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03/20/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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Heard & Held
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Heard & Held
Committee Substitute Rollout
+ Overview: Governor’s Budget Amendments by Lacey TELECONFERENCED
Sanders, Director, Office of Management and
Budget
+= HB 10 ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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+= HB 36 FOSTER CHILDREN PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 36 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     making  reappropriations;  making appropriations  under                                                                    
     art.  IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution  of  the State  of                                                                    
     Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 54                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations   and   other   appropriations;   making                                                                    
     reappropriations;  making appropriations  to capitalize                                                                    
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:51:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson asked if a Committee Substitute (CS)                                                                     
would be heard.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Josephson responded  that  it would  not be  heard                                                                    
today.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:51:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LACEY SANDERS,  DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT  AND BUDGET,                                                                    
introduced   the   PowerPoint    presentation   "Office   of                                                                    
Management  and  Budget  FY2026  Governor  Amended  Budget,"                                                                    
dated March  20, 2025 (copy on  file). She began on  slide 2                                                                    
and  the  updated  fiscal  summary  which  incorporated  the                                                                    
amendments  for   FY  25  and   FY  26.  The   summary  also                                                                    
incorporated the  updated spring  revenue forecast  from the                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR). She  began by speaking about FY                                                                    
25. The grand total for  supplementals was $460 million, and                                                                    
$91.4  was Unrestricted  General  Funds  (UGF). The  capital                                                                    
supplementals  totaled $500,000  of UGF  and $69.9  thousand                                                                    
for total  funds. There was  a grand total of  $91.4 million                                                                    
of  UGF  and  $529.8  million for  all  funds.  The  surplus                                                                    
deficit  was at  the bottom,  and with  the addition  of the                                                                    
supplementals  the  overall  deficit  was  just  under  $165                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders continued that for  FY 26, the overall total for                                                                    
operating amendments  was brought  to $314.7  million, $46.2                                                                    
million of which was UGF.  For capital amendments, the total                                                                    
was  $12  million,  with  $11.6 million  in  UGF.  With  the                                                                    
addition of the amendments  that had been submitted earlier,                                                                    
the overall deficit was brought to $1.65 billion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  continued to  slide  3  to address  the  newly                                                                    
submitted  amendments. On  March 5,  there was  a packet  of                                                                    
amendments that was submitted to  the legislature to address                                                                    
Executive  Order  (EO)  136, that  would  have  created  the                                                                    
Department   of  Agriculture.   The  amendment   packet  had                                                                    
reversed out the  total of $2.7 million for  the addition of                                                                    
13  positions and  provided a  transfer  of existing  vacant                                                                    
positions to support the EO.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders continued that in  the March 13 amendments there                                                                    
were  3  packets of  bargaining  unit  agreements or  salary                                                                    
adjustments. There  were three  agreements put  forward. The                                                                    
first  was under  the Department  of  Corrections (DOC)  and                                                                    
involved  the   Alaska  Correctional   Officers  Association                                                                    
(ACOA)  had  an  agreement  as   a  result  of  an  interest                                                                    
arbitration award  that provided an 11  percent increase for                                                                    
FY 26  that totaled $14.4  million. Under the  Department of                                                                    
Education  and  Early  Development  (DEED),  the  collective                                                                    
bargaining  unit  agreement   for  the  Teachers'  Education                                                                    
Association  -  Mount  Edgecumbe   (TEAME)  resulted  in  an                                                                    
increase of  a median of  5.46 percent  for FY 26.  The cost                                                                    
was  $24.2 thousand  in General  Funds (GF)  and a  total of                                                                    
$167.5 thousand.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders shared that under  the University of Alaska (UA)                                                                    
and  United  Academics  there was  a  collective  bargaining                                                                    
agreement that  was reached and  voted upon by the  UA Board                                                                    
of Regents,  which included a  2.75 percent increase  for FY                                                                    
26. She noted that the state  was working on the remaining 6                                                                    
collective bargaining unit  agreements that were outstanding                                                                    
as  well   as  one  for   UA.  The  amendments   for  salary                                                                    
adjustments  would  be brought  to  the  legislature as  the                                                                    
agreements were signed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin thought  it was  important to  follow                                                                    
the information with some analysis.  She commented that that                                                                    
the  correctional  officers  had  a salary  increase  of  11                                                                    
percent  and  the one  teacher  salary  adjustments for  Mt.                                                                    
Edgecumbe  was  5.4 percent,  while  the  university was  at                                                                    
about 2.7 percent.  She noted that throughout  the two years                                                                    
she  had  been  at  the  legislature,  increments  had  been                                                                    
approved again and  again, but the teachers  that served the                                                                    
children  of the  state had  not received  the same  sort of                                                                    
increases.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson responded that  she could not comment                                                                    
because  she was  seeing a  snapshot  in time.  She did  not                                                                    
think the correctional officers  should receive less to keep                                                                    
them on  par. She  asked about the  11 percent  increase and                                                                    
asked if there was a change in the number of personnel.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders responded  that the number only  affected the 11                                                                    
percent  that was  part of  the interest  arbitration. There                                                                    
had been an arbitration outcome  that resulted in a one-year                                                                    
increase  of 11  percent for  FY 26,  and the  parties would                                                                    
have to go back to the negotiating table for future years.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  asked   for  clarification  that  the                                                                    
outcome  was  not  tied  to any  appropriation  but  was  an                                                                    
agreement put in place regardless  of the appropriation that                                                                    
the legislative body made.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders responded  that an  agreement had  been reached                                                                    
for the three increases, which  were brought forward to take                                                                    
action  on in  the  back  of the  bill.  There  was also  an                                                                    
appropriation request to fund  the costs associated with the                                                                    
agreements.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Bynum  understood  that  the  agreement  was                                                                    
agreed to but still needed approval.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders answered in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:00:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan commented  that  the legislature  did                                                                    
not have  the authority  to approve  an arbitration  but had                                                                    
the authority to appropriate the  funding of the settlement.                                                                    
She clarified  that the settlement  was reached  between the                                                                    
employees and the administration,  who had the authorization                                                                    
to  approve and  negotiate. The  legislature's authorization                                                                    
was to fund it.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  relayed that  if the legislature  had to                                                                    
approve the  agreements, then over the  previous 60 meetings                                                                    
it had missed a lot of meetings.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders responded  that there  was a  reference at  the                                                                    
back of the  operating budget that gave  the legislature had                                                                    
the  ability  to  approve  the   agreements  that  had  been                                                                    
reached. She  did not  have the  bill in  front of  her. She                                                                    
noted that the reference  allowed that the legislature could                                                                    
make  a  decision to  not  include  the agreement,  and  the                                                                    
agreement would  be considered no longer  valid. She relayed                                                                    
that the legislature did have a  role, but it was at the end                                                                    
of the process.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked if the legislature  had ever asked                                                                    
for an adjustment  in the history of the  state. He stressed                                                                    
that the  legislature did not  attend the  contract meetings                                                                    
and did  not know what  was negotiated. He proposed  that if                                                                    
the  meeting  was voided  by  the  legislature, the  parties                                                                    
would go back  to the bargaining table  and presumably there                                                                    
would  still  be   inflationary  adjustments  and  workplace                                                                    
considerations. He asked if his understanding was correct.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders  said "yes." She responded  that the legislature                                                                    
was not  part of  the negotiating process,  but there  was a                                                                    
role  for  the  legislature  to play  in  the  appropriation                                                                    
process. The  language was in the  back of the bill  to vote                                                                    
it up or down.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:02:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders continued to slide  4 and the governor's amended                                                                    
capital  requests.  She  relayed   that  each  year  in  the                                                                    
governor's original budget, there  was a placeholder for the                                                                    
Statewide  Transportation  Improvement  Program  (STIP)  for                                                                    
both the federal funds as  well as the state match required.                                                                    
In  the   amendment  process,  the   administration  brought                                                                    
forward the  allocations listing out the  projects under the                                                                    
plan.  She referenced  a large  spreadsheet  (copy on  file)                                                                    
that  listed  each  of  the  projects.  She  noted  that  it                                                                    
included  advanced construction  projects and  the remaining                                                                    
other   funds,    which   were   receipts    for   community                                                                    
contributions  for the  projects  as well  as an  additional                                                                    
$215  million to  allocate all  of the  projects through  an                                                                    
amendment for the committee's consideration.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders   continued  to  slide  5   and  the  operating                                                                    
supplemental  requests  that  were brought  forward  in  the                                                                    
March 13  package. The first was  for DOC for two  items for                                                                    
$4.6  million.  The  first  was  for  community  residential                                                                    
centers.  There were  two contracts  recently finalized  for                                                                    
the Tundra Center in Bethel  and the Seaside Center in Nome,                                                                    
which resulted  in a  $2 million increase  for FY  25. There                                                                    
was  a  corresponding  amendment  in the  governor's  FY  26                                                                    
budget that accounted  for the increases in  the next fiscal                                                                    
year, which would  bring both years into  alignment with the                                                                    
agreed contracts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders  explained that the  second item had to  do with                                                                    
physical  health  care  within  DOC. She  relayed  that  the                                                                    
number of individuals  entering correctional facilities with                                                                    
complex  and  fragile  medical  conditions  was  increasing,                                                                    
requiring  a  higher  level of  care  and  more  specialized                                                                    
medical attention. There was a  need to have round-the-clock                                                                    
booking  available  as  well as  ensuring  that  there  were                                                                    
adequate healthcare  staff on site to  address the increased                                                                    
needs.  Under the  Department of  Health (DOH)  there was  a                                                                    
lapse extension, which showed as  a $0 appropriation for the                                                                    
department's Homeless  Information Management  System, which                                                                    
allowed for the multi-year  appropriation to be carried into                                                                    
the next fiscal year to continue the work on the project.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sanders    listed   that   lastly,    under   "special                                                                    
appropriations,"  there   was  an  appropriation   for  $2.7                                                                    
million to  the Division  of Retirement and  Benefits (DRB).                                                                    
The item was  identified as a fast  track supplemental given                                                                    
the  urgency and  was related  to the  security breach  that                                                                    
occurred  late the  previous year.  The  breach had  delayed                                                                    
retirement contributions  into individuals'  accounts, which                                                                    
had  impacted   investment  returns  for   participants.  To                                                                    
correct  the matter,  DRB was  depositing the  contributions                                                                    
into  the employees'  accounts and  crediting  them for  the                                                                    
lost interest associated with the  earnings. The project was                                                                    
currently  underway  and  was hoped  to  be  processed  very                                                                    
quickly before the close of the fiscal year.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked about  the security  breach and                                                                    
delayed  payment.   She  wondered  if  the   state  had  any                                                                    
insurance to  cover the  issue. She  thought the  state paid                                                                    
for security  measures to keep  data secure and  wondered if                                                                    
there was  any sort  of contract  or way  of paying  for the                                                                    
item through arbitration.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders was  not  aware of  any  insurance policy  that                                                                    
would cover the issue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin thought it  seemed that when the state                                                                    
purchased  technology for  help,  that there  would be  some                                                                    
sort of agreement that nothing  would happen. She referenced                                                                    
individual purchase of identity theft protection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  agreed  to  follow   up  with  the  Office  of                                                                    
Information  Technology (OIT)  to  hear  about options,  and                                                                    
with DRB  to see  if such  a policy  had been  considered or                                                                    
explored.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard asked  to  go back  to  slide 3.  She                                                                    
asked about  the $14  million for DOC  and noted  that there                                                                    
was 146  vacant positions.  She wondered about  the movement                                                                    
of vacant positions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders   responded  that  when  there   was  a  vacant                                                                    
position, DOC had to have a  person at the post to cover its                                                                    
facilities. She explained that it  could result in having to                                                                    
cover  the  cost  of  paying  overtime,  which  came  at  an                                                                    
increased  cost. She  thought it  was important  to remember                                                                    
that DOC had  to have a person filing the  role, which could                                                                    
cost more than having a person that was in the position.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard  relayed that she would  look for more                                                                    
information and revisit the matter at a later time.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  asked  to  go back  to  the  special                                                                    
appropriation  for  the  loss   of  earnings  on  retirement                                                                    
contributions.   She  referenced   a   press  release   that                                                                    
discussed  the effect  on the  Public Employees'  Retirement                                                                    
System  (PERS) and  the  Teachers'  Retirement System  (TRS)                                                                    
Alaska  Retirement Management  (ARM)  Board allocation.  She                                                                    
had heard  from constituents that  the effect was  mostly on                                                                    
those in the defined contribution  (DC) system, in a time of                                                                    
a booming  economy when the  contributions should  have been                                                                    
invested with  substantial earnings. She asked  if there was                                                                    
a sense of  how much of the special  appropriation was going                                                                    
to  individual's  defined   contributions  versus  into  the                                                                    
PERS/TRS allocations.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  responded  that she  could  share  a  detailed                                                                    
spreadsheet  and an  analysis on  how the  calculations were                                                                    
made. She relayed that the  information had been broken down                                                                    
between  PERS  and TRS  and  the  supplemental annuity  plan                                                                    
(SBS), but  not between defined  benefit (DB) and  DC plans.                                                                    
She relayed  that the lost interest  earnings were generated                                                                    
using  the  United  States   (U.S.)  Department  of  Labor's                                                                    
voluntary  fiduciary  correction   program  calculator.  The                                                                    
calculation  had been  received for  each date  to determine                                                                    
what should have  been deposited in each  account. She would                                                                    
follow up to provide the calculation information.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  applauded the administration  for its                                                                    
action on the  matter. She had heard  from constituents that                                                                    
they had concerns about missed  returns. She understood that                                                                    
there  had been  no litigation,  and the  administration was                                                                    
taking care of the error.  She considered that the situation                                                                    
was  a  costly error,  but  she  thought  it was  the  right                                                                    
decision.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:13:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard referenced  DOC  and understood  that                                                                    
the 146 positions  that were vacant had to be  there by law.                                                                    
She  asked   for  clarification  on  Ms.   Sander's  earlier                                                                    
comments related to overtime.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  responded  that the  term  used  was  staffing                                                                    
minimums. There were national  acceptable levels of staffing                                                                    
to cover  a certain number  of individuals in  each facility                                                                    
in the institutions. The staffing  levels ensured the safety                                                                    
of the  inmates and the  employees. When the  department had                                                                    
vacancies,  it  had to  bring  on  another officer  to  fill                                                                    
staffing  minimums to  ensure the  correct number  of people                                                                    
were in place 24 hours per day.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Allard   asked  if  the   individuals  being                                                                    
discussed were  already staff  and were  temporarily holding                                                                    
an empty spot.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  responded  that the  staff  in  question  were                                                                    
existing   employees  (correctional   officers)  that   were                                                                    
already doing  the job  and generally  had a  week on  and a                                                                    
week off  schedule. The individuals  would be  paid overtime                                                                    
when  vacancies  required  the employee  to  work  on  their                                                                    
normal  week  off. She  continued  that  the department  was                                                                    
trying  to fill  vacancies  so as  to not  have  to pay  the                                                                    
escalated overtime costs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard understood that  there were 146 vacant                                                                    
positions, but  they were not  being filled.  She understood                                                                    
that  there were  people  already in  a  position that  were                                                                    
brought back and required $18.6 million in overtime.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders  noted that  the $14 million  number was  the 11                                                                    
percent increase  to pay all employee  salaries. She relayed                                                                    
that  Representative  Allard was  correct  in  that DOC  was                                                                    
bringing officers  already hired  to fill vacancies  to meet                                                                    
the  minimum standard.  She emphasized  that the  department                                                                    
was actively  working to  recruit across  the state  to fill                                                                    
the vacancies.  She noted that  there was  constant turnover                                                                    
and there were constant new hires coming on.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard understood that  they were not filling                                                                    
vacancies,  but  rather  there  were  people  already  in  a                                                                    
position that were being paid overtime with the funds.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders responded in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:17:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Schrage  wanted  to follow  up  on  Representative                                                                    
Hannan's remarks  to commend  the administration  for making                                                                    
the employees  whole with  respect to  delayed contributions                                                                    
and  earnings.  He  referenced reporting  in  the  Anchorage                                                                    
Daily  News and  thought the  Alaska Municipal  League (AML)                                                                    
had  expressed concern  that while  the  employees had  been                                                                    
made whole, the state's  unfunded pension liability had been                                                                    
negatively impacted  by the delayed contributions.  He asked                                                                    
Ms. Sanders to  comment. He understood that  the state would                                                                    
have paid down unfunded the  liability earlier if the breach                                                                    
and subsequent delay had not happened.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  responded  that  she  was  not  aware  of  the                                                                    
comments  in the  article referenced.  She relayed  that she                                                                    
had  not  made  a  connection  between  the  delay  and  the                                                                    
unfunded pension  liability. She offered  to follow up  at a                                                                    
later time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Schrage wanted to note the concern.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sanders  continued   to  slide   6  and   the  capital                                                                    
supplemental request. There was  one amendment submitted for                                                                    
the Department  of Military and Veterans  Affairs (DMVA) for                                                                    
a   scope   change  for   an   older   capital  project   of                                                                    
approximately  $90,000  for  the Interior  Alaska  Veterans'                                                                    
Cemetery  in  the  Fairbanks  area.  The  appropriation  was                                                                    
originally to  address ditch mitigation,  and was  no longer                                                                    
required. The  amendment requested an adjusted  scope so the                                                                    
funds could be used on work to establish the cemetery.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  clarified   that  the  original                                                                    
funds were for  ditch mitigation for the former  site of the                                                                    
cemetery, and  the amendment proposed  to shift  the funding                                                                    
to the new cemetery site.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders responded in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson thanked Ms. Sanders.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB  53  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  54  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:20:39 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:21:05 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  took over chairing the  meeting. He relayed                                                                    
that he would try to get through the agenda quickly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
03.20.25 HFIN FY2026 Governor and FY2025 Supplemental Amendments.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
HB 54
HB 56
HB 85
03.20.25 OMB House Finance FY2026 Gov Amend Budget Presentation.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
HB 54
HB 56
HB 85
Attachment A - FY2026 Op Governor Amend 03.13.2025 Bill Spreadsheet.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
Attachment B - FY2026 Capital Governor Amend Bill Summary Spreadsheet.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 54
Attachment C - FY2025 Op Supplemental Bill Spreadsheet 03.13.2025.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 56
HB 85
Attachment D - FY2025 Capital Supplemental Amend Bill Summary Spreadsheet.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 56
HB 85
AK estimate 2025 edit.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
AK estimate details.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
03.20.25 HFIN OMB Gov Amend Budget Follow-up to 03.20.25 Hearing.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
AK March 20 2025 VFCP result.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 53
HB010 Additional Documents-Faculty Alliance Letter of Support.pdf HFIN 3/20/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 10