                                                                    
students  early in  their academic  careers  and retain  the                                                                    
students. When families chose to  stay with a correspondence                                                                    
program, it was often because  the family was satisfied with                                                                    
the  services provided.  She  reiterated  that two  separate                                                                    
hold harmless  provisions existed: one  for a 5  percent ADM                                                                    
drop and  one for school  closures. She explained  that when                                                                    
students chose a correspondence  program that generated less                                                                    
funding,  it  created  additional  challenges  as  districts                                                                    
received less  funding for correspondence students  than for                                                                    
students   enrolled   in   brick-and-mortar   schools.   She                                                                    
explained  that the  disparity was  one of  the reasons  the                                                                    
department  attempted to  enhance funding  based on  student                                                                    
needs,  since districts  were  still  providing services  to                                                                    
those students.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp understood  that during  the pandemic,                                                                    
many students left brick-and-mortar  schools and enrolled in                                                                    
correspondence  programs   operated  by  their   own  school                                                                    
districts. He stated that the  shift created a funding issue                                                                    
because the same  student was now counted at  90 percent ADM                                                                    
under  the correspondence  model,  even  though the  student                                                                    
remained in the same district.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Bishop    confirmed   that    students    in                                                                    
correspondence programs  were funded  at 90 percent  ADM and                                                                    
also  did not  generate  any of  the additional  multipliers                                                                    
included in the foundation  formula. She emphasized that the                                                                    
multipliers  were where  districts  could actually  increase                                                                    
funding. She explained that the  department had attempted to                                                                    
provide    multipliers    to   districts    that    operated                                                                    
correspondence programs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked whether  the provision  would be                                                                    
included in the governor's education bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded in the affirmative.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:48:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   asked  for  clarification   on  the                                                                    
figures  on slide  25.  She noted  that  she had  previously                                                                    
heard a  different figure  for the  projected correspondence                                                                    
enrollment for  2026 than  the 781  student decrease  on the                                                                    
slide. She  had heard  it would  be a  loss of  around 2,000                                                                    
students.  She asked  for clarification  on whether  the 781                                                                    
figure represented  the correct projection for  the decrease                                                                    
in correspondence enrollment.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morrison responded that the  total projected decrease in                                                                    
ADM was 2,053  students. Of that total,  1,270 students were                                                                    
projected to  be lost from brick-and-mortar  enrollment, and                                                                    
783 from correspondence enrollment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  asked  whether  more  students  were                                                                    
projected to leave correspondence than brick-and-mortar.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morrison  responded that the  comparison to  the current                                                                    
fiscal  year showed  a 61.9  percent decrease  in brick-and-                                                                    
mortar   enrollment  and   a   38.1   percent  decrease   in                                                                    
correspondence enrollment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  reiterated that her  understanding of                                                                    
the  projection was  1,270  fewer brick-and-mortar  students                                                                    
and  781 fewer  correspondence  students. She  asked if  her                                                                    
understanding was correct.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Morrison   responded  that   the  correct   number  for                                                                    
correspondence was 783.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  explained  that she  was  trying  to                                                                    
understand the  broader context. She believed  the projected                                                                    
decrease represented  a higher proportion  of correspondence                                                                    
students  leaving   their  programs   than  brick-and-mortar                                                                    
students  leaving the  schools. She  stated that  there were                                                                    
approximately 120,000 K-12  students in brick-and-mortar and                                                                    
around 23,000 in correspondence.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morrison  confirmed that the proportionate  loss for the                                                                    
next year was expected to  be greater in correspondence than                                                                    
in brick-and-mortar.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:52:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  remarked that  the topic  of education                                                                    
spending  and   the  obligations  involved  was   a  complex                                                                    
conversation. He  thought it  was difficult  to see  how all                                                                    
the  components were  actually  impacting individual  school                                                                    
districts.  He noted  that districts  were highly  variable,                                                                    
including Regional  Educational Attendance Areas  (REAAs) as                                                                    
well  as  city  and  borough  school  districts,  each  with                                                                    
different  responsibilities. He  hoped the  department could                                                                    
provide  a high-level  explanation  of  the various  funding                                                                    
sources.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum noted that  the discussion thus far had                                                                    
focused  primarily  on state  aid,  but  earlier slides  had                                                                    
referenced  federal  dollars,   including  impact  aid.  The                                                                    
federal funds  were affected by specific  state actions such                                                                    
as the  disparity test, which  resulted in cost  savings for                                                                    
the state.  He remarked that  the state could choose  not to                                                                    
administer   the  disparity   test  while   allowing  school                                                                    
districts  to retain  the  full impact  aid  without a  cap,                                                                    
which would result in a  greater obligation for the state to                                                                    
fund  schools.  He asked  if  the  department could  briefly                                                                    
explain  the challenges  related to  providing data  on non-                                                                    
state  funding,   including  federal  dollars  as   well  as                                                                    
required and discretionary local contributions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop   responded  that  under   the  current                                                                    
disparity  test,  approximately   $82  million  was  applied                                                                    
toward a local contribution in  various REAAs or cities that                                                                    
received federal  impact aid. She stated  that the disparity                                                                    
test served  as a balancing  mechanism to ensure  that there                                                                    
was not more than a  25 percent difference in school funding                                                                    
between the wealthiest and  poorest districts. She explained                                                                    
that within the  25 percent margin, there was  a basic level                                                                    
that all  districts were required  to contribute as  well as                                                                    
an  upper limit  that  districts could  choose to  approach,                                                                    
resulting  in variability  within the  allowable range.  She                                                                    
noted  that Ms.  Morrison  had  experience working  directly                                                                    
with the formula  and she suggested that  Ms. Morrison speak                                                                    
to her experience.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morrison  added that the  total amount  calculated under                                                                    
the state's  funding formula was considered  the basic need.                                                                    
She explained  that the minimum required  local contribution                                                                    
or  a  portion  of  the   district's  impact  aid  was  then                                                                    
subtracted  from the  basic need  total. She  clarified that                                                                    
the state did  not directly receive any  federal impact aid;                                                                    
rather, the  amount was  simply used  as a  numerical factor                                                                    
within the  funding formula.  After calculating  the formula                                                                    
and subtracting the necessary  amounts, the state determined                                                                    
its share  of funding for  each district and then  added the                                                                    
quality schools funding on top.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum remarked  that the  legislature had  a                                                                    
constitutional  obligation  to   establish  and  maintain  a                                                                    
system of public schools open  to all children of the state.                                                                    
He asked whether  it was correct to interpret  the state aid                                                                    
requirement as the  minimum level of funding  needed to meet                                                                    
that constitutional obligation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morrison responded in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  understood  that  districts  had  the                                                                    
ability to  contribute additional funding to  schools beyond                                                                    
what was required to meet  the constitutional obligation. He                                                                    
stated  that  he  would  not delve  into  school  bond  debt                                                                    
reimbursement,  but he  thought that  most city  and borough                                                                    
school  districts  had  the ability  to  fund  the  physical                                                                    
school  buildings  that  students  attended.  He  asked  for                                                                    
confirmation  that spending  on  school  facilities was  not                                                                    
linked to the state's operational funding requirement.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop  responded   in  the  affirmative.  She                                                                    
stated that it was managed through a separate account.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:58:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Bynum   suggested  that   when   evaluating                                                                    
education policy in the state  holistically, it became clear                                                                    
that Alaska approached funding  differently depending on the                                                                    
type of district. He relayed  that REAAs and city or borough                                                                    
school  districts operated  under  vastly different  funding                                                                    
mechanisms. He  pointed out that city  and borough districts                                                                    
were required  to contribute  to meeting  the constitutional                                                                    
obligation,  whereas the  state  covered  the obligation  in                                                                    
REAAs. He  thought that the  charts in the  presentation did                                                                    
not reflect  the full picture  of education  funding because                                                                    
local  required  contributions   and  federal  dollars  were                                                                    
sometimes excluded.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop  responded  that  the  charts  did  not                                                                    
account for  all funding flowing into  school districts. For                                                                    
example, a  local homeowner in Ketchikan  or Anchorage might                                                                    
pay  a  separate  tax  for a  school  construction  bond  in                                                                    
addition  to any  taxes levied  for  school operations.  She                                                                    
clarified  that the  two were  separate  and distinct  items                                                                    
within the taxing authority.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  clarified that his intent  was to make                                                                    
the distinction  clear. He acknowledged  that he was  not an                                                                    
expert in  REAAs or in  the city  and borough model,  but he                                                                    
had  spent  four  years   studying  the  foundation  funding                                                                    
formula and  how it affected  local school  districts within                                                                    
his  district. He  stated that  the funding  mechanisms were                                                                    
highly  variable   across  districts,   and  he   wanted  to                                                                    
highlight the complexity of the system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  shared that  he had a  second question                                                                    
regarding an  issue that  had not  been discussed.  He noted                                                                    
that  the  charts  in  the  presentation  showed  trends  in                                                                    
funding,  including  increases  that  leveled  off  and  the                                                                    
incorporation of  one-time funding. He noted  that since the                                                                    
foundation formula had  last been studied in  depth 25 years                                                                    
ago,  there had  been a  significant change  related to  the                                                                    
special  education  multiplier.  He  had  not  heard  anyone                                                                    
address the  changes to the special  education multiplier or                                                                    
how  the  resulting  funding  had  impacted  overall  school                                                                    
funding. For  example, when the intensive  special education                                                                    
multiplier had  increased in Ketchikan  around 2009,  it had                                                                    
grown from a factor  of five to a factor of  13 over a short                                                                    
period of  time. He explained  that approximately  5 percent                                                                    
of the  district's funding had been  attributed to intensive                                                                    
special education  in 2009. In  2025, roughly 35  percent of                                                                    
the  total  funding  was  now   tied  to  intensive  special                                                                    
education. He  noted that while  overall school  funding may                                                                    
appear  to be  increasing,  much of  the  increase could  be                                                                    
attributed   to  the   compounded  effect   of  the   higher                                                                    
multiplier. He asked how  the increased funding requirements                                                                    
associated  with intensive  special  education had  affected                                                                    
overall funding going into school districts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that under  Alaska's funding                                                                    
formula,  all funds  began with  the ADM  and then  were ran                                                                    
through various multipliers, including  the small school and                                                                    
large school  multipliers. She explained that  the result of                                                                    
the  process  was one  collective  pool  of funding  at  the                                                                    
district level.  Districts then allocated the  funds through                                                                    
internal budgeting processes to support their programs.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop   added  that   that  there   were  six                                                                    
qualifying provisions a student needed  to meet in order for                                                                    
the  district   to  receive  funds  for   intensive  special                                                                    
education. She  acknowledged that  there was an  increase in                                                                    
funding related  to intensive  special education  and stated                                                                    
that  the  department  was  reviewing  the  current  system,                                                                    
particularly  because once  a student  qualified, the  funds                                                                    
continued  without   routine  auditing  after   the  initial                                                                    
determination. She  stated that districts reported  the data                                                                    
themselves.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Bishop  relayed   that  the   department  was                                                                    
considering   a  regulatory   change  to   gain  a   clearer                                                                    
understanding  of  how the  funds  were  being used  and  to                                                                    
better assess  the ongoing need.  She added that  many young                                                                    
children had  been entering the system  with intensive needs                                                                    
and   the  department   was  considering   how  to   address                                                                    
transitions  for higher  need students  as they  grew older.                                                                    
She  did not  have specific  information on  services within                                                                    
Representative Bynum's district, but  the data would be held                                                                    
locally. She  emphasized that all  funds were placed  in one                                                                    
account,  but the  funds  designated  for special  education                                                                    
were  specifically directed  toward students  with intensive                                                                    
and low incidence needs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:03:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum asked if  the department had observed a                                                                    
statewide  trend  of  more  students  being  placed  in  the                                                                    
intensive  special  education  category.  He  reported  that                                                                    
prior   to   the   multiplier   change,   there   had   been                                                                    
approximately 35  students in the category  in his district.                                                                    
He stated that  the current number had grown  to between 125                                                                    
and   130  students   and  had   increased  each   year.  He                                                                    
acknowledged  that   some  definitional  changes   may  have                                                                    
occurred but  asked if the  department had  observed similar                                                                    
trends statewide.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop   confirmed  that  there  had   been  a                                                                    
statewide  increase  in  students qualifying  for  intensive                                                                    
special  education funding.  She stated  that the  trend was                                                                    
most prevalent in  schools in larger cities.  She added that                                                                    
the department could provide exact  figures and a historical                                                                    
trend analysis in a follow up.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  asked  what substantial  changes  the                                                                    
department  had implemented  over the  last 20  to 25  years                                                                    
that  had  resulted  in   better  educational  outcomes  for                                                                    
students, apart  from the  special education  multiplier and                                                                    
the Reads Act.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop responded that data  from the era of the                                                                    
No  Child Left  Behind Act  and the  High School  Graduation                                                                    
Qualifying Exam  indicated that student achievement  used to                                                                    
be higher. She  stated that direct investments  CTE had also                                                                    
contributed   to   improved  opportunities   for   students,                                                                    
although she  would need to  review student outcome  data to                                                                    
make  a conclusive  statement on  the impact.  She predicted                                                                    
that the  Reads Act  would demonstrate  a positive  trend in                                                                    
student achievement in the future.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  relayed  that  a  consistent  concern                                                                    
reported by education  leaders in his district  had been the                                                                    
increasing   prevalence  of   mental  health   issues  among                                                                    
students.  He  stated  that mental  health  issues  affected                                                                    
students' ability  to learn and  it was critical  to address                                                                    
the issues.  He asked what  kinds of creative  strategies or                                                                    
collaborative  efforts   the  department  was   pursuing  to                                                                    
improve  the  state's response  to  the  growing concern  in                                                                    
schools, such as partnerships with  the Alaska Mental Health                                                                    
Trust Authority (AMHTA).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:07:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop  responded   that  one  strategy  under                                                                    
consideration was  a bill  sponsored by  Representative Zack                                                                    
Fields  that  aimed  to eliminate  cell  phone  usage  among                                                                    
students  [HB 57].  She stated  that  data demonstrated  the                                                                    
harmful  effects of  cell phone  usage  on students'  mental                                                                    
health. She noted  that Ketchikan had been  a frontrunner in                                                                    
a separate  initiative involving partnerships  with external                                                                    
agencies,  particularly the  U.S. Department  of Health  and                                                                    
Social  Services.  She  explained   that  both  the  federal                                                                    
government and the  state had changed policies  in the prior                                                                    
year to  allow districts to  bill Medicaid and  Medicare for                                                                    
mental   health   services   provided   to   students   with                                                                    
demonstrated   needs  who   did   not  have   Individualized                                                                    
Education Plans (IEPs). Previously,  only students with IEPs                                                                    
qualified  for  such  billing  under  the  Individuals  with                                                                    
Disabilities   Education   Act  (IDEA).   School   districts                                                                    
historically had  not been responsible for  providing mental                                                                    
health services; however, Alaska  Department of Health (DOH)                                                                    
Commissioner   Heidi   Hedberg   had   begun   leading   new                                                                    
partnership efforts with external  agencies. She stated that                                                                    
under the new approach, outside  agencies could now bill for                                                                    
mental health  services if a  student's parent did  not have                                                                    
insurance and the student was not on an IEP.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  asked  if  DEED  was  working  toward                                                                    
modeling  a  program  that  could  be  replicated  in  other                                                                    
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that DEED  was collaborating                                                                    
with DOH  and had  been actively engaged  in the  work since                                                                    
the federal  allowance was  adopted at  the state  level the                                                                    
previous  year. She  acknowledged  that one  of the  primary                                                                    
challenges  was the  shortage of  clinicians in  Alaska, but                                                                    
the  department  was  still  exploring  how  to  expand  the                                                                    
program statewide.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:10:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  asked for more information  about the                                                                    
increase in special education  enrollment and the associated                                                                    
rise in  funding. She thought that  the significant increase                                                                    
in  enrollment  was  particularly notable  and  stated  that                                                                    
numerous teachers  had told her  it was difficult  to ignore                                                                    
the link between increased  diagnoses and increased funding.                                                                    
She  asked who  was responsible  for diagnosing  students at                                                                    
the earliest level. She  inquired whether the responsibility                                                                    
fell to a school counselor, nurse, teacher, or parent.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that eligibility  for special                                                                    
education  services  was  clearly defined  under  IDEA.  She                                                                    
stated that a school  psychologist and the student's teacher                                                                    
were  required to  be involved  in  the evaluation  process.                                                                    
There was substantial  supporting documentation required for                                                                    
a formal  diagnosis. She added  that for many  students with                                                                    
high  needs or  low  incidence  conditions, eligibility  was                                                                    
determined  through  medical  diagnoses and  made  early  in                                                                    
life. The state also operated  the Child Find program, which                                                                    
identified eligible children as young  as three years old in                                                                    
order to begin intervention  early and potentially alter the                                                                    
child's  developmental  trajectory.  She stated  that  Child                                                                    
Find  was  funded  through special  education  dollars.  The                                                                    
identification  process was  lengthy and  governed by  legal                                                                    
statutes  and regulations.  She  added  that the  department                                                                    
hoped to move toward  more regular reevaluation of students'                                                                    
needs  as they  progressed  through  school, especially  for                                                                    
those receiving intensive behavioral support.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  stated that  she was  concerned about                                                                    
student   behavior   in   relation  to   special   education                                                                    
enrollment.  She  asked  whether   the  department  had  any                                                                    
statistics  regarding  how  many  older  students  had  been                                                                    
evaluated  for  special   education  services,  particularly                                                                    
those diagnosed  with ADHD or prescribed  medication such as                                                                    
Ritalin.  She acknowledged  that it  was a  complex question                                                                    
but  wanted to  hear the  department's perspective.  She was                                                                    
concerned  that  children  were being  misdiagnosed  due  to                                                                    
limited  recesses and  shortened  lunch  periods. She  noted                                                                    
that in prior decades, children  had longer breaks and there                                                                    
were  fewer behavioral  interventions.  She speculated  that                                                                    
the  rise in  diagnoses might  be correlated  with increased                                                                    
funding   allocations.  She   had   not   yet  received   an                                                                    
explanation  for  the  steep increase  in  Alaska's  special                                                                    
education  population  and  found the  trend  alarming.  She                                                                    
suggested that limiting cell phone  use might be part of the                                                                    
solution.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:13:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop   responded  that   there  was   a  law                                                                    
prohibiting  educators   from  recommending   medication  to                                                                    
students.   She   stated   that   only   medically   trained                                                                    
professionals  were  permitted  to  discuss  medication  and                                                                    
school nurses could not prescribe it.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard asserted  that there  was also  a law                                                                    
that said  "you're not allowed  to not do certain  things to                                                                    
your  children"  n  and she  alleged  the  Anchorage  School                                                                    
District (ASD) violated the law routinely.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  interrupted and  requested clarification                                                                    
from Representative Allard. He  stated that she had asserted                                                                    
that ASD  was violating the law,  but he was unsure  of what                                                                    
she meant. He asked her  to allow the commissioner to finish                                                                    
her response and  then stated that he did not  know what her                                                                    
comment was referring to.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard replied  that she  did not  trust the                                                                    
actions that seemed to be forthcoming.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson stated that he  was simply unclear on the                                                                    
actions she was referring to.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard stated  that she  was speaking  about                                                                    
transgender students. She had read  a document from ASD that                                                                    
stated that  students could use different  names or identify                                                                    
as  a different  gender without  parental notification.  She                                                                    
understood  that  a federal  law  was  being broken  by  the                                                                    
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  stated that  she wanted to  address a                                                                    
common  misconception about  special  education. She  stated                                                                    
that many  people held a  narrow view of what  constituted a                                                                    
special  education student  and  expressed appreciation  for                                                                    
Commissioner  Bishop's inclusion  of  low incidence  special                                                                    
education.  She  noted  that such  students  were  typically                                                                    
medically complex  and had significant medical  or cognitive                                                                    
conditions identified near birth  or caused by later medical                                                                    
events.  In  small  or   remote  communities  in  Southeast,                                                                    
families  with  children  requiring  frequent  medical  care                                                                    
often moved to larger  communities such as Ketchikan, Sitka,                                                                    
or Juneau, where  access to pediatric care  was more readily                                                                    
available.  She asked  for more  information on  what a  low                                                                    
incidence special education student typically looked like.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Bishop  responded that intensive  special needs                                                                    
funding was  primarily designated for low  incidence special                                                                    
education  students, especially  as the  students aged.  She                                                                    
explained  that the  goal of  special education  was not  to                                                                    
label  students but  to provide  early intervention  to help                                                                    
students succeed. She stated that  in the first few years of                                                                    
school,  such  students  were  often  identified  under  the                                                                    
category  of  "developmentally  delayed," unless  a  medical                                                                    
diagnosis or a physical  or cognitive disability had already                                                                    
been identified.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop   explained  that  students   who  were                                                                    
initially   identified  as   developmentally  delayed   were                                                                    
reassessed at  age eight and were  sometimes reclassified as                                                                    
having a  learning disability  in areas  such as  reading or                                                                    
math. The  students might  also continue  receiving services                                                                    
under   the  high-intensive   needs  category   for  special                                                                    
education, which  would require the assistance  of a teacher                                                                    
and potentially  another adult  supervisor. She  stated that                                                                    
the students  often required  support beyond  the assistance                                                                    
of a  classroom teacher.  She explained  that some  of these                                                                    
supports   included  adult   supervision,  assistance   with                                                                    
toileting,  medication  administration, and  transportation.                                                                    
She reiterated  that although the  occurrence of  such needs                                                                    
was  low  in  the   general  population,  the  intensity  of                                                                    
required  support   was  often  significant   and  typically                                                                    
resulted from birth conditions or medical diagnoses.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  noted that  in December of  2024, the                                                                    
department  had   issued  notice  of   proposed  regulations                                                                    
related  to  funding  disparities.   She  stated  that  many                                                                    
districts were concerned that the  changes would be harmful,                                                                    
including  in  her  own  district  of  Juneau.  The  concern                                                                    
stemmed  from the  proposal to  include local  contributions                                                                    
for activities traditionally outside  the funding cap in the                                                                    
disparity calculation,  such as  sports programs.  She asked                                                                    
whether the  proposed regulations  would be included  on the                                                                    
State Board of Education's March agenda.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that  the regulations  would                                                                    
not be on  the March agenda. She stated  that the department                                                                    
was  still  receiving  feedback from  school  districts  and                                                                    
anticipated  bringing the  regulations  forward  in June  of                                                                    
2025. She deferred further detail to Ms. Morrison.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:19:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Morrison added  that the  regulations had  already been                                                                    
drafted and  were currently under  review by  the Department                                                                    
of Law (DOL).  She confirmed that the  regulations would not                                                                    
be reviewed  at the  March board  meeting because  they were                                                                    
not  yet  ready.  The  department  did  not  take  a  formal                                                                    
position  but it  had felt  obligated to  explore the  issue                                                                    
after media  coverage in July  of 2023 highlighted  that the                                                                    
Juneau School  District (JSD) had exceeded  the funding cap.                                                                    
She  noted  that Alaska  statute  clearly  defined both  the                                                                    
minimum  required local  contribution and  the maximum  cap.                                                                    
The  department's intent  was  to  ensure equitable  funding                                                                    
across the state in alignment with the foundation formula.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  why the  state had  decided to                                                                    
join  litigation concerning  Section  504 accommodations  in                                                                    
Texas.  She  noted  that the  accommodations  were  not  for                                                                    
special  education  students  but for  students  with  other                                                                    
specific  needs requiring  support  under  federal law.  She                                                                    
expressed concern  that if the  lawsuit prevailed,  it could                                                                    
jeopardize   school  districts'   ability  to   provide  504                                                                    
accommodations. She  asked whether  DEED had  been consulted                                                                    
by DOL before Alaska joined  the lawsuit. She hoped that the                                                                    
state would not succeed in the litigation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop responded  that  she  had not  provided                                                                    
input into the decision to join the lawsuit.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked  for more information about                                                                    
the  projected  number  of  students   in  both  public  and                                                                    
correspondence schools.  He inquired whether  the department                                                                    
had data disaggregated by high  school graduates exiting the                                                                    
system  and  by  new   kindergarten  students  entering  the                                                                    
system.  He  asked whether  the  numbers  were available  or                                                                    
could be provided.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Bishop  responded   that  Legislative  Finance                                                                    
Division  (LFD)  Director   Alexei  Painter  had  previously                                                                    
provided data  indicating that the  birth rates in  2020 for                                                                    
children  entering  kindergarten  were  significantly  lower                                                                    
than  the  birth rates  for  students  graduating from  high                                                                    
school. She stated  that the decline in  enrollment could be                                                                    
attributed in  part to lower  birth rates. She asked  if Ms.                                                                    
Morrison had reviewed the data.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Morrison added  that the  data was  lumped together  by                                                                    
grade as  follows: kindergarten  through third  grade, sixth                                                                    
through eighth  grade, and ninth through  twelfth grade. She                                                                    
clarified  that the  data were  not available  by individual                                                                    
grade  level.  She stated  that  she  would check  with  the                                                                    
department's data  team to  determine whether  the requested                                                                    
information could be extracted and provided.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:23:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie  expressed her gratitude for  the Head                                                                    
Start and Parents as Teachers  programs. She shared that her                                                                    
two daughters  had participated,  and the programs  had been                                                                    
helpful.  She   relayed  that   many  rural   districts  had                                                                    
requested  that  the  department  consider  reinstating  co-                                                                    
curricular  activities and  additional counseling  services.                                                                    
She  asked  if  the  department  had  any  comments  on  the                                                                    
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Bishop   responded  that   school   districts                                                                    
typically  did not  direct such  requests to  the department                                                                    
but instead  brought them to  the legislature.  She affirmed                                                                    
that  reinstating  counselors and  co-curricular  activities                                                                    
were  considered high  priorities by  school districts.  She                                                                    
emphasized  that  keeping  students  engaged  and  supported                                                                    
remained a significant focus for the department.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:24:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  thanked the presenters. He  reviewed the                                                                    
agenda for the following day's meeting.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB  53  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  55  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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