Legislature(2025 - 2026)DAVIS 106

03/25/2025 03:15 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:21:53 PM Start
03:22:32 PM HJR9
03:40:14 PM HB96
04:20:44 PM HB52
05:03:36 PM State Medical Board
05:28:18 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
-State Medical Board: Samantha Smith
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HB 96 HOME CARE EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ADV BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 52 MINORS & PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HJR 9 EXTEND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TAX CREDITS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 9(HSS) Out of Committee
-- Invited Testimony --
              HB  52-MINORS & PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:20:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  52, "An  Act relating  to the  rights of  minors                                                               
undergoing  evaluation  or  inpatient  treatment  at  psychiatric                                                               
hospitals;  relating to  the  use of  seclusion  or restraint  of                                                               
minors at  psychiatric hospitals; relating to  a report published                                                               
by  the Department  of  Health; relating  to  inspections by  the                                                               
Department  of  Health  of  certain  psychiatric  hospitals;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:20:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:20 p.m. to 4:21 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:21:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS  moved  to  adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)   for  HB  52,  Version   34-LS0399\N,  Radford,                                                               
3/24/25, as the working document.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA object for the purpose of discussion.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:22:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATTIE HULL,  Staff, Representative  Maxine Dibert, on  behalf of                                                               
Representative Dibert, prime sponsor,  provided an explanation of                                                               
changes in the proposed CS for HB 52, Version N.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MINA  removed  her  objection.   There  being  no  further                                                               
objection, Version N was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:25:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked how many minors HB 52 addresses.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HULL  responded  that,  as  of  2022,  450  minors  were  in                                                               
psychiatric care both in state and out of state.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SCHWANKE  asked   how  many   children  are   in                                                               
psychiatric hospitals each year on average.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL  responded that on  an annual basis, about  300 children                                                               
enter psychiatric care every year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:26:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA  asked if the  communication requirement  for families                                                               
with youth,  under HB  52, Version N,  would be  duplicative with                                                               
the existing rights of psychiatric patients to communicate.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL responded that he is unsure of the answer currently.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MATTHEW THOMAS, Nurse Consultant  II, Health Facilities Licensing                                                               
& Certification,  Division of Healthcare Services,  Department of                                                               
Health, said that  he would need to compare HB  52, Version N, to                                                               
current legislation before answering this question.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MINA  asked  what  the  repercussions  would  be  for  any                                                               
facilities that did not comply with HB 52, Version N.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL responded that Version  N would not define repercussions                                                               
but would  establish rights for  children under  psychiatric care                                                               
and would enable the right to inspection and access.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. THOMAS said  that actions can be brought  against a facility,                                                               
ranging from a warning letter to termination.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA asked about the process of issuing a warning letter.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. THOMAS  responded that  anybody could  file a  complaint with                                                               
the  Department  of  Health  (DOH) and  then  that  complaint  is                                                               
triaged  to determine  severity, investigations,  and enforcement                                                               
actions.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:32:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked if  the appeals  process is  listed on                                                               
the Department of Health (DOH) website.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THOMAS responded that the  facilities have an appeals process                                                               
within  them  which patients  can  utilize  and  if that  is  not                                                               
successful, a patient can file a grievance with DOH.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  if the  grievance  filing process  is                                                               
accessible on the DOH website.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. THOMAS responded that there is  an accessible link on the DOH                                                               
website  for  individuals looking  to  file  a complaint  against                                                               
healthcare facilities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:35:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE asked  for the  purpose of  unannounced                                                               
inspections  of  psychiatric facilities.    He  asked if  HB  52,                                                               
Version  N,  would  also   require  inspections  of  out-of-state                                                               
facilities where Alaskan children are residing.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HULL  responded  that he  believes  out-of-state  facilities                                                               
would be inspected.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:37:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MAXINE DIBERT, Alaska  State Legislature, as prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented HB  52,  [Version N].    She paraphrased  the                                                               
sponsor statement [included in the  committee packet], which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 52 would  increase transparency and parental                                                                    
     oversight  of  Alaskan  children   who  are  placed  in                                                                    
     psychiatric  hospitals.  In  2022,  the  United  States                                                                    
     Department  of Justice  (DOJ) released  a report  after                                                                    
     conducting   an   extensive  investigation   into   the                                                                    
     institutionalization    of   Alaskan    children   with                                                                    
     behavioral health  challenges at  psychiatric hospitals                                                                    
     and  psychiatric residential  treatment facilities.  In                                                                    
     2020, the State institutionalized  over 800 children at                                                                    
     such  facilities,  more than  one  third  of whom  were                                                                    
     Alaska Native.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The State often places  children hundreds of miles from                                                                    
     their families and communities. As a result, many                                                                          
     parents,   unable   to    regularly   visit   treatment                                                                    
     facilities,   worry   that   their  children   may   be                                                                    
     vulnerable  to  abuse  while away  from  home.  Indeed,                                                                    
     local,  and  national  reporting  has  raised  concerns                                                                    
     about the extensive use of  seclusion and restraints on                                                                    
     children inside  Alaska's facilities,  including forced                                                                    
     injection  of sedatives.  While  the medical  community                                                                    
     agrees that  treatment providers should only  use these                                                                    
     tactics as a  last resort, in 2004,  the Disability Law                                                                    
     Center of  Alaska uncovered  an unreasonably  high rate                                                                    
     of  seclusion   and  restraint:  261  incidents   in  a                                                                    
     threemonth period.                                                                                                         
     The  institutionalization of  children with  behavioral                                                                    
     health  challenges  can  last weeks,  months,  or  even                                                                    
     years. Such long-term placement  is devastating for all                                                                    
     families and is especially  traumatic for Alaska Native                                                                    
     families who experienced the  harm of family separation                                                                    
     when the  government forcibly removed their  loved ones                                                                    
     and sent them to boarding schools.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 52  brings three reforms to  reduce the risk                                                                    
     of  abuse, strengthen  family connections,  and improve                                                                    
     the  transparency  of Alaska's  psychiatric  hospitals.                                                                    
     First,  the bill  ensures  that  children can  maintain                                                                    
     communication  with their  parents  or legal  guardians                                                                    
     while  institutionalized.  Second,  the  bill  requires                                                                    
     unannounced,  thorough  inspections   by  state  public                                                                    
     health  officials  twice   annually.  Third,  the  bill                                                                    
     ensures that  facilities are transparent about  the use                                                                    
     of  seclusion and  restraint.  The  bill also  requires                                                                    
     Alaska  Department of  Health  to write  and release  a                                                                    
     report  to   the  Legislature  with  data   from  these                                                                    
     psychiatric hospitals where minors are held.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     In  response  to  the  DOJ  report  in  2022,  Alaska's                                                                    
     behavioral  health   care  providers  are   working  to                                                                    
     increase   the   capacity   of   in-State,   in-patient                                                                    
     behavioral  healthcare  services   for  minors.  It  is                                                                    
     essential that  children, parents, and the  public know                                                                    
     that the  rights of  our youth  are protected  and that                                                                    
     the facilities treating young people are safe.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:41:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked again about the purpose of an                                                                    
unannounced inspection.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL responded that the goal is to fulfill Section 6 of the                                                                 
Department of Justice's findings and remedial plan.  He said                                                                    
these  inspections   would  provide   more  oversight   of  these                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked  for an explanation for  why 50 percent                                                               
of minor  patients at psychiatric hospitals  would be interviewed                                                               
under HB 52.   He asked how many children  are typically at these                                                               
facilities  in  Alaska,  and  how   many  interviews  that  would                                                               
require.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.   HULL  responded   that   50  percent   was   chosen  as   a                                                               
representative  sample size.   He  said  that the  size of  these                                                               
facilities varies greatly.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY  said he appreciates the  representative size                                                               
of a 50  percent sample but expressed concern over  the length of                                                               
time that would be needed to conduct so many interviews.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL  responded that  a staff  member from  the DOH  would be                                                               
assigned this task as their sole focus.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY  asked  if  other  states  have  implemented                                                               
similar reporting  requirements to that  under HB 52,  Version N,                                                               
and  if  those requirements  actually  changed  the behaviors  of                                                               
staff at these facilities.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HULL responded  that HB 52, Version N, would  bring the state                                                               
in  compliance with  the Americans  with Disabilities  Act (ADA).                                                               
He  emphasized that  seclusion and  restraint have  been overused                                                               
beyond any treatment plans at psychiatric facilities in Alaska.                                                                 
He  said  the  amount  of  their uses  show  that  seclusion  and                                                               
restraint have been used as punishment within these facilities.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:48:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA announced invited testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BENJAMIN  MALLOTT,  President,   Alaska  Federation  of  Natives,                                                               
testified in  support of HB 52,  Version N.  He  said that access                                                               
to mental  health services is very  limited in rural Alaska.   He                                                               
said that about  one third of minors in  psychiatric hospitals in                                                               
Alaska are Alaska  Native and emphasized the  support that Alaska                                                               
Federation of Natives has for HB 52, Version N.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:51:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATEO  JAIME, Community  Relations Liaison,  Facing Foster  Care,                                                               
described his  personal experience  with a  psychiatric facility.                                                               
He  emphasized the  length  of  his stay  at  this facility,  the                                                               
traumas  he experienced  and  witnessed there,  and  the lack  of                                                               
communication he was allowed to have.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:55:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked Mr. Jaime  if a specific  guardian was                                                               
assigned  to  him  to  represent   him  within  that  psychiatric                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. JAIME  responded that he  had a  case worker, but  they never                                                               
showed up for him.  He  also said that he faced difficulties with                                                               
the guardian assigned to him by  the facility.  He also explained                                                               
that he had no way of contacting his case worker.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:58:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA opened public testimony on HB 54, Version N.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:58:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN  PEARCE, Director,  Citizens Commission  on Human  Rights,                                                               
said that there is a growing  focus on the overuse of psychiatric                                                               
drugs  on youth  in psychiatric  facilities.   He said  that many                                                               
children  in these  facilities are  not receiving  adequate care.                                                               
He emphasized the right youth  must have to make complaints about                                                               
a  facility  and  the  rights   to  communication,  privacy,  and                                                               
visitors.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:02:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  if the  Citizens Commission  on Human                                                               
Rights is a state agency or an independent organization.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARCE  responded  that the  Citizens  Commission  on  Human                                                               
Rights is a 501 (c)(3) non-profit organization.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked if there is  a formal way for people to                                                               
get in touch with the organization.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEARCE responded  that he can follow-up with an  email to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                     CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
^State Medical Board                                                                                                            
                       State Medical Board                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:03:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
the  confirmation hearing  for the  governor's  appointee to  the                                                               
State Medical Board.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:03:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAMANTHA SMITH,  PA, Appointee, State  Medical Board,  provided a                                                               
history  of   her  education  and   clinical  experience.     She                                                               
emphasized her  experience working with  under-served communities                                                               
and her  interest in the state  of Alaska.  She  said that Alaska                                                               
has subpar medicine and provided examples  of this.  She said she                                                               
would like to influence the medical community in a positive way.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:09:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 5:10 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:10:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SMITH,   in  response   to  questions   from  Representative                                                               
Ruffridge,  said that  she wants  to serve  on the  State Medical                                                               
Board because it  ensures the safety of patients in  Alaska.  She                                                               
emphasized that she  is a "patient advocate at heart."   She said                                                               
that the licenses  the board gives out must  be scrutinized more.                                                               
She said she is worried  about the number of complaints regarding                                                               
patient harm that are coming to the board from citizens.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:15:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SMITH, in  response to  questions from  Representative Gray,                                                               
said  that she  works  for  a medical  clinic  and explained  her                                                               
schedule  and the  regenerative  medicine on  which she  focuses.                                                               
She  emphasized that  she does  not  take medical  advice from  a                                                               
chiropractor.   She  added that  she meets  on a  quarterly basis                                                               
with Dr. Hudson,  from whom she receives her  medical advice, and                                                               
she  does monthly  reports with  the chiropractor  with whom  she                                                               
works.   She said that she  is not involved in  any organizations                                                               
as a PA.  She said she did not  feel the need to be a part of one                                                               
and she does not work with any other PAs directly.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:22:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA  opened public testimony  on the  confirmation hearing                                                               
on the governor's appointee to the State Medical Board.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:22:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH  HOOD,   PA,  representing  self,  emphasized   the  unique                                                               
challenges of practicing medicine in Alaska.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:24:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WENDY SMITH,  PA, representing self,  testified in  opposition to                                                               
the appointment  of Ms. Smith  to the  State Medical Board.   She                                                               
said  Ms.   Smith  is  unqualified   and  lacks   broad  clinical                                                               
experience in Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:26:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CANDACE HICKEL,  PA, representing  self, testified  in opposition                                                               
to the appointment of Ms. Smith  to the State Medical Board.  She                                                               
emphasized Ms.  Smith's lack of  longevity in the state  and lack                                                               
of understanding of PA professional practice in Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:27:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to  testify, closed public  testimony on  the confirmation                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:27:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 5:27 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:27:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MINA  invited Ms. Smith to  return for a future  hearing to                                                               
address committee questions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:28:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services   Standing  Committee  meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 5:28p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 52 Version A 01.22.25.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 Sponsor Statement 03.17.25.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 Sectional Analysis Version A 03.17.25.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 Supporting Document - DOJ Investigation of the State of Alaskas Behavioral Health System for Children 12.15.2022.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 FN DFCS DJJ.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 FN DFCS OCS.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 Support 03.24.25.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 Supporting Document - Alaska Disability Law Center Findings 10.06.2004.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 96 FN DOH SDS.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 96
HB 96 Background and Policy Overview.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 96
HB 96 Combined Bill Packet 03.24.25.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 96
HB 96 Cost Comparison.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 96
HB 96 Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 96
HB 96 Sectional Analysis .pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 96
HB 96 Version A.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 96
Samantha Smith Medical Board Resume_Redacted.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52 Draft CS Ver. N 03.24.25.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 Summary of Changes Version A to Version N 03.24.25.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52
HB 52 FN DOH HCS.pdf HHSS 3/25/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 52