Legislature(2023 - 2024)BUTROVICH 205

05/03/2024 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:31:21 PM Start
03:32:06 PM HB50
04:26:35 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= HB 50 CARBON STORAGE TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HB 50(RES) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                      HB 50-CARBON STORAGE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
3:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL announced  the  consideration of  CS FOR  HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO. 50(FIN)  "An Act  relating to  carbon storage  on state                                                               
land; relating  to the powers  and duties  of the Alaska  Oil and                                                               
Gas   Conservation  Commission;   relating   to  carbon   storage                                                               
exploration   licenses;  relating   to  carbon   storage  leases;                                                               
relating  to   carbon  storage  operator  permits;   relating  to                                                               
enhanced oil  or gas recovery;  relating to  long-term monitoring                                                               
and maintenance  of storage facilities; relating  to carbon oxide                                                               
sequestration  tax  credits;  relating   to  the  duties  of  the                                                               
Department  of  Natural  Resources; relating  to  carbon  dioxide                                                               
pipelines; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:32:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:32:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP moved to adopt the Senate committee substitute                                                                  
(SCS) for CSHB 50, work order 33-GH1567\H, as the working                                                                       
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:32:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:32:56 PM                                                                                                                    
JULIA O CONNOR, Staff, Senator Cathy Giessel, Alaska State                                                                      
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, presented the explanation of                                                                       
changes from Version D to H of HB 50:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                     Explanation of Changes                                                                                   
             SENATE RESOURCES CS for House Bill 50                                                                            
              Version 33-GH1567\D to 33- GH1567\H                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The Committee Substitute adopts the following changes:                                                                     
        • Updated Title                                                                                                         
        • Added Section 4:                                                                                                      
             • Requires Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation                                                                         
               Commission to  prepare a  report on  each oil                                                                    
               and  gas  waste case  at  the  start of  each                                                                    
               regular session.                                                                                                 
        • Amended Section 6:                                                                                                    
             • Declares injection charges generated as                                                                          
               revenue  to   the  state  are   considered  a                                                                    
               royalty share for use  of the state's mineral                                                                    
               resources.                                                                                                       
        • Amended Section 17:                                                                                                   
             • Adds minimum commercial terms that were                                                                          
              removed from version A of the bill.                                                                               
             • Sets a minimum of $20 an acre of carbon                                                                          
               storage    exploration   license    fee   and                                                                    
               injection fee of at least $2.50 a ton.                                                                           
             • Adds an increase to the commercial terms                                                                         
               every five years based  on the Consumer Price                                                                    
               Index.                                                                                                           
             • Provides   a    mechanism   by    which   the                                                                    
               commissioner  can  lower  the  minimum  terms                                                                    
               upon  a   best  interest  finding   that  the                                                                    
               project would be otherwise uneconomic.                                                                           
             • Ensures the Department  of Natural Resources'                                                                    
               public notice  of interest in  an exploratory                                                                    
               license is  adequate to apprise  entities who                                                                    
               may   seek   alternatives    uses   for   the                                                                    
               underground lease area.                                                                                          
             • Verifies  DNR's   duty  and   authority  over                                                                    
               dismantlement  and  reclamation  requirements                                                                    
               upon closure of  a Carbon Capture Utilization                                                                    
               and Storage facility.                                                                                            
        • Amended Section 35:                                                                                                   
             • Requires DNR  to provide  state-owned seismic                                                                    
               data to players in the energy sector.                                                                            
        • Added Sections 41-47:                                                                                                 
             • Adds  to  Regulatory Commission  of  Alaska's                                                                    
               (RCA) jurisdiction to  include the regulation                                                                    
               of natural gas  storage and liquified natural                                                                    
               gas  storage,  including facilities  operated                                                                    
               by  a pipeline  carrier. RCA  would have  the                                                                    
               authority  to regulate  the  cost of  storage                                                                    
               service.                                                                                                         
             • RCA's   storage   regulation   would   exempt                                                                    
               pipeline carriers on the  North Slope and for                                                                    
               liquified   natural  gas   import  facilities                                                                    
               under  the jurisdiction  of the  Feral Energy                                                                    
               Regulatory Commission                                                                                            
             • Ensures  cost consideration  for storing  gas                                                                    
               or liquified natural  gas in determining just                                                                    
               and reasonable rates.                                                                                            
             • Addresses confidentiality  of records related                                                                    
               to  finances   of  gas   storage  facilities,                                                                    
               liquified natural gas  storage facilities, or                                                                    
               public   utilities   providing  natural   gas                                                                    
               storage services.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:33:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN joined the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL removed her objection; she found no further                                                                    
objection and SCS CSHB 50 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:36:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL noted that Amendment 7 (D.36) was before the                                                                   
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:36:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said that he was withdrawing Amendment 7.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:36:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL found no objection and Amendment 7 was                                                                         
withdrawn.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:37:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL reconvened the meeting.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:37:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:37:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved to adopt Amendment 8, work order 34-                                                                 
GH1567\D.44.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Note: Amendment 8 was drafted for HB 50, version D, and is                                                                     
therefore a conceptual amendment, as the committee is                                                                           
considering version H.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                              33-GH1567\D.44                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                      5/3/24                                                                    
                      A M E N D M E N T  8                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE         BY SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI                                                                      
          TO:  CSHB 50(FIN)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 5, following "credits;":                                                                                    
          Insert "relating to the oil and gas production                                                                      
     tax;"                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 32, following line 13:                                                                                                
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 38. AS 43.55.165(e) is amended to read:                                                                     
          (e)  For purposes of this section, lease                                                                              
     expenditures do not include                                                                                                
               (1)         depreciation,    depletion,    or                                                                    
     amortization;                                                                                                              
               (2)  oil or gas royalty payments, production                                                                     
      payments, lease profit shares, or other payments or                                                                       
       distributions of a share of oil or gas production,                                                                       
     profit,  or revenue,  except  that  a producer's  lease                                                                    
     expenditures applicable to oil  and gas produced from a                                                                    
     lease issued  under AS 38.05.180(f)(3)(B), (D),  or (E)                                                                    
     include  the share  of  net profit  paid  to the  state                                                                    
     under that lease;                                                                                                          
               (3)    taxes  based  on or  measured  by  net                                                                    
     income;                                                                                                                    
               (4)   interest or other financing  charges or                                                                    
     costs of raising equity or debt capital;                                                                                   
               (5)    acquisition  costs   for  a  lease  or                                                                    
     property or exploration license;                                                                                           
               (6)     costs  arising  from   fraud,  wilful                                                                    
     misconduct,  gross  negligence,  violation of  law,  or                                                                    
     failure  to comply  with an  obligation under  a lease,                                                                    
     permit,  or  license issued  by  the  state or  federal                                                                    
     government;                                                                                                                
               (7)  fines or penalties imposed by law;                                                                          
               (8)   costs  of  arbitration, litigation,  or                                                                    
     other  dispute resolution  activities that  involve the                                                                    
     state  or  concern  the  rights  or  obligations  among                                                                    
     owners of interests in,                                                                                                    
               or  rights to  production from,  one or  more                                                                    
     leases or properties or a unit;                                                                                            
               (9)     costs   incurred   in  organizing   a                                                                    
     partnership,  joint venture,  or other  business entity                                                                    
     or arrangement;                                                                                                            
               (10)   amounts paid  to indemnify  the state;                                                                    
     the  exclusion  provided  by this  paragraph  does  not                                                                    
     apply to the  costs of obtaining insurance  or a surety                                                                    
     bond from a third-party insurer or surety;                                                                                 
               (11)   surcharges  levied under  AS 43.55.201                                                                    
     or 43.55.300;                                                                                                              
               (12)    an expenditure  otherwise  deductible                                                                    
     under  (b) of  this  section  that is  a  result of  an                                                                    
     internal transfer, a transaction  with an affiliate, or                                                                    
     a transaction between related  parties, or is otherwise                                                                    
     not an  arm's length  transaction, unless  the producer                                                                    
     establishes to the satisfaction  of the department that                                                                    
     the amount of the expenditure  does not exceed the fair                                                                    
     market value of the expenditure;                                                                                           
               (13)  an expenditure  incurred to purchase an                                                                    
     interest  in  any   corporation,  partnership,  limited                                                                    
     liability  company,   business  trust,  or   any  other                                                                    
     business  entity, whether  or  not  the transaction  is                                                                    
     treated  as  an  asset  sale  for  federal  income  tax                                                                    
     purposes;                                                                                                                  
               (14)   a  tax  levied  under AS 43.55.011  or                                                                    
     43.55.014;                                                                                                                 
               (15)  costs incurred for dismantlement,                                                                          
     removal,  surrender,  or  abandonment  of  a  facility,                                                                    
     pipeline, well  pad, platform,  or other  structure, or                                                                    
     for  the restoration  of a  lease,  field, unit,  area,                                                                    
     tract  of  land,  body of  water,  or  right-of-way  in                                                                    
     conjunction with dismantlement,  removal, surrender, or                                                                    
     abandonment;  a   cost  is  not  excluded   under  this                                                                    
     paragraph if the  dismantlement, removal, surrender, or                                                                    
     abandonment  for   which  the   cost  is   incurred  is                                                                    
     undertaken  for the  purpose of  replacing, renovating,                                                                    
     or   improving  the   facility,  pipeline,   well  pad,                                                                    
     platform, or other structure;                                                                                              
               (16)  costs incurred for containment,                                                                            
     control,  cleanup, or  removal in  connection with  any                                                                    
     unpermitted  release of  oil or  a hazardous  substance                                                                    
     and any  liability for damages imposed  on the producer                                                                    
     or   explorer  for   that  unpermitted   release;  this                                                                    
     paragraph does not apply to  the cost of developing and                                                                    
     maintaining   an    oil   discharge    prevention   and                                                                    
     contingency plan under AS 46.04.030;                                                                                       
               (17)  costs incurred to satisfy a work                                                                           
     commitment   under   an   exploration   license   under                                                                    
     AS 38.05.132;                                                                                                              
               (18)  that portion of expenditures, that                                                                         
     would otherwise  be qualified capital  expenditures, as                                                                    
     defined  in AS 43.55.023,  incurred  during a  calendar                                                                    
     year  that   are  less  than   the  product   of  $0.30                                                                    
     multiplied by  the total  taxable production  from each                                                                    
     lease or  property, in  BTU equivalent  barrels, during                                                                    
     that calendar  year, except that,  when a portion  of a                                                                    
     calendar  year  is  subject   to  this  provision,  the                                                                    
     expenditures and volumes shall  be prorated within that                                                                    
     calendar year;                                                                                                             
               (19)       costs    incurred   for    repair,                                                                    
     replacement, or  deferred maintenance of a  facility, a                                                                    
     pipeline,  a  structure,  or equipment,  other  than  a                                                                    
     well, that results  in or is undertaken  in response to                                                                    
     a  failure,  problem,  or  event  that  results  in  an                                                                    
     unscheduled interruption  of, or reduction in  the rate                                                                    
     of,  oil  or  gas  production; or  costs  incurred  for                                                                    
     repair,  replacement,  or  deferred  maintenance  of  a                                                                    
     facility, a pipeline, a  structure, or equipment, other                                                                    
     than a well,  that is undertaken in response  to, or is                                                                    
     otherwise associated with, an  unpermitted release of a                                                                    
     hazardous  substance or  of gas;  however, costs  under                                                                    
     this  paragraph that  would otherwise  constitute lease                                                                    
     expenditures under (a)  and (b) of this  section may be                                                                    
     treated  as   lease  expenditures  if   the  department                                                                    
     determines  that the  repair or  replacement is  solely                                                                    
     necessitated  by an  act of  war,  by an  unanticipated                                                                    
     grave natural  disaster or other natural  phenomenon of                                                                    
     an    exceptional,    inevitable,   and    irresistible                                                                    
     character,  the effects  of which  could not  have been                                                                    
     prevented or  avoided by  the exercise  of due  care or                                                                    
     foresight,  or by  an intentional  or negligent  act or                                                                    
     omission of  a third party,  other than a party  or its                                                                    
     agents  in privity  of contract  with, or  employed by,                                                                    
     the producer  or an operator  acting for  the producer,                                                                    
     but only  if the  producer or operator,  as applicable,                                                                    
     exercised  due care  in operating  and maintaining  the                                                                    
     facility, pipeline,  structure, or equipment,  and took                                                                    
     reasonable precautions  against the act or  omission of                                                                    
     the  third party  and against  the consequences  of the                                                                    
     act or omission; in this paragraph,                                                                                        
               (A)       "costs    incurred   for    repair,                                                                    
     replacement, or  deferred maintenance of a  facility, a                                                                    
     pipeline, a structure, or  equipment" includes costs to                                                                    
     dismantle   and   remove    the   facility,   pipeline,                                                                    
     structure, or equipment that is being replaced;                                                                            
               (B)  "hazardous substance" has the meaning                                                                       
     given in AS 46.03.826;                                                                                                     
               (C)  "replacement" includes renovation or                                                                        
     improvement;                                                                                                               
               (20)  costs incurred to construct, acquire,                                                                      
     or  operate  a refinery  or  crude  oil topping  plant,                                                                    
     regardless of  whether the products of  the refinery or                                                                    
     topping  plant  are used  in  oil  or gas  exploration,                                                                    
     development,  or production  operations; however,  if a                                                                    
     producer  owns a  refinery or  crude oil  topping plant                                                                    
     that  is  located  on  or  near  the  premises  of  the                                                                    
     producer's  lease or  property  in the  state and  that                                                                    
     processes the  producer's oil produced from  that lease                                                                    
     or property  into a product  that the producer  uses in                                                                    
     the operation of the lease  or property in drilling for                                                                    
     or  producing   oil  or   gas,  the   producer's  lease                                                                    
     expenditures   include   the   amount   calculated   by                                                                    
     subtracting from  the fair market value  of the product                                                                    
     used   the  prevailing   value,  as   determined  under                                                                    
     AS 43.55.020(f), of the oil that is processed;                                                                             
               (21)  costs of lobbying, public relations,                                                                       
     public relations advertising, or policy advocacy;                                                                          
               (22)  costs incurred as part of a capital                                                                        
     expenditure  or   other  action  taken  for   a  carbon                                                                    
     management  purpose  under  AS 38.05.081  or  a  carbon                                                                    
     offset project under AS 38.95.400 - 38.95.499;                                                                         
               (23)  costs incurred to become eligible for,                                                                 
     or  that result  in  eligibility to  claim, the  carbon                                                                
     oxide sequestration credit allowed  as to federal taxes                                                                
     under 26  U.S.C. 45Q (Internal Revenue  Code), when the                                                                
     costs  are  expended  to  construct,  acquire,  modify,                                                                
     operate,  dismantle, or  remove a  facility for  carbon                                                                
     capture,   carbon  utilization,   or  carbon   storage,                                                                
     including  construction  and  modification  of  new  or                                                                
     existing  infrastructure,  as  well  as  fees  incurred                                                                
     under    AS 41.06.160,   surcharges    incurred   under                                                                
     AS 41.06.175,  or  costs   associated  with  obtaining,                                                                
     operating,  or maintaining  a  license  or lease  under                                                                
     AS 38.05.700 - 38.05.795."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 35, line 2:                                                                                                           
          Delete "Section 39"                                                                                                   
          Insert "Section 40"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:37:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:37:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said  that Amendment 8 applies  to the lease                                                               
expenditure portion  of the law.  He noted that Amendment  7 also                                                               
applied to  this section  and acknowledged  that there  were some                                                               
concerns about  that amendment. He  said that Amendment 8  is the                                                               
result of working with the  Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                               
and the  Department of  Revenue (DOR).  He directed  attention to                                                               
Amendment  8,  page  4,  lines 17-25  and  explained  that  lease                                                               
expenditures  would not  be deductible  for  those attempting  to                                                               
become eligible  for - or seeking  to use the -  45Q tax credits.                                                               
He stated  that carbon capture  projects are  extremely expensive                                                               
and would  not be  economically viable  under ordinary  terms. He                                                               
went  on  to  say  that  large federal  tax  credits  make  these                                                               
projects  more economic  for the  companies;  however, the  state                                                               
then pays  for a large  portion of the  cost of building,  due to                                                               
the state's current tax structure.  He clarified that Amendment 8                                                               
allows  companies to  either deduct  lease  expenditures or  take                                                               
advantage  of the  45Q tax  credits, and  thus prevents  "double-                                                               
dipping."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:39:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR said  that the primary challenge  with Amendment 8                                                               
(as  with   the  previous  amendment),  is   differentiating  the                                                               
legitimate  oil recovery  activity  that may  result from  carbon                                                               
insertion from  projects that are specifically  focused on carbon                                                               
sequestration.  He opined  that Amendment  8 does  a good  job of                                                               
separating  these. He  noted that  DOR previously  indicated that                                                               
carbon capture,  utilization, and  storage (CCUS)  projects would                                                               
not  qualify as  lease  expenditures. He  said  that Amendment  8                                                               
provides additional support for DOR's policy.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:40:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN asked to hear from DNR.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN BOYLE, Commissioner, Department  of Natural Resources (DNR),                                                               
said that  DNR is  still evaluating Amendment  8. He  stated that                                                               
DNR's main  concern with this  amendment - which delves  into the                                                               
realm of  lease expenditures -  is that  HB 50 deals  solely with                                                               
the regulation  of the permanent  storage of captured  carbon and                                                               
does not  address the question  of allowing companies  to include                                                               
carbon  capture  as a  lease  expenditure.  He acknowledged  that                                                               
there  are  concerns  related   to  companies  capturing  carbon,                                                               
claiming  45Q  tax  credits, utilizing  the  captured  carbon  in                                                               
enhanced oil  recovery and later deducting  carbon capture costs.                                                               
He  said that  there  is  a federal  tax  component for  captured                                                               
carbon that is  utilized for EOR and an  associated state credit.                                                               
He  explained that,  currently,  if a  company  is interested  in                                                               
capturing  carbon  and utilizing  that  carbon  for enhanced  oil                                                               
recovery (EOR), it  would qualify for both federal  and state tax                                                               
credits. He  said that the federal  tax credit has been  in place                                                               
since  2008 -  and  surmised that  this is  also  when the  state                                                               
credit  was put  in  place.  The amounts  for  both credits  were                                                               
increased in 2022  as part of the Inflation Reduction  Act, in an                                                               
effort to further incentivize companies to capture carbon.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:43:55 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER BOYLE acknowledged that  there is concern related to                                                               
companies capturing  carbon, utilizing  this carbon for  EOR, and                                                               
then  deducting the  costs associated  with capturing  the carbon                                                               
from  existing production  tax liabilities.  He pointed  out that                                                               
DOR previously testified that the  costs associated with captured                                                               
carbon   would  not   qualify  as   an  ordinary   and  necessary                                                               
expenditure  for  lease  deductions. He  reiterated  that,  while                                                               
companies would still be able to  apply for the tax credits, they                                                               
would  not  be  able  to  deduct CCUS  costs  under  the  current                                                               
regulatory  structure. He  stated that  Amendment 8  addresses an                                                               
issue that  DNR does not  believe currently exists. He  said that                                                               
DOR is  willing to work to  create a mechanism that  would ensure                                                               
that  this issue  would not  manifest negatively  in the  future;                                                               
however, he  expressed concern with  the language in  Amendment 8                                                               
that address  lease expenditures, which may  inadvertently impact                                                               
currently allowable lease expenditures.  He stated that DNR wants                                                               
to ensure  that the scope of  HB 50 does not  exceed the original                                                               
intent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:47:50 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  CROWTHER,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources (DNR),  noted that  DNR has not  been able  to complete                                                               
the  necessary review  of Amendment  8. He  said that  additional                                                               
time is  needed to work  with the  Department of Law  (DOL), DOR,                                                               
and the Senate  on the language of the amendment  and expressed a                                                               
willingness to do so.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:48:37 PM                                                                                                                    
BRANDON SPANOS, Acting Tax Director,  Tax Division, Department of                                                               
Revenue, Anchorage,  Alaska, echoed  the statements made  by DNR.                                                               
He added  that DOR would  need to  confer with the  Department of                                                               
Law.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:49:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked for confirmation of  his understanding that                                                               
using carbon  to increase  oil production  would be  considered a                                                               
"cost of production."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:49:48 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  BOYLE shared  his understanding  that if  a company                                                               
were to  source CO2 for  use in EOR,  this would be  an allowable                                                               
lease expenditure  under current  regulation. He deferred  to DOR                                                               
to provide a more detailed answer.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:50:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SPANOS answered that, under  current statute, an expense that                                                               
would  enhance   oil  production  that  is   also  "ordinary  and                                                               
necessary"   would  be   an  allowable   EOR  lease   expenditure                                                               
deduction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked if companies  would also receive federal 45Q                                                               
tax credit for using the CO2.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:51:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SPANOS  replied that this  is correct. He explained  that the                                                               
federal  income tax  is  separate  from the  Alaska  Oil and  Gas                                                               
Production tax. He said that  companies would receive a credit on                                                               
their  federal income  tax 45Q  calculation.  He reiterated  that                                                               
companies  would  also  be  able  to  take  these  as  EOR  lease                                                               
expenditure deductions on the Alaska  Oil and Gas Production Tax,                                                               
provided  they  are  "ordinary and  necessary"  and  enhance  oil                                                               
recovery.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked for clarification that  companies can                                                               
currently use carbon  for EOR on the North Slope  and get a lease                                                               
expenditure reduction.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:53:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SPANOS noted  that, as acting director, he is  not an oil and                                                               
gas production  tax expert.  He said  that, currently,  if carbon                                                               
was captured  and could economically  be used  for EOR -  and the                                                               
costs  were  considered  an   "ordinary  and  necessary  business                                                               
expense" (which is determined by  DOR during the audit process) -                                                               
then this would be an allowed EOR lease expenditure deduction.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:54:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  conveyed  that he  has  heard  conflicting                                                               
reports about whether  these deductions are allowed -  as well as                                                               
reports  that it  is  not  currently being  done.  He shared  his                                                               
belief  that a  company likely  could deduct  these expenses  and                                                               
that this is what the state  is seeking to disallow. He explained                                                               
that  carbon capture  projects are  very expensive  and are  only                                                               
made economical by the $60-$130  tax credits. He pointed out that                                                               
North Slope producers  have projects of this type  in other parts                                                               
of the  world. He  reiterated that  Amendment 8  simply clarifies                                                               
that companies cannot utilize both  the tax deduction and receive                                                               
the 45Q  tax credit. He  noted that  no other state  allows these                                                               
deductions. He said  that, while it may never happen,  it has the                                                               
potential to be extremely expensive  for the state. He emphasized                                                               
that  he  is  not  intending  to disallow  any  other  EOR  lease                                                               
expenditures, regardless  of the costs. Rather,  the intention is                                                               
to disallow companies from utilizing  both the lease expenditures                                                               
and the 45Q  tax credits simultaneously. He  reiterated that when                                                               
companies receive  both, it distorts  project economics in  a way                                                               
that  is  detrimental  to  the   state  budget.  He  expressed  a                                                               
willingness to  work with  DOR and DNR  going forward.  He shared                                                               
his belief that  it is important to include this  change in HB 50                                                               
as it moves on to the Senate Finance Committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:56:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL confirmed  that HB  50  will move  next to  the                                                               
Senate Finance  Committee. She pointed  out that Amendment  8 was                                                               
drafted  for HB  50, version  D,  and is  therefore a  conceptual                                                               
amendment, as the committee is considering version H.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:56:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked if the 45Q tax credit terminates in 2033.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:57:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SPANOS  replied   that  he  would  need  to   look  up  this                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:57:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP said  that Mr.  Spanos  could follow  up in  the                                                               
Senate  Finance Committee  with  this  information. He  commented                                                               
that no  company is currently claiming  the EOR credit -  and the                                                               
credit may  not be renewed when  it expires in 2033.  He asked if                                                               
Amendment 8 would inadvertently  stop any standalone point source                                                               
carbon capture at a generation facility  that was to be stored in                                                               
a Class 6 injection well.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:29 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER BOYLE  answered that, to his  knowledge, Amendment 8                                                               
would not impact those activities.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:58:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN asked  for clarification  that Amendment  8 would                                                               
allow companies  that capture carbon for  EOR - but do  not claim                                                               
the  45Q   tax  credit   -  to  deduct   those  costs   as  lease                                                               
expenditures.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SPANOS replied  that he would need to review  the language of                                                               
Amendment 8.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAUFMAN   expressed  concern  that  Amendment   8  could                                                               
potentially hamper oil  and gas production and  EOR. He indicated                                                               
a  need  to  distinguish  between carbon  injection  for  storage                                                               
versus  carbon  injection  for  improved  performance.  He  asked                                                               
whether  it  is  possible  to   characterize  the  difference  in                                                               
activities - or facilities - that  would be used to do one versus                                                               
the other.  He suggested that this  may give a stronger  sense of                                                               
separation that  would exist  between the  two. He  surmised that                                                               
some  may envision  a facility  that is  doing both  and wondered                                                               
what the measuring  and/or evaluation process would  consist of -                                                               
and  how  this  would  ensure that  companies  are  not  "double-                                                               
dipping."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:01:05 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER BOYLE replied that DNR  does not believe Amendment 8                                                               
would hamper  North Slope oil  production, insofar as  it applies                                                               
to companies  that capture carbon  and collect 45Q  credits being                                                               
prohibited  from also  claiming  this as  a  lease deduction.  He                                                               
offered  a  hypothetical  situation  involving  permanent  carbon                                                               
sequestration (which  is not an allowable  lease expenditure) and                                                               
explained how  an oil company  (that is  also a producer)  may be                                                               
incentivized to  take on this  project based  on how much  of the                                                               
45Q  tax credit  is available  for that  activity. He  noted that                                                               
this  would   be  independent  of  the   state's  existing  lease                                                               
expenditure regulations.  He said that a  similar situation would                                                               
occur for  an oil company  (that is also a  producer) considering                                                               
the direct air capture and  permanent sequestration of carbon and                                                               
seeking  the 45Q  tax credit  for that  activity. He  pointed out                                                               
that these  expenses are not  allowable lease  expenditures under                                                               
the  current production  tax law.  He added  that a  company that                                                               
captured carbon  and later  sold the  CO2 to  an oil  company for                                                               
EOR, the  company responsible for  capturing the carbon  would be                                                               
entitled to  the 45Q tax credit  - which he reiterated  is not an                                                               
allowable  lease   expenditure.  However,   a  company   that  is                                                               
capturing  carbon for  enhanced oil  recovery -  which is  deemed                                                               
"ordinary   and  necessary"   for   facilitating  the   increased                                                               
production  of  oil  -  the  company  purchasing  the  CO2  could                                                               
potentially deduct this as a lease expenditure.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:04:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  asked whether an  approved class  injection well                                                               
is  required  to  be  eligible  to  claim  45Q  tax  credits.  He                                                               
commented that EOR credits apply to class 2 wells.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:05:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER replied that pure  storage operations, which receive                                                               
a higher 45Q  credit amount, must have an approved  class 6 well.                                                               
He explained  that it  is possible  to inject CO2  via a  class 2                                                               
well - and these can be permitted  by the state. Any class 6 well                                                               
can be permitted by the  EPA alone, without primacy. He clarified                                                               
that,  while EOR-related  activity can  occur through  a class  2                                                               
well, not  all CO2 injection via  a class 2 well  is eligible for                                                               
45Q credits (as there are other requirements that must be met).                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:06:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked Mr. Crowther to repeat his last sentence.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:06:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CROWTHER restated  that  carbon can  be  injected through  a                                                               
class  2  well; however,  this  does  not  mean that  all  carbon                                                               
injected through that well is  eligible for 45Q credits, as there                                                               
are additional requirements to qualify.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:06:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP asked  for clarification  regarding whether  CO2                                                               
injected in a class 2 well would be eligible for 45Q credits.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:06:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER clarified that it  could be eligible, if it resulted                                                               
in  EOR that  involved disposition  in  the reservoir  and if  it                                                               
would otherwise be  emitted. He noted that CO2 that  is cycled on                                                               
the North Slope  would not otherwise be emitted  and is therefore                                                               
ineligible for 45Q credits.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:06:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP commented  that he  would seek  a more  detailed                                                               
answer regarding 45Q  tax credit eligibility in  this scenario as                                                               
HB 50 moves on to the Senate Finance Committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:07:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL removed  her objection;  she  found no  further                                                               
objection and Amendment 8 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:07:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:07:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved  to adopt Amendment 9,  work order 33-                                                               
GH1567\D.45, to HB 50.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Note: Amendment 9  is a conceptual amendment, as  it was drafted                                                               
to version D of HB 50 and is not complete.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                              33-GH1567\D.45                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                      5/3/24                                                                    
                      A M E N D M E N T  9                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE         BY SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI                                                                      
          TO:  CSHB 50(FIN)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 5, following "credits;":                                                                                    
          Insert "establishing an income tax on certain                                                                       
      entities producing or transporting oil or gas in the                                                                    
     state;"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 32, following line 9:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "*  Sec. 37.  AS 43.20 is  amended by  adding a  new                                                                
     section to read:                                                                                                           
          Sec. 43.20.019. Tax on income attributable to a                                                                     
     qualified entity; renewable  energy and electrical grid                                                                  
     projects  or  upgrades  fund.  (a)  If  an  entity  has                                                                  
     qualified  taxable  income  over $4,000,000  in  a  tax                                                                    
     year, the entity shall pay a  tax of 9.4 percent on the                                                                    
     qualified taxable income over $4,000,000.                                                                                  
          (b)  The tax under this section does not apply to                                                                     
     a corporation paying tax under AS 43.20.011.                                                                               
          (c)  The department shall aggregate the qualified                                                                     
     taxable income of two or  more entities for the purpose                                                                    
     of determining  the tax due  under this section  if the                                                                    
     department determines  that, without the  provisions of                                                                    
     this  section,  the   qualified  taxable  income  would                                                                    
     reasonably  be expected  to be  attributed to  a single                                                                    
     entity.                                                                                                                    
          (d)  The renewable energy and electrical grid                                                                         
     projects  or  upgrades  fund   is  established  in  the                                                                    
     general  fund. The  Department of  Administration shall                                                                    
     separately  account for  the tax  collected under  this                                                                    
     section and  deposit the tax into  the renewable energy                                                                    
     and electrical grid projects or upgrades fund.                                                                             
          (e)  In this section,                                                                                                 
               (1)  "entity" means a                                                                                            
               (A)  sole proprietorship;                                                                                        
               (B)  partnership; or                                                                                             
               (C)  entity that has elected to file federal                                                                     
     returns under  26 U.S.C. 1361 -  1379 (Internal Revenue                                                                    
     Code);                                                                                                                     
               (2)  "qualified taxable income" means income                                                                     
     from  the production  of oil  or  gas from  a lease  or                                                                    
     property  in the  state or  from the  transportation of                                                                    
     oil or gas  by pipeline in the  state before deductions                                                                    
     for                                                                                                                        
               (A)  dividends and gifts; and                                                                                    
               (B)  wages, salaries, bonuses, or other                                                                          
     similar  payments  to  owners,  partners,  members,  or                                                                    
     shareholders of the entity."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 34, following line 20:                                                                                                
          Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                     
        "*  Sec. 40.  The  uncodified law  of  the State  of                                                                
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          APPLICABILITY. Section 37 of this Act applies to                                                                      
     an   entity   with   qualified  taxable   income   over                                                                    
     $4,000,000  for  a  tax  year  beginning  on  or  after                                                                    
     January 1, 2023.                                                                                                           
        *  Sec.  41. The  uncodified  law  of the  State  of                                                                  
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          TRANSITION: PAYMENT OF TAX. A person subject to                                                                       
     tax before  the effective date  of sec. 37 of  this Act                                                                    
     under  AS 43.20.019,  added by  sec.  37  of this  Act,                                                                    
     shall pay  the balance of  the tax  due for a  tax year                                                                    
     ending  before  January 1,  2024, by  January 1,  2025.                                                                    
     Until January 1, 2025, the  Department of Revenue shall                                                                    
     waive  interest  that   would  otherwise  accrue  under                                                                    
     AS 43.05.225 and civil  and criminal penalties accruing                                                                    
     under AS 43.05.220,  43.05.245, and 43.05.290  that are                                                                    
     a result of the retroactivity of this Act."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 35, line 2:                                                                                                           
          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
        "*  Sec. 44.  The  uncodified law  of  the State  of                                                                
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          RETROACTIVITY OF REGULATIONS. Notwithstanding a                                                                       
     contrary provision  of AS 44.62.240, if  the Department                                                                    
     of Revenue expressly designates  in the regulation that                                                                    
     the  regulation  applies  retroactively to  a  specific                                                                    
     date,  a  regulation  adopted   by  the  department  to                                                                    
     implement,  interpret,  make   specific,  or  otherwise                                                                    
     carry out sec. 37 of  this Act applies retroactively to                                                                    
     that date.                                                                                                                 
        *  Sec.  45. The  uncodified  law  of the  State  of                                                                  
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          RETROACTIVITY. Sections 37, 40, and 41 of this                                                                        
     Act are retroactive to January 1, 2023.                                                                                    
        * Sec. 46. Sections 37, 40  - 42, 44, and 45 of this                                                                  
     Act take effect immediately under AS 01.10.070(c)."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:07:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  that Amendment  9 addresses  an issue                                                               
that  has  been  before  the   legislature  for  many  years.  He                                                               
explained that  this amendment closes  a loophole and  puts North                                                               
Slope oil companies  in parity tax status. He said  that there is                                                               
an  S-corporation provision  allowing  organizations to  classify                                                               
under the  IRS tax code  rather than a C-corporation.  He pointed                                                               
out that while  the majority of North Slope oil  companies are C-                                                               
corporations,  one  individual (who  may  be  located outside  of                                                               
Alaska) is incorporated as an  S-corporation and therefore is not                                                               
paying  corporate income  taxes. He  pointed out  that Alaska  is                                                               
heavily dependent on the revenue  from resource development - and                                                               
oil is a non-renewable, finite  resource. He noted that the state                                                               
constitution  mandates  that  the legislature  seek  the  maximum                                                               
benefit  for  these  resources   for  Alaskans.  He  stated  that                                                               
Amendment  9   would  ensure  that  companies   are  not  treated                                                               
differently because  of the way  they are incorporated,  which he                                                               
added  is fundamentally  unfair.  He noted  that the  Legislative                                                               
Finance  Department  has  examined  this  issue  and  recommended                                                               
termination of  the S-Corp  exclusion. He  said that  a provision                                                               
was  added on  lines  22  and 23  which  allows  the tax  revenue                                                               
collected to be used to  fund renewable energy or electrical grid                                                               
projects. He estimated  that the yearly amount  received would be                                                               
$100-175 million.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:11:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL   noted  that  Amendment  9   is  a  conceptual                                                               
amendment, as  it was drafted  to version D of  HB 50 and  is not                                                               
complete.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:12:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI added  that Amendment  9 is  retroactive to                                                               
January 1, 2023.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:12:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN expressed  opposition to Amendment 9.  He said he                                                               
understands the desire, but believes  it is heavy tax policy that                                                               
should  be given  full consideration  as  a bill  rather than  an                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP expressed  opposition to Amendment 9  until he is                                                               
able to consider it further.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:13:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  shared her understanding  that the  contents of                                                               
Amendment 9  are also contained  in legislation  currently before                                                               
the  Senate Finance  Committee.  She said  that the  accompanying                                                               
fiscal note was derived from that legislation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:13:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP  said that  he  would  like  to ask  the  Senate                                                               
Finance Committee  about paragraphs 2  and 3 of  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL read  from paragraph  2  of the  aforementioned                                                               
fiscal  note,  which  indicated  that DOR  is  uncertain  of  the                                                               
financial impact these changes would have.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:14:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN expressed  opposition to  Amendment 9.  He voiced                                                               
concern  with  removing the  S-corporation  tax  exemption for  a                                                               
single company. He acknowledged that  the company in question has                                                               
a greater amount of tax liability  than most but pointed out that                                                               
C-corporations do not  have a minimum for  corporate tax payments                                                               
(instead,  all C-corporations  pay  corporate  taxes). He  opined                                                               
that, to  remain equitable, the  tax exemption should  be removed                                                               
for all S-corporations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:15:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL removed her objection.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:15:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  found further  objection and  asked for  a roll                                                               
call vote.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:15:10 PM                                                                                                                    
A  roll call  vote  was taken.  Senators Wielechowski,  Kawasaki,                                                               
Dunbar, and  Giessel voted in  favor of Amendment 9  and Senators                                                               
Kaufman, Claman, and Bishop voted against it. The vote was 4:3.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:15:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  announced that [Amendment  9] was adopted  on a                                                               
vote of 4 yeas and 3 nays.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:15:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:16:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved to adopt  Amendment 10, work order 33-                                                               
GH1567\H.1, to HB 50.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                               33-GH1567\H.1                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                      5/3/24                                                                    
                     A M E N D M E N T  10                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE         BY SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI                                                                      
          TO:  SCS CSHB 50(RES), Draft Version "H"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 11, following "pipelines;":                                                                                 
          Insert "relating to state loans for oil and gas                                                                     
     development  projects  in  the Cook  Inlet  sedimentary                                                                  
     basin;  relating to  the Alaska  Industrial Development                                                                  
     and Export  Authority; requiring the  Alaska Industrial                                                                  
     Development  and  Export   Authority  to  make  certain                                                                  
     reports to  the legislature; relating to  the duties of                                                                  
     the Regulatory Commission of  Alaska, the Department of                                                                  
     Revenue, and the Department of Natural Resources;"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 34, following line 31:                                                                                                
          Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                      
          "(g)  The commission shall, as required under                                                                         
     AS 44.88.850(b), determine whether the  sale price in a                                                                    
     gas sales agreement for gas  produced through a project                                                                    
     partially or fully funded by  a loan under AS 44.88.850                                                                    
     constitutes  a just  and reasonable  immediate delivery                                                                    
     price for gas."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 35, line 8:                                                                                                           
          Delete "(g)"                                                                                                          
          Insert "(h)"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 37, following line 29:                                                                                                
          Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                     
        "* Sec. 48. AS 44.25.020 is amended to read:                                                                        
          Sec. 44.25.020. Duties of department. The                                                                           
     Department of Revenue shall                                                                                              
               (1)  enforce the tax laws of the state;                                                                          
               (2)  collect, account for, have custody of,                                                                      
     invest, and manage all state  funds and all revenues of                                                                    
     the state  except revenues incidental  to a  program of                                                                    
     licensing and  regulation carried  on by  another state                                                                    
     department, funds  managed and  invested by  the Alaska                                                                    
     Retirement Management Board,  and as otherwise provided                                                                    
     by law;                                                                                                                    
               (3)  invest and manage the balance of the                                                                        
     power    development    fund   in    accordance    with                                                                    
     AS 44.83.386;                                                                                                              
               (4)  administer the surety bond program for                                                                      
     licensure as a fish processor or primary fish buyer;                                                                   
               (5)  provide reasonable assistance to the                                                                    
     Alaska  Industrial  Development  and  Export  Authority                                                                
     under AS 44.88.850(c).                                                                                                 
        * Sec. 49.  AS 44.37.020 is amended by  adding a new                                                                  
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
          (d)  The Department of Natural Resources shall                                                                        
     provide reasonable assistance  to the Alaska Industrial                                                                    
     Development     and      Export     Authority     under                                                                    
     AS 44.88.850(c).                                                                                                           
        *  Sec.  50.  AS 44.88  is  amended  by  adding  new                                                                  
     sections to read:                                                                                                          
         Article 10A. Cook Inlet Reserve-Based Lending.                                                                       
          Sec. 44.88.850. Cook Inlet reserve-based lending                                                                    
     account.  (a)  The  Cook  Inlet  reserve-based  lending                                                                  
     account  is  established  in the  revolving  fund.  The                                                                    
     account consists of money or  assets deposited into the                                                                    
     account by  the authority and contributions  from other                                                                    
     sources.                                                                                                                   
          (b)  The authority may use money in the account                                                                       
     to make  one or  more reserve-based  loans to  fund oil                                                                    
     and  gas development  projects the  authority considers                                                                    
     necessary to  increase oil and gas  production from the                                                                    
     Cook Inlet  sedimentary basin. The authority  may, as a                                                                    
     term  of the  loan, accept  an ownership  share in  the                                                                    
     project funded  by the loan.  If the  authority accepts                                                                    
     an  ownership  share  as  a   term  of  the  loan,  the                                                                    
     ownership  share  must be  in  the  form of  a  carried                                                                    
     interest  that  does  not  obligate  the  authority  to                                                                    
     contribute  to the  development costs  of the  project.                                                                    
     The authority may make a loan under this section only                                                                      
               (1)  to a legal entity in compliance with                                                                        
     state and federal laws;                                                                                                    
               (2)  if the loan applicant provides a                                                                            
     written waiver  permitting the  authority to  access or                                                                    
     obtain  copies  of  the loan  applicant's  confidential                                                                    
     records  that are  in possession  of the  Department of                                                                    
     Natural  Resources   or  the  Department   of  Revenue;                                                                    
     information  provided  to   the  authority  under  this                                                                    
     section  shall be  kept confidential  by the  authority                                                                    
     unless disclosure  is authorized by the  loan applicant                                                                    
     or borrower;                                                                                                               
               (3)  if the authority obtains an independent                                                                     
     study  performed by  an  experienced, qualified  expert                                                                    
     that confirms  the valuation of  the loan  security and                                                                    
     the capacity  of the  loan to support  the oil  and gas                                                                    
     development  project  and  to  cause  or  increase  the                                                                    
     commercial  production  of oil  or  gas  from the  Cook                                                                    
     Inlet sedimentary basin;                                                                                                   
               (4)  if the Regulatory Commission of Alaska                                                                      
     determines, under AS 42.05.141(g),  that the sale price                                                                    
     in a  gas sales  agreement for  gas produced  through a                                                                    
     project partially or fully funded  by a loan under this                                                                    
     section  does   not  exceed   a  just   and  reasonable                                                                    
     immediate delivery price for gas;                                                                                          
               (5)  if the authority determines that the                                                                        
     sales price for oil and  gas produced through a project                                                                    
     partially or fully funded by  a loan under this section                                                                    
     is reasonable  and in the  best interests  of residents                                                                    
     of the state.                                                                                                              
          (c)  The authority may request assistance from                                                                        
     the Department  of Revenue under  AS 44.25.020(a)(5) or                                                                    
     the    Department    of   Natural    Resources    under                                                                    
     AS 44.37.020(d) to execute this section.                                                                                   
          (d)  The authority may accept an overriding                                                                           
     royalty interest in  a lease for which a  loan has been                                                                    
     extended under  (b) of  this section if,  as a  term of                                                                    
     the loan,  the overriding  royalty interest  is subject                                                                    
     to  prior   approval  by  the  Department   of  Natural                                                                    
     Resources. The  authority may only have  the overriding                                                                    
     royalty interest  transferred to  the authority  if the                                                                    
     borrower defaults.                                                                                                         
          Sec.   44.88.855.   Cook   Inlet   oil   and   gas                                                                  
     development projects;  report. (a) The  authority shall                                                                  
     evaluate   oil  and   gas   development  projects   the                                                                    
     authority   believes  have   reasonable  potential   to                                                                    
     increase  oil and  gas production  from the  Cook Inlet                                                                    
     sedimentary  basin.  Each  year,  the  authority  shall                                                                    
     prepare  a   report  related  to  those   oil  and  gas                                                                    
     development  projects and  shall, by  the first  day of                                                                    
     each regular  session of  the legislature,  deliver the                                                                    
     report to the  senate secretary and the  chief clerk of                                                                    
     the   house   of   representatives   and   notify   the                                                                    
     legislature  that  the  report  is  available.  At  the                                                                    
     request  of a  legislative committee,  a representative                                                                    
     of  the authority  shall appear  in  that committee  to                                                                    
     review  the report.  For each  oil and  gas development                                                                    
     project, the report must include                                                                                           
               (1)  a cost estimate for the project;                                                                            
               (2)  the potential recoverable gas from the                                                                      
     project;                                                                                                                   
               (3)  the projected rate of return for the                                                                        
     project;                                                                                                                   
               (4)  if the authority recommends a reserve-                                                                      
     based  loan  for  the  project,  the  amount  of  funds                                                                    
     necessary  for deposit  into  the  Cook Inlet  reserve-                                                                    
     based  lending  account  to  provide  a  loan  for  the                                                                    
     project  and the  recommended source  of funds  for the                                                                    
     deposit.                                                                                                                   
          (b)             Notwithstanding      AS 44.88.215,                                                                    
     44.88.850(b)(2),  or   any  other  law,   a  borrower's                                                                    
     information shall  be subject  to the  public reporting                                                                    
     requirements  under   this  section.  Each   year,  the                                                                    
     authority shall prepare a report  related to Cook Inlet                                                                    
     reserve-based loans made  under AS 44.88.850 and shall,                                                                    
     by  the  first  day  of each  regular  session  of  the                                                                    
     legislature,   deliver  the   report   to  the   senate                                                                    
     secretary  and   the  chief  clerk  of   the  house  of                                                                    
     representatives  and notify  the  legislature that  the                                                                    
     report is  available. At the  request of  a legislative                                                                    
     committee,  a  representative  of the  authority  shall                                                                    
     appear  in that  committee  to review  the report.  The                                                                    
     report must                                                                                                                
               (1)   identify  each  entity borrowing  funds                                                                    
     under AS 44.88.850;                                                                                                        
               (2)    list  the   amount  borrowed  by  each                                                                    
     borrower and the date each loan was approved;                                                                              
               (3)   include a summary  of the terms  of the                                                                    
     lending agreement with each borrower;                                                                                      
               (4)  summarize each  project for which a loan                                                                    
     was made, including  the status of the  project and the                                                                    
     volume  of oil  and  gas produced  and  expected to  be                                                                    
     produced from the project;                                                                                                 
               (5)  list the status  of payments made on the                                                                    
     loan,  including whether  the loan  is or  ever was  in                                                                    
     default.                                                                                                                   
        *  Sec. 51.  AS 44.88.900 is  amended by  adding new                                                                  
     paragraphs to read:                                                                                                        
               (20)    "oil  and  gas  development  project"                                                                    
     means a  development project to  produce proven  oil or                                                                    
     gas reserves;                                                                                                              
               (21)  "reserve-based loan"  means a loan made                                                                    
     against  and fully  secured by  an oil  and gas  field,                                                                    
     proven undeveloped  or developed oil and  gas reserves,                                                                    
     or other assets of the entity receiving the loan."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 40, line 19:                                                                                                          
          Delete "Section 51"                                                                                                   
          Insert "Section 55"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:16:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said  that   the  idea  for  Amendment  10                                                               
generated  from  Representative  McKay  in  the  House  Resources                                                               
Standing  Committee.  He  explained that  this  amendment  allows                                                               
Alaska  Industrial Development  and Export  Authority (AIDEA)  to                                                               
offer  reserve-space  lending. He  said  that  companies in  Cook                                                               
Inlet are  facing tremendous  capital constraint,  in spite  of a                                                               
desire to build and gas is  abundant. He surmised that the amount                                                               
of gas  would be enough to  solve the state's gas  issues for the                                                               
next ten  years. He  noted that  he has  worked with  AIDEA, DNR,                                                               
DOR, Department of  Law (DOL), and the governor's  office to come                                                               
up with the  language in Amendment 10. He shared  his belief that                                                               
there is support  for the amendment. He also noted  that there is                                                               
little  cost associated,  as  this would  simply  allow AIDEA  to                                                               
offer reserve-space lending.  He said that RCA  would be required                                                               
to set just and reasonable gas rates.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:18:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  commented that an explanation  of "reserve-space                                                               
lending" may be helpful for those who are unfamiliar.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:18:59 PM                                                                                                                    
FADIL LIMANI,  Deputy Commissioner, Department of  Revenue (DOR),                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska,  said  that  DOR  has  not  been  engaged  in                                                               
discussions  on  Amendment  10 or  in  conversations  related  to                                                               
reserve-space lending.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:19:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  asked if  DOR has  any information  on reserve-                                                               
based lending.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:19:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LIMANI replied  no. He added that the  department has limited                                                               
information on this topic.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:19:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  expressed surprise  and said that  he spoke                                                               
with  DNR  and  DOR  several times  regarding  Amendment  10.  He                                                               
pointed out that  "reserve-based loan" is defined  in Section 51,                                                               
line 31  of the amendment.  He explained  that a prospect  with a                                                               
large degree  of gas would  be able  to pledge their  reserves as                                                               
collateral in order to receive  a loan through [Alaska Industrial                                                               
Development and Export Authority  (AIDEA)]. He explained how this                                                               
would protect [AIDEA's] interests.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:20:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL recalled a Joint  Resources committee meeting in                                                               
which a  representative from the  Cosmopolitan Oil and  Gas Field                                                               
said  that   his  organization  had  not   approached  AIDEA  for                                                               
financial  assistance. She  stated that  Amendment 11  would open                                                               
the door for this.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:21:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  acknowledged that there are  concerns about                                                               
AIDEA's  investments.   He  opined   that  there  is   no  better                                                               
investment than  this. He pointed out  that there is a  crisis in                                                               
Cook Inlet and said that this  provides an opportunity to use the                                                               
money  in AIDEA  for something  that  would benefit  at least  70                                                               
percent  of Alaskans  -  particularly those  who  live along  the                                                               
railbelt  and utilize  natural gas.  He emphasized  the potential                                                               
benefit for the economy, residential  consumers, and the business                                                               
community. He reiterated that this  is the best investment option                                                               
and would help the state avoid taking out questionable loans.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:22:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  opined  that   100  percent  of  Alaskans  would                                                               
benefit.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:22:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL removed  her objection;  she  found no  further                                                               
objection and Amendment 10 was adopted.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL solicited a motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:23:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  moved to  adopt  Amendment  11, work  order  33-                                                               
GH1567\H.3, to HB 50.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                               33-GH1567\H.3                                                                    
                                                     Dunmire                                                                    
                                                      5/3/24                                                                    
                     A M E N D M E N T  11                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
          TO:  SCS CSHB 50(RES), Draft Version "H"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 11, following "pipelines;":                                                                                 
          Insert "relating to an audit of carbon storage                                                                      
     leases conducted by the legislative audit division;"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 40, following line 13:                                                                                                
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
        "*  Sec. 52.  The  uncodified law  of  the State  of                                                                
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          LEGISLATIVE   AUDIT   DIVISION   REPORT   TO   THE                                                                    
     LEGISLATURE.  The  legislative   audit  division  shall                                                                    
     conduct an audit of carbon  storage leases in the state                                                                    
     under AS 38.05.700 - 38.05.795  and submit the audit to                                                                    
     the senate secretary  and the chief clerk  of the house                                                                    
     of representatives  on or  before January 1,  2033, and                                                                    
     notify  the legislature  that the  audit is  available;                                                                    
     the  audit  must  include detailed  fiscal  information                                                                    
     from each  fiscal year, beginning with  the fiscal year                                                                    
     ending June 30,  2025, total revenues and  costs to the                                                                    
     state  associated with  carbon storage  leases in  each                                                                    
     fiscal year, and recommendations  to improve the carbon                                                                    
     storage program."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 35, line 2:                                                                                                           
          Delete "Section 51"                                                                                                   
          Insert "Section 52"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:23:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:23:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN said  that Amendment  11 is  a follow  up to  the                                                               
sunset  provision   in  Amendment  2.  He   explained  that  this                                                               
amendment requires  an audit in  2033 and an  accompanying report                                                               
to the  legislature. The report would  include any recommendation                                                               
for the carbon  storage program and would provide  input from the                                                               
Legislative Audit Division  about how the program  is working. He                                                               
added  that if  the legislature  decided to  make changes  to the                                                               
program in  the future, this  would provide  substantive analysis                                                               
to aid in making those changes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  wondered if it  is realistic to  add additional                                                               
audits to the Legislative Audit Division's workload.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:24:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN replied  that this  is  a single  audit in  2033,                                                               
rather than an  annual audit. He surmised that,  given the length                                                               
of time  before the  audit date,  the Legislative  Audit Division                                                               
would comply.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:25:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL removed her objection; she found no further                                                                    
objection and Amendment 11 was adopted.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:25:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL solicited the will of the committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:25:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP moved to report SCS CSHB 50, work order 33-                                                                     
GH1567\H,   as   amended,    from   committee   with   individual                                                               
recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:26:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL found no objection and SCS CSHB 50(RES) was                                                                    
reported from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 50 Public Testimony Rec'd as of 5.2.24.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 CS Workdraft Version H.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Explanation of Changes Ver. D to Ver. H.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Amendment #D.45 Backup.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Amendment #D.44.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Amendment #D.45.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Amendment #H.1.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Amendment #H.3.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Conceptual Amendment #1.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Amendment #D.36.pdf SRES 5/3/2024 3:30:00 PM
HB 50