Legislature(2025 - 2026)DAVIS 106

04/22/2025 03:15 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 141 PUBLIC BUILDINGS: CHANGING FACILITIES TELECONFERENCED
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             HB  52-MINORS & PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:38:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  52, "An  Act relating  to the  rights of  minors                                                               
undergoing  evaluation  or  inpatient  treatment  at  psychiatric                                                               
hospitals;  relating to  the  use of  seclusion  or restraint  of                                                               
minors at  psychiatric hospitals; relating to  a report published                                                               
by  the Department  of  Health; relating  to  inspections by  the                                                               
Department  of  Health  of  certain  psychiatric  hospitals;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:39:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY  moved  to   adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)   for  HB  52,  Version   34-LS0399\I,  Radford,                                                               
4/12/25, as the working document.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:39:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MAXINE DIBERT, Alaska  State Legislature, as prime                                                               
sponsor,  provided  a  brief  recap  of HB  52  and  thanked  the                                                               
committee for the support she has seen  for the bill so far.  She                                                               
emphasized that the goal of HB  52 is to protect the state's most                                                               
vulnerable  youth  receiving  care from  psychiatric  facilities,                                                               
while also protecting the rights of their guardians.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:42:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATTIE HULL,  Staff, Representative  Maxine Dibert, on  behalf of                                                               
Representative  Dibert,  prime  sponsor,   read  the  summary  of                                                               
changes from  the original  bill version  to Version  I of  HB 52                                                               
[included  in   the  committee  file],  which   read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                              
     Page 2, line 1                                                                                                           
     Following  charge.  Inserts:  The  minor,  the  minor's                                                                    
     parent or legal guardian,  or another adult approved by                                                                    
     the  professional  person  in charge  may  request  the                                                                    
     confidential communication.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 4:                                                                                                          
     Following Communication. Deletes  "May place reasonable                                                                    
     limits on the number of calls permitted,"                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4                                                                                                              
     Page 3, line 13:                                                                                                         
     Following  subsection. Inserts:  Unless the  department                                                                    
     of health requests staff  presence during the interview                                                                    
     to ensure safety.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5                                                                                                              
     Page 3, line 19                                                                                                          
     Inserts  72 hours  as a  replacement for  "one business                                                                    
     day", which is deleted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6                                                                                                              
     Inserts:  AS  47.32.900  Is amended  by  adding  a  new                                                                  
     paragraph to read:                                                                                                         
     (22) "chemical  restraint" means  a psychopharmacologic                                                                    
     drug  that   is  used  on  a   patient  for  restraint,                                                                    
     discipline, or convenience and that  is not required to                                                                    
     treat a medical symptom.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Section 7                                                                                                              
     Page 3, Line 27:                                                                                                         
     Inserts  "2026"  as a  replacement  for  2025 which  is                                                                    
     deleted.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:44:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY,  referring  to  page  3,  lines  25-26,  in                                                               
Section 6 of  HB 52, Version I, pointed to  the language "that is                                                               
not  required  to  treat  a  medical  symptom".    He  said  that                                                               
increasing the dosage of a  medication that is already prescribed                                                               
to  a child  could be  used as  a restraint.   He  asked if  this                                                               
language would  create a  loophole to  inappropriately administer                                                               
an already prescribed drug.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:45:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HULL responded  that there  must be  "an assumption  of good                                                               
faith" for these  institutions and he was  advised by Legislative                                                               
Legal Services to finalize this language.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:46:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  asked  about  other  legislation  that                                                               
already  governs the  use of  psychotropic medications  in crisis                                                               
situations.   He  asked if  HB 52  and that  existing legislation                                                               
would conflict with each other.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:48:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HULL responded  that HB  52 would  require the  reporting of                                                               
chemical  restraint usage  but  would  not prohibit  institutions                                                               
from  providing  care.    He  said that  the  usage  of  chemical                                                               
restraints would  need to be reported  under HB 52, even  is used                                                               
in a crisis situation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:49:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FIELDS  asked   about  the   difference  between                                                               
requiring one  hour versus two  hours of communication  between a                                                               
patient and their legal guardian.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:50:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL responded that HB  52 would create a minimum requirement                                                               
for  communication  allowed  but   would  not  create  a  maximum                                                               
requirement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:51:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MINA  asked  how  that  hour  of  communication  would  be                                                               
monitored or  recorded.  She asked  if that would be  done by the                                                               
facility of by the Division of Health Services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL offered his understanding  that it would be monitored by                                                               
the hospital.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:52:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  NAVE,   Operations  Manager,  Division  of   Health  Care                                                               
Services,  Department  of  Health, responded  that  the  hospital                                                               
would track the one-hour time limit.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:52:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY  explained that  sometimes requiring  a young                                                               
child to  talk on  the phone  for even five  minutes can  be very                                                               
difficult.   He  asked  about  the possibility  of  a phone  call                                                               
including  that  child engaging  in  their  own activities  while                                                               
their guardian simply stays connected on the line.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:53:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RUFFRIDGE  asked   about   the   purpose  of   a                                                               
psychiatric hospital notifying the  Department of Health (DOH) of                                                               
any use  of chemical  restraint.   He said he  does not  know the                                                               
case  of another  healthcare entity  that is  required to  report                                                               
their administered  healthcare to DOH.   He asked what  DOH would                                                               
do with that reported information.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HULL  responded  that psychiatric  hospitals  have  shown  a                                                               
history of abuse  of children in their facilities.   He said that                                                               
HB  52,   at  its  core,   would  seek  more   transparency  from                                                               
psychiatric facilities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:56:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DIBERT added  that she would often  see the nurses                                                               
in  her own  schools  writing up  reports to  send  on to  higher                                                               
supervision,  creating  transparency.     She  also  stated  that                                                               
requiring  reports   would  create   more  timely   responses  to                                                               
inappropriate administration of chemical restraints.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  agreed  that the  timeliness  of  this                                                               
reporting,  especially  to  the patient's  family,  is  extremely                                                               
important.    He  asked  what  DOH  is  going  to  do  with  this                                                               
information.   He asked  how this  reporting to  DOH accomplishes                                                               
the intended goal of HB 52.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:59:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA clarified  that DOH would be required  to submit their                                                               
report  to the  legislature,  which would  also become  available                                                               
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:59:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY, in  response to  Representative Ruffridge's                                                               
question,  discussed his  experience reporting  patient treatment                                                               
to DOH,  adding that there  is typically some level  of follow-up                                                               
from DOH.   He said that he believes requiring  the report itself                                                               
may reduce  the use of chemical  restraints.  He agreed  that the                                                               
committee should consider who this report would be submitted to.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:02:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NAVE  responded that currently  when DOH receives  reports of                                                               
chemical restraint  usage, it  determines whether  that restraint                                                               
was justified  or unjustified.   He said  if the  determines that                                                               
the  restraint  was  unjustified,   it  conducts  an  unannounced                                                               
investigation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:03:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked  about   the  requirement  to  notify                                                               
guardians of  chemical restraint  use within 72  hours.   He said                                                               
that guardians may  want to know more immediately than  that.  He                                                               
asked about  unintended consequences of this  72-hour requirement                                                               
and about how DOH responds to these notifications.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. NAVE  responded that DOH  triages the reports it  receives to                                                               
determine the priority of conducting on-site investigations.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DIBERT  clarified that HB 52  originally asked for                                                               
a report  within 24  hours of chemical  restraint usage,  but one                                                               
psychiatric  hospital  asked  for  7  days, so  72  hours  was  a                                                               
compromise.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked if  DOH  agrees  that this  timeframe                                                               
would be a reasonable compromise.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. NAVE responded that 72 hours is a reasonable timeline.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:08:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MINA removed  her objection  to  the motion  to adopt  the                                                               
proposed CS  for HB 52, Version  34-LS0399\I, Radford, 4/12/25,as                                                               
the working document.  There  being no further objection, Version                                                               
I was before the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 52 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 52 Summary of changes Version N to Version I 04.14.25.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 Draft CS Version I 04.12.25.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 147 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 ND vs MD-DO Training.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 OR comparison of claims against NDs, MDs and DOs.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 Version A.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 Why Naturopaths Deserve a Broad Scope.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB147-DCCED-CBPL-04-11-25.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 AANP Comparison of Pharma Specific Training.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 Combined Bill File 04.14.25.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 How Does ND Medicine Lower Health Care Cost.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 Letters of Support 04.14.25.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147
HB 147 Naturopathic Medicine FAQs.pdf HHSS 4/22/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 147