Legislature(2025 - 2026)BARNES 124

02/10/2025 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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03:15:47 PM Start
03:16:16 PM Presentation(s): Housing in Alaska, Opportunities and Challenges
04:15:10 PM HB80
04:52:54 PM HB34
05:18:42 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: Housing in Alaska, Opportunities TELECONFERENCED
and Challenges
Melanie Bahnke, Housing Alaskans Public Private
Partnership; Mike Robbins, Anchorage Community
Development Authority; Shaun Debenham, Debenham,
LLC; Griffin Hagle-Forster, Alaska Association of
Housing Authorities; Mindy O’Neill, Cold Climate
Housing Research Center
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 80 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 34 AK INNOVATION COUNCIL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                  HB 34-AK INNOVATION COUNCIL                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of HB 30.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:52:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 34,  "An Act establishing the Alaska Innovation                                                               
Council;  and relating  to financial  disclosures for  members of                                                               
the Alaska Innovation Council."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:54:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KY HOLLAND,  Alaska State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor, presented  HB 34.  He  shared that he has  been involved                                                               
in  the  Alaska  entrepreneurial  and  innovation  ecosystem  for                                                               
approximately 10 years.  He  stated that innovation is the center                                                               
of  the economy  in the  United States.   He  said that  the U.S.                                                               
economy has grown  two-thirds since World War II,  largely due to                                                               
innovation  and  the evolution  of  technology.   He  stated  the                                                               
opportunity  for innovation  has resulted  in the  development of                                                               
new businesses.  He cited  the creation of General Communications                                                               
Incorporated (GCI) as an example of entrepreneurial innovation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  asserted that  the opportunity  in Alaska                                                               
is  in  diversifying the  economy  and  investing in  high-growth                                                               
emerging  sectors, such  as mariculture,  seafood technologies  &                                                               
logistics,  et cetera.    He explained  that  Alaska published  a                                                               
Comprehensive Economic  Development Strategy  (CEDS) in  2022 and                                                               
highlighted  goals   including:    cultivating   growth  sectors,                                                               
supporting  an  entrepreneurial  ecosystem, building  &  updating                                                               
foundations, developing Alaska's  workforce, building a resilient                                                               
economy,  and   strengthening  Alaska's  economic  engine.     He                                                               
emphasized that 89 percent of net  job creation in Alaska over 10                                                               
years is generated from businesses  that are less than five years                                                               
old.    He  argued  that Alaska's  economy  has  been  relatively                                                               
stagnant  for  about  15  years,   stating  that  the  number  of                                                               
companies  has  been  "relatively  flat"  and  that  the  working                                                               
population has decreased.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  referred  to a  PowerPoint  presentation                                                               
[hard  copy  included  in  committee   file],  to  highlight  the                                                               
proposed provisions  of HB 34.   He  drew attention to  the fifth                                                               
slide, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
       Creates a 19-member Alaska Innovation Council with                                                                       
      representatives from government, industry, academia,                                                                      
     labor, and investment sectors.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
    Develops    an    annual    Innovation    &    Economic                                                                     
     Competitiveness Plan for the Governor and Legislature.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Establishes an Innovation Index to benchmark Alaska's                                                                      
     progress against national metrics.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  stated that  HB 34 would  be tied  to the                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,   Community  and  Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED)  for  the  purpose  of   developing  new  businesses  and                                                               
allowing them  to thrive.   He  referenced the  Joint Legislative                                                               
Seafood  Task Force,  the [2024]  Sustainable Energy  Task Force,                                                               
and the  Mariculture Task Force  - all  of which identify  a need                                                               
for innovation and growth acceleration of new businesses.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND shared that he  drew inspiration for HB 34                                                               
from Calgary  and Alberta, Canada, which  utilized an "innovation                                                               
council type of structure."   He explained that Calgary's economy                                                               
was  heavily reliant  on oil,  gas, and  mining approximately  15                                                               
years ago.   He  stated that Calgary,  upon the  realization that                                                               
there  was  little  growth  in  oil,  gas,  and  mining,  brought                                                               
together a  group of people  with the  aim of creating  1,000 new                                                               
technology  startups by  2030.   He  maintained  that Calgary  is                                                               
still  supporting their  legacy economies  [oil, gas,  mining] in                                                               
addition  to developing  data science,  energy technologies,  and                                                               
healthcare   technology.     He  further   referenced  innovation                                                               
councils established in Utah and Washington.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  concluded by  describing the  outcomes of                                                               
the  proposed legislation,  including job  creation and  business                                                               
development.  Additionally, he offered  his hope that HB 34 would                                                               
help to  keep young  people in Alaska  and excite  them regarding                                                               
future  prospects.   Finally, he  noted  that HB  30 includes  an                                                               
entrepreneurship  office and  includes  provisions  for DCCED  to                                                               
support emerging  entrepreneurial activities.  He  stated that HB
34  and HB  30 are  complimentary and  do not  overlap with  each                                                               
other.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:04:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JACQUELINE SUMMERS, Executive Director,  Health TIE, gave invited                                                               
testimony  during the  hearing  on  HB 34.    She explained  that                                                               
Health TIE  is an  Alaska-based healthcare  innovative hub.   She                                                               
reported that Alaska has some  of the highest healthcare costs in                                                               
the country.   She stated  that, through work with  startups both                                                               
in and  outside of  Alaska, she  has launched  a series  of pilot                                                               
projects with  new methods  for addressing  opioid use/treatment,                                                               
independence    for    those   with    intellectual/developmental                                                               
disabilities,  those with  traumatic brain  injuries (TBIs),  and                                                               
senior  care.     She  emphasized  that  there  is   a  need  for                                                               
coordination of activities  within the entrepreneurial ecosystem.                                                               
She described  challenges to connecting healthcare  startups with                                                               
local  nonprofit   organizations  and   social  services.     She                                                               
concluded by offering strong support for HB 34.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:06:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA JANES,  Managing Director,  gBETA, gener8tor,  gave invited                                                               
testimony during  the hearing on  HB 34.   Since 2021,  Ms. Janes                                                               
stated,  gBETA at  gener8tor helped  raise over  $5.5 million  to                                                               
initiate 30  companies and sustain 91  jobs.  She gave  a list of                                                               
the  various  industries she  works  with,  including housing  in                                                               
rural  communities,   clean  outdoor  air   technology,  aviation                                                               
weather  monitoring,  food preservation,  industrial  facilities,                                                               
sustainable energy generation,  oil and gas, and many  more.  She                                                               
said  that  a strong  support  network  is critical  to  success,                                                               
especially in an "islanded place"  like Alaska.  A strong support                                                               
network entails  access to  early capital,  mentorships, exposure                                                               
to    like-minded    entrepreneurs,   and    innovation-supported                                                               
infrastructure.  She offered her  belief that HB 34 addresses the                                                               
need [for  a strong support  network] by assembling a  council of                                                               
investors, entrepreneurs,  and industry leaders who  would advise                                                               
on  best practices,  enhance  commercialization efforts,  promote                                                               
capital  formation  in  Alaska, and  identify  opportunities  for                                                               
action.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  JANES opined  that  the cost  attached to  HB  34 should  be                                                               
looked at as an investment,  not "throwing money away," and noted                                                               
that  the investment  of  time  and money  create  returns.   She                                                               
argued that  there is  a false  sense of  security in  Alaska and                                                               
further stated  that the demand  for medical jobs  is increasing,                                                               
primarily due to the aging  population in Alaska that is expected                                                               
to  peak  in  2035.    However, she  argued  that  the  long-term                                                               
economic  landscape  shows  an out-migration  of  young,  working                                                               
people  due to  a lack  of  "ongoing opportunities."   Ms.  Janes                                                               
concluded that people  in Alaska need to see the  State of Alaska                                                               
invest in long-term opportunities for the state.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:10:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS invited questions from committee members.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:10:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  asked  how the  Alaska  Small  Business                                                               
Development  Center  (ASBDC)  is   different  from  the  proposed                                                               
council.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:10:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  answered  that ASBDC  provides  a  broad                                                               
array of  services, particularly for "bankable"  local businesses                                                               
or   businesses   that  are   eligible   for   a  loan   or   are                                                               
"bootstrap[ped]."     He   offered  commentary   that  technology                                                               
businesses and  technology transfers  require a different  set of                                                               
skills.  He noted that  Path to Prosperity [Business Competition]                                                               
has  been a  successful  program in  Southeast  Alaska (SEAK)  in                                                               
helping  local  entrepreneurs  develop businesses,  and  programs                                                               
like that would  be complemented by ASBDC.  He  stated that ASBDC                                                               
is one  of many tools that  aspiring entrepreneurs/businessowners                                                               
can  utilize   for  aid.     He  stated   that  in   many  cases,                                                               
entrepreneurs    need     additional    help     with    customer                                                               
validation/discovery work.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  provided an  example, stating  that GBeta                                                               
would help  an aspiring entrepreneur with  creating an investable                                                               
business model, which  might eventually lead to  a small business                                                               
opportunity that is  "bankable" and thus could use  help from the                                                               
ASBDC.  He  stated that, throughout the country, it  is common to                                                               
see the entrepreneurial ecosystems feed into the SBDCs.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:13:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  remarked that  HB 34  would create  a 19-                                                               
member council.   He asked  what would oblige the  legislature or                                                               
the administration to follow or  implement the recommendations of                                                               
the Alaska Innovation Council.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  explained  that  he did  not  intend  to                                                               
create required action  in statute.  He stated  that the function                                                               
of  the Alaska  Innovation  Council would  be  advisory, and  the                                                               
Council could identify potential state action.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER clarified that  the function of the Alaska                                                               
Innovation  Council would  be to  generate advice.   He  asserted                                                               
that the cost of the  proposed legislation would be "significant"                                                               
at $500,000.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  responded  that  the  Alaska  Innovation                                                               
Council would  be a "next  step" in developing  methodologies for                                                               
implementing Alaska's  2022 CEDS,  for example.   He  agreed with                                                               
Representative Saddler,  asserting that  whether action  is taken                                                               
would  be  dependent  on  the  will  of  the  commissioners,  the                                                               
governor, and  the legislature.   He reiterated that HB  34 would                                                               
not be "binding" but argued that  Alaska "would have to go beyond                                                               
plans on a shelf that are ignored."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asserted  that he  does not  see how  the                                                               
advice would  be taken  into action with  the voluntary  model of                                                               
the proposed legislation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  gave an anecdotal response,  stating that                                                               
when starting a  business, one typically writes  a business plan.                                                               
He added  that enforcement of  a business plan is  not mandatory.                                                               
He continued  that, if a  business plan  is well thought  out and                                                               
given  to  the  right  people,   people  would  commit  time  and                                                               
resources towards  action, such as getting  said business afloat.                                                               
He further  noted that  there is  no end  to business  plans that                                                               
have been  thought out  and never  acted upon.   He  concluded by                                                               
offering  his  hope  that the  legislature  would  pursue  action                                                               
recommendations of the proposed Alaska Innovation Council.                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2. HB 34 version A text.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
3. HB 34 Sponsor Statement version A.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
4. HB 34 Sectional Analysis version A.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
6. HB 34 Testimony - Received 1.30.25.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Fiscal Note - AIDEA.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
HB 34 Fiscal Note - DCCED.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
1. HB0080A.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
2. HB 80 Version N Sponsor Statement 2.7.2025.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
3. HB 80 Ver N Sectional Analysis 2.7.2025.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
4. HB 80 Supporting Document - N144-AK-Building-Energy-Efficiency-Standard.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
5. HB 80 Supporting Document - 2018_IECC_Alaska_Specific_Amendments.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
6. HB 80 Fiscal Note - DPS.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
7. HB 80 Fiscal Note - DOR - AHFC.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
8. HB 80 Fiscal Note - DCCED.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
House Bill 34 Alaska Innovation Council - LC Presentation.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
HB 80 Supporting Document-Residential Building Safety Code PPT 2.10.2025.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80
HB 34 Supporting Document - Where to Start - 2024 version.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 34
ACDA Legislative testimony 1.10.25.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
Housing Presentation
HB 80 Supporting Document-Letter of Support-ASHSC_HB80_Support_2025-03-03.pdf HL&C 2/10/2025 3:15:00 PM
HB 80