01/29/2025 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE
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| HB57 | |
| HB68 | |
| HB49 | |
| Adjourn | 
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| *+ | HB 49 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HB 57 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HB 34 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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| += | HB 68 | TELECONFERENCED | |
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                        January 29, 2025                                                                                        
                           3:15 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Carolyn Hall, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
Representative Robyn Niayuq Burke                                                                                               
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative David Nelson                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 57                                                                                                               
"An  Act  relating  to  wireless  telecommunications  devices  in                                                               
public schools; and providing for an effective date."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 68                                                                                                               
"An Act  relating to  the sale  of alcohol;  and relating  to the                                                               
posting of warning signs for alcoholic beverages."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 68 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 49                                                                                                               
"An  Act  relating  to   tobacco,  tobacco  products,  electronic                                                               
smoking  products, nicotine,  and  products containing  nicotine;                                                               
raising  the  minimum  age  to  purchase,  exchange,  or  possess                                                               
tobacco, a product containing nicotine,  or an electronic smoking                                                               
product;  relating to  the tobacco  use  education and  cessation                                                               
fund;  relating to  the taxation  of electronic  smoking products                                                               
and vapor products; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 34                                                                                                               
"An Act establishing the Alaska Innovation Council; and relating                                                                
to financial disclosures for members of the Alaska Innovation                                                                   
Council."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  57                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: COMMUNICATION DEVICES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) FIELDS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
01/22/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/22/25       (H)       L&C, EDC                                                                                               
01/29/25       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  68                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALCOHOL: SALE, WARNING SIGNS                                                                                       
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/24/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/24/25       (H)       L&C, HSS                                                                                               
01/24/25       (H)       L&C WAIVED PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, RULE                                                                 
                         23(A)                                                                                                  
01/27/25       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
01/27/25       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
01/27/25       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
01/29/25       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  49                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TOBACCO/NICOTINE/E-CIG AGE; E-CIG TAX                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): HANNAN                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
01/22/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/22/25       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
01/29/25       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KELLY LESSENS, Individual Member                                                                                                
Anchorage School Board                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  As an invited testifier, supported HB 57,                                                                
with some recommendations for change.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEENA BISHOP, Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    As an  invited  testifier,  testified  in                                                             
support of and answered questions during the hearing on HB 57.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
KIM WHITMAN, Co-Founder                                                                                                         
Phone Free Schools Movement                                                                                                     
Overland Park, Kansas                                                                                                           
POSITION  STATEMENT:    As an  invited  testifier,  testified  in                                                             
support of HB 57, with some recommendations for change.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DAVE BOOTH, Principal                                                                                                           
Palmer High School                                                                                                              
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    As an  invited  testifier,  testified  in                                                             
support of and answered questions during the hearing on HB 57.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LON GARRISON, Executive Director                                                                                                
Association of Alaska School Boards                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As an  invited testifier, answered questions                                                             
during the hearing on HB 57.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE BANKOWSKI, Enforcement Supervisor                                                                                           
Alcohol and Marijuana Control Office                                                                                            
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  As an  invited testifier, answered questions                                                             
during the hearing on HB 68.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SARA HANNAN                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor presented HB 49.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HUNTER MEACHUM, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   As staff  to Representative  Hannan, prime                                                             
sponsor of  HB 49,  gave an introductory  presentation on  HB 49,                                                               
and read the sectional analysis.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOE DARNELL, Chief Investigator                                                                                                 
Division of Behavioral Health                                                                                                   
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  As an  invited testifier, answered questions                                                             
during the hearing on HB 49.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE STEFFENS, Deputy Program Manager                                                                                          
Tobacco Prevention and Control Program                                                                                          
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  As an  invited testifier, answered questions                                                             
during the hearing on HB 49.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:15:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZACK  FIELDS  called   the  House  Labor  and  Commerce                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:15   p.m.                                                               
Representatives Carrick, Burke,  Saddler, Coulombe, Nelson, Hall,                                                               
and Fields were present at the call to order.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         HB  57-COMMUNICATION DEVICES IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  announced the first  order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE   BILL    NO.   57   "An    Act   relating    to   wireless                                                               
telecommunications devices  in public schools; and  providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  stated  that  the committee  would  begin  with                                                               
invited testimony on HB 57.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:16:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY LESSENS,  Individual Member, Anchorage School  Board, as an                                                               
invited testifier, supported HB  57 with some recommendations for                                                               
change.  Ms.  Lessens stated HB 57 would  direct school districts                                                               
to develop  and adopt  a policy  that would  prohibit the  use of                                                               
non-school  issued  electronic  devices during  the  school  day,                                                               
including  during passing  and  lunch periods.    She stated  her                                                               
concern that  cellphones are distracting,  and that  students are                                                               
becoming increasingly dependent  on them.  She  stated that there                                                               
are 18 states  that have laws restricting or  prohibiting the use                                                               
of  cell  phones  during  school  hours.    She  noted  that  the                                                               
Department  of Education  and Early  Development (DEED)  passed a                                                               
resolution in  the fall [2024] recommending  the Anchorage School                                                               
District  (ASD) revise  its cell  phone policy.   The  department                                                               
also drafted a model cell phone  policy.  Ms. Lessens offered one                                                               
recommendation   for  a   committee  substitute   (CS)  regarding                                                               
regulated  accessibility  to   electronic  communication  devices                                                               
(ECDs)  dependent on  a student's  level in  school.   She posted                                                               
that devices  become more essential as  students progress through                                                               
school.   She  proposed language  specifying that  elementary and                                                               
middle  school students  would not  be permitted  to access  ECDs                                                               
during  the   day,  only   before  or   after  the   school  day.                                                               
Additionally, she stated that  high school students, particularly                                                               
those with academic  or curricular needs, would  not be permitted                                                               
to access ECDs during the day,  unless directed to do so by their                                                               
teachers in order to accomplish  a specific academic purpose that                                                               
could otherwise  not be accomplished  by devices provided  by the                                                               
district.   She offered an  anecdote, recounting that  staff have                                                               
difficulty "policing" cell phones,  given that students outnumber                                                               
staff members in every school.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEENA  BISHOP, Commissioner,  Department of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development,  as an  invited testifier,  testified in  support of                                                               
and   answered   questions  during   the   hearing   on  HB   57.                                                               
Commissioner  Bishop cited  findings  from the  book, titled  The                                                             
Anxious Generation by  Jonathan Haidt, and Johann  Hari's work on                                                             
focus  and mental  health.   She stated  that recently  published                                                               
research  on the  "anxious generation"  reported  an increase  in                                                               
anxiety,  depression,  and  loneliness among  teenagers.    These                                                               
increases are linked  with the advent of smart  phones and social                                                               
media.   Unlike  prior  generations,  Commissioner Bishop  noted,                                                               
modern teenagers  are navigating  a digital world  facilitated by                                                               
endless notifications,  constant comparison, and fear  of missing                                                               
out (FOMO).  Social media  algorithms' sole focus is content that                                                               
drives  engagement,  and  research shows  that  negative  content                                                               
increases engagement.   Commissioner Bishop stated  that research                                                               
shows  visual  platforms  like Snapchat  and  Instagram  increase                                                               
issues with body image, whereas  anonymous platforms like Yik Yak                                                               
increase  incidents of  harassment online.   Commissioner  Bishop                                                               
argued  that  removing  cell phones  during  school  hours  gives                                                               
students a  reprieve from the "constant  connectivity" and allows                                                               
them to focus on learning and  personal growth.  She cited Johann                                                               
Hari's book, Stolen  Focus, stating that the  addictive design of                                                             
apps and platforms, combined with  interruptions, makes it nearly                                                               
impossible to concentrate  on a deeper level.   She asserted that                                                               
removing cellphones  from classrooms would allow  for students to                                                               
maintain attention.  Adolescents spend  an average of seven hours                                                               
daily  on screens,  much  of  which is  on  social  media.   Both                                                               
Jonathan  Haidt  and Johann  Hari  emphasized  the importance  of                                                               
face-to-face  interactions for  emotional growth  and bonding  in                                                               
their respective bodies of work.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  BISHOP  stated  when cellphones  are  removed  from                                                               
schools, students  are encouraged  to engage directly  with their                                                               
peer and  teachers, allowing them  to practice engaging  in real-                                                               
world  dynamics.     She  stated  that  Haidt,   in  The  Anxious                                                             
Generation,  found  links  between  cell phone  usage  and  sleep                                                             
deprivation.   Commissioner  Bishop maintained  that unrestricted                                                               
phone   use   during  school   hours   increases   the  risk   of                                                               
cyberbullying,   a  significant   contributor   to  anxiety   and                                                               
depression in teens.   In 2021, the Pew  Research Center reported                                                               
that  59 percent  of U.S.  teens  experienced cyberbullying,  the                                                               
most  common activities  being offensive  name-calling, spreading                                                               
false  rumors, and  receiving  explicit  images without  consent.                                                               
She noted that  online harassment can escalate  quickly and reach                                                               
a  wider audience  over  time.   In 2018,  a  study published  in                                                               
Science Magazine  found that false  or negative news spread  at a                                                               
rate of  six times  faster on Twitter,  than positive  or neutral                                                               
news.  The  Pew Research Center also found  that negative content                                                               
on platforms  like Facebook receive higher  engagement, via likes                                                               
and shares.   In  2019, the Journal  of School  Violence reported                                                             
that 35  percent of bystanders  who witness  cyberbullying engage                                                               
in it by forwarding the content.   She asserted that social media                                                               
platforms are designed to  exploit human psychology, particularly                                                               
the  negativity  bias.    She  concluded  that  a  technology  as                                                               
pervasive  as  cell  phones requires  systemic  solutions.    She                                                               
asserted  that  a  phone-free   environment  in  school  empowers                                                               
students to  focus on  their education,  connect with  peers, and                                                               
develop resiliency.   Finally, she  stated that HB 57  is aligned                                                               
with the model policy recommendations as put out by DEED.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:34:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIM  WHITMAN,  Co-Founder, Phone  Free  Schools  Movement, as  an                                                               
invited  testifier,  testified in  support  of  HB 57  with  some                                                               
recommendations for  change.  Ms.  Whitman stated  research found                                                               
that 97 percent of students use  phones during the school day for                                                               
an  average  of  43  minutes, typically  spent  on  social  media                                                               
applications ("apps"), gaming apps, or  YouTube.  She stated that                                                               
one-third  of teenagers  report being  exposed to  pornography at                                                               
school,  35 percent  of teenagers  admitted to  using their  cell                                                               
phone to  cheat, and 65  percent of students  report distractions                                                               
via  electronic devices  in the  classroom.   She stated  that 72                                                               
percent  of U.S.  high school  students report  cell phones  as a                                                               
major problem in  the classroom.  In 2017, the  Brain Drain study                                                             
found  that the  presence  of  a phone,  even  when silenced  and                                                               
stowed away,  reduced cognitive capacity.   The study  found that                                                               
students perform  best on tests  and when learning  new materials                                                               
when  their  cellphones  are  stored  in  separate  rooms.    The                                                               
National  Education  Association  (NEA)  conducted  a  poll  with                                                               
results finding  that 83 percent  of members  support prohibiting                                                               
cell phone  usage during  the entire school  day, from  the first                                                               
bell  to the  last  bell.   She  noted that,  in  2023, the  U.S.                                                               
surgeon general  advised that  learning time  and social  time in                                                               
schools be phone-free.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. WHITMAN  offered modifications  for HB  57.   She recommended                                                               
the  removal of  exceptions for  emergency purposes,  noting that                                                               
first  responders and  experts suggest  that  students should  be                                                               
focused  on  listening  to  instructions   in  the  event  of  an                                                               
emergency, not  communicating with  parents.  She  remarked that,                                                               
if  students  were  instructed  to   hide  in  the  event  of  an                                                               
emergency, the  notification of a  phone could alert  an intruder                                                               
to  the  student's location.    She  noted the  increased  parent                                                               
presence  on campus  in the  event  of an  emergency could  block                                                               
evacuation  efforts.   Additionally, she  said high  call volumes                                                               
could  overwhelm  communication  systems, and  potentially  block                                                               
phone lines.   Ms.  Whitman also recommended  the addition  of an                                                               
exception  for documented  medical or  Individualized Educational                                                               
Program  (IEP) needs,  such as  a  child with  diabetes who  uses                                                               
their  phone to  track their  insulin levels.   In  addition, she                                                               
recommended that HB 57 mandate  the phone be stored separate from                                                               
the person,  due to  the phone's addictive  nature.   Lastly, Ms.                                                               
Whitman recommended  adding provisions to prohibit  students from                                                               
accessing social  media during  the day,  as well  as restricting                                                               
schools from  communicating with children  on social media.   She                                                               
added that parents  should be given a choice  in their children's                                                               
presence  on  social  media, and  anecdotally,  she  shared  that                                                               
parents  have voiced  frustrations at  schools' requirements  for                                                               
students to communicate  with their peers/teachers/administration                                                               
via social media.  She reiterated her support of HB 57.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:40:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  BOOTH,  Principal,  Palmer   High  School,  as  an  invited                                                               
testifier, testified in support  of and answered questions during                                                               
the hearing on HB 57.   Mr. Booth stated Palmer High School (PHS)                                                               
banned cellphones  from 7 a.m.  to 2:15 p.m.  approximately three                                                               
years ago.   In the  area of  discipline, Mr. Booth  stated there                                                               
was  a 43-percent  decline  in  alcohol use  by  students, a  67-                                                               
percent  decline in  drug use  by students,  and an  87.5-percent                                                               
decline  in  vape/tobacco  use.    He  stated  that  PHS  had  36                                                               
cyberbullying infractions  in the first semester  of the previous                                                               
year [2023-2024], and that the  school has had two incidents thus                                                               
far during the 2024-2025 school year.   In the area of academics,                                                               
Mr.  Booth stated  there was  a 28  percent-reduction in  failing                                                               
grades between  the first semester  of the 2023-2024  school year                                                               
and  the  first  semester  of  the 2024-2025  school  year.    He                                                               
reported  that there  was a  14 percent  improvement in  students                                                               
passing Algebra I and declared  similar statistics for English I.                                                               
In response  to earlier testimony,  Mr. Booth offered  his belief                                                               
that there  is no problem  with "policing," as student  will rise                                                               
to meet high  expectations.  Mr. Booth asserted  that students at                                                               
PHS are happier, and more sociable.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOOTH stated that research shows  that after a child looks at                                                               
a  cellphone   in  any  capacity,   the  distraction   lasts  for                                                               
approximately 20 minutes.   He noted that PHS  has six transition                                                               
periods, amounting  to 120 minutes  of distraction  (assuming the                                                               
cellphones are  accessed during transition periods)  throughout a                                                               
5.5-hour school day.   Mr. Booth stated that the  school is safer                                                               
without cellphones,  due to the  school's ability to  monitor the                                                               
content that  students access throughout the  day through school-                                                               
owned devices.   He stated that  they [PHS staff] have  been able                                                               
to  intervene  when  students  have   thoughts  of  self-harm  or                                                               
violence.   He  concluded  that the  cell phone  ban  has been  a                                                               
monumental transformation for PHS.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:46:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS invited questions from committee members.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  asked whether there was  a concern among                                                               
local  authorities   if  the  state  were   to  pass  legislation                                                               
regarding cell  phone use.   Additionally, she asked why  ASD has                                                               
not created its own policies regarding cell phone usage.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:47:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LESSENS  responded that the existing  policies regarding cell                                                               
phone usage  in ASD is  out of date due  to the diversity  of the                                                               
district.    She  added  that   she  believed  local  control  is                                                               
important and noted that being her  reason for supporting a CS to                                                               
allow for a little more nuanced HB 57.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:51:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BURKE  asked how  many school  districts currently                                                               
have a cell phone policy.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMISSIONER  BISHOP  responded that  all  districts  have a  cell                                                               
phone  policy.   She said  she would  get back  to Representative                                                               
Burke regarding how many districts  a have cell phone restriction                                                               
policy.  In  response to an earlier  question from Representative                                                               
Coulombe  regarding local  control,  Commissioner Bishop  posited                                                               
that action  needs to be  taken at the  state level, and  that it                                                               
will   take  a   collective   effort   from  students,   parents,                                                               
legislators,  and educators  to address  the issues  arising from                                                               
cellphone use in schools.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:54:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BURKE  noted that  there is  language in  the bill                                                               
that requires  districts adopt a  policy.  She asked  whether the                                                               
required policy must be the model policy recommended by DEED.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:55:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS stated  that he  did not  intend to  prescribe a                                                               
specific policy.   He  stated it is  the intent of  HB 57  to ban                                                               
cell phones during the school day.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:55:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LON GARRISON,  Executive Director,  Association of  Alaska School                                                               
Boards  (AASB),  as  an  invited  testifier,  answered  questions                                                               
during the hearing on HB 57.  He  noted that AASB has had a model                                                               
cell phone policy  for approximately 12 years.   He remarked that                                                               
when cell phones  first came out, it was thought  that they could                                                               
be beneficial  to the  learning environment to  some degree.   He                                                               
stated that  there is already  a comprehensive model  policy that                                                               
is  not exclusive  to cellphones.    He offered  his belief  that                                                               
there is an  opportunity to modify existing  policies, as opposed                                                               
to starting over.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:57:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  stated her support  of the intent  of the                                                               
legislation.   She  voiced concerns  about  semi-urban and  rural                                                               
schools  that use  technology to  conduct remote  learning.   She                                                               
remarked that there are times when  cell phones are used in place                                                               
of malfunctioning  devices.   Representative Carrick  stated that                                                               
while  she  supported the  ban  of  social  media and  phones  in                                                               
school, she  is concerned  about what  might happen  when school-                                                               
owned  technology  malfunctions  under  HB  57.    Representative                                                               
Carrick asked whether DEED would fill in those resource gaps.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:59:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BISHOP offered her belief  that needing a cell phone                                                               
to  fulfill academic  obligations  does not  outweigh the  damage                                                               
done  by  social media  and  cell  phones.   Commissioner  Bishop                                                               
stated that  it is  important that  schools offer  technology and                                                               
other  supports for  learning in  conjunction with  a cell  phone                                                               
ban.  She  offered her belief that [teachers] will  still be able                                                               
to teach without cell phones in the classroom.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:00:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK stated  that  HB 57  is  not specific  to                                                               
social  media use  and  acknowledged  there is  no  way to  write                                                               
legislation  to ban  social media  use  on phones  in school  and                                                               
allow  academic use.   She  voiced her  concern about  the under-                                                               
resourcing in schools in Alaska.   Many students in districts use                                                               
phones to  connect to teachers,  other students,  and classrooms.                                                               
She noted  there are cases  where students  have no other  way to                                                               
connect  to their  educational institutions  except for  on their                                                               
cell phones.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WHITMAN agreed  with  Co-Chair Fields  in  stating that,  if                                                               
students  have access  to their  phones, they  will use  them for                                                               
social purposes, not solely for  academic purposes.  She asserted                                                               
that the issues regarding connectivity  or lack of infrastructure                                                               
in  classrooms would  need  to be  addressed  separate from  cell                                                               
phone restriction policies.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BISHOP,  in response to questions  regarding current                                                               
policy  and  enforcement  from Representative  Nelson,  explained                                                               
that  there is  a cell  phone ban  under the  model policy.   She                                                               
echoed Principal  Boothe in stating  that when a school  has high                                                               
expectations, children will rise to meet those expectations.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:04:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON remarked  that he  doesn't see  how HB  57                                                               
might  be effective  if current  policies  were not  upheld.   He                                                               
noted the  bill would allow  exceptions for  "emergency purposes"                                                               
but does  not define the  term.  He  asked for the  definition of                                                               
"emergency purposes".                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:05:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  responded that he  is inclined to look  to state                                                               
and local  boards to define "emergency  purposes".  Additionally,                                                               
in  response  to  Representative  Nelson's  earlier  comment,  he                                                               
clarified  that while  most school  districts have  a cell  phone                                                               
policy, many do not have a cell phone restriction.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:06:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON stated  that in  current policy,  students                                                               
are  not  supposed to  have  cell  phones  turned  on or  in  the                                                               
classroom, but many students still do so.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:06:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS asked Commissioner Bishop  to speak to how a day-                                                               
long ban would be more effective.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:06:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER BISHOP stated  that there is a  difference between a                                                               
day-long ban  and the existing  policies.  She noted  that [DEED]                                                               
did not know how damaging cell phones were five years ago.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:07:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:07 p.m. to 4:10 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:10:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   asked  Ms.  Whitman  to   describe  her                                                               
organization.  He  asked Co-Chair Fields to  distribute the draft                                                               
and model policies from ASD, DEED, and AASB.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:11:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WHITMAN stated  that the  Phones Free  School Movement  is a                                                               
nonprofit started  by three moms.   She  stated she saw  how cell                                                               
phone  use at  schools was  directly impacting  her children  and                                                               
children around the  world.  After a year of  working with school                                                               
administrators across  the United States, Ms.  Whitman discovered                                                               
three things that were paramount  to a successful phone-free day:                                                               
communication, clear  policy, and  consistent enforcement.   She,                                                               
along  with the  two  other co-founders,  created the  Phone-Free                                                               
Schools Administrator  Toolkit, a roadmap on  how to successfully                                                               
implement  bell-to-bell phone-free  policy.   She noted  that she                                                               
would circulate the "toolkit" with her written testimony.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:13:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   FIELDS,  in   response  to   Representative  Saddler's                                                               
request,  responded  that  the   committee  would  circulate  Ms.                                                               
Whitman's website.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:13:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE asked whether  there was a financial cost                                                               
for the cell phone ban at Palmer High School.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:13:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOOTH  responded  yes  and   no.    He  explained  that  the                                                               
administrators bought  phone pouches  for Palmer High  School but                                                               
did not receive  enough support from the district  office for the                                                               
enforcement of pouch use.  In the  end, there was no cost, as PHS                                                               
did not end up using pouches,  and instead the policy was written                                                               
such that  phones must be  turned off  and be "off  the student."                                                               
This  means that  the phone  can  be in  the backpack  or in  the                                                               
student's locker, for example.  He  stated that when a student is                                                               
seen with a phone  during the school day, it is  turned in to the                                                               
[principal's] office.  He remarked  that, currently, PHS averages                                                               
fewer than two cell phones taken from students daily.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:15:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS asked  Mr. Booth  to  send additional  follow-up                                                               
testimony in writing to the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER requested that  invited testifiers be made                                                               
available for further hearings of HB 57.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 57 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
              HB  68-ALCOHOL: SALE, WARNING SIGNS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of HB 37.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:15:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 68, "An  Act relating to the  sale of alcohol;                                                               
and  relating  to the  posting  of  warning signs  for  alcoholic                                                               
beverages."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:16:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 4:16 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:16:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER moved  to  adopt Amendment  1  to HB  68,                                                               
labeled  34-LS0340\N.1,  C.  Radford,   1/27/25,  which  read  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 1 - 2:                                                                                                       
          Delete "; and relating to the posting of warning                                                                    
     signs for alcoholic beverages"                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, lines 6 - 22:                                                                                                      
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:16:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  noted there  are two  elements of  HB 68:                                                               
lowering  the age  of  service for  alcohol,  and cancer  warning                                                               
signs  for  alcoholic  beverages.    He  remarked  that  the  two                                                               
elements are  separate:   the first is  a workforce  issue, while                                                               
the second is a public health issue.   He stated that while he is                                                               
in support of  lowering the age of service for  alcohol, there is                                                               
another piece of legislation [HB  37] that mirrors the provisions                                                               
in HB  68 for cancer warning  signs for alcoholic beverages.   He                                                               
offered  his belief  that it  is  important to  consider the  two                                                               
issues separately.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:18:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  maintained his  objection to  Amendment 1  to HB
68.   He  stated that  HB  37 would  take an  additional step  in                                                               
consolidating   the  number   of   signs  that   are  posted   in                                                               
establishments.  He remarked that he  is in support of hearing HB
37, but  not supportive of taking  language out of HB  68 at this                                                               
time. Co-Chair  Fields noted further  concerns that  "opening the                                                               
bill up" would  result in delay for an  important workforce bill.                                                               
He felt a  sense of urgency in giving  the [hospitality] industry                                                               
some predictability,  considering the season typically  starts at                                                               
the beginning of summer.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:19:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  supported the amendment to  separate the                                                               
two issues.  She noted there  was a testifier who preferred HB 37                                                               
over the provisions in HB 68.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:19:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER didn't see how  Amendment 1 to HB 68 would                                                               
cause  delay.   He  argued  that  by  taking the  cancer  warning                                                               
provisions  out, HB  68 would  become a  single-issue bill,  thus                                                               
allowing for smoother passage through the legislature.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:20:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  Nelson, Coulombe,                                                               
and Saddler voted in favor of  the motion to adopt Amendment 1 to                                                               
HB 68.   Representatives Burke,  Carrick, Fields, and  Hall voted                                                               
against it.   Therefore, Amendment  1 failed  to be adopted  by a                                                               
vote of 3-4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:20:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER moved  to  adopt Amendment  2  to HB  68,                                                               
labeled 34-LS0340\N.2,  Bergerud/C. Radford, 1/28/25,  which read                                                               
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 17, following "beverages":                                                                                    
          Insert "; the supervision described in this                                                                       
     paragraph must  be provided in  person by a  manager or                                                                
     supervisor of  the business who  is 21 years of  age or                                                                
     older  and  who  has  been charged  with  the  task  of                                                                
     providing the supervision"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 20, following "beverages":                                                                                    
          Insert "; the supervision described in this                                                                       
     paragraph must  be provided in  person by a  manager or                                                                
     supervisor of  the business who  is 21 years of  age or                                                                
     older  and  who  has  been charged  with  the  task  of                                                                
     providing the supervision"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 16, following "beverages":                                                                                    
          Insert "; the supervision described in this                                                                       
     paragraph must  be provided in  person by a  manager or                                                                
     supervisor of  the business who  is 21 years of  age or                                                                
     older  and  who  has  been charged  with  the  task  of                                                                
     providing the supervision"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 26, following "beverages.":                                                                                   
          Insert "A person employed as permitted under this                                                                 
     subsection shall  be supervised in person  by a manager                                                                
     or supervisor  of the business  who is 21 years  of age                                                                
     or  older and  who has  been charged  with the  task of                                                                
     ensuring that  the employee will not  consume alcoholic                                                                
     beverages."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:20:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER stated  that Amendment 2 to  HB 68 clearly                                                               
identifies   and  delineates   the  responsibilities   for  those                                                               
supervising employees under  the age of 21.  He  remarked that it                                                               
is important that  young people in the  hospitality industry have                                                               
guidance  from someone  who is  older,  and that  this person  is                                                               
clearly   identified   as    directly   responsible   for   their                                                               
supervision.   He  asserted that,  from the  owner's perspective,                                                               
having  clearly delineated  supervision  for  employees under  21                                                               
will  ease  concerns  for  insurance  providers  about  potential                                                               
increased liability.   He concluded that Amendment 2 to  HB 68 is                                                               
good for owners  of licensed premises, young  workers, and public                                                               
acceptance of HB 68.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:22:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL maintained her objection to Amendment 2 to HB 68.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:22:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   FIELDS  asked   for   the   definition  of   "adequate                                                               
supervision" under HB 68.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:23:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  BANKOWSKI,  Enforcement  Supervisor, Alcohol  and  Marijuana                                                               
Control  Office  (AMCO),  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  &                                                               
Economic  Development,  stated  that clarification  on  "adequate                                                               
supervision" would be helpful.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  [objected] to Amendment 2  to HB 68.   He voiced                                                               
concern over  ambiguity around spaces where  supervision would be                                                               
required.    He stated  he  would  not  want for  regulations  to                                                               
require an "older adult" supervise  employees between the ages of                                                               
18-21 years old, as Amendment 2 to HB 68 is written.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:24:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  stated  her intention  to  protect  the                                                               
licensee from  legal trouble.   She stated support  for Amendment                                                               
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:25:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK   found  the  answer  from   AMCO  to  be                                                               
inadequate.  She agreed with  Co-Chair Fields that Amendment 2 to                                                               
HB  68  could restrict  the  workforce  that  the bill  is  meant                                                               
include.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:26:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKOWSKI clarified that historically  someone who is allowed                                                               
to operate in this supervisory  position would be someone over 21                                                               
years  old.   He  specified  that  he is  not  trying  to take  a                                                               
position one  way or  another on what  the amendment  should look                                                               
like or how it should be written.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:26:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  stated that  a supervisor present  on the                                                               
premises  of  the  restaurant  where an  18-  to  21-year-old  is                                                               
serving would likely count as adequate supervision.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKOWSKI answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:27:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  stated  that   he  agreed  with  Representative                                                               
Coulombe  in   protecting  the   licensee  from   legal  trouble,                                                               
regarding Amendment 2.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:27:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  stated  that  the  premise  can  be  far                                                               
distant from  one end to  the other end.   He offered  his belief                                                               
that the  way HB  68 is currently  written would  invite unwanted                                                               
legal deliberation  over the  meaning of  "adequate supervision".                                                               
He offered  his belief that  it's important that HB  68 clarifies                                                               
the degree  of supervision.  He  welcomed [conceptual] amendments                                                               
to Amendment 2.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:28:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  Coulombe, Nelson,                                                               
and Saddler voted in favor of  the motion to adopt Amendment 2 to                                                               
HB 68.   Representatives Carrick,  Burke, Hall, and  Fields voted                                                               
against  it.   Therefore,  Amendment  2 to  HB  68  failed to  be                                                               
adopted by a vote of 3-4.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:29:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CARRICK  stated   that   she  appreciated   both                                                               
amendments in  intent.  She noted  that even with the  passage of                                                               
HB  68, Alaska  would  still be  rather  restrictive compared  to                                                               
other states.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:30:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  stated  his  hope that  AMCO  would  work  with                                                               
stakeholders  in  providing  a   clear  definition  of  "adequate                                                               
supervision".                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  stated that, although he  did not support                                                               
the provisions  for cancer warnings, he  supported the underlying                                                               
element  of HB  68, that  is,  allowing younger  people into  the                                                               
workforce.   He offered his  belief that the bill  is unbalanced,                                                               
but that he might support it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:30:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HALL  moved to  report  HB  68  out of  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being  no objection, HB  68 was  reported out of  the House                                                               
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS handed the gavel to Co-Chair Hall.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:31:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:31 p.m. to 4:34 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          HB  49-TOBACCO/NICOTINE/E-CIG AGE; E-CIG TAX                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:35:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  49,  "An Act  relating  to tobacco,  tobacco                                                               
products,  electronic smoking  products,  nicotine, and  products                                                               
containing  nicotine;  raising  the   minimum  age  to  purchase,                                                               
exchange, or  possess tobacco, a product  containing nicotine, or                                                               
an  electronic  smoking  product;  relating to  the  tobacco  use                                                               
education  and  cessation  fund;  relating  to  the  taxation  of                                                               
electronic  smoking products  and vapor  products; and  providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:36:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SARA  HANNAN, Alaska  State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented HB  49.   She noted  that there  are two  key                                                               
policies in HB  49:  raising the minimum age  to purchase from 19                                                               
to 21 to  align state law with federal, and  to establish a sales                                                               
tax for  electronic smoking products  (ESPs), otherwise  known as                                                               
"vapes," or  "vape products."   In December of 2019,  the Federal                                                               
Government changed  the age to  buy, possess, or  consume tobacco                                                               
products from 19 to 21.   Representative Hannan noted that Alaska                                                               
is not in compliance with  the federal government.  Under tobacco                                                               
products, vapes  are not  taxed by  the State  of Alaska.   Under                                                               
Alaska statutes on tobacco, taxation  is delineated by type.  She                                                               
said  ESPs   could  fall  under   the  category   "other  tobacco                                                               
products"; however, the tobacco  industry has successfully argued                                                               
against  taxation  due to  lack  of  identification of  ESPs,  or                                                               
vapes,  in  statute.    She  stated that  Alaska  has  been  very                                                               
successful in  decreasing the rate  of youth  combustible tobacco                                                               
smoking.   This  approach  has been  accomplished  with a  three-                                                               
pronged    approach:       a   tobacco    tax   on    traditional                                                               
cigarettes/tobacco products, the creation  of a statewide tobacco                                                               
control  and  educational  program,  and the  creation  of  youth                                                               
cessation  programs.   Representative Hannan  offered her  belief                                                               
that  vape  products are  targeted  at  youth populations.    She                                                               
commented that there  has been a "huge increase"  in young people                                                               
consuming nicotine via introduction  through ESPs.  She concluded                                                               
that  vapes are  not regulated  in the  same way  that cigarettes                                                               
are; therefore, there is a lot of variability in the products.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:41:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HUNTER MEACHUM,  Staff, Representative Sara Hannan,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, as  staff to  Representative Hannan,  prime sponsor,                                                               
gave  an  introductory  presentation  on  HB  49,  and  read  the                                                               
sectional analysis.   She used  a PowerPoint [hard  copy included                                                               
in  the committee  file],  titled "House  Bill  49:   Restricting                                                               
Youth  Access To  Tobacco  and  E-Cigarettes," with  accompanying                                                               
images.    She  stated  that,  according  to  the  Department  of                                                               
Health's (DOH's) Tobacco Prevention  and Control program, tobacco                                                               
use  is the  leading preventable  cause of  death and  disease in                                                               
Alaska.   Over  100,000 adults  in Alaska  are at  risk for  poor                                                               
health outcomes due to tobacco  products.  Annually, an estimated                                                               
600  deaths in  Alaska  are  attributed to  smoking  alone.   She                                                               
stated   that  nicotine   addiction  almost   always  begins   in                                                               
adolescence; therefore, it is the intent of HB 49 to protect at-                                                                
risk  youth in  Alaska.   She noted  that e-cigarettes/ESPs/vapes                                                               
emerged in the  mid-2000s.  Since 1994, there has  been a decline                                                               
in traditional  tobacco use  from 37 percent  to 8  percent among                                                               
high school  students.   The decline  of traditional  tobacco use                                                               
has  occurred in  concurrence with  the explosion  of e-cigarette                                                               
use.   From 2015-2021, there  was an  increase in vaping  from 18                                                               
percent to 26 percent in high school students.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEACHUM explained  that most  e-cigarettes  consist of  four                                                               
different components:  a  cartridge/reservoir, a heating element,                                                               
a power source,  and a mouthpiece.  She noted  that ESPs can have                                                               
a variety  of names,  including e-cigarettes,  e-cigars, e-pipes,                                                               
e-hookahs,  and vape  pens.   She stated  a battery  is typically                                                               
used  to heat  up  liquid containing  nicotine  and other  flavor                                                               
additives,  including  butterscotch,   bubblegum,  cotton  candy,                                                               
apple  cinnamon, which  is  then  inhaled into  the  lungs.   She                                                               
stated  that  vapes  can  be  designed  to  look  like  discreet,                                                               
everyday   items,  such   as  figurine   toys,  sharpies,   pens,                                                               
highlighters,  thumb  drives,  and   watches.    She  noted  that                                                               
advertisements  marketing   vapes  saturate  social   media,  and                                                               
companies  showcase  the  "cool  factor" of  vapes  by  employing                                                               
influencers  to increase  the sex  appeal and  installing popular                                                               
children's games, like Pacman, in  ESPs.  Ms. Meachum stated that                                                               
the  e-cigarette  market is  unregulated,  and  HB 49  would  ban                                                               
marketing  to children.   Many  brands have  campaigns on  social                                                               
media to  associate vaping with having  fun, relaxation, freedom,                                                               
and defiance.  Additionally, vape  competitions on platforms such                                                               
as  YouTube are  popular.   She  noted that  children are  vaping                                                               
during school  bus rides, in  bathrooms, locker  rooms, hallways,                                                               
and  classrooms  in  schools.   There  are  tutorials  on  online                                                               
platforms,  such as  YouTube, instructing  students how  to avoid                                                               
detection devices  that have been  purchased to  prevent students                                                               
from  vaping in  school.   She stated  that e-cigarettes  are not                                                               
safe and can have lasting  health consequences for the developing                                                               
brain  and   cardiovascular  system.    She   concluded  that  e-                                                               
cigarettes are not a [healthier] replacement for cigarettes.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:48:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 4:48 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:49:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEACHUM  continued  to  the  sectional  analysis  of  HB  49                                                               
[included  in committee  file], which  read as  follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 1: AS 11.76.100(a),  relating to tobacco sales and                                                                  
     exchanges,  makes it  a violation  to  sell to  persons                                                                    
     under age 21; however, the  person making the sale at a                                                                    
     licensed location may be age 19 or older.                                                                                  
     Sec.  2: AS  11.76.100(b), relating  to supervision  of                                                                  
     tobacco  product  vending  machines (TVM),  amends  the                                                                    
     exemption for  TVMs situated in  a private  break room,                                                                    
     provided  there   is  signage  posted   indicating  the                                                                    
     minimum  age  to possess  tobacco  products  is age  21                                                                    
     (from 19).                                                                                                                 
     Sec.  3: AS  11.76.105, (a)  relating to  possession of                                                                  
     tobacco,   electronic  smoking   products  (ESPs),   or                                                                    
     products  containing nicotine,  raises the  minimum age                                                                    
     to  possess from  19 to  21 years  of age;  removes the                                                                    
     exemption for incarcerated minors;                                                                                         
     (b)  makes  allowable   exemptions  as  an  affirmative                                                                    
     defense  for possession  under  certain conditions;  to                                                                    
     include if  the product is FDA-approved,  is prescribed                                                                    
     by a  health care professional,  and given by  a parent                                                                    
     or legal guardian.                                                                                                         
     (c) makes possession of  tobacco, an electronic smoking                                                                    
     product, or  a product containing nicotine  by a person                                                                    
     under 21 years of age  a violation punishable by a fine                                                                    
     not to  exceed $300, or  in lieu  of paying a  fine the                                                                    
     court  may direct  a defendant  to take  an educational                                                                    
     class on the harms of smoking.                                                                                             
     Sec. 4:  AS 11.76.105 (d)  directs the court  system to                                                                
     establish a bail schedule  for the violation referenced                                                                    
     in  Section  3 above.  Bail  amounts  may be  forfeited                                                                    
     without a court appearance for  a violation by a person                                                                    
     19 or 20 years of age.                                                                                                     
     (e)  A mandatory  court  appearance  is maintained  for                                                                    
     minors under age 18.                                                                                                       
     (f) provides an exemption  for persons aged 19-20, when                                                                    
     selling  tobacco, nicotine  products,  or  ESPs, to  be                                                                    
     exempted  from the  prohibition of  underage possession                                                                    
     of those products.                                                                                                         
     Sec. 5:  AS 11.76.106(b),  relating to the  'behind the                                                                  
     counter'   control   provisions  of   selling   tobacco                                                                    
     products, allowing exemptions  for wholesalers, tobacco                                                                    
     shops or online  ESP sales, raising the  minimum age to                                                                    
     sell from 19 to 21 years of age.                                                                                           
     Sec.  6: AS  11.76.109(a), relating  to other  products                                                                  
     containing   nicotine  (OTP),   including  chew,   gum,                                                                    
     patches, or E-cigarette products,  makes it a violation                                                                    
     to sell,  give, or  exchange to  persons under  age 21;                                                                    
     however,  the  person making  the  sale  at a  licensed                                                                    
     location may be age 19 or older.                                                                                           
     Sec.  7: AS  11.76.109(b),  relating  to exemptions  to                                                                  
     selling,  giving,  or  exchanging  products  containing                                                                    
     nicotine  to  persons  under  the age  of  21,  if  the                                                                    
     product is FDA-approved, is prescribed  by a doctor, or                                                                    
     given by a parent or legal guardian.                                                                                       
     Sec. 8:  AS 11.76.109(d),  relating to  the requirement                                                                  
     for  vendors  to  supervise the  operation  of  ESP  or                                                                    
     nicotine  product vending  machines  (EVM), amends  the                                                                    
     exemption for  EVMs situated in  a private  break room,                                                                    
     provided  there   is  signage  posted   indicating  the                                                                    
     minimum age to possess tobacco products is age 21.                                                                         
     Sec. 9:  AS 11.76.109(g),  relating to the  penalty for                                                                  
     selling  or  gifting  ESP or  nicotine  products  to  a                                                                    
     person under  the age of  21 as a  violation punishable                                                                    
     by a fine of not less than $300.                                                                                           
     Sec.  10:   AS  11.81.900(b)   adds  a   definition  of                                                                  
     nicotine, to  include a  chemical or  chemical compound                                                                    
     intended  to simulate  the  effect  of the  plant-based                                                                    
     chemical  derived  from  the  tobacco  plant.  This  is                                                                    
     intended   to  include   the  emergence   of  synthetic                                                                    
     nicotine in  the market as  a means of evading  tax and                                                                    
     sales penalties.                                                                                                           
     Sec. 11: AS 29.35.085(c)  conforming change relating to                                                                  
     community work  provisions as punishment for  a minor's                                                                    
     conviction of a violation of a curfew ordinance.                                                                           
     Sec.  12:  AS  37.05.580(a)   amends  the  Tobacco  Use                                                                  
     Education  and  Cessation Fund  to  be  moved from  the                                                                    
     general fund into the state treasury.                                                                                      
     Sec.  13:   AS  43.50.070(a),  relating   to  licensing                                                                  
     requirements  for buying  or selling  tobacco or  other                                                                    
     products containing nicotine,  adds legal authority for                                                                    
     the Dept. of  Revenue to suspend, revoke  a license for                                                                    
     ESP sales.                                                                                                                 
     Sec.  14:   AS  43.50.105(b),  relating   to  wholesale                                                                  
     cigarette  sales and  licensees, to  restrict licensees                                                                    
     from  selling  or   transporting  tobacco  products  to                                                                    
     persons that  are at least  21 (from 19) years  of age,                                                                    
     and  to  implement  an age  verification  process  when                                                                    
     conducting transactions.                                                                                                   
     Sec. 15:  AS 43.50.105(c),  relating to  common carrier                                                                  
     transportation of  cigarettes, to  verify the  age (21)                                                                    
     of the recipient before delivery.                                                                                          
     Sec. 16:  AS 43.50.150(c), relating to  the state being                                                                  
     in  partnership with  municipalities in  taxing tobacco                                                                    
     products,  is amended  to include  those municipalities                                                                    
     taxing ESPs, to share  data and jointly audit licensees                                                                    
     selling those products.                                                                                                    
     Sec. 17:  AS 43.50.190(d), relating to  the Tobacco Use                                                                  
     Education and  Cessation Fund, amends the  structure of                                                                    
     the fund  reflecting three  revenue sources  going into                                                                    
     the fund: (1) 20% 1/26/25; HB 49, version A                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     of  the   annual  payment  under  the   Tobacco  Master                                                                    
     Settlement Agreement;  (2) 8.9% of the  general portion                                                                    
     of the state  cigarette tax; and (3)  the proceeds from                                                                    
     the  new  tax  on electronic  smoking  products  (ESPs)                                                                    
     established in section 17 of the bill.                                                                                     
     Sec.  18:  AS  43.50.325  adds  a  restriction  on  the                                                                  
     transportation  of   OTP  into  the   state,  requiring                                                                    
     licensing to do so, and  makes clear provisions for age                                                                    
     verification  for delivery  of and  labelling for  such                                                                    
     products. This  is a conforming  amendment, replicating                                                                    
     AS 43.50.105, which applies only to cigarettes.                                                                            
     Sec.  19: AS  43.50  is amended  by  adding Article  8,                                                                  
     relating  to   ESP  Sales,  Shipping,   Licensing,  and                                                                    
     Taxation                                                                                                                   
     AS 43.50.850(a) levies  a 25 percent tax  on the retail                                                                  
     sales price  of closed-system  ESPs and  vapor products                                                                    
     in the state; and                                                                                                          
     (b) sets a threshold  of 200 transactions annually, for                                                                    
     online vendors  of ESP, to  be licensed with  the state                                                                    
     and begin remitting tax returns and payments.                                                                              
     AS 43.50.855  provides for exemptions  from the  tax to                                                                  
     include closed  ESPs or vapor  sold on  military bases,                                                                    
     approved by the FDA as  a tobacco cessation product, or                                                                    
     sold  as  a  marijuana  or hemp  product  that  do  not                                                                    
     contain nicotine.                                                                                                          
     AS 43.50.860  requires retailers to be  licensed in the                                                                  
     state  to  sell  ESPs, details  an  annual  application                                                                    
     renewal  process  and   fee,  license  transferability,                                                                    
     suspension  and   revocation,  product   packaging  and                                                                    
     labelling requirements,  and restrictions  on marketing                                                                    
     flavored products to youths.                                                                                               
     AS 43.50.865  requires ESP licensees to  file a monthly                                                                  
     tax  return to  the Dept.  of Revenue  (DOR), including                                                                    
     information  on what  was sold,  sales prices,  and tax                                                                    
     imposed.                                                                                                                   
     AS  43.50.870, requires  record  keeping for  licensees                                                                  
     selling   ESPs,  including   information  on   purchase                                                                    
     prices, product  sources, and volume of  purchase. This                                                                    
     information is to be kept on  file for 3 years and must                                                                    
     be available for DOR upon request.                                                                                         
     AS  43.50.875 directs  taxes collected  on  ESPs to  be                                                                  
     deposited into the Tobacco  Use Education and Cessation                                                                    
     Fund, which  may be appropriated by  the legislature to                                                                    
     provide for  tobacco use prevention  or for  efforts to                                                                    
     prevent  or  detect  the  use of  tobacco  or  ESPs  in                                                                    
     schools.                                                                                                                   
     AS   43.50.880  is   a  conforming   amendment,  adding                                                                  
     restrictions to shipping or  transporting ESPs into the                                                                    
     state without a license,  consistent with same statutes                                                                    
     relating  to   shipping  or  transporting   tobacco  or                                                                    
     cigarettes.                                                                                                                
     AS 43.50.885 places restrictions  on ESP vapor products                                                                  
     sold  to  consumers in  the  state  to include:  (1)  a                                                                    
     nicotine  concentration of  no more  than 50mg/ml;  (2)                                                                    
     protection   from  breakage   and   leakage;  (3)   not                                                                    
     containing  other  additives   or  stimulants  such  as                                                                    
     caffeine,  taurine, or  vitamin E  acetate; (4)  child-                                                                    
     and tamper-proof  packaging; and (5) clear  labeling to                                                                    
     inform  customers  of   all  ingredients  and  nicotine                                                                    
     content.                                                                                                                   
     AS 43.50.900  provides a  definition for  "sales price"                                                                  
     for tax purposes.                                                                                                          
     AS   43.50.990   provides   definitions   for   "closed                                                                  
     electronic   smoking   product,"  "electronic   smoking                                                                    
     product," "vapor product,"  "nicotine," and "retailer."                                                                    
     Hardware   components   such  as   batteries,   battery                                                                    
     chargers,   heating   elements  and   mouthpieces   are                                                                    
     excluded  from  the  definition   of  an  ESP  for  tax                                                                    
     purposes, when sold separately or  not part of a closed                                                                    
     ESP.                                                                                                                       
     Sec. 20: AS 43.70.075(f),  relating to business license                                                                  
     endorsements for  selling tobacco products,  amends the                                                                    
     existing  requirement  for  signage  to  be  posted  on                                                                    
     vendor  premises,  stating  it being  illegal  to  sell                                                                    
     tobacco or  ESPs to  minors under the  age of  21 (from                                                                    
     19).                                                                                                                       
     Sec. 21:  AS 43.70.075(m), relating to  the process for                                                                  
     suspending   business  licensees   holding  a   tobacco                                                                    
     endorsement,  amends  existing   statute  referring  to                                                                    
     tobacco or ESPs  being sold to minors under  the age of                                                                    
     21 (from 19).                                                                                                              
     Sec.  22: AS  43.70.075(t), relating  to penalties  for                                                                  
     licensees   violating   the  T21   provisions,   amends                                                                    
     existing  statute  for  lessening the  penalties  if  a                                                                    
     license  holder has  a written  tobacco  or ESPs  sales                                                                    
     policy  to include  employees  not  selling tobacco  or                                                                    
     ESPs to minors under the age of 21 (from 19).                                                                              
     Sec. 23:  AS 43.70.075(w),  relating to the  appeal and                                                                  
     administrative process of  license suspension, conforms                                                                    
     existing law regarding tobacco and  ESP sales, to apply                                                                    
     to sales to minors under the age of 21 (from 19).                                                                          
     Sec.   24:  AS   45.50.471(b),  relating   to  consumer                                                                  
     protection and unlawful business  practices, adds a new                                                                    
     subsection making  it unlawful  to market  or advertise                                                                    
     ESPs, or  components of ESPs  to persons under  the age                                                                    
     of 21 in the state.                                                                                                        
     Sec. 25: AS 45.50.471(b),  relating to the marketing an                                                                  
     ESP in a  manner likely to promote its use  by a person                                                                    
     under 21.                                                                                                                  
     Sec.  26: AS  47.12.030(b),  relating  to the  juvenile                                                                  
     justice  system,  and   minors  accused  of  possessing                                                                    
     tobacco, conforms  existing law to apply  to possession                                                                    
     by minors under the age of 21 (from 19).                                                                                   
     Sec. 27:  AS 11.76.100(e)  is repealed. The  statute is                                                                  
     an exemption  for sales, and possession  of cigarettes,                                                                    
     OTP and ESPs for incarcerated minors.                                                                                      
     Sec. 28:  Relates to applicability,  conforming changes                                                                  
     in the bill.                                                                                                               
     Sec.  29: Sections  13, 16,  19, and  25 are  effective                                                                  
     January 1, 2027.                                                                                                           
     Sec. 30:  All other  sections are effective  January 1,                                                                  
     2026.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:00:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL  invited questions  from committee members  for the                                                               
bill sponsor or invited testifiers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:01:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON  stated there  is a provision  in HB  49 on                                                               
excluding tax on military installations.   He asked whether there                                                               
would also be an age exemption for military individuals.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:02:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HANNAN answered  that the  military is  where the                                                               
Tobacco  21  (T21)  provisions began.    Currently,  on  military                                                               
bases,  if a  commissary sells  tobacco,  a consumer  must be  21                                                               
years old  to purchase  said product;  however, a  consumer could                                                               
travel outside  of the military  base and purchase tobacco  at 19                                                               
years old.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:02:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HALL asked  how HB  49 might  help tobacco  control and                                                               
enforcement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:03:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE DARNELL,  Chief Investigator, Division of  Behavioral Health,                                                               
Department  of   Health,  as   an  invited   testifier,  answered                                                               
questions  during the  hearing on  HB 49.   He  stated there  are                                                               
three  age-restricted products  in Alaska:   alcohol,  marijuana,                                                               
and  tobacco.    He  stated  that  bringing  all  age  restricted                                                               
products to  21 would  make it  easier on  retailers.   He stated                                                               
that  identification   (ID)  checks  would  be   easier,  as  all                                                               
individuals over  the age of  21 in Alaska are  issued horizontal                                                               
ID, and all individuals under the  age of 21 in Alaska are issued                                                               
vertical ID.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:04:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK asked  what the  recently updated  Alaska                                                               
Youth Risk  Behavior Survey reported  about electronic  vapor use                                                               
among youth today.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:05:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 5:05 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:06:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE STEFFENS,  Deputy Program  Manager, Tobacco  Prevention and                                                               
Control Program,  Department of Health, as  an invited testifier,                                                               
answered questions  during the hearing  on HB 49.   She responded                                                               
that  the   Tobacco  Prevention  and  Control   Program  recently                                                               
collected  data  in  2023  for the  Alaska  Youth  Risk  Behavior                                                               
Survey.   She  reported that  17  percent of  Alaska high  school                                                               
students used  e-cigarettes in 2023.   Additionally, she reported                                                               
that this is a decrease from  2019, but that it is not considered                                                               
significant  when considering  long-term  data.   She  emphasized                                                               
that  one in  six children  in  Alaska uses  e-cigarettes and  23                                                               
percent  of high  school  students  in Alaska  use  some form  of                                                               
tobacco product.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:07:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  asked where the tax  revenue generated by                                                               
HB 49 would go.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:07:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HANNAN responded  that  the entirety  of the  tax                                                               
revenue  generated under  HB 49  would be  put directly  into the                                                               
tobacco  cessation   fund.    She  explained   that  the  tobacco                                                               
cessation fund  suffered the "reverse-sweep" problem.   She noted                                                               
that the fund  was swept and is  currently substantially drained.                                                               
She stated  the operating  funds that  typically roll  over every                                                               
year are  nonexistent.  She stated  that the goal of  HB 49 would                                                               
be to  add revenue from  vape taxes into the  fund in such  a way                                                               
that  the  funds  are  not  subject  to  the  reverse-sweep  vote                                                               
restrictions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:08:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HALL announced that HB 49 was held over.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:08:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Labor and  Commerce Standing Committee  meeting was  adjourned at                                                               
5:08 p.m.