Legislature(2011 - 2012)BARNES 124
02/10/2011 03:00 PM House ENERGY
| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| Presentation(s) Assessments of the Alaska Sustainable Energy Act of 2010 | |
| HB39 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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| *+ | HB 39 | TELECONFERENCED | |
HB 39-RCA UTILITY RATES; REFUND PROCEDURES
4:38:50 PM
CO-CHAIR PRUITT made a motion to adopt proposed committee
substitute (CS) for HB 39, Version 27-LS0228\D, Kane, 2/9/11, as
the working draft.
4:39:21 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN objected. As the sponsor, he introduced
HB 39, which requires that before a utility can collect a
refundable rate, it must have an approved refund plan in place.
The bill also directs the Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA)
to devise a standard refund procedure available for all
utilities to use in their rate filings. Representative Petersen
explained that this issue came to his attention when his
constituents questioned the delay in receiving refunds due after
litigating against a utility. Although the decision was not
appealed by the utility, the refund procedure took over nine
months to complete. He opined the bill would allow consumers to
receive refunds faster, utilities would save legal costs and
interest, and the RCA would not have to adjudicate refund
procedures.
4:41:20 PM
DAVID DUNSMORE, Staff, Representative Pete Petersen, Alaska
State Legislature, informed the committee the bill would only
apply to refundable rate cases. Beginning a sectional analysis,
he said section 1 explicitly creates the option of having a plan
preapproved by the RCA. Section 2 incorporates implementation
language, Section 3 directs that the bill, if enacted, would
take effect on 7/1/13, and Section 4 directs that the
implementation section would take effect immediately. Mr.
Dunsmore recognized Anchorage Water and Wastewater Utility
(AWWU) and Chugach Electric Association, Inc. for their
contributions to the bill.
4:43:27 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether there are cases in which a
rate refund may not be possible.
MR. DUNSMORE explained the general procedure is for a utility to
request a tariff filing to modify its tariff to a new rate. The
RCA has 45 days to accept the change or to open a docket and
schedule a hearing for testimony from the attorney general.
Utilities can request a nonrefundable option, but if the RCA
opens a docket, the utility will usually wish to charge the new
rate on an interim basis while awaiting the RCA's decision, but
that is not required.
4:45:14 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER clarified that in every request for a
rate change, there is the possibility of a refund.
MR. DUNSMORE indicated no, because the utility "could choose not
to ask for the option of refundable rates." He opined that in
most cases the utility will request the contingency that if the
rates are not accepted at first, customers will be charged on an
interim basis. In further response to Representative Saddler,
he confirmed that if the rate is denied, there will be a refund
due, although the approved rate is often "somewhere in the
middle."
4:46:34 PM
CO-CHAIR PRUITT asked whether there is support for the bill from
utilities or others.
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN inquired as to any opposition.
4:47:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN said he was not aware of any opposition
at this time.
4:47:18 PM
CO-CHAIR PRUITT referred to the additional staff required by the
RCA as indicated on the accompanying fiscal note. He asked for
the purpose of this staff.
4:47:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN said that according to the chairman of
the RCA, the commission is very short-handed right now.
4:48:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK reviewed the circumstances of a refund. He
observed that the bill would require that a refund plan is in
place before the refund process begins, "so everybody knows what
is to be expected, and the plan is in place, and that way the
ratepayers can be paid sooner."
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN indicated yes.
4:49:57 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER recalled that the ENSTAR Natural Gas
Company (ENSTAR) litigation on a rate refund [RCA docket U-08-
142 ENSTAR] took about two years to resolve. He asked how
ratepayers who move out-of-state are reached.
MR. DUNSMORE advised that ENSTAR sent notices to its customers'
last known addresses.
4:51:13 PM
CO-CHAIR PRUITT asked whether the utilities have indicated that
enactment of the bill would cause additional cost that they
would pass on to their customers.
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN said the intent of the bill is to lower
cost by making refunds simpler and easier for everyone.
4:51:54 PM
MR. DUNSMORE added that this issue is addressed by a committee
substitute (CS). Chugach Electric Association, Inc. suggested
adding language to the bill that specifically states the option
that the utility does not have to create a refund plan "from
scratch, [but] the RCA will have a preapproved plan in place
that utilities can take advantage of when they file their
rates."
4:52:43 PM
STUART GOERING, Assistant Attorney General, Commercial/Fair
Business Section, Civil Division (Anchorage), Department of Law
(DOL), disclosed the various functions of the attorney general
related to the Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA). He
clarified that he was now representing the RCA and his duties
are to advise the RCA during adjudication processes, and to
represent it on appeal. Mr. Goering stated that his testimony
was at the request of the RCA's chairman, and that he was
primarily available for questions, but advised that the scope of
his comments would be limited to technical and procedural
matters. If the committee desires testimony from the commission
on policy matters, an issue must be raised in a public meeting
with the commissioners as a whole to establish the RCA's
position. Calling attention to the bill, Mr. Goering noted
Section 2 addresses the "procedures and guidelines for an
acceptable utility refund plan." He stated that the only way
for the RCA, or any state agency, to set policy and to establish
enforceable guidelines and procedures is through the regulations
process governed by the Alaska Administrative Procedures Act,
and that the act "is not actually a, something that's designed
for rapid action." These procedures are outside the control of
the RCA, and it would be unlikely that the RCA could adopt
regulations implementing the concept of the bill by 1/1/2012.
He described the regulation procedure. In addition, he pointed
out that RCA docket U-08-142 ENSTAR, seems to be the basis for
the proposed bill; however, that was a truly unique case
involving not a normal rate, but a rate under a special
provision in the commission's regulations relating to adjustment
clauses. As those rates become effective in a different manner,
he stressed that the abovementioned docket was "a really
extraordinary situation and it is very unlikely that any refund
plan ... in advance could have taken, could have anticipated,
there being a refund ...." Mr. Goering opined that refunds in
general have to be viewed on a case-by-case basis, and often it
is unknown what will be appropriate for the refund procedure.
He then addressed an earlier question of when there could be a
situation in which a utility would never face a refund
obligation. He answered that a utility may file for a rate that
is lower than its existing rate thus there would be no refund.
Returning to the language in proposed HB 39, he said there are
two ways a utility can handle the way money is collected under
an interim rate. The first is that the money can be used by the
utility for operations, with allowances for the possibility that
it may be needed to meet a refund obligation.
5:01:49 PM
MR. GOERING continued to explain that the other option is for
the utility to put the difference between the previous and
interim rates in escrow, thereby preventing a situation where
there is a potential refund in the tens of millions of dollars
that the utility cannot pay. On the other hand, the
administrative costs of issuing a refund could far exceed the
amount of a very small refund. He concluded that each refund
case is unique and designing a refund plan "that will cover all
possible situations would be a lot more difficult than
adjudicating them case-by-case."
5:03:37 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked the RCA to explain its fiscal note.
MR. GOERING deferred to RCA Commissioner Patch.
5:05:04 PM
CO-CHAIR PRUITT announced that HB 39 was heard and held.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 39 - 1 Hearing request table of contents D.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| HB 39 - 3 version D (draft CS).pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| HB 39 - 4 Summary of changes D.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| HB 39 - 2 version A (original bill).pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| HB 39 - 5 Sectional Analysis for version D.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| HB 39 - 6 Supporting Documents - Enstar refund plan filing with the RCA.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| HB 39 - 7 Supporting Documents - Timeline of Enstar case by Rep. Pete Petersen's office.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| HB 39 - 8 Fiscal Note-CCED-RCA-2-4-11.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 HB 39 - RCA utility rates and refund procedures |
| A - Cold Climate Housing Research Center Presentation.pptx |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
A - Cold Climate Housing Research Center Cold Climate Housing Research Center Presentation |
| B - Alaska Affordable Heating Program Fact Sheet by the Alaska Division of Public Assistance.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
B - Alaska Division of Public Assistance Presentation |
| HB 39 - 9 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
HB 39 |
| D - Alaska Power Association 2011 Energy Initiatives.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
D - Alaska Power Association 2011 Energy Initiatives Presentation |
| C - Alaska Center for Energy and Power.ppt |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
C - Alaska Center for Energy and Power Presentation |
| E - Renewable Energy Alaska Project.pdf |
HENE 2/10/2011 3:00:00 PM |
E - Renewable Energy Alaska Project |