Legislature(2025 - 2026)ADAMS 519

04/07/2025 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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HOUSE BILL NO. 27                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to medical care for major                                                                                 
     emergencies."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:21:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GENEVIEVE MINA,  SPONSOR, introduced the bill                                                                    
by reading from prepared remarks:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you for hearing HB 27, Major Medical Emergencies                                                                     
     The goal of HB 27 is to modernize Alaska's system for                                                                      
     Emergency Medical  Services (EMS) by  including strokes                                                                    
     and heart attacks.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Why bring the bill forward?                                                                                                
     I introduced this in the last legislature after convos                                                                     
     with physicians and EMS providers who identified a gap                                                                     
     in Alaska's EMS system.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Background                                                                                                                 
     In the  1960s, with high  rates of injuries  and deaths                                                                    
     from   car  accidents,   public   health  leaders   and                                                                    
     policymakers  developed America's  EMS system  to focus                                                                    
     on pre-hospital care.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     A strong EMS  system, rather than just the  ER care, is                                                                    
     important  for  preventing  lives through  the  "Golden                                                                    
     Hour," a crucial amount of  time to ensure that someone                                                                    
     after a  traumatic injury could avoid  death by getting                                                                    
     to the "right person, to  the right place, at the right                                                                    
     time.  As part of this  movement, the state created the                                                                    
     Alaska  Office of  EMS. The  office developed  Alaska's                                                                    
     trauma  system  of  care in  the  90s  by  coordinating                                                                    
     public and  private agencies, funding  agencies through                                                                    
     pass-through  grants,   and  developing   training  and                                                                    
     protocols.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     What is a system of care?                                                                                                  
     It  is creating  a network  for phases  of stroke  care                                                                    
     between  prehospital  care,   transport,  treatment  to                                                                    
     home, and  supporting hospitals and clinics.  They also                                                                    
     designate  certified  trauma   centers,  ensuring  that                                                                    
     hospitals  meet   state  and  national   standards  for                                                                    
     different levels  of trauma.  Modern EMS and  the focus                                                                    
     on the "golden hour" has evolved beyond trauma.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Issue:  We  have no  system  of  care for  other  time-                                                                    
     sensitive,  medical  emergencies, specifically  strokes                                                                    
     and heart attacks.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     In 2022, 744  Alaskans died from trauma,  217 died from                                                                    
     strokes,  and  510  died  from  cardiovascular  disease                                                                    
     (such as a heart  attack). Alaska has unique challenges                                                                    
     in  meeting  "Golden  Hour" due  to  rural  Alaska  and                                                                    
     transportation    issues,   and    standardizing   best                                                                    
     practices   between   clinics,   hospitals,   and   EMS                                                                    
     providers. There  are now  best practices  and improved                                                                    
     technology for  STEMIs and strokes,  as well  as stroke                                                                    
     centers and STEMI centers -  but no one is coordinating                                                                    
     Alaska's   hospitals,   provider   organizations,   and                                                                    
     communities on improving their care.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     What does HB 27 do?                                                                                                        
     HB 27  is very straightforward:  it expands  the Office                                                                    
     of EMS'  powers to replicate Alaska's  trauma system of                                                                    
     care, allowing  the office to  create a system  of care                                                                    
     for  strokes and  for heart  attacks. Additionally,  it                                                                    
     allows EMS to replicate  trauma designation process for                                                                    
     strokes and  STEMIs. At  least 41  states have  (or are                                                                    
     finalizing)  regional   or  statewide   protocols  that                                                                    
     ensure patients experiencing a  critical stroke such as                                                                    
     ELVO  are  transported  directly   to  Level  1  stroke                                                                    
     centers.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Impacts:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The improvements  in the trauma system  of care reduced                                                                    
     transfer time  to meet the  "Golden Hour."  It improved                                                                    
     outcomes   where   every   single  minute   meant   the                                                                    
     difference  between walking  out  of  the hospital  the                                                                    
     next day or  requiring 24 hour 7 day a  week 24/7 care.                                                                    
     Other   improvements  on   outcomes  focused   on  data                                                                    
     collection   and  improving   technology  to   transmit                                                                    
     screenings  and other  technology  between clinics  and                                                                    
     hospital. In  addition, it will result  in cost savings                                                                    
     for  the state  by  ensuring people  receive the  right                                                                    
     care  at the  right  time and  preventing more  drastic                                                                    
     health outcomes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     In Closing we  cannot change when a  patient arrives to                                                                    
     a  hospital.  But  we  can   improve  the  workflow  to                                                                    
     diagnose a  case and  make the  decision-making process                                                                    
     more efficient. b.  HB 27  updates Alaska's  EMS system                                                                    
     and  ensures   that  our  state  reflects   modern  EMS                                                                    
     standards  so that  Alaskans experiencing  a stroke  or                                                                    
     heart attack  get to  the "right  person, to  the right                                                                    
     place, at the right time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:26:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  wanted the committee  to hear  from invited                                                                    
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN WEBB, SELF, ANCHORAGE, shared  that he was a paramedic                                                                    
for  over 47  years. He  related that  minutes mattered  for                                                                    
trauma  and   medical  emergencies  and   Emergency  Medical                                                                    
Services  (EMS)  mut  quickly   respond  and  determine  the                                                                    
correct facility  to transport  the patient. He  pointed out                                                                    
that   a   statewide   system  was   lacking   for   medical                                                                    
emergencies.  There were  no data  registries, few  facility                                                                    
designations, nor standardized  protocols. The bill provided                                                                    
the  structure necessary  for better  prevention, decisions,                                                                    
and  outcomes.  Since the  passage  of  HB-168 [Trauma  Care                                                                    
Centers/Fund, Chapter 98 SLA 10,  06/21/2010] in 2010, which                                                                    
established trauma  centers and  a trauma care  fund, Alaska                                                                    
EMS  had been  better  equipped to  make critical  transport                                                                    
decisions. The results enhanced  our training and skills and                                                                    
enabled  us   to  deliver  trauma   patients  to   the  most                                                                    
appropriate  facility  and   saved  lives.  The  legislation                                                                    
addressed a critical  gap in the treatment  of major medical                                                                    
emergencies,  particularly  heart  attacks and  strokes,  by                                                                    
offering  a system  of  registry,  standards, and  voluntary                                                                    
facility   registration.   In  addition,   the   legislation                                                                    
identified resource  gaps, improved transport  planning, and                                                                    
opened  doors   for  planning  partnerships   improving  the                                                                    
delivery of care by EMS.  The voluntary facility designation                                                                    
not  only   benefitted  hospitals  it  resulted   in  better                                                                    
outcomes  and  lowers  death  rates  and  disabilities.  The                                                                    
bill's costs  were minimal compared  to the long  term costs                                                                    
of   disability  and   preventable  deaths,   which  created                                                                    
significant saving "downstream."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:29:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUCY  HE,  NEUROSURGEON,   PROVIDENCE  AND  ALASKA  REGIONAL                                                                    
HOSPITALS, ANCHORAGE,  offered her testimony.  She explained                                                                    
that Alaska was one of  the few remaining states lacking any                                                                    
funding for time sensitive emergencies.  The success of such                                                                    
programs   elsewhere  in   the  United   States  (US)   with                                                                    
limitations  such  as  that  existed   in  Alaska  had  been                                                                    
demonstrated.  The incidence  of  stroke in  Alaska was  the                                                                    
same as in  the Southeastern US but Alaska  had very limited                                                                    
resources. The resources for  stroke recovery and prevention                                                                    
remained significantly  underfunded and the  main limitation                                                                    
was identifying  the patients  as early  as possible  in the                                                                    
field  and creating  a coordinated  and efficient  system of                                                                    
transfer.  She  continued  that without  guidance  from  the                                                                    
Department of  Health (DOH) and  the resources to  track the                                                                    
data the state could not  improve its response. She observed                                                                    
that  the Alaska  native population  was  prone to  aneurism                                                                    
ruptures. However, there was no  data regarding patient care                                                                    
remaining in  or leaving the  state in those  instances. The                                                                    
state's  most recent  report on  stroke care  in Alaska  was                                                                    
published in  2019 referencing 2016 data.  She reported that                                                                    
DOH acknowledged that there was a significant gap in data.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She  continued  that  DOH  along   with  the  Alaska  Stroke                                                                    
Coalition collaborated on  acquiring Coverdell Grants  [Paul                                                                    
Coverdell Forensic  Science Improvement Grants  Program (the                                                                    
Coverdell  program)]. The  grants  were  denied because  the                                                                    
state lacked  a formalized system for  tracking stroke care.                                                                    
The state  needed additional resources and  funding in order                                                                    
to evolve a program. She  emphasized the importance of rapid                                                                    
correct  diagnosis  and  intervention  due  to  insufficient                                                                    
recovery, outpatient,  and therapy resources. She  offered a                                                                    
statistic  that  by  2030  the  global  economic  impact  of                                                                    
strokes   would  reach   $1  trillion.   She  stressed   the                                                                    
importance of  treatment, prevention, and  decreasing stroke                                                                    
risk. She urged support for the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:33:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson thought  that  the bill  was a  good                                                                    
idea.  She encouraged  DOH to  look to  vacant positions  to                                                                    
reduce the  cost of the  bill versus adding a  position. She                                                                    
noted that the fiscal note added a range 20 position.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
GENE  WISEMAN, SECTION  CHIEF, RURAL  AND COMMUNITY  HEALTH,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF   PUBLIC   HEALTH,  ANCHORAGE,   asked   for                                                                    
Representative    Johnson    to   repeat    the    question.                                                                    
Representative Johnson obliged  and reiterated the question.                                                                    
Mr. Wiseman deferred the answer to a colleague in DOH.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mina  answered that  it was a  good question.                                                                    
She communicated  that in  discussions with  the department,                                                                    
she discovered  that there was  a gap in  statute concerning                                                                    
the state's system of care.  She determined that there was a                                                                    
need from  the state's  health professionals. She  wanted to                                                                    
help address filling the one position through a vacancy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:36:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  wanted a better understanding  how the                                                                    
bill would improve care in the  state. He noted that in many                                                                    
communities  there  were   limited  places  where  emergency                                                                    
victims could  go. In  those instances  where there  was one                                                                    
regional hospital,  the patient  would be evaluated  a flown                                                                    
out  to  another  facility if  necessary.  He  wondered  how                                                                    
adding a  position at the  state level would  accomplish the                                                                    
goal  of   the  bill  and  inquired   about  the  position's                                                                    
workload.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mina  responded  that  the  legislation  was                                                                    
about improving  the EMS system  overall and  especially for                                                                    
rural communities that would benefit  the most. She deferred                                                                    
further  answer to  Mr.  Webb who  had  worked closely  with                                                                    
Alaska's EMS system. She also  suggested that Dr. He address                                                                    
the specific  gaps in stroke care  and how a system  of care                                                                    
would  benefit  responders   and  providers.  Representative                                                                    
Bynum  repeated the  question. He  was trying  to understand                                                                    
how creating  the position would  create benefits  to remote                                                                    
communities  who   were  trained  at  the   local  level  on                                                                    
addressing  strokes  and  heart  attacks  that  he  believed                                                                    
received a "high focus" with  rural responders. In addition,                                                                    
was the  bill focused  on places  with large  populations in                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:41:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wiseman replied that the  position would replicate DOH's                                                                    
trauma  systems. He  elaborated that  under Rural  Community                                                                    
Health Systems  the office of  EMS and the trauma  unit were                                                                    
paired together. The Trauma systems  unit had two employees;                                                                    
one managed  the Trauma  Registry data  base. The  data base                                                                    
manager convened committees of hospital subject matter                                                                          
experts and  from the  EMS system  to build  the coordinated                                                                    
care approach. The hospitals  voluntarily entered their data                                                                    
into the registry  to create a statewide  overview and track                                                                    
patients and  outcomes better. The trauma  systems unit only                                                                    
had  two   employees  who  were   extremely  busy   and  one                                                                    
additional  employee  to  track  additional  data  would  be                                                                    
necessary.  Additionally,  coordinating the  committees  and                                                                    
site  visits  for  certification  was  time  consuming.  The                                                                    
objective was to  analyze the data for  care coordination at                                                                    
a systems  of care state  level approach. He  emphasized the                                                                    
amount of work necessary to produce a systemic change.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  referenced that  41 other  states had                                                                    
the same proposed coordinated approach.  She asked how other                                                                    
states  approached  implementing  the system.  She  wondered                                                                    
whether hospitals  had a coordinated  approach or if  it was                                                                    
truly  best accomplished  through the  state. Representative                                                                    
Mina deferred  to Dr.  He who had  experience in  setting up                                                                    
the coordinated approach.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. He responded that Hawaii was  the best example of an EMS                                                                    
statewide system  that utilized both via  a Hawaii Statewide                                                                    
Stroke  coalition   that  brought  together   most  hospital                                                                    
clinicians. The  state tracked  stroke data  in coordination                                                                    
with  the  stroke  coalition. She  described  why  both  was                                                                    
necessary. She indicated that as  a clinician, she and other                                                                    
clinicians  reviewed  cases  of transfers  which  helped  to                                                                    
determine the outcomes and what  worked best or did not work                                                                    
at one facility  or another and decided  who provided better                                                                    
interventions for  specific issues.  She relayed  an example                                                                    
from Hawaii of  coordinated state and hospital  data and how                                                                    
it  determined  the  best   interventions  to  help  shorten                                                                    
transport time to  the right facility. She  offered that the                                                                    
data  helped Hawaii  EMS in  recognizing how  long transport                                                                    
times were  and how  to shorten it.  She elucidated  that it                                                                    
was  outside  Alaska    hospital  purview  to  mandate  they                                                                    
examine  the efficiency  of patient  transport and  would be                                                                    
unable to  manifest changes unless statewide  protocols were                                                                    
in  place.  She  emphasized that  coordination  between  the                                                                    
state  and  hospitals  was essential.  She  shared  that  in                                                                    
states  with successful  EMS  systems they  had  both a  DOH                                                                    
tracking  system  and  the clinical  providers  that  worked                                                                    
together to  integrate what was  happening in the  field and                                                                    
identifying  the gaps.  She  discussed  issues with  sharing                                                                    
stroke   imaging   statewide   and   believed   that   state                                                                    
involvement could  help find a better  solution. The success                                                                    
in  improving stroke  care with  the  proposed paradigm  was                                                                    
dependent on  the state and  clinicians working  together to                                                                    
improve patient care and outcomes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:49:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  wanted to  understand the  "Golden Hour"                                                                    
concept better. He  understood that time was  of the essence                                                                    
for  stoke   victims  for  the  administration   of  reverse                                                                    
clotting  agents  for  a successful  recovery.  He  wondered                                                                    
whether part of the bill was  to try to get reverse clotting                                                                    
agents  to people  in the  field  in small  rural areas.  He                                                                    
asked whether  the bill only entailed  coordination or would                                                                    
there be a component for  training and providing new medical                                                                    
treatment opportunities in smaller hospitals.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mina  replied  that supplying  clot  busting                                                                    
drugs and  medical services was different  than coordination                                                                    
and  providing  training. She  deferred  the  answer to  Mr.                                                                    
Webb.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster noted that Mr. Webb was no longer online.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mina requested hearing from Mr. Wiseman.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Wiseman asked  for clarification  on the  question. Co-                                                                    
Chair Josephson  understood elements  of the bill.  He asked                                                                    
if another element  of the legislation was  to get treatment                                                                    
modalities  in rural  areas for  rapid  response and  better                                                                    
outcomes  for the  patient. Mr.  Wiseman  answered that  the                                                                    
golden hour  timeframes were different for  stroke and heart                                                                    
attacks.  He spoke  to  enhanced  training for  pre-hospital                                                                    
providers for  heart attack  recognition and  mitigation. He                                                                    
elaborated  that  it was  not  the  same for  stroke,  which                                                                    
needed  imaging  to  determine   the  cause.  The  statewide                                                                    
coordinated training  would be  developed for  heart attacks                                                                    
and  strokes   to  ensure  the  right   determination  under                                                                    
protocol for where a patient  should be sent for trauma care                                                                    
and  treatment. He  provided an  example regarding  a stroke                                                                    
victim  in a  rural community  where pre-hospital  providers                                                                    
would determine  the right hospital  to medivac  the patient                                                                    
to.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:55:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Josephson  asked if  the training  and coordination                                                                    
would be with sub-regional  clinics and clinics in villages.                                                                    
Mr. Wiseman  responded in the affirmative.  The coordinating                                                                    
committees would  set baseline protocols and  there would be                                                                    
associated  training to  support  austere  clinics in  rural                                                                    
settings to  respond appropriately.  However, he  was unsure                                                                    
whether a  stroke patient  could be  handled in  a community                                                                    
like Dutch Harbor. He deferred further answer to Dr. He.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. He relayed that she  agreed with Mr. Wiseman. She shared                                                                    
from  personal experience  that  in the  prior summer  there                                                                    
were several  patients that  experienced massive  strokes on                                                                    
cruise ships.  She focused on  one patient where  the cruise                                                                    
ship  responders identified  the problem  and wanted  to get                                                                    
the patient  to the  closest hospital for  administration of                                                                    
clot  busting drugs.  The  medication  must be  administered                                                                    
within  four and  one half  hours after  the event.  The EMS                                                                    
providers  on the  scene recognized  that the  patient might                                                                    
need  additional intervention  known  as  a clot  retrieval,                                                                    
which  was   only  done  in   Anchorage.  The   patient  was                                                                    
transferred to  a hospital in Southeast  Alaska and received                                                                    
imaging and  clot busting medication  in time.  However, the                                                                    
imaging also  showed the  patient was  a candidate  for clot                                                                    
intervention.  The  patient  had  to wait  for  yet  another                                                                    
flight crew  to be transferred,  which led to  a significant                                                                    
delay.  She   concluded  that  coordinating   and  improving                                                                    
efficient  transfers and  consistency of  care mattered  the                                                                    
most  utilizing  the  most efficient  process  by  which  to                                                                    
triage  and determine  the appropriate  facility. She  noted                                                                    
that the  situation was  a classic  example and  the tracked                                                                    
data, if in place, could  provide solutions by looking at it                                                                    
in a larger context  and identifying patterns. She suggested                                                                    
that one solution could utilize  "on hold" medivac services.                                                                    
She exemplified another case where  a stroke patient needing                                                                    
clot  intervention was  transferred 3  times over  13 hours.                                                                    
The delay was significant because  2 million brain cells die                                                                    
per minute.  Even cutting the  time in half could  produce a                                                                    
better  outcome for  the patient.  She  emphasized that  for                                                                    
patients  in rural  areas  coordination  mattered much  more                                                                    
than in urban areas.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:00:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  hypothesized a scenario  where someone                                                                    
had a  heart attack in  Unakleet and was not  transferred to                                                                    
Norton Sound Health Corporation  in Nome but was transported                                                                    
directly to  Anchorage. He could not  understand why someone                                                                    
would be  diverted to a  rural health clinic prior  to going                                                                    
to Anchorage regarding a major  medical emergency. He shared                                                                    
from personal experience working  with a dozen Alaska Native                                                                    
health  corporations  that  major  emergencies  were  always                                                                    
transferred directly  to Anchorage due to  the corporations                                                                     
lacking the necessary trauma level  care. He was not opposed                                                                    
to the  bill, but he was  confused how it would  achieve the                                                                    
outcome because  it was  a voluntary  program. He  asked how                                                                    
the program would be effective.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mina  answered  that  it would  need  to  be                                                                    
determined  which hospital  to  send a  patient directly  to                                                                    
Anchorage to.  If there was  not a standard  protocol, there                                                                    
would  be a  great reliance  on  the provider  in the  rural                                                                    
community where  the emergency happened, they  and might not                                                                    
have the same  training as a licensed  EMS professional. The                                                                    
standard  of care  helped provide  more direction  for rural                                                                    
areas  where  there  was  no   coordination  to  know  which                                                                    
specific Anchorage hospital  was appropriate. Representative                                                                    
Mina addressed his concerns  regarding the voluntary element                                                                    
of  the bill.  She  communicated that  there was  difference                                                                    
between  each provider  having  its  own internal  protocols                                                                    
versus  having  the providers  working  with  each other  on                                                                    
where to transfer  patients. She deferred to  Mr. Wiseman to                                                                    
speak to creating  a standard system of care  versus none at                                                                    
all.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:05:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wiseman  responded that the  statute was set up  for the                                                                    
trauma system  in a way   the voluntary nature spoke  to the                                                                    
hospitals  themselves.He      expounded  that  whether  they                                                                    
wanted to participate and become  certified as a Level IV to                                                                    
Level  II  trauma center  was  a  voluntary program  in  the                                                                    
state.  The department  determined  that  carrying the  same                                                                    
voluntary nature  to a stroke  or heart attack  center would                                                                    
replicate for the EMS program  as well. The vast majority of                                                                    
hospitals  had become  trauma centers  over the  years on  a                                                                    
voluntary  basis.  The  hospitals increased  their  in-house                                                                    
training  and   capabilities  to  meet  the   trauma  center                                                                    
standard.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked Dr.  He whether  regional Native                                                                    
Health corporations could currently  treat a heart attack or                                                                    
stroke. Dr. He  answered that it depended.  She related that                                                                    
they  had  the  diagnostic  imaging  capabilities  and  clot                                                                    
busting  medicines, but  for higher  level intervention  the                                                                    
patient had to be transported  to Anchorage. An EKG could be                                                                    
tested  or  sent easily  but  stroke  imaging could  not  be                                                                    
transferred  quickly.  She  elaborated  that  the  EMS  crew                                                                    
determined whether  the patient had to  transfer directly to                                                                    
Anchorage,  and  it  was not  necessary  for  every   shore                                                                     
patient. Even  if a facility  had clot  busting medications,                                                                    
the patient  needed to be  at an  ICU level of  nursing care                                                                    
according  to   current  standards   and  had   to  transfer                                                                    
somewhere  else  after  they   were  administered  the  clot                                                                    
busting drugs.  Most of  the small clinics  do not  have the                                                                    
ability.  She described  further complications  with strokes                                                                    
and  clot busting  drugs and  pointed to  the varied  issues                                                                    
that arise.  Representative Stapp  asked who would  make the                                                                    
decision as  to where victims were  transferred. He wondered                                                                    
who would  have the  standardized information to  decide. He                                                                    
experienced that  currently responders erred on  the side of                                                                    
caution and sent  the patient directly to  a major hospital.                                                                    
Dr. He responded  that the EMS first responder  would be the                                                                    
most  appropriate person  to make  the  call. She  furthered                                                                    
that other symptoms make it  difficult to delineate a stroke                                                                    
in  the  field, like  hallucinations  making  appear it  was                                                                    
substance  issues.  Therefore,  training and  resources  for                                                                    
pre-hospital  staff  would  be  very  helpful.  Lacking  the                                                                    
tracking data  regarding patients  with strokes,  gaps could                                                                    
be identified  and more  efficient decisions  regarding care                                                                    
could be made.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:12:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked if  the data would  be available                                                                    
after the fact through  the Heath Information Exchange (HIE)                                                                    
after the fact. DR. He responded in the negative.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wiseman  reviewed the published fiscal  impact note from                                                                    
DOH (FN  1(DOH) appropriated to Public  Health for Emergency                                                                    
Response.  He  reported  that the  $240.6  thousand  was  to                                                                    
accomplish  the objectives  of the  bill that  would require                                                                    
one  additional full  time position  in  the trauma  systems                                                                    
unit  within the  Division of  Public  Health. The  position                                                                    
would   support   coordination   of   multiple   stakeholder                                                                    
committees  to build  a process.  Additionally, funding  for                                                                    
(Information  Technology) IT  systems  enhancements will  be                                                                    
required  to  implement  tracking  and  reporting  of  heart                                                                    
attack and stroke.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster interjected  that  the  fund sources  were;                                                                    
Federal Receipts at $28.9 thousand  and G/F match in UGF was                                                                    
$211.7 totaling $240.6 thousand.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum  described that  in Southeast  Alaska a                                                                    
patient  requiring  major  medical  care  was  automatically                                                                    
flown  out. He  voiced that  there were  already systems  in                                                                    
place that  accomplished getting  someone to care.  He asked                                                                    
what the reach  of regulatory components would  be given the                                                                    
fact that  the healthcare institutions were  already heavily                                                                    
regulated.  He cited  AS 18.08.200  (14) and  noted that  it                                                                    
currently read, "immediate  medical surgical intervention or                                                                    
treatment  to prevent  death  or  permanent disability."  He                                                                    
inquired  how  the  current  definition  did  not  meet  the                                                                    
requirement for heart attack or stroke.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mina replied  that  there  was a  difference                                                                    
between regulations and creating  guidance and protocols for                                                                    
the best standards  of care for the state's  EMS system. She                                                                    
voiced that the authority for  DOH to create the standard of                                                                    
care would not  exist without the inclusion  of heart attack                                                                    
or stroke in the definition  in statute. She deferred to Mr.                                                                    
Wiseman to speak  to the current authority of  the Office of                                                                    
EMS  and  haw  it  related  to  regulations  for  healthcare                                                                    
facilities  and  why the  current  statute  did not  include                                                                    
heart attack or stroke.                                                                                                         
3:18:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wiseman answered   that in the current  statute AS 18.08                                                                    
related to  EMS and  trauma care.  He indicated  that trauma                                                                    
care was added  in 2010, because a system of  care needed to                                                                    
be developed  and focus  on a  system of  care. It  gave the                                                                    
department  a higher  level  of authority  to  focus on  the                                                                    
issue of trauma care systems.  He spoke to the importance of                                                                    
data and how the system was  built on the data viewed from a                                                                    
high level  and the provider committee  process to establish                                                                    
the standards. The  current set of EMS  standards focused on                                                                    
the  pre-hospital level  of care.  He  announced that  DOH's                                                                    
authority to establish the EMS  systems of care approach was                                                                    
currently  non-existent  as  the original  statute  was  not                                                                    
sufficient  to   develop  a  trauma  system   prior  to  its                                                                    
inclusion  in  2010.  He  spoke  to  coordination  regarding                                                                    
cruise ship passengers. He offered  that the Coast Guard had                                                                    
to  lift  approximately  219  patients   off  the  ships  to                                                                    
transfer  them to  care and  they needed  to be  involved as                                                                    
well as  private providers. He  voiced that  currently there                                                                    
was no statewide approach.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson commented that  she would like to see                                                                    
some letters  of support from  stakeholders other  than from                                                                    
paramedics, LifeMed  Alaska, LLC or EMS  providers who would                                                                    
be  directly impacted.  She guessed  that there  might be  a                                                                    
protocol in  place already.  She thought  it might  become a                                                                    
mandatory  system for  providers. She  was not  sure how  it                                                                    
would  impact  insurance  companies.  She  voiced  that  she                                                                    
wanted  to hear  from  someone  in the  other  body who  had                                                                    
medical  experience.  She  hoped  for  more  information  in                                                                    
general.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:23:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Jimmie  described  how  medical  emergencies                                                                    
were  handled in  the remote  part of  Alaska she  lived in.                                                                    
Ultimately,  some were  evacuated through  LifeMed. She  was                                                                    
aware from  experience that the LifeMed  responders made the                                                                    
treatment decisions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Tomaszewski   asked  how   many   specialty                                                                    
hospitals were in Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Wiseman  replied that  there  were  15 level  4  trauma                                                                    
centers,  1 level  3 trauma  center,  and 2  level 2  trauma                                                                    
centers in the state. He was  unable to answer what level of                                                                    
specialty care was available in receiving centers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski pointed  to the sponsor statement                                                                    
and wondered  whether the hospital had  adopted the national                                                                    
criteria for  EMS system of  care. He read from  the sponsor                                                                    
statement: "HB  27 will ensure that  the receiving specialty                                                                    
hospitals  meet DOH-adopted  national criteria  for being  a                                                                    
voluntary stroke  or heart attack center."  He asked whether                                                                    
DOH had  adopted the national criteria.  Mr. Wiseman replied                                                                    
that  the national  criteria DOH  had adopted  was from  the                                                                    
American College of Surgeons,  which established the current                                                                    
system of  care and  provided credential for  facilities. He                                                                    
elucidated  that  there   were  other  national  accrediting                                                                    
bodies that a hospital  could participate in. Representative                                                                    
Tomaszewski stated  that the  objective of  the bill  was to                                                                    
establish criterion  that all hospitals in  the state follow                                                                    
so everyone  was "on the  same page." Mr.  Wiseman responded                                                                    
in  the affirmative  and added  that it  depended on  if the                                                                    
hospital voluntarily  wanted the  certification to  become a                                                                    
stroke  or   heart  attack  center.  The   department  would                                                                    
identify  the   national  entity  that  would   be  used  to                                                                    
establish   the    standards.   Representative   Tomaszewski                                                                    
inquired what the outcome of  volunteering to be a specialty                                                                    
hospital would  mean for the  facility. Mr.  Wiseman replied                                                                    
that  he  was  unsure  what  the  financial  impact  on  the                                                                    
hospital to obtain the  certification was. The certification                                                                    
would help  the patient  be directed  to the  right provider                                                                    
for  care. Representative  Tomaszewski asked  if there  were                                                                    
any hospitals  in the  state that  had adopted  the national                                                                    
criteria to be a heart  attack or stroke center. Mr. Wiseman                                                                    
deferred  the  answer to  Dr.  He.  The department  did  not                                                                    
currently track the information.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:30:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Bynum  noted   that  the   current  statute                                                                    
required trauma  care. He inquired  whether DOH  was already                                                                    
doing  all it  wanted for  stroke and  heart attack  and was                                                                    
doing all it wanted for  all other traumas except for stroke                                                                    
and heart attack.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Mina  replied  that  the state  did  have  a                                                                    
robust system of  trauma care but lacked a  robust system of                                                                    
care for  heart attacks and  strokes. She asked  Mr. Wiseman                                                                    
to confirm her statement.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Wiseman   asked  for  the  question   to  be  repeated.                                                                    
Representative Bynum complied. Mr.  Wiseman responded in the                                                                    
affirmative. He  elaborated that in the  trauma system there                                                                    
was a  statewide trauma registry that  almost every hospital                                                                    
participated in  and entered its  data so outcomes  could be                                                                    
tracked. The  trauma systems review committee  had published                                                                    
several guidelines for certain types of trauma and                                                                              
protocols were produced statewide.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB 27 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster discussed future meetings.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 27 Letters of Support 03.17.25.pdf HFIN 4/7/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 27
HB 27 Sectional Analysis Ver. N 03.17.25.pdf HFIN 4/7/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 27
HB 27 Sponsor Statement Ver. N 03.17.25.pdf HFIN 4/7/2025 1:30:00 PM
HB 27