Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

02/14/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:33:20 PM Start
01:35:00 PM Overview: Fy26 Department Budget: Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs
02:34:33 PM Overview: Fy26 Department Budget: Department of Environmental Conservation
03:05:43 PM Presentation: Village Safe Water and Sewer
03:46:54 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 53 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 54 APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 55 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY26 Department Budget by Craig TELECONFERENCED
Christenson, Deputy Commissioner; and Bob
Ernisse, Administrative Services Director,
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs
+ Overview: FY26 Department Budget by Christina TELECONFERENCED
Carpenter, Acting Commissioner; and Megan Kohler,
Administrative Services Director, Department of
Environmental Conservation
+ Presentation: Village Safe Water and Sewer by TELECONFERENCED
Gene McCabe, Director; Carrie Bohan, Program
Manager, Division of Water, Department of
Environmental Conservation
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     making  reappropriations;  making appropriations  under                                                                    
     art.  IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution  of  the State  of                                                                    
     Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 54                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations   and   other   appropriations;   making                                                                    
     reappropriations;  making appropriations  to capitalize                                                                    
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 55                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW:  FY26 DEPARTMENT  BUDGET: DEPARTMENT  OF MILITARY                                                                  
AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG  CHRISTENSON,   DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
MILITARY AND  VETERANS' AFFAIRS,  noted that several  of his                                                                    
colleagues  were present  and available  to assist  with the                                                                    
presentation. He  explained that  the budget  for Department                                                                    
of  Military and  Veterans  Affairs  (DMVA) remained  small,                                                                    
which  it  had been  for  several  years. There  were  three                                                                    
requests  in  the  budget  and  only  one  of  the  requests                                                                    
required  general funds,  totaling  $175,000. He  introduced                                                                    
the  PowerPoint   presentation  "FY2026   Department  Budget                                                                    
Overview"  dated  February  14,  2025  (copy  on  file).  He                                                                    
advanced  to  slide  2,  which  displayed  the  department's                                                                    
mission  statement. He  continued to  slide 3  and explained                                                                    
that DMVA encompassed the Alaska  Air National Guard (AANG),                                                                    
the  Army National  Guard (ANG),  the  Division of  Homeland                                                                    
Security  and  Emergency   Management  (DHSEM),  the  Alaska                                                                    
Military Youth  Academy (AMYA), and the  Office of Veterans'                                                                    
Affairs (OVA).  He stated that  Major General  Torrence Saxe                                                                    
served as  the Adjutant  General and  oversaw both  AANG and                                                                    
ANG.  In  addition, Major  General  Saxe  functioned as  the                                                                    
commissioner of the department's six divisions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Christenson  explained   that  the   Alaska  Aerospace                                                                    
Corporation  (AAC) was  administratively  housed within  the                                                                    
department and but  received minimal administrative support.                                                                    
He emphasized that the corporation  was a national asset and                                                                    
had not received  state funds since 2014.  He explained that                                                                    
AAC  was  one of  four  vertical  launch facilities  in  the                                                                    
nation, with  its funding primarily  coming from  the United                                                                    
States  Army,  the  Missile  Defense  Agency,  and  civilian                                                                    
launch contracts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson directed  attention to  the Alaska  Wing of                                                                    
the  Civil  Air Patrol  (CAP),  which  he described  as  the                                                                    
official auxiliary  of the United  States Air  Force (USAF).                                                                    
He noted that the  department maintained a close partnership                                                                    
with  CAP,  but  it  did   not  exercise  control  over  the                                                                    
organization.  The state  administered a  pass-through grant                                                                    
of  approximately $250,000  to  assist  with leasing  hangar                                                                    
space,  utilities, and  other  expenses.  He explained  that                                                                    
while  CAP  was  not  technically   part  of  the  organized                                                                    
militia,  the department  considered  it to  be  part of  it                                                                    
because  CAP  was  closely  integrated  with  the  organized                                                                    
militia and attended militia meetings.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  relayed that  the Alaska  Organized Militia                                                                    
(AOM)  was represented  on  the slide  by  dashed lines.  He                                                                    
stated  that  AOM included  ANG,  the  Alaska State  Defense                                                                    
Force  (ASDF),  and  the  Alaska  Naval  Militia  (ANM).  He                                                                    
relayed  that   ANG  was  highly  operational   compared  to                                                                    
national  guards in  other states.  He explained  that while                                                                    
guard members  in many states typically  trained on weekends                                                                    
and  during  limited  summer periods,  Alaska  maintained  a                                                                    
large  number of  full-time  members  who supported  24-hour                                                                    
missions. He indicated  that combat search and  rescue was a                                                                    
primary  mission of  ANG  and  members frequently  performed                                                                    
civilian  rescue operations  statewide. Additional  missions                                                                    
included  air  refueling,  strategic and  tactical  airlift,                                                                    
missile warning,  space surveillance,  and air  defense. The                                                                    
personnel stationed  at the Clear  Space Force  Station were                                                                    
responsible for tracking  inbound intercontinental ballistic                                                                    
missiles and  space objects. Air defense  operations focused                                                                    
on monitoring  aircraft and objects below  the space domain.                                                                    
He  stated that  AANG  consisted of  approximately 2,400  to                                                                    
2,500 aviators and civilian staff members.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson continued  that  AANG's  primary focus  was                                                                    
infantry and  aviation. He relayed that  aviation crews were                                                                    
stationed in Nome, Juneau,  Bethel, Anchorage, and Fairbanks                                                                    
and the geographic spread  had strengthened the department's                                                                    
aviation  capability.  Additional responsibilities  included                                                                    
ballistic  missile  defense  at   Fort  Greely  and  various                                                                    
support  functions such  as  engineering, medical  services,                                                                    
and  military  police.  He   reported  that  AANG  contained                                                                    
approximately 1,700 personnel.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  continued  to   address  ASDF,  which  was                                                                    
composed entirely of volunteers.  He relayed that membership                                                                    
had  grown from  about 50  members to  225 members  over the                                                                    
past  six  years and  the  force  maintained 25  detachments                                                                    
across   the  state.   He   explained   that  members   were                                                                    
compensated  when  activated  to   state  active  duty,  but                                                                    
weekend  drills,  annual  training, and  other  duties  were                                                                    
performed  on   a  volunteer  basis.  The   force  had  been                                                                    
instrumental  in responding  to recent  disasters, including                                                                    
wildfires,  earthquakes,  floods,  and  winter  storms.  The                                                                    
department's goal  was to expand  ASDF to  approximately 500                                                                    
members  and  to place  small  teams  in most  villages  and                                                                    
smaller communities  in the state.  He relayed  that members                                                                    
would    receive    training     in    incident    response,                                                                    
communications,  community support,  and disaster  response.                                                                    
He asserted  that having  trained personnel  already present                                                                    
in  affected  communities   was  critical,  especially  when                                                                    
storms  or  flooding  prevented  immediate  deployment  from                                                                    
outside.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:42:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  explained that  ANM  rounded  out AOM  and                                                                    
included approximately 50 members,  most of whom were Marine                                                                    
or Navy reservists. Membership also  included a few retirees                                                                    
serving to  maintain continuity.  He clarified that  ANM did                                                                    
not  operate  boats  or ships  but  provided  technical  and                                                                    
general  assistance as  needed.  He shared  that members  of                                                                    
ASDF, ANM,  and ANG had  all responded to the  recent floods                                                                    
in Juneau.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  continued  by detailing  the  department's                                                                    
state divisions,  which included  OVA, AMYA, DHSEM,  the Air                                                                    
Guard  Facilities  Maintenance,  and Army  Guard  Facilities                                                                    
Maintenance. He explained that the  state employed staff who                                                                    
provided  maintenance  for   hangars,  armories,  and  other                                                                    
buildings through  a master cooperative agreement.  He noted                                                                    
that the funding was typically  shared between the state and                                                                    
federal governments, but the  positions were fully federally                                                                    
funded in some cases.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  stated that OVA  was a small  and effective                                                                    
office with six staff  members who connected Alaska's 70,000                                                                    
veterans to  the benefits  earned through  military service.                                                                    
He noted  that the  office also  provided grants  to veteran                                                                    
service  organizations.   He  explained  that  AMYA   was  a                                                                    
tuition-free, quasi-military school  designed to serve youth                                                                    
aged 15 to  18 who were at risk of  not graduating from high                                                                    
school.  He  emphasized  that  the  academy  was  neither  a                                                                    
juvenile  justice  facility  nor  a  treatment  center,  and                                                                    
participation was  entirely voluntary. The academy  held two                                                                    
residential classes  per year at Camp  Carroll in Anchorage,                                                                    
each  lasting 22  weeks.  There was  also  a 24-month  post-                                                                    
residential phase during which  counselors stayed in contact                                                                    
with  participants to  help the  students remain  in school,                                                                    
secure  employment,  or  obtain  other  needed  support.  He                                                                    
outlined  the academy's  core  focus  areas, which  included                                                                    
high  school  studies,   responsible  citizenship,  academic                                                                    
performance,  job and  life  skills,  physical fitness,  and                                                                    
leadership and followership.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson continued to  the Division of Administrative                                                                    
Services (DAS),  which was considered  the "engine  room" of                                                                    
the department. He  shared that DAS was  responsible for IT,                                                                    
procurement,    fiscal     management,    accounting,    and                                                                    
administrative functions.  The next entity was  DHSEM, which                                                                    
housed  the State  Emergency  Operations  Center (SEOC)  and                                                                    
provided training, preparedness  events, and assistance with                                                                    
exercises.  He  noted that  the  division  had conducted  88                                                                    
classes  and trained  approximately  1,500 individuals  over                                                                    
the  past year  and had  hosted 22  preparedness events.  He                                                                    
added that its most  visible function was its administration                                                                    
of  the  state's  disaster   program,  which  provided  both                                                                    
individual  and public  assistance when  disasters occurred.                                                                    
He  emphasized  that  the  division  strongly  engaged  with                                                                    
communities during disasters.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster   expressed   his  appreciation   to   the                                                                    
department  for  its  responsiveness and  dedication  during                                                                    
disasters. He was grateful for  the speed at which personnel                                                                    
were  deployed to  Northwest Alaska  communities during  the                                                                    
recent  Merbok  storm.  There was  also  a  recent  aircraft                                                                    
incident that  involved the deployment of  military aircraft                                                                    
including the C-130, Black Hawk, and Pave Hawk.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  continued to slide  4 which included  a few                                                                    
highlights from  2024. He stated  that SEOC had  been highly                                                                    
active  in  2024 and  had  responded  to 140  incidents.  He                                                                    
clarified   that   while    some   incidents   were   minor,                                                                    
departmental  assistance was  still  necessary. He  reported                                                                    
that there were 12  state-declared disasters and 3 federally                                                                    
declared  disasters  in  2024.  He  continued  to  AMYA  and                                                                    
reiterated that  the academy  held two  classes in  2024 and                                                                    
graduated  a  total  of  244   cadets.  He  shared  that  94                                                                    
graduates earned  a General  Education Diploma  (GED), eight                                                                    
earned a  high school  diploma, and 26  had earned  both. He                                                                    
explained that  some cadets arrived  at the  academy without                                                                    
sufficient credits  to graduate and  used the program  as an                                                                    
opportunity to get  back on track before  returning to their                                                                    
original schools.  As a result, many  cadets completed their                                                                    
studies elsewhere,  which accounted for the  lower number of                                                                    
diplomas issued directly by the  academy. He shared that the                                                                    
cadets had  collectively lost 6,300 pounds  over the 22-week                                                                    
program, averaging  25 pounds per  cadet, through  a regimen                                                                    
of physical  fitness and healthy eating.  He emphasized that                                                                    
the   academy  was   not  only   educational   but  also   a                                                                    
comprehensive life development program.  He extended an open                                                                    
invitation  to  any  legislator interested  in  touring  the                                                                    
academy.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  reported  that  OVA  processed  4,160  new                                                                    
disability claims  through the  U.S. Department  of Veterans                                                                    
Affairs during the past year  and approximately $100 million                                                                    
per in  disability payments had  been distributed  to Alaska                                                                    
veterans. He  added that the  office also  assisted veterans                                                                    
with  home  loans, health  care,  education,  and G.I.  Bill                                                                    
benefits. Additionally, the office  had sponsored the second                                                                    
annual  Honoring Women  Veterans event  in Anchorage,  which                                                                    
had over  100 attendees. He  noted that the  upcoming year's                                                                    
event would  be held  in May in  Fairbanks. He  relayed that                                                                    
the Alaska  Veterans Cemetery in Salcha  was progressing and                                                                    
that  most  of  the  major environmental  studies  had  been                                                                    
completed. He projected that  the cemetery could potentially                                                                    
open in FY 28.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  indicated that the  image on the  left side                                                                    
of the  slide showed the  coordinated response in  Juneau by                                                                    
approximately 60 members  of ANG, ASDF, and  ANM. The center                                                                    
photo was  of a  103-year-old World War  II veteran  who had                                                                    
never applied for veteran benefits  before. He reported that                                                                    
OVA had  learned about the  veteran's situation  and reached                                                                    
out to offer  assistance and he was  now receiving benefits.                                                                    
The  photo on  the right  was of  a graduation  ceremony for                                                                    
AMYA,  which he  found  to  be a  moving  event. The  recent                                                                    
ceremonies  had  been held  at  venues  such as  the  Alaska                                                                    
Airlines  Center in  Anchorage  and   he  stressed that  all                                                                    
legislators were encouraged to attend.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster  remarked   that  he   had  been   in  the                                                                    
legislature for 16 years and  he had finally attended one of                                                                    
the  academy's graduations  the previous  year and  had been                                                                    
deeply  impressed.   He  encouraged  others  to   attend  if                                                                    
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  continued  to   slide  5  which  contained                                                                    
additional  highlights  from  2024. He  relayed  that  ANG's                                                                    
Counterdrug  Support  Program  partnered  with  federal  and                                                                    
state   agencies  to   provide  analytical   and  logistical                                                                    
support.  The program  contributed  to  the interdiction  of                                                                    
fentanyl,    methamphetamine,     and    cocaine,    removed                                                                    
approximately    $650,000   in    illicit   currency    from                                                                    
circulation,  and  supported  the distribution  of  naloxone                                                                    
kits. He  indicated that a  future slide would  provide more                                                                    
detail on  the program. Additionally, ANG  had conducted 148                                                                    
missions in  2024 and had  been credited with 199  saves. He                                                                    
stated  that AANG  was  prepared to  respond  at a  moment's                                                                    
notice to  refuel tankers when foreign  aircraft from Russia                                                                    
and China  approached Alaska's  borders. He  emphasized that                                                                    
the mission was ongoing.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  understood that DMVA had  been closing                                                                    
some of the armories around the  state and he had heard that                                                                    
additional closures  were expected. He asked  if the current                                                                    
and future  closures would  impact SEOC's  disaster response                                                                    
capabilities.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  responded   that  the  armory  divestiture                                                                    
program  had  been underway  for  more  than a  decade.  The                                                                    
program was  initiated due to  declining Army  troop numbers                                                                    
in  many areas  and the  high cost  of maintaining  armories                                                                    
that  no longer  had  assigned soldiers.  He  shared that  a                                                                    
decision to  begin divesting the  facilities was  made years                                                                    
ago. He explained  that the department had  identified 18 to                                                                    
20 armories  to retain in strategic  locations, primarily in                                                                    
hub  communities. The  department's  model  was a  "hub-and-                                                                    
spoke"  system which  meant that  as long  as robust  armory                                                                    
support  existed  in  the designated  hubs,  the  department                                                                    
could  effectively project  resources outward  from the  hub                                                                    
locations.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  reported that four additional  armories had                                                                    
been divested  in the current  year and that 16  remained in                                                                    
the  queue  for  future  divestiture.  When  an  armory  was                                                                    
divested, ownership  was transferred  back to  the community                                                                    
through an  extensive process that  varied depending  on the                                                                    
party that  had originally built  or owned the  facility. He                                                                    
noted that the  U.S. Army Corps of Engineers  often played a                                                                    
significant role  in that process.  The maintenance  cost of                                                                    
the  unused armories  was not  justified and  the department                                                                    
could operate  more effectively  using its  refined hub-and-                                                                    
spoke approach.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:55:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp  appreciated   the  explanation   but                                                                    
thought it  was important to understand  that the department                                                                    
was  divesting  armories.  He  thought   that  many  of  the                                                                    
armories  that  would likely  be  divested  were located  in                                                                    
Western  Alaska  and  he suggested  that  communities  would                                                                    
benefit from knowing if their local facility was affected.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Christenson  responded   by   listing  the   remaining                                                                    
divestiture  sites:  Akiachak,  Chefornak,  Elim,  Kasigluk,                                                                    
Kivalina,  Kotlik,   Koyukuk,  Quinhagak,   Newtok,  Noatak,                                                                    
Nunapitchuk,  Selawik,  Saint Michael,  Stebbins,  Tuluksak,                                                                    
and Tanana.  He suggested that the  department's legislative                                                                    
liaison could provide a more  detailed list in writing after                                                                    
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked   for  more  information  about                                                                    
disability  claims  processed  through the  Veteran  Service                                                                    
Officers  (VSOs).  He  recalled  that  the  legislature  had                                                                    
approved an increase  in VSO salaries the  previous year and                                                                    
asked  whether   the  increase  had  resulted   in  improved                                                                    
retention or efficiency within the program.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson confirmed that  the legislature had approved                                                                    
a salary increase  for VSOs the previous  year. He explained                                                                    
that the  department administered  a grant  program totaling                                                                    
$1,260,000,  which   was  distributed  among   four  veteran                                                                    
service   organizations.    The   funding    was   allocated                                                                    
proportionally based on the number  of VSOs employed by each                                                                    
organization. Currently, there were  18 VSOs operating under                                                                    
the  grants. He  stated that  the department  would continue                                                                    
monitoring the  impact of the  salary increase  on retention                                                                    
and  program   effectiveness.  The  increase   approved  the                                                                    
previous year  amounted to approximately $7,000  per VSO. He                                                                    
noted that the additional  funding enabled the department to                                                                    
establish a  new officer position in  Ketchikan. He remarked                                                                    
that the funding had been very helpful.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked   whether  the  department  had                                                                    
successfully filled the VSO position in Ketchikan.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson responded in the affirmative.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked  if   the  department  had  the                                                                    
appropriate level of authorized  receipt authority to secure                                                                    
the  necessary  federal  funding  for  the  Alaska  Veterans                                                                    
Cemetery.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  deferred the  question to  the department's                                                                    
Administrative Services Director.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:58:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB  ERNISSE, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES DIRECTOR,  DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  MILITARY  AND  VETERANS'  AFFAIRS,  responded  that  the                                                                    
department currently had the  necessary receipt authority to                                                                    
proceed with construction of the cemetery.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp understood  that the  legislature must                                                                    
authorize  the department  to  receive  federal funding.  He                                                                    
asked  whether any  adjustments were  needed to  the current                                                                    
authority level to complete the project.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ernisse responded that the  department had the necessary                                                                    
level of receipt authority.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  asked   if   the  divested   armory                                                                    
properties  were transferred  to  local communities,  school                                                                    
districts, or simply shuttered.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Christenson  responded   that   the  facilities   were                                                                    
transferred to  the communities  through a  federal transfer                                                                    
process.  He offered  reassurance that  the properties  were                                                                    
typically given  to tribes,  municipalities, or  other local                                                                    
entities rather than being shuttered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  understood  communities  in  his  district                                                                    
often sought  the use of  former armory  infrastructure. The                                                                    
facilities  were  repurposed  for  functions  such  as  city                                                                    
offices  or  multipurpose  community buildings.  He  thought                                                                    
that communities  had generally responded positively  to the                                                                    
divestiture program.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  whether   the  16  villages  Mr.                                                                    
Christenson  previously   listed  were  villages   that  had                                                                    
already had  their armories closed, or  whether the villages                                                                    
were upcoming closures.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson   responded  that  the  16   sites  he  had                                                                    
previously  listed were  the  final  armories still  pending                                                                    
divestiture.  He  noted that  the  state  originally had  88                                                                    
armories  and   approximately  18  had  been   retained.  He                                                                    
emphasized  that  the  vast majority  of  the  armories  had                                                                    
already been divested.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked if the  armories were relics of the                                                                    
World War II era or the Cold War era.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  responded that the armories  were generally                                                                    
smaller structures dating from the  World War II era through                                                                    
the  1960s.  He clarified  that  the  facilities were  small                                                                    
buildings with one or two rooms.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster added  that the  armories  in his  district                                                                    
resembled  large Conex  boxes.  The  buildings were  perhaps                                                                    
twice the the size of a  standard Conex unit and were around                                                                    
16 feet  by 40 feet.  He noted  that the size  and structure                                                                    
was modest.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  commented  that   he  found  the  VSO                                                                    
program  extremely  beneficial  to the  state,  particularly                                                                    
because Alaska  had the highest  per capita of  veterans. He                                                                    
thought  veterans deserved  better programming  and services                                                                    
throughout the  state. He noted that  Ketchikan had received                                                                    
a  VSO  and  funding  for  the position.  He  asked  if  the                                                                    
position was  specifically for Ketchikan  or if  the officer                                                                    
would also be responsible for Craig.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  responded that the Ketchikan  position also                                                                    
served Craig as the position  was responsible for the Prince                                                                    
of  Wales and  Ketchikan regions.  He offered  to follow  up                                                                    
with more information about the position.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  wondered   if  there  was  additional                                                                    
information about the position.  He suggested discussing the                                                                    
position offline.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson would follow up.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:04:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ernisse continued  on slide  6 which  included a  high-                                                                    
level  comparison  of  the  FY  22 actuals  and  the  FY  26                                                                    
governor requests.  He noted  that the  unrestricted general                                                                    
fund (UGF)  budget had remained fairly  consistent, with one                                                                    
significant change  being the transfer of  the Alaska Public                                                                    
Safety Communication  Services (APSCS) to the  Department of                                                                    
Public  Safety  (DPS)  in  FY   23.  The  only  request  for                                                                    
additional  UGF  was a  funding  swap  for the  Division  of                                                                    
Homeland  Security  and  Emergency Management  (DHSEM).  The                                                                    
request would  remove $800,000 in federal  receipt authority                                                                    
and  add $500,000  in interagency  receipts and  $300,000 in                                                                    
capital   interagency  receipts.   He  clarified   that  the                                                                    
decrease  in  federal  authority  was due  to  most  federal                                                                    
grants  moving to  the capital  budget, and  the interagency                                                                    
receipts  were  necessary due  to  an  increase in  declared                                                                    
disasters  and  the  ability  to  allocate  payroll  to  the                                                                    
disasters or grants.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin understood that  ASDF had grown to 225                                                                    
members and the ultimate goal  was to reach 500 members. She                                                                    
asked how large  the force had been over the  past few years                                                                    
and how quickly it was growing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  responded  he  would follow  up  with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin asked if it was growing.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson responded that the  force had 50 members six                                                                    
years ago,  then grew to  150, and  now had 225  members. He                                                                    
emphasized that while the goal  was to reach 500, the growth                                                                    
was gradual and progression was slow.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ernisse  continued on  slide 8  and addressed  a request                                                                    
under the Office of the  Adjutant General (OAG) for $175,000                                                                    
in  general  funds to  expand  the  operations of  AOM.  The                                                                    
funding  would be  used to  increase emergency  response and                                                                    
outreach capabilities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:07:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  continued on  slide  8  and remarked  that                                                                    
Alaska  was  one of  the  most  strategic locations  on  the                                                                    
planet.  He stated  that a  significant  amount of  activity                                                                    
moved  through  the  state and  Alaska  was  militarily  and                                                                    
economically  strategic.  He  explained that  attention  had                                                                    
been recently  focused on China,  Taiwan, Russia,  and North                                                                    
Korea. He  relayed that it was  DMVA's to be prepared  for a                                                                    
future conflict.  One of the  most significant  projects the                                                                    
department was working  on was the build-out  of a statewide                                                                    
high  frequency radio  network. If  a "bad  actor" disrupted                                                                    
communications, the state would need  to have the ability to                                                                    
communicate  with  its  communities. He  relayed  that  ANG,                                                                    
ASDF, CAP,  and the Coast  Guard had formed a  working group                                                                    
to  pool  resources  and  develop  a  high  frequency  radio                                                                    
network  across  the  state   which  would  allow  continued                                                                    
communication  in   the  event   of  an  outage.   The  full                                                                    
implementation would  take several  years but some  parts of                                                                    
the network were already operational.  Some sites needed new                                                                    
antennas, while  others had antennas  and radios  but lacked                                                                    
trained  operators.  He  stated that  there  were  locations                                                                    
where build-out  was planned for  the future. He  noted that                                                                    
it  was  important  to  be able  to  respond  to  undeclared                                                                    
disasters  and  to  obtain supplies  and  training  so  that                                                                    
members  of AOM  could assist  Alaskans during  disasters or                                                                    
emergencies.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster asked  whether  the multi-year  description                                                                    
applied  to  the  build-out  of  the  high  frequency  radio                                                                    
network or to the funding  request. He asked if the $175,000                                                                    
request was meant to cover  three years or if the department                                                                    
intended to request the same amount in future years.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  replied that  the request  was not  for one                                                                    
year or three years, but the  request was for the funding to                                                                    
be included  in the  department's base budget.  He confirmed                                                                    
that the  high frequency radio network  build-out would take                                                                    
multiple  years  and  there would  be  increased  needs  for                                                                    
training, recruitment, and facilities as ANM and ASDF grew.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked  whether the  high  frequency  radio                                                                    
network  was  separate from  the  Alaska  Land Mobile  Radio                                                                    
(ALMR) system.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson responded in the affirmative.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked why the request  was located in                                                                    
OAG rather than in DHSEM.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  responded that  ASDF and  ANM did  not have                                                                    
their  own budget  components and  were part  of AOM  within                                                                    
OAG.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   commented  that  the   request  was                                                                    
confusing.  She  thought that  that  referring  to it  as  a                                                                    
multi-year  request implied  that it  was a  capital request                                                                    
that allowed  multi-year spending. She asked  if the $50,000                                                                    
portion  of  the  request  was   a  budget  allocation.  She                                                                    
understood that the AOM did  not have its own allocation and                                                                    
was  under the  Adjunct General's  office, but  she wondered                                                                    
why  the funding  would  not be  included  in the  emergency                                                                    
response section of the budget if it was for disasters.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:13:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ernisse responded  that it  was  important to  remember                                                                    
that  the  request was  to  expand  operations for  AOM.  He                                                                    
stated that the build-out of  high frequency radios was part                                                                    
of  the  expansion  but  it  was not  the  totality  of  the                                                                    
request.  The  department was  requesting  the  funds to  be                                                                    
added to  the base budget  going forward. He thought  it was                                                                    
appropriate  for  the  request   to  be  located  under  the                                                                    
Adjutant  General because  it covered  the entirety  of AOM,                                                                    
not  only   disaster  responses.  He  reiterated   that  AOM                                                                    
represented a significant part of the department overall.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  remarked that  AOM was an  entity that                                                                    
he had begun to hear more  about over the last few years. He                                                                    
was aware  of AOM  helping during recent  natural disasters.                                                                    
He asked how the  department was messaging the justification                                                                    
for the spending  and showing Alaskans how  it benefited the                                                                    
state.  He asked  how the  department was  carrying out  its                                                                    
communication.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson replied  that AOM  included ANG,  ASDF, and                                                                    
ANM.   He  relayed   that  those   entities  comprised   the                                                                    
statutorily defined AOM.  The majority of AOM  was ANG, with                                                                    
approximately  4,000  members.  He  stated that  ANG  had  a                                                                    
robust  advertising and  recruiting  campaign  and that  its                                                                    
recruiting numbers  were strong. He explained  that ASDF was                                                                    
most  active  at  the  community  level,  and  it  typically                                                                    
participated  in community  events, festivals,  and parades.                                                                    
He noted  that ANM  consisted of  Navy or  Marine reservists                                                                    
and  consisted of  a  small group  of  individuals who  were                                                                    
already  active  and  connected   and  it  did  not  require                                                                    
extensive recruiting.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  stated  that   prior  to  becoming  a                                                                    
legislator,  he  was an  assembly  member  in Ketchikan  and                                                                    
there had  been an event  in the community where  members of                                                                    
ASDF  had responded  and members  of  the community  members                                                                    
questioned  who  the  personnel  were.  The  general  public                                                                    
usually associated  such appearances with ANG  but there had                                                                    
been an  increase in participation  by ASDF. There  had also                                                                    
been  increasing awareness  of ANM.  He stated  that he  was                                                                    
trying  to  understand  what the  department  was  doing  to                                                                    
improve  communication with  communities  about the  various                                                                    
military  groups.  He  wanted   the  department  to  clearly                                                                    
communicate to  communities who  the individuals  in uniform                                                                    
were, why they were present,  and what their mission was. He                                                                    
asked   what   the   department  was   doing   to   increase                                                                    
communication.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:17:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANGELA LAFLAMME,  SPECIAL ASSISTANT, DEPARTMENT  OF MILITARY                                                                    
AND VETERANS'  AFFAIRS, responded  that some of  the actions                                                                    
the  department  had taken  during  the  past year  included                                                                    
outreach trips  in coordination with ANG  and its recruiters                                                                    
to  communities across  the state.  The department  included                                                                    
personnel  from  all  the organizations  under  AOM  in  the                                                                    
outreach  trips  to  facilitate  engagement  with  community                                                                    
members prior  to an emergency  event. She stated  that part                                                                    
of  the   funding  request   would  support   outreach.  She                                                                    
explained that if the department  was unable to use military                                                                    
vessels for travel, the funds  would allow transportation of                                                                    
personnel  to provide  outreach  touchpoints in  communities                                                                    
ahead of any emergency or event.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Bynum  stated   that  he   was  trying   to                                                                    
understand  the reasoning  behind the  funding, particularly                                                                    
because there  was an  additional funding  request included.                                                                    
The benefit of  the additional funding was not  clear to his                                                                    
community  of Ketchikan.  He  received  questions about  the                                                                    
funding during his time on  the assembly and he continued to                                                                    
receive  questions  as  a  legislator.   He  was  trying  to                                                                    
determine  how  to  best   communicate  the  information  to                                                                    
communities.  If  the  department  was  already  engaged  in                                                                    
communication efforts,  it would help  to be able  to direct                                                                    
constituents  appropriately.  He  asked   if  there  was  an                                                                    
opportunity  to utilize  personnel from  AOM to  assist with                                                                    
VSOs  and  better  serve veterans  in  the  communities.  He                                                                    
wondered which entity would be best suited for the task.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Laflamme  responded that the  VSO program was  a federal                                                                    
program with  specific requirements. In order  to qualify, a                                                                    
person had  to already be  a member of an  organization such                                                                    
as ASDF or  ANM. She emphasized that the  VSO program itself                                                                    
was  federally governed  and subject  to strict  eligibility                                                                    
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  asked the department to  provide more                                                                    
detail  regarding ASDF's  community  involvement. She  asked                                                                    
the  department  to  describe   ASDF's  involvement  in  the                                                                    
Wrangell flood, a recent earthquake  that ASDF had responded                                                                    
to,  and more  information on  ASDF's response  to a  recent                                                                    
avalanche in  Eagle River. She  explained that she  had been                                                                    
skeptical about ASDF  for years and it took time  for her to                                                                    
recognize its  importance. The state did  not have personnel                                                                    
stationed in every isolated community  and she believed that                                                                    
ASDF was  valuable, but she  thought that  communication and                                                                    
messaging  could   be  improved.   She  stressed   that  she                                                                    
supported  the  budget increment  and  DMVA.  She asked  Mr.                                                                    
Christenson  to  explain  why   the  department's  work  was                                                                    
important.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson responded  that AOM included ANG  and ANM in                                                                    
addition to  ASDF. When the  department determined  how many                                                                    
personnel were needed  to respond properly to  a disaster, a                                                                    
call was  issued to all components  of AOM and a  variety of                                                                    
volunteers were deployed. He relayed  that ASDF members were                                                                    
often the  first to arrive  during emergencies  because many                                                                    
members already lived  near a given affected  area. In flood                                                                    
situations,  debris management  had typically  been a  major                                                                    
responsibility   for  members.   He   explained  that   once                                                                    
volunteers were  activated, they  were no  longer considered                                                                    
volunteers  and were  instead placed  on active  state duty.                                                                    
Responsibilities during  floods included  debris management,                                                                    
assisting  with sheltering,  and addressing  other immediate                                                                    
needs.  In situations  involving avalanches,  the department                                                                    
would  likely not  assign members  to  debris management  in                                                                    
hazardous  conditions,  but  members would  provide  support                                                                    
services for displaced individuals.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard understood  that the  funding request                                                                    
had  been  placed  under  the  Office  of  the  Commissioner                                                                    
because of  the structure of military  personnel management.                                                                    
She  explained that  Homeland Security  did not  oversee the                                                                    
military  personnel component  and that  ASDF, ANM,  and ANG                                                                    
were managed by the Adjutant  General within DMVA. She asked                                                                    
if ASDF members  also helped in other areas  such as traffic                                                                    
direction.   She  thought   that  such   tasks  were   often                                                                    
overlooked but were valuable.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  responded in the affirmative.  He clarified                                                                    
that   although  the   members   did  not   engage  in   law                                                                    
enforcement,  they supported  law  enforcement personnel  by                                                                    
taking  on  responsibilities  such  as  traffic  duties  and                                                                    
parking management. He noted that  such assistance freed law                                                                    
enforcement  to  perform  other duties  during  events  like                                                                    
avalanches.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:25:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ernisse  continued  to slide  9,  which  contained  the                                                                    
department's  final request  for an  additional $200,000  in                                                                    
interagency  receipts   for  the  counterdrug   program.  He                                                                    
explained that the funding would  support a variety of state                                                                    
functions,  including  training,  outreach,  education,  and                                                                    
assistance  to  other  state  agencies  in  drug  prevention                                                                    
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  that  the request  appeared  to  be                                                                    
contingent  on funding  availability and  asked whether  any                                                                    
funding had been secured.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson  confirmed that  no  funding  had yet  been                                                                    
secured.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan asked  whether the  allocation had  a                                                                    
corresponding  request from  law  enforcement agencies.  She                                                                    
inquired whether  DPS had submitted  a related  request. She                                                                    
noted that  since the department  was not a  law enforcement                                                                    
entity,  any  expansion  in  counter-drug  activities  would                                                                    
presumably   require   increased  participation   from   law                                                                    
enforcement.  She  asked  whether the  interagency  receipts                                                                    
would  come  from  DPS  to   fund  positions  like  aviation                                                                    
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Christenson  responded that the counterdrug  program was                                                                    
not a  standalone program. He explained  that the department                                                                    
supported both state and federal  law enforcement and public                                                                    
health agencies. The program  included 18 military personnel                                                                    
who  worked as  analysts, aviators,  and outreach  staff. He                                                                    
clarified  that  the  individuals  were  not  in  charge  of                                                                    
operations, but were requested as  partners by agencies such                                                                    
as  DPS,  DOH, and  the  FBI.  He  stated that  the  funding                                                                    
request was  for interagency receipts which  would allow for                                                                    
flexibility.  For example,  if  DOH  required an  additional                                                                    
position beyond  the existing  18 and  had the  funding, the                                                                    
department could  place an individual on  active state duty.                                                                    
The  requested  authority  would  allow  the  department  to                                                                    
accept the funding.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Christenson   appreciated  the  committee's   time  and                                                                    
reiterated  would follow  up with  the information  that had                                                                    
been requested by members.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:29:09 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:33:41 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW:   FY26    DEPARTMENT   BUDGET:    DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                  
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:34:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEGAN KOHLER,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES  DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  ENVIRONMENTAL   CONSERVATION,  introduced   herself  and                                                                    
explained that  the presentation would begin  with testimony                                                                    
from Acting Commissioner Christina Carpenter.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINA  CARPENTER,  ACTING  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION  (via teleconference), introduced                                                                    
herself  and  the   PowerPoint  presentation  "Environmental                                                                    
Conservation  Overview" dated  February  14,  2025 (copy  on                                                                    
file).  She   advanced  to  slide   2  which   included  the                                                                    
Department  of Environmental  Conservation's (DEC)  mission.                                                                    
She noted  that while it  was often shortened  to protecting                                                                    
human health  and the environment,  DEC's full  mission also                                                                    
included  enhancing the  health,  safety,  and economic  and                                                                    
social well-being of Alaskans.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Carpenter  advanced  to slide  3  which  displayed  the                                                                    
department's  current  leadership  organization  chart.  She                                                                    
acknowledged  the  departure  of former  Commissioner  Jason                                                                    
Brune the  previous week  and noted  that she  was currently                                                                    
serving  as  the   department's  Acting  Commissioner  while                                                                    
continuing in her official role  as Deputy Commissioner. She                                                                    
noted Mr. Reese  Williams was in the  audience and explained                                                                    
that  he   had  recently   joined  the  department   as  the                                                                    
legislative  liaison.  She  shared  that  Mr.  Williams  had                                                                    
worked as a legislative aide  for years and brought valuable                                                                    
experience to the position.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Carpenter  added  that   the  department  was  actively                                                                    
recruiting for a public  information officer. She encouraged                                                                    
anyone  aware  of  qualified  candidates  interested  in  an                                                                    
external communications  role to  contact her  directly. She                                                                    
relayed  that the  rest of  the organizational  chart showed                                                                    
the   department's   five   division  directors   and   that                                                                    
collectively, she  and the five division  directors had over                                                                    
seventy years  of state experience. The  department employed                                                                    
individuals  with extensive  experience in  state budgeting,                                                                    
finance,   and   operations   processes,  and   members   of                                                                    
leadership   had    experience   in    emergency   planning,                                                                    
preparedness  response, and  the oil  and gas  industry. She                                                                    
expressed  that  she  was  proud  of  the  well-rounded  and                                                                    
diverse leadership team.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:39:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Carpenter  continued  to  slide   4  which  provided  a                                                                    
snapshot  of the  department's four  programmatic divisions:                                                                    
the Division  of Air  Quality (DAQ),  the Division  of Water                                                                    
(DW), the  Division of Environmental  Health (DEH),  and the                                                                    
Division  of  Spill  Prevention  and  Response  (SPAR).  She                                                                    
clarified  that  the  teams  were  responsible  for  issuing                                                                    
permits,  performing  inspections, and  providing  technical                                                                    
assistance to  regulated entities. She relayed  that DEC was                                                                    
relatively  small and  contained 556  positions. Within  the                                                                    
calendar  year, DEC  had  issued  9,553 permits,  approvals,                                                                    
certifications,  and  plan  reviews.   She  added  that  the                                                                    
department  had also  performed over  3,100 inspections  and                                                                    
site visits.  She noted  that in 2024,  staff had  access to                                                                    
over 29,000  hours of training, which  was important because                                                                    
staff  were responsible  for issuing  timely and  defensible                                                                    
permits  and  making  enforceable  regulatory  actions.  She                                                                    
explained  that  department   leadership  prioritized  staff                                                                    
training  and development  to  ensure  that employees  could                                                                    
successfully perform the work of the agency.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Carpenter advanced  to slide  5 and  shared that  DEC's                                                                    
budget request for  FY 26 was minimal. She  noted that there                                                                    
were only three items for  consideration and only one of the                                                                    
three involved  a request for UGF.  The first item was  a $3                                                                    
million   interagency   receipt  to   increase   interagency                                                                    
authority  within the  Division  of Administrative  Services                                                                    
(DAS). The request for increased  authority would respond to                                                                    
the FY  25 intent language  directing the separation  of the                                                                    
department's   annual   building    lease   operations   and                                                                    
maintenance  costs.  She  explained  that  the  increase  in                                                                    
authority  was a  structural change  that  was necessary  to                                                                    
allow  the transfer  of funds  from  various divisions.  The                                                                    
request did  not represent a  request for new money  but was                                                                    
strictly a receipt authority adjustment.  She added that the                                                                    
same applied to  the next request, which related  to DW. She                                                                    
explained that  it was a  technical cleanup  of authorities,                                                                    
exchanging  more restrictive  program receipt  authority for                                                                    
general fund program receipt authority.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Carpenter  explained  the  department  made  a  similar                                                                    
technical  cleanup in  DAQ. The  final budget  increment for                                                                    
consideration   was   a   $45,000  UGF   request   for   the                                                                    
appropriation  that  funded the  department's  Environmental                                                                    
Health Laboratory  (EHL) operations. She clarified  that the                                                                    
request was  intended to cover increased  utility costs over                                                                    
the years  that could no  longer be covered by  the existing                                                                    
operating  budget. She  noted that  several  members of  the                                                                    
committee had  already visited the  department's facilities.                                                                    
She explained  that EHL  was located  in East  Anchorage and                                                                    
was the department's only  state-owned building. She relayed                                                                    
that  the department  was proud  of  the analytical  testing                                                                    
performed at the  lab and it invited any  members, staff, or                                                                    
interested constituents to tour the facility.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler continued  on slide  6 and  reiterated that  the                                                                    
department's budget  was largely flat  and that most  of the                                                                    
changes were  related to  salary adjustments  and reductions                                                                    
from  one-time items.  She noted  that the  budget showed  a                                                                    
17.9  percent  increase  in   the  "other"  category,  which                                                                    
reflected an increase in  interagency receipts. The increase                                                                    
was  not a  budget  request  but a  mechanism  to allow  the                                                                    
department to  move funding. The department  had also listed                                                                    
out Infrastructure  Investment and  Jobs Act  (IIJA) funding                                                                    
separately, which had  been done since the  inception of the                                                                    
funding and was reflected in the upcoming slides.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  continued to slide  7 and the  appropriation for                                                                    
DAS,  which included  four allocations:  the  Office of  the                                                                    
Commissioner,  DAS,   State  Support  Services   (SSS),  and                                                                    
facilities   rent   for   non-state-owned   buildings.   She                                                                    
explained that  the request for SSS  primarily covered lease                                                                    
costs  and Department  of Administration  (DOA) chargebacks.                                                                    
She   added  that   facilities   rent  for   non-state-owned                                                                    
buildings  consolidated the  department's  lease costs  into                                                                    
one allocation.  The allocation included  salary adjustments                                                                    
and $3 million in interagency  receipts to track lease costs                                                                    
and  respond to  intent language.  She also  highlighted the                                                                    
reversal of the Juneau Air  Lab relocation, which had been a                                                                    
one-time increment of $87,000.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler continued  to slide  8 and  addressed costs  for                                                                    
facilities  operations   and  maintenance   for  state-owned                                                                    
facilities.  She  reiterated  that  the  appropriation  only                                                                    
applied to EHL in Anchorage.  She explained that the results                                                                    
delivery   unit  (RDU)   provided  funding   for  utilities,                                                                    
building  systems,  and  two full-time  labor,  trades,  and                                                                    
crafts   employees,  but   it   did   not  fund   laboratory                                                                    
operations. She  stated that  the department  was requesting                                                                    
$45,000  under  the RDU  to  reflect  the increased  utility                                                                    
costs since 2020.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  moved on to  DEH and  stated that there  were no                                                                    
significant changes  proposed for FY 26.  She explained that                                                                    
the  increases  in  the  budget  were  a  result  of  salary                                                                    
adjustments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  continued to slide  10 and DAQ. She  stated that                                                                    
there were  no significant changes in  the division's budget                                                                    
and that the increases reflected salary adjustments.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:47:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp   remarked  that   Fairbanks  recently                                                                    
received a  notice regarding  the State  Implementation Plan                                                                    
(STIP) about  the requirement for homebuyers  and sellers to                                                                    
pay for energy assessments on  their homes. He asked whether                                                                    
the  mandate would  apply to  the  entire state  or only  to                                                                    
residents of Fairbanks.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpenter asked for the question to be repeated.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp repeated the question.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpenter responded that the  requirement was limited to                                                                    
homeowners in the non-attainment area in Fairbanks.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  whether Ms.  Carpenter had  any                                                                    
information about the cost that  residents would be required                                                                    
to pay under the mandate.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpenter responded  that she did not know  the cost but                                                                    
she would follow up.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp explained  that  he  raised the  issue                                                                    
because the cost  of the energy rating  requirement might be                                                                    
an item  to consider  adjusting once the  information became                                                                    
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:50:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  continued on slide  11 and detailed  the funding                                                                    
for SPAR. She stated that  the funding was flat, although it                                                                    
might appear not to be.  She explained that the flat funding                                                                    
included a  reversal of funding  intended for SB  67 [passed                                                                    
in 2024], which created  the Firefighting Substance Disposal                                                                    
Reimbursement  Program,   but  the  funding  would   not  be                                                                    
returned to the department. The  program began on January 1,                                                                    
2025, and  the department continued to  utilize the funding.                                                                    
However,  the department  removed  one-time  items from  the                                                                    
base  budget  to  maintain  clear  accounting.  Any  unspent                                                                    
authority remaining  at the  end of FY  25 would  be carried                                                                    
forward into FY  26 and FY 27 and would  be reflected in the                                                                    
department's management plan.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked  for more information about                                                                    
the  perfluoroalkyl  and polyfluoroalkyl  substances  (PFAS)                                                                    
mitigation  program included  in  the  spill prevention  and                                                                    
response fund.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler   responded  that  she  could   provide  general                                                                    
information  but  would  need  to defer  to  subject  matter                                                                    
experts  for  technical  details.  She  explained  that  the                                                                    
program  allowed  local  and   community  entities  to  seek                                                                    
reimbursement for firefighting foam disposal.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  asked  whether there  were  any                                                                    
requirements  for  cities,  boroughs, or  municipalities  to                                                                    
qualify for the grant program.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler responded  that she  did not  have the  specific                                                                    
criteria  but  believed  the eligibility  requirements  were                                                                    
broad. She offered follow up in writing.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked what  the department's strategy was                                                                    
for  addressing decades  old PFAS  contamination now  that a                                                                    
law had been enacted to prohibit new PFAS chemicals.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpenter asked for the question to be repeated.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson asked what  the department's strategy was                                                                    
for addressing legacy PFAS  contamination. He clarified that                                                                    
he was  not referring  to SB  67, which  addressed disposal,                                                                    
but  rather  to  contamination   that  predated  the  bill's                                                                    
effective date.  He noted that  there was a portion  of Sand                                                                    
Lake where  PFAS had  been detected in  the water  table and                                                                    
had  crossed   over  Raspberry  Road.  He   asked  what  the                                                                    
department  was  doing  for Alaskans  in  areas  where  PFAS                                                                    
already  existed and  what  the strategy  was  for the  many                                                                    
communities that were likely impacted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpenter  replied that the department  had been working                                                                    
with  impacted  property  owners and  potential  responsible                                                                    
parties and was conducting well  sampling in some areas. She                                                                    
did not  have current  information about the  Raspberry Road                                                                    
site but  confirmed that  DEC had  been involved.  She could                                                                    
follow up with more detailed information.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:55:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  if there  was  a  recommendation                                                                    
regarding water  consumption in Gustavus. He  stated that he                                                                    
had spent  approximately ten  days in  Gustavus a  couple of                                                                    
summers  prior and  wanted  to know  whether  the water  was                                                                    
safe.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpenter  responded that she  would defer  the question                                                                    
to  subject   matter  experts  within  the   department  for                                                                    
information specific to the water in Gustavus.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan responded that  she could provide some                                                                    
insight.  She stated  that  she  had previously  represented                                                                    
Gustavus prior  to redistricting. She explained  that in the                                                                    
case   of  Gustavus,   the  contamination   cleanup  was   a                                                                    
Department  of Transportation  and  Public Facilities  (DOT)                                                                    
item.  She relayed  that DOT  was the  responsible party  in                                                                    
many  Alaskan communities  where PFAS  contamination existed                                                                    
on state  lands, particularly for testing  at airports where                                                                    
PFAS testing had been mandated.  The DEC budget item related                                                                    
to PFAS  involved a buyback provision  passed in legislation                                                                    
the previous year  [SB 67]. The bill allowed  for the return                                                                    
of unused  foam because the Federal  Aviation Administration                                                                    
(FAA) no  longer mandated the  use of PFAS foam  at airports                                                                    
across  Alaska.   She  relayed  that  DEC's   role  in  PFAS                                                                    
contamination was  usually limited to testing  the foam, but                                                                    
much of the  testing was also carried out by  DOT. She added                                                                    
that  some   of  the  legacy  contamination   sites  in  the                                                                    
Fairbanks  area   were  military-related  and   the  federal                                                                    
government  was the  responsible party.  Most of  the budget                                                                    
for  PFAS contamination  cleanup in  Alaska appeared  in the                                                                    
DOT budget, not the DEC budget.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  commented that he was  surprised DEC did                                                                    
not have  a larger role in  advising DOT. He stated  that he                                                                    
would take the topic offline.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  requested that the Ms.  Carpenter work with                                                                    
subject matter  experts to provide  a short  narrative about                                                                    
PFAS that could be distributed to the committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  continued on slide  12 and detailed  the request                                                                    
for DW. She stated that  the funding was again largely flat.                                                                    
There was  a technical adjustment that  involved cleaning up                                                                    
unused  fee funds  and moving  the funds  into general  fund                                                                    
program  receipts. The  cleanup was  similar to  the cleanup                                                                    
previously done  in the DAQ RDU.  The department anticipated                                                                    
that DW would be able to utilize the funds.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:59:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  Ms.   Kohler  what  the  current                                                                    
balance in the response fund was.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  responded that the projected  ending unobligated                                                                    
balance   for  the   prevention   account  in   FY  24   was                                                                    
$25,420,000.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Josephson  asked   for  clarification   that  the                                                                    
response  account was  the larger  of the  two funds  [spill                                                                    
prevention and response funds].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler  confirmed that  the  response  account was  the                                                                    
larger of the two.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson asked  for the  balance in  the response                                                                    
account.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler responded  that she  did not  have the  specific                                                                    
number  but   would  be   happy  to   follow  up   with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski asked  how  many positions  were                                                                    
budgeted by DEC.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Kohler  responded   that  there   were  556   budgeted                                                                    
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  asked how many of  the positions                                                                    
were currently filled.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  responded that  as of January  15, 2025,  518 of                                                                    
the positions were filled.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  asked  how   many  of  the  518                                                                    
employees teleworked or worked from home.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler responded  that 64  percent of  the department's                                                                    
positions were  currently teleworking under  formal telework                                                                    
agreements.  She  explained  that the  agreements  generally                                                                    
required employees to be in  the office between two and four                                                                    
days per week.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Tomaszewski    thought   that   teleworking                                                                    
required  performance   oversight  and  asked   whether  the                                                                    
department used  key performance  indicators to  ensure that                                                                    
work was being completed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler  responded that  the  department  used a  robust                                                                    
performance  tracking and  planning  process. She  explained                                                                    
that  every  January,  the department  reviewed  its  goals,                                                                    
broke  the  goals  down  by  division,  program,  team,  and                                                                    
individual, and  then tracked and  assigned goals  and tasks                                                                    
accordingly.  She added  that the  process helped  employees                                                                    
understand how  their work  contributed to  the department's                                                                    
overall mission.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked  who was  responsible  for  the                                                                    
enforcement of the department's administrative regulations.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Carpenter   responded  that  programmatic   staff  were                                                                    
responsible for  enforcement. She added that  the department                                                                    
also  had  two  environmental  crimes  investigators  housed                                                                    
within the Office of the Commissioner.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Bynum   thought   there  appeared   to   be                                                                    
uncertainty  across  the  state  regarding  changes  at  the                                                                    
federal level.  He asked whether the  department anticipated                                                                    
any regulatory  changes or disruptions at  the federal level                                                                    
that could impact its ability to operate.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler  responded  that  the  department  was  actively                                                                    
monitoring  developments and  guidance. She  added that  the                                                                    
department was currently funded  and had no current concerns                                                                    
about disruptions.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: VILLAGE SAFE WATER AND SEWER                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:05:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENE  MCCABE, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF  WATER, DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, introduced himself.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CARRIE   BOHAN,   PROGRAM   MANAGER,  DIVISION   OF   WATER,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF   ENVIRONMENTAL   CONSERVATION,   introduced                                                                    
herself.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCabe  introduced the PowerPoint  presentation "Village                                                                    
Safe Water  Program Overview" dated February  14, 2025 (copy                                                                    
on file).  He advanced to  slide 2 and reviewed  the mission                                                                    
of  Village Safe  Water (VSW),  which was  to support  rural                                                                    
communities   in  their   efforts  to   develop  sustainable                                                                    
sanitation  facilities.  He  clarified  that  sustainability                                                                    
referred  to both  economic and  operational sustainability.                                                                    
The VSW  program funded  planning, design,  and construction                                                                    
of  water, wastewater,  and  solid  waste facilities  across                                                                    
Alaska.  The program  also provided  project management  and                                                                    
oversight for grant-funded projects statewide.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McCabe   continued  to  slide   3  and   addressed  the                                                                    
challenges of rural sanitation in  Alaska. He noted that the                                                                    
state's   remoteness,   climate,   and   ground   conditions                                                                    
significantly  increased construction  costs, which  in turn                                                                    
elevated   operational  expenses.   He  noted   that  Alaska                                                                    
presented an  extremely difficult environment  for operating                                                                    
sanitation systems  which placed significant stress  on both                                                                    
the   systems   and    the   individuals   responsible   for                                                                    
maintenance. He expressed  appreciation for system operators                                                                    
across the state and acknowledged  the hard work required to                                                                    
keep systems running.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCabe stated that when  funding was established, it was                                                                    
intended to address concerns at  a single point in time, but                                                                    
the  needs continued  to  evolve and  prices  changed. As  a                                                                    
result,  VSW was  always chasing  inflation, always  chasing                                                                    
cost increases,  and always chasing the  increasing need. He                                                                    
emphasized  that VSW  was still  making  great progress.  He                                                                    
noted  that local  capacity for  operations and  maintenance                                                                    
was  sometimes lacking  for  a variety  of  reasons and  the                                                                    
issue went beyond the ability  to train and retain operators                                                                    
in  a given  area. He  recognized that  the challenges  were                                                                    
compounded  by the  state's unique  climate and  operational                                                                    
environment. He explained that the  situation took a toll on                                                                    
everyone  involved in  maintaining,  operating, and  funding                                                                    
the system. He  relayed that there were  strategies in place                                                                    
to address the challenges.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:09:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCabe  stated that VSW's collaborations  were more than                                                                    
just  partnerships,  but  were   teams.  He  explained  that                                                                    
entities  such   as  the  Rural  Utility   Business  Advisor                                                                    
(ARUBA),   the  Alaska   Native  Tribal   Health  Consortium                                                                    
(ANTHC), the Indian Health  Service (IHS), the Environmental                                                                    
Protection Agency (EPA), the  U.S. Department of Agriculture                                                                    
(USDA),   and  the   Denali  Commission   were  not   siloed                                                                    
organizations. Rather, the  partners communicated regularly,                                                                    
knew one another personally, and  functioned as a true team.                                                                    
He  stated that  the  aim was  to  combine multiple  funding                                                                    
sources to ensure no community  was left out, and that there                                                                    
were various avenues available to achieve the goal.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCabe explained that IIJA was  enacted at a time when a                                                                    
database existed of projects that  Alaska needed in order to                                                                    
meet  its sanitation  needs. More  projects  had since  been                                                                    
added and prices had increased  significantly, and there was                                                                    
a continually  growing gap. He  explained that  $3.5 billion                                                                    
was  originally  made  available  through  IIJA,  with  $2.1                                                                    
billion  representing  Alaska's sanitation  needs.  However,                                                                    
the $2.1 billion figure was  no longer accurate, even though                                                                    
it  remained the  available funding  amount. He  stated that                                                                    
when projects  were ready  to proceed,  VSW could  apply for                                                                    
funding, but the further time  moved from the date that list                                                                    
was created, the more the funding and the need diverged.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson  asked  whether  the  $2.1  billion  was                                                                    
intended  to  represent the  cost  of  completing water  and                                                                    
sewer sanitation for all 230 villages.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCabe deferred to Ms. Bohan.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Bohan  replied   that  IHS   managed  the   Sanitation                                                                    
Deficiency  System  (SDS)  database, which  was  a  national                                                                    
database.  She explained  that Engineers  at  VSW and  ANTHC                                                                    
worked  directly with  communities to  identify and  address                                                                    
sanitation  needs  and  were responsible  for  understanding                                                                    
community needs  and documenting the needs  in the database.                                                                    
She stated that  the $2.1 billion figure  originated in 2022                                                                    
and  reflected  all  documented needs.  She  explained  that                                                                    
projects  for comprehensive  pipe systems  for all  unserved                                                                    
and underserved  communities at that  time were  included in                                                                    
the database.  The projects  included all  communities using                                                                    
honey buckets  or flush  tank haul  systems. The  funding in                                                                    
the  database  would  have provided  full  pipe  service  to                                                                    
communities. She  added that many  of the  remaining dollars                                                                    
reflected improvements to existing systems.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:12:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Bohan continued  on slide  4 and  explained that  there                                                                    
were two  main sanitation funding mechanisms.  The first was                                                                    
administered through VSW  and was shown on the  left side of                                                                    
the slide in  the yellow box. She stated  that VSW partnered                                                                    
with  USDA Rural  Development and  the  EPA, which  provided                                                                    
annual grants that  required a 25 percent  state match, then                                                                    
VSW  administered  funds  through  the  Capital  Improvement                                                                    
Project (CIP) funding cycle.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Bohan stated  that the  second mechanism  shown on  the                                                                    
right  side of  the slide  was  the IHS  and Tribal  funding                                                                    
process,  which  the  department  referred  to  as  the  SDS                                                                    
funding cycle because  it used SDS as its data  hub. The IHS                                                                    
dollars  included housing  funds,  regular  funds, and  IIJA                                                                    
dollars,  as well  as tribal  and  Indian "set-asides."  She                                                                    
added that she would address  the state revolving funds near                                                                    
the end  of the presentation.  She explained that  a portion                                                                    
of  the  federal dollars  was  carved  out and  administered                                                                    
directly by the  EPA through the use of  SDS. She emphasized                                                                    
that substantial  funding as a result  of the infrastructure                                                                    
bill was  currently being distributed through  the SDS cycle                                                                    
depicted on the right side of  the slide. She noted that she                                                                    
sat  on the  review committee  as a  partner and  that ANTHC                                                                    
also participated  in the VSW  review committee for  the CIP                                                                    
cycle.  She reiterated  that both  teams  worked closely  on                                                                    
both funding systems.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Bohan  explained that  VSW  staff  provided support  to                                                                    
approximately  one-third  of  rural  communities  and  ANTHC                                                                    
supported   about  two-thirds.   She  stated   that  funding                                                                    
followed  the  community's  lead  agency  assignment,  which                                                                    
meant  that   if  VSW  supported  a   community,  the  funds                                                                    
allocated to that community would  be routed VSW, regardless                                                                    
of  funding  source.  The  same  was  true  for  communities                                                                    
supported by ANTHC.  She relayed that the  process created a                                                                    
web of funds  going back and forth. She noted  that a common                                                                    
misconception was that making  ANTHC the lead agency offered                                                                    
unique  funding  opportunities,  but  all  communities  were                                                                    
eligible  for  the  same   opportunities.  The  lead  agency                                                                    
structure  was simply  a means  of sharing  responsibilities                                                                    
across communities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:16:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan advanced to slide 5  which included a graph of how                                                                    
the VSW funding had increased  over time. She noted that the                                                                    
color-coded chart illustrated  the different funding sources                                                                    
and  highlighted the  substantial  growth  between 2015  and                                                                    
2025.  The   dark  blue  section  represented   IHS  dollars                                                                    
received as a result of the  IIJA bill and the funds totaled                                                                    
approximately $450 million over the past two years.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McCabe  continued on  slide  6  and explained  what  an                                                                    
average  project looked  like. He  noted that  project costs                                                                    
varied widely  depending on the  nature of  the construction                                                                    
and  the community.  A typical  village piped  water project                                                                    
could range from $500,000 to  $4 million per home, depending                                                                    
on  the size  of the  village and  the project.  He reported                                                                    
that  the  average  cost   for  first-time  home  connection                                                                    
service was  approximately $1.35 million per  home. Projects                                                                    
typically  lasted  five  years, including  both  the  design                                                                    
cycle  and construction  cycle.  He emphasized  that it  was                                                                    
important   to   complete    engineering   work   prior   to                                                                    
construction. Projects  had the potential  to last up  to 10                                                                    
years, depending on the nature  of the available funding. If                                                                    
funding  became a  problem, there  could  occasionally be  a                                                                    
one-year gap during a project.  He noted that such gaps were                                                                    
unusual but could cause delays in construction.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McCabe continued  to  slide  7 and  referred  to a  map                                                                    
showing the underserved and  unserved communities in Alaska.                                                                    
He stated that  the communities marked in  bold had projects                                                                    
on  the books  either  to initiate  services  or to  upgrade                                                                    
services. He added that more  projects were expected to come                                                                    
online  shortly.  He turned  the  presentation  back to  Ms.                                                                    
Bohan.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:18:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan  continued on slide  8 and explained that  the VSW                                                                    
funding cycle  was an annual funding  opportunity. She noted                                                                    
that  community eligibility  was  defined  in AS  46.07.080.                                                                    
Eligible  communities included  second-class cities,  first-                                                                    
class  cities,  municipalities,  and  tribal  and  nonprofit                                                                    
entities with  a population of  fewer than  1,000 residents,                                                                    
as well as Metlakatla.  She stated that eligibility included                                                                    
most small rural  communities, in addition to  the cities of                                                                    
Bethel  and   Kotzebue,  which  qualified   as  second-class                                                                    
cities.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan relayed  that projects were planned  to ensure the                                                                    
most appropriate  alternative was  being pursued to  solve a                                                                    
particular problem.  There was a review  committee to ensure                                                                    
goals  were being  met  that  included representatives  from                                                                    
DEC's permitting  division along with funding  agencies. She                                                                    
stated that  the committee  discussed potential  problems at                                                                    
the planning  and conceptual stage before  projects moved to                                                                    
the  design  stage.  The   effort  had  accelerated  project                                                                    
timelines and  helped to proactively address  issues. Once a                                                                    
project had  an approved  planning document,  the organizers                                                                    
could apply  for design and construction  funding. She noted                                                                    
that  design  and  construction  were  handled  as  separate                                                                    
funding applications.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan stated  that DEC was working with  its partners to                                                                    
help communities  seeking VSW  funding for  first-time piped                                                                    
service  projects  to   develop  sustainability  plans.  She                                                                    
explained that the  purpose of the plans was  to ensure that                                                                    
communities understood  the financial burden of  the project                                                                    
and  were  prepared for  the  user  fees and  operation  and                                                                    
maintenance   requirements.   She    emphasized   that   the                                                                    
department  would  examine  the plans  before  it  dedicated                                                                    
funds to a project.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan  continued to slide 9  and relayed that it  was an                                                                    
annual application  process for new projects.  She explained                                                                    
that  the department  used a  scoring  criterion similar  to                                                                    
IHS's scoring  system and that  the projects  were evaluated                                                                    
based on  beneficial impact to public  health. She explained                                                                    
that  projects providing  any level  of service  to unserved                                                                    
communities  received  the  highest  possible  score,  while                                                                    
projects  offering   only  marginal  benefit   received  the                                                                    
lowest.  The current  level of  service in  a community  was                                                                    
also considered  as part of  the scoring process.  She noted                                                                    
that communities with no piped  systems received the highest                                                                    
score,  communities   with  flush  tank  and   haul  systems                                                                    
received fewer  points, and communities with  existing piped                                                                    
systems  received no  additional  points.  In addition,  the                                                                    
technical,  financial,   and  managerial  capacity   of  the                                                                    
community was  evaluated. She noted  that minor  points were                                                                    
awarded  for communities  that demonstrated  the ability  to                                                                    
join  the  project  with others  or  submitted  high-quality                                                                    
applications.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan  emphasized that the department  worked diligently                                                                    
to fund as  many projects as reasonably  possible each year.                                                                    
She explained that one strategy  was to break large projects                                                                    
into phases.  The designing  phase of  a project  often took                                                                    
several  years,  and  the  department  could  fund  a  small                                                                    
portion  of  many projects  to  move  them into  the  design                                                                    
phase. Once  the design was  completed, projects  would then                                                                    
be first  in line for  future phases of funding.  She stated                                                                    
that  the department  was committed  to  funding the  phased                                                                    
projects through to completion.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:22:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McCabe  continued on  slide  10  and provided  a  quick                                                                    
overview of  some sample  projects. There  was a  new source                                                                    
water   distribution  system   in   Unalakleet,  new   water                                                                    
treatment plants and washeterias  in Wales and Nunapichuk, a                                                                    
lift station replacement  in Saint Paul, a  new intake water                                                                    
and  transmission  line  in  Shaktoolik,  and  a  new  water                                                                    
storage tank in Saint George.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McCabe continued  to  slide 11  and  explained that  in                                                                    
2024, the  best management practices score  had been removed                                                                    
from  the   funding  eligibility  criteria  to   allow  more                                                                    
communities  to  become  eligible for  funding.  During  the                                                                    
design  phase,  the  previously mentioned  review  committee                                                                    
convened a  multidisciplinary team to review  and comment on                                                                    
designs  at  the early  conceptual  stage.  The process  had                                                                    
significantly  reduced   surprises  during   permitting  and                                                                    
construction and had led to  notable improvements in project                                                                    
execution. He  added that efforts  had been made  to utilize                                                                    
modular construction, which shortened  the time required on-                                                                    
site by  allowing components  to be  built offsite  and then                                                                    
transported and installed. He  explained that the department                                                                    
had seen some successes with modular construction.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCabe  reported that the  department had also  sought a                                                                    
better balance between  contractual construction support and                                                                    
the use  of local labor.  He understood that  the preference                                                                    
was for  hiring local laborers,  but the projects  needed to                                                                    
be  completed  urgently  and efficiently,  and  it  was  not                                                                    
always  possible to  hire local  workers. He  explained that                                                                    
automation could  reduce the burden on  local operators, but                                                                    
it would also increase  system complexity, which created new                                                                    
challenges  if  a  system  failed.  He  explained  that  the                                                                    
department continued to evaluate the tradeoffs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:24:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan  advanced to slide  12 which provided  an overview                                                                    
of  the capital  budget.  She highlighted  that $65  million                                                                    
represented the  CIP funding and approximately  $350 million                                                                    
was expected from IHS, which came primarily from IIJA.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McCabe continued  to slide  13 and  explained that  the                                                                    
department  operated  a  remote maintenance  worker  program                                                                    
under VSW. He  described the workers as  heroes who traveled                                                                    
across  the  state to  respond  to  emergencies and  deliver                                                                    
hands-on technical training. There  were currently 15 remote                                                                    
maintenance  workers,  13  of  which  were  regional  health                                                                    
corporation employees  funded by grants, and  three were DEC                                                                    
employees. He  relayed that a remote  maintenance worker had                                                                    
brought a doorknob to a  village where the previous operator                                                                    
had taken the key, and  the worker had successfully replaced                                                                    
the doorknob and  repaired the system. He  stressed that the                                                                    
employees  played an  important  role in  keeping water  and                                                                    
sanitation  systems  operational.   The  remote  maintenance                                                                    
workers  also   provided  training  and  phone   support  to                                                                    
operators  who  did  not  know  where to  turn  and  were  a                                                                    
critical resource for operators in rural communities.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McCabe continued  to slide  14  which detailed  several                                                                    
current challenges. He  stated that there was  a shortage of                                                                    
experienced  engineers, which  affected  the department  and                                                                    
its  partners.   He  explained  that   although  entry-level                                                                    
engineers  were available,  the complexity  of the  projects                                                                    
required   experienced  staff.   Supply  chain   delays  and                                                                    
inflation continued  to cause cost  overruns. He  noted that                                                                    
in  Alaska's remote  and  constrained environment,  sourcing                                                                    
compliant  equipment often  required significant  effort. He                                                                    
added  that  IHS  funding   was  typically  awarded  without                                                                    
considering  the  local  capacity to  operate  and  maintain                                                                    
systems, which  sometimes resulted in systems  that were too                                                                    
expensive for communities to operate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:28:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan  continued on slide  15. She noted that  while the                                                                    
VSW  program   received  considerable  attention,   DW  also                                                                    
managed  the   State  Revolving  Loan  Fund   (SRLF),  which                                                                    
provided  low-interest  loans, primarily  to  municipalities                                                                    
and some private  utilities. She explained that  SRLF was an                                                                    
ongoing opportunity  that accepted  applications year-round.                                                                    
She relayed  that DW reviewed  applications three  times per                                                                    
year and  allocated new  funding accordingly.  The available                                                                    
funding was currently higher than  the demand, and she hoped                                                                    
to use the  funding to assist more  municipalities and water                                                                    
and  wastewater   utilities.  She  noted  that   there  were                                                                    
additional funding opportunities  through IIJA that included                                                                    
funds  for full  loan  forgiveness  for projects  addressing                                                                    
emerging  contaminants, particularly  those addressing  PFAS                                                                    
contamination.  The division  had  actively  reached out  to                                                                    
communities  with   known  PFAS  issues  to   encourage  the                                                                    
communities  to  pursue  the funding.  She  added  that  the                                                                    
division  had  also been  working  with  the Drinking  Water                                                                    
Program to  assist communities  by conducting  monitoring to                                                                    
determine   if  PFAS   was   present,   which  could   allow                                                                    
communities to qualify for fully forgiven loans.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum relayed  that he  was concerned  about                                                                    
the  sustainability  of  the VSW  systems  that  were  being                                                                    
installed.  He  highlighted  that   the  investment  was  $2                                                                    
billion  and that  maintaining the  systems  over a  50-year                                                                    
period  would  cost  approximately   $27,000  per  home.  He                                                                    
assumed the  systems were  built to  meet EPA  standards but                                                                    
asked  what  the  long-term plan  was  for  maintaining  the                                                                    
systems.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCabe  responded that  sustainability remained  a major                                                                    
concern. He  stated that systems  were required  to generate                                                                    
sufficient   revenue   to  be   self-sustaining,   including                                                                    
covering  repair, maintenance,  and upgrades  over time.  He                                                                    
emphasized that  a system might  be high quality, but  if it                                                                    
was  unaffordable   for  utility  customers,   the  intended                                                                    
outcome  would not  have been  achieved. The  sustainability                                                                    
concern   was  carefully   evaluated  during   the  planning                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  commented  that it  was  unclear  how                                                                    
communities could afford to cover  the estimated $27,000 per                                                                    
year. He  understood the need  for rate-setting  for utility                                                                    
companies  to  cover costs,  but  he  thought the  projected                                                                    
expenses were unrealistic for communities.  He asked how the                                                                    
state planned to  address the issues over the next  10 to 15                                                                    
years.  He  thought  an   emergency  situation  would  arise                                                                    
without  appropriate  investment. He  did  not  see a  clear                                                                    
plan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Bohan responded  that  Representative Bynum's  concerns                                                                    
were  the reason  the department  had initiated  discussions                                                                    
with the  committee around sustainability planning  prior to                                                                    
allocating funding.  She explained  that the  department had                                                                    
been  working  to  bring together  all  partners,  including                                                                    
communities  and regional  entities, to  identify additional                                                                    
sources  of revenue  to support  system sustainability.  For                                                                    
example,  the community  of Wales  had  received funding  to                                                                    
install piped  service, but the projected  monthly user rate                                                                    
was  over $300.  She explained  that when  community members                                                                    
were  asked if  they were  willing to  pay the  $300 amount,                                                                    
they declined.  She stated that  the conversation  needed to                                                                    
involve  not   just  the  communities,  but   also  regional                                                                    
partners  who might  assist in  addressing long-term  costs.                                                                    
She  noted that  IHS  had the  statutory  authority to  fund                                                                    
operations  and  maintenance,  but  it  had  never  received                                                                    
appropriations  to  do so,  which  was  an active  topic  of                                                                    
discussion  at  the national  level.  The  VSW statute  also                                                                    
allowed  for  support  of operations  and  maintenance,  but                                                                    
similar  to  IHS,  the  authority had  not  been  funded  or                                                                    
implemented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:34:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  referred to slide 12.  She noted that                                                                    
the  top line  of  the capital  request  listed "dollars  in                                                                    
thousands,"  but   Ms.  Bohan   had  verbally   referred  to                                                                    
"millions."  She asked  whether the  general fund  match was                                                                    
$22 million or $22,000.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Bohan  responded  that  the   correct  figure  was  $22                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp stated that  he was struggling with the                                                                    
numbers  presented  on slide  5.  He  noted that  the  slide                                                                    
detailed  the  high  cost  of  delivering  water  and  sewer                                                                    
service and  the highest estimate  was $4 million  per home.                                                                    
He  thought  it  seemed  extremely  high  and  asked  for  a                                                                    
specific scenario in which that estimate applied.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan responded  that the figure referred  to a recently                                                                    
completed planning  effort for seven homes  in the community                                                                    
of Alatna.  The initial  cost estimate  for piped  water and                                                                    
sewer  service  for the  homes  had  been $28  million.  The                                                                    
estimate had since been revised to $25 million.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  remarked that the $4  million per home                                                                    
figure  was  striking  and  requested a  copy  of  the  cost                                                                    
analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan responded that she  could provide the summary in a                                                                    
follow up. She acknowledged that  the Alatna example was the                                                                    
most extreme case.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   asked   whether   there   was   any                                                                    
possibility of using IIJA funding  or other available grants                                                                    
to establish a  fund similar to the  Power Cost Equalization                                                                    
(PCE)  program  for  the  purpose  of  supporting  long-term                                                                    
operations  and  maintenance  costs.  He asked  if  such  an                                                                    
approach would  be within  the scope  of the  existing grant                                                                    
authorities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan  responded that to  her knowledge, the  IIJA funds                                                                    
could not  be used  in that manner.  She explained  that the                                                                    
funding had been allocated through  IHS, which had partnered                                                                    
with  ANTHC to  administer  the dollars.  She repeated  that                                                                    
conversations  continued at  the  national  level about  the                                                                    
possibility  of  future  IHS   funding  for  operations  and                                                                    
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard   asked  Ms.  Bohan  to   repeat  the                                                                    
explanation about the cost of the Alatna project.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan responded that IHs  dollars had been used by ANTHC                                                                    
to contract  with engineering firms. She  explained that the                                                                    
firms had  developed in-depth  engineering plans  to examine                                                                    
the feasibility  of providing piped water  and sewer service                                                                    
to unserved communities. The most  recent cost estimate from                                                                    
the  Alatna  planning document  was  $25.5  million and  the                                                                    
project would serve seven homes in the community.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard asked  for a list of the  names of the                                                                    
contractors  involved  in  the project,  whether  the  state                                                                    
received  comparable  bids,  and  to be  provided  with  all                                                                    
relevant details  of the contracting process.  She asked for                                                                    
the complete  record, including  who the  contractors hired,                                                                    
to whom  the request  for proposals had  been sent,  and the                                                                    
full  data  and  analysis  behind  the  cost  estimate.  She                                                                    
described the  $25 million figure as  "craziness" and stated                                                                    
that she wanted every detail.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster acknowledged  that  Alatna  was likely  the                                                                    
most extreme example, with only  seven homes. He stated that                                                                    
many of  the communities  he represented  were significantly                                                                    
larger and that  new projects in those  areas often involved                                                                    
expansion of existing piped systems.  There might already be                                                                    
a  functioning  water  and  sewer  system  in  some  of  the                                                                    
communities,  but   additional  housing   development  could                                                                    
require  expansion.  He  stated   that  economies  of  scale                                                                    
applied    more   effectively    in   larger    communities.                                                                    
Additionally,   the  cost   of   transportation  varied   by                                                                    
location, and  logistics in communities like  Shaktoolik and                                                                    
Unalakleet could  be easier than  in more remote  areas like                                                                    
Alatna. He  noted that  coastal access  and the  presence of                                                                    
local labor could help reduce  costs compared to areas where                                                                    
all  materials needed  to be  flown in  and outside  workers                                                                    
needed to be brought on site.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster emphasized  the importance of sustainability                                                                    
and explained  that it was  not feasible to  install systems                                                                    
that the  local population could  not afford to  operate. He                                                                    
encouraged a  shift in mindset when  discussing these issues                                                                    
and  explained   that  concerns  about   sustainability  had                                                                    
historically been a barrier to  delivering basic services to                                                                    
some communities.  The primary goal should  be ensuring that                                                                    
every  Alaskan had  access to  clean  water and  sanitation,                                                                    
although  sustainability  should  be considered.  He  stated                                                                    
that the  risk of  illness made the  issue urgent.  Over the                                                                    
years, VSW  had explored  innovative system designs  to meet                                                                    
the   needs   of   communities  where   conventional   piped                                                                    
infrastructure was not practical.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  explained  that   VSW  had  hosted  design                                                                    
competitions  to encourage  engineers to  propose affordable                                                                    
and  effective alternatives.  He emphasized  that the  state                                                                    
needed   to  prioritize   implementing   the  systems   into                                                                    
communities, especially  in light of public  health concerns                                                                    
highlighted  during  the  COVID-19  pandemic.  He  described                                                                    
conditions  he  had  witnessed in  some  villages  where  no                                                                    
formal sanitation  system existed. Some residents  relied on                                                                    
large waste bins and residents  dumped the contents of five-                                                                    
gallon   waste  buckets   into  those   bins,  which   often                                                                    
overflowed. He  stated that in such  circumstances, children                                                                    
could be  seen running through  the waste, tracking  it into                                                                    
homes, and increasing the risk  of illness. He stressed that                                                                    
inadequate  access to  clean  water  contributed further  to                                                                    
health concerns. He  relayed that he had stayed  in homes in                                                                    
Deering where  conditions made  water access  difficult, and                                                                    
residents  had  to  retrieve five-gallon  buckets  of  water                                                                    
using four-wheelers due  to the cold. The  quantity of water                                                                    
retrieved  was insufficient  to  take a  shower  and it  was                                                                    
burdensome  to  collect  water  every  other  day  in  small                                                                    
increments.  He  noted that  people  often  reused the  same                                                                    
water  multiple  times  for  handwashing,  which  eventually                                                                    
became ineffective  and led to health  issues. He emphasized                                                                    
that the issue was a major concern for him.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski referenced  the $2.1 billion cost                                                                    
and understood  that with an  average cost of  $1.35 million                                                                    
per home,  the allocation  would cover  a little  over 1,500                                                                    
homes. He  asked whether  there was a  total count  of homes                                                                    
currently identified as needing service.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:43:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan responded that she  did not have a current number,                                                                    
but that  the most consistent  estimate over many  years had                                                                    
been  approximately 3,500  homes. She  added that  she would                                                                    
follow up to confirm the figure.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  remarked that $1.35  million per                                                                    
home  was a  significant  cost but  he  understood that  the                                                                    
figure  included infrastructure  such  as  water and  sewage                                                                    
treatment plants.  He emphasized  that all  residents needed                                                                    
access to clean  drinking water. He asked  whether there had                                                                    
been  any consideration  of using  individual septic  tanks.                                                                    
When  he had  built his  first home,  he installed  a septic                                                                    
tank and drilled  a well and he thought that  there might be                                                                    
some communities where  such a system would  be suitable. He                                                                    
noted  that  in  areas   like  Fairbanks,  individual  homes                                                                    
typically relied on wells, holding  tanks, or septic systems                                                                    
rather than city  water and sewer service.  He asked whether                                                                    
there had  been discussion  of adopting other  approaches in                                                                    
rural Alaska to be more cost-effective.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Bohan responded that  individual systems were considered                                                                    
in the planning process.  The engineering planning documents                                                                    
included analysis  of multiple alternatives and  the funding                                                                    
agency   review   committee   initially   reviewed   reports                                                                    
identifying which  alternatives should be considered.  If an                                                                    
alternative   was  determined   to   be   not  fundable   or                                                                    
permittable, the  committee instructed planners to  focus on                                                                    
realistic   and  fundable   options.   She  explained   that                                                                    
engineers  developed  cost  estimates   for  three  or  four                                                                    
feasible alternatives,  followed by  a selection  process to                                                                    
identify the  most appropriate solution. The  community also                                                                    
participated  in selecting  the  preferred alternative.  She                                                                    
relayed  that everyone  involved would  prefer to  use wells                                                                    
and septic  systems whenever possible,  as the  systems were                                                                    
less expensive and easier to  maintain. She shared that Lime                                                                    
Village  and Rampart  used individual  systems and  Northway                                                                    
used a flush tank and haul  system, which were selected as a                                                                    
result   of  the   review  process.   She  noted   that  the                                                                    
communities  in bold  on slide  7 had  received funding  and                                                                    
that Alatna had not yet  been funded. She clarified that the                                                                    
$25.5  million figure  came  from  the engineering  planning                                                                    
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster remarked that  he had previously represented                                                                    
both Alatna and Allakaket. He  noted that Alatna was located                                                                    
on  the opposite  side of  the river  from Allakaket,  which                                                                    
created   additional   logistical    challenges,   such   as                                                                    
transporting  materials across  the river  by boat  if there                                                                    
were not enough  parts delivered with the  main shipment. He                                                                    
acknowledged   the   complexity   of   the   situation   and                                                                    
appreciated the presentation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jimmie thanked  Co-Chair Foster for providing                                                                    
a description of the conditions  faced in rural communities.                                                                    
She appreciated  the department's  efforts to  bring running                                                                    
water to rural Alaska and  stated that she wished there were                                                                    
a way  to fast-forward the  process so that  all communities                                                                    
could receive service as soon as possible.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HB  53  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  54  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  55  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  reviewed the agenda for  the next committee                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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2.14.25 HFIN VSW Overview.pdf HFIN 2/14/2025 1:30:00 PM
2.14.25 HFIN FY2026 DEC Department Overview.pdf HFIN 2/14/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
(H) FC DMVA FY26 Budget Overview Final.pdf HFIN 2/14/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
DEC Response to HFIN Village Safe Water First Service Cost Estimates 02.21.25.pdf HFIN 2/14/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
DEC Response to HFIN 01.15.24 Crum DOR OHSRRF 4th Qtr 2024.pdf HFIN 2/14/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
(H)_FIN Budget DepartmentOverview Questions Responses_2.21.25.docx.pdf HFIN 2/14/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53