Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

04/16/2024 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:02:15 AM Start
08:02:55 AM HB30
08:22:09 AM Adjourn
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+= HB 30 OBSERVE DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME ALL YEAR TELECONFERENCED
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          HB  30-OBSERVE DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME ALL YEAR                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:02:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 30, "An Act relating to  daylight saving time;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:03:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAN ORTIZ,  Alaska  State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor,  provided  a summary  of  HB  30.   He  paraphrased  the                                                               
sponsor statement [included in the  committee packet], which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill  30 establishes  Daylight Saving  Time (DST)                                                                    
     as  the official  time for  the State  of Alaska  year-                                                                    
     round, subject to the authorization of federal law.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DST is observed between the  second Sunday of March and                                                                    
     the  first   Sunday  of  November.  Adoption   of  this                                                                    
     legislation is  the first step. To  fully implement the                                                                    
     change to  full-time DST, action  by the  United States                                                                    
     Congress  is  required.  Congress will  need  to  amend                                                                    
     federal law  to allow states to  observe DST throughout                                                                    
     the calendar year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Nationally, the  initiative to change to  full-time DST                                                                    
     is gaining traction. As of March 2022, 18 states have                                                                      
     enacted DST  legislation. In 2022 alone,  28 states are                                                                    
     considering  DST   legislation.  On  the   west  coast,                                                                    
     California   voters  authorized   the  change   pending                                                                    
     legislation  and in  2019, both  Washington and  Oregon                                                                    
     passed  legislation  similar   to  HB30.  Our  Canadian                                                                    
     neighbors have  also taken steps  to move  to full-time                                                                    
     DST. British  Columbia passed legislation  to implement                                                                    
     full-time DST  contingent on the  U.S. west  coast also                                                                    
     implementing it. Yukon began  full-time DST on March 8,                                                                    
     2020.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Because of our close economic and geographic ties to                                                                      
     the U.S. and Canadian west coasts, Alaska can                                                                              
     avoid being 'left in the dark' by passing HB30.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:06:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  inquired about  the changes  in federal                                                               
law that would be required.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ  said  attempts  at passing  this  type  of                                                               
legislation  is  always  contingent   on  congress  giving  final                                                               
approval.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:07:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCORMICK  questioned  the original  purpose  of  Daylight                                                               
Saving Time (DST).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ  shared his  understanding that  because the                                                               
workforce was  largely agricultural, DST  was an attempt  to help                                                               
farmers by  lengthening the  time spent  in the  field.   He said                                                               
there may have been military implications as well.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCORMICK said  it's his  understanding that  it was  less                                                               
about agriculture and  more about the rationing  of resources for                                                               
World War II.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:09:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE BAKER  asked why, in  reference to the  higher rate                                                               
of robberies and car crashes, people are "bad" on standard time.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ said studies show  that more daylight in the                                                               
evenings is less  likely to attract burglars  because it's harder                                                               
to be discreet.  Theoretically, he  said, it would limit the time                                                               
when bad things can happen.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:11:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCCABE   shared   his  understanding   that   in                                                               
Anchorage, [DST] would delay sunrise until 11:15 a.m.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ answered  yes.   He acknowledged  that this                                                               
change would  not be as  conducive to Western Alaska  where there                                                               
is already a late sunrise in the winter.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  recalled when Alaska had  five time zones.                                                               
He asked whether the bill would  put Alaska in line with the rest                                                               
of the U.S.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ reiterated  that the  bill if  passed would                                                               
still  require congressional  approval.   He  explained that  the                                                               
bill is  in response to  the broad  support for not  changing the                                                               
clocks,  and it  seems that  most states  on the  West Coast  are                                                               
moving  in  the  direction  of  maintaining DST.    He  said  one                                                               
particular benefit of  remaining on DST all year long  is to have                                                               
one extra  hour of  light in the  evening, which  is advantageous                                                               
for the tourism industry.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:15:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY referred to the  New York Stock Exchange and                                                               
asked whether New York is making the switch.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ did not know  the answer.  He explained that                                                               
if this change  were made in Alaska, there would  be a three-hour                                                               
time difference in New York for  part of the year and a four-hour                                                               
difference for the other part.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK  reflected on living  in Hawaii where there  is a                                                               
similar time difference for part of the year.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:18:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  whether  federal  action  could                                                               
solve this for everyone.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ said  the federal  government may  have the                                                               
power but  there's no desire to  make a unilateral decision.   He                                                               
recalled that the U.S. Senate took  action in support of DST last                                                               
year  to authorize  those  states  that wanted  to  stay on  DST;                                                               
however, it was  never enacted because the U.S.  House never took                                                               
up the issue.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK sought closing comments from the bill sponsor.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ   stated  that  moving  the   bill  out  of                                                               
committee would be the first step on  a long road.  He shared his                                                               
belief that there  is strong public interest in  not changing the                                                               
clocks from spring  to fall; however, there is still  a debate on                                                               
DST  versus Standard  Time.   He reiterated  that the  bill would                                                               
support the actions that other West Coast states are taking.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:21:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced that HB 30 would be held over.                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB030 Fiscal Note 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Letters of Opposition #2 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Letters of Opposition #1 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Letters of Support 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Research - 1. Activity by IJBNPA 2014 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Research - 2. Crime by RES 2015 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Research - 3. Economy by JPM 2016 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Research - 4. Vehicle Crashes by AJPH 1995 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Research - 5. Electricity by US DOE 2008 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Research Index 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Sectional Analysis ver A 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Sponsor Statement ver A 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Version A 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30
HB030 Written Testimony 4.11.24.pdf HCRA 4/16/2024 8:00:00 AM
HB 30